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(Salt Lake Tribune)   Smoothie shop owner who charges more for liberals fires two employees for supporting Obama. Smooth move   (sltrib.com) divider line 447
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2013-01-18 05:06:55 PM  

MoxieLover: tarheel07: Have fun paying their unemployment benefits, asswipe.

Fired for cause. No unemployment responsibility.


At least in NC, it has to be "good cause attributable to the employer" in order for the ex-employee to be disqualified for unemployment insurance benefits (UIB). Not sure if this counts as such "good cause." Then again, this happened in Utah which may have a different standard, but I'd think most states would have similar standards for qualification/disqualification for UIB.
 
2013-01-18 05:09:07 PM  
Simple solution: Cut his tits off.

DNRTFA
 
2013-01-18 05:10:29 PM  

Witty Comment: Now I legally grow medicinal marijuana


Not in the United States, you don't.
 
2013-01-18 05:19:30 PM  

pciszek: Vlad_the_Inaner: 18 USC § 241 - Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;


So a single asshole boss acting alone would be in the clear?


Probably, although you perhaps could find some Beck, Limbaugh, or Michael Savage rant on defunding the left in that manner, and claim that the Utah guy followed through on that plan.

/(maybe all three, and get the executives from News Corp included too?)
 
2013-01-18 05:23:40 PM  

Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'


Bartender's rules is how I run my business.
 
2013-01-18 05:26:45 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: The Singing Bush: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: then drove 25 miles on the 5, 22, 405 and 710 freeways

[25.media.tumblr.com image 422x355]

Don't understand the reference.


The Californians
 
2013-01-18 05:27:54 PM  

pciszek: In a case widely perceived as "Mormons vs. The Evil Liberals", as this one would be, how hard would it be for the defense to keep gentiles off of the jury?


what, put the word 'evil' in from of the word 'Mormon' and you'd have the sentiment of the majority of the state, bro.
 
2013-01-18 05:36:28 PM  

Amos Quito: Example: If you owned a slaughterhouse, would you feel comfortable with hardcore PETA activist on your payroll?


I think you are mixing your metaphors there. They did not have membership in an organization whose beliefs ran contrary to the business.
 
BHK
2013-01-18 05:37:35 PM  

H31N0US: Good, now they can go get jobs working for someone who isn't an asshole about providing healthcare for his workers.


Right, how immoral. Your morals should be imposed by others. Just like conservative fundie Republicans want to do, but your morals are superior, of course.
 
2013-01-18 05:51:51 PM  
He would have a hard time keeping the windows to his office from breaking all the time if I was one of those fired employees.
 
2013-01-18 05:58:55 PM  

gja: LavenderWolf: Also, nobody tells you Merry Christmas infringes on anyone's rights. This is another right wing imagined enemy. Being wished "Happy Holidays" does not mean you can't say Merry Christmas. Frankly, I didn't even catch this one on my first read-through of your post. If you think this is true, you are seriously brainwashed. I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration; if you think Christmas is under any such attack, you are a brainwashed fool.

I had a woman in NYC fairly well shrill at me for saying that. Right outside Saks windows this past season. Others looked at her like "WTF?".
For myself I was to shocked to respond as I had my daughter in tow. I was mortified. First time it has ever happened to me, and I am a lifer-NYer.

I know christmas isn't under attack, but civility sure is these days.


Oh my GOD! A New Yorker was an asshole to another New Yorker! That NEVER happens!!!

www.cavemancircus.com
 
2013-01-18 06:31:06 PM  

Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.


No law against being an ahole.
 
2013-01-18 06:32:52 PM  

Latinwolf: Carth: Coastalgrl: madgonad: James F. Campbell: spentmiles: I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?"

You're going to have to get a lot better at writing coherent narratives before you can sell your fanfiction on Amazon, PN.

Pocket Ninja doesn't need an alt account to practice his art - and if he had one it surely isn't spentmiles. And yes, while spentmiles is trying to be entertaining, underneath it all he is still just a tool. I do like what he is doing now better than the last couple years of trolling, but you can't unring a bell. (or get off my favorites list)

You can sell fanfiction on amazon?

Yea, just change the names like the 50 shades of grey lady did.

That was fan fiction? So what was the original source?


If was originally written at Twilight fan fiction before some names were changed. There is more information on the wikipedia page if you're curious.
 
2013-01-18 07:13:32 PM  

Amos Quito: Latinwolf: Amos Quito: Pants full of macaroni!!: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

You mean the same thing that happens every time the presidency changes hands?

Obviously.

Sweeping staff changes take place every time an election is held - whether president, governors, mayors, senators... ALL because of POLITICAL OPINIONS / AFFILIATION.

Sure, the guy may be an ass, but good luck with that prosecution / lawsuit.

For a good comparison you'd have to show that the company had a previous owner and that the new owner was the one that fired those workers.

No, the employer simply has to believe that the employee does (or may) work to the detriment of the company.

Example: If you owned a slaughterhouse, would you feel comfortable with hardcore PETA activist on your payroll?


How does being liberal or conservative have any affect on how well you make a smoothie?
 
2013-01-18 07:25:23 PM  

randomjsa: Private business? Check.

If you don't like it, don't go there.


Didn't read the article or intentionally trolling? Check.

You really need a new hobby.
 
2013-01-18 07:41:49 PM  
Perhaps he's losing business because he's a jackass.
 
2013-01-18 08:22:05 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Didn't read the article or intentionally trolling? Check.

You really need a new hobby.


Yes I did read the article.

The answer to "X business is doing... something... controversial!"

Is always... ALWAYS... Did I mention always?

Private business? Check.

If you don't like it, don't go there.

And since I know people really are this stupid and must have it spelled out for them. You can safely assume I'm not talking about anything that is actually illegal such as dumping toxic chemicals, serving food that will make people sick, or selling alcohol to minors. Don't be dense. You know what I mean.
 
2013-01-18 08:27:16 PM  

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


Unless one of them was a minority and that's how they "knew" they were an "Obongo" supporter. If so then congrats to that minority because they just became a small business owner!!
 
gja
2013-01-18 08:27:36 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: gja: LavenderWolf: Also, nobody tells you Merry Christmas infringes on anyone's rights. This is another right wing imagined enemy. Being wished "Happy Holidays" does not mean you can't say Merry Christmas. Frankly, I didn't even catch this one on my first read-through of your post. If you think this is true, you are seriously brainwashed. I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration; if you think Christmas is under any such attack, you are a brainwashed fool.

I had a woman in NYC fairly well shrill at me for saying that. Right outside Saks windows this past season. Others looked at her like "WTF?".
For myself I was to shocked to respond as I had my daughter in tow. I was mortified. First time it has ever happened to me, and I am a lifer-NYer.

I know christmas isn't under attack, but civility sure is these days.

Oh my GOD! A New Yorker was an asshole to another New Yorker! That NEVER happens!!!


www.cavemancircus.com

Yeah, yeah....I know, I know. Still, I try to live up to a better standard than that. Case in point: I will often stop my 'walking commute' to/from Penn when I see an obvious group of visitors taking pics of each other by landmarks. Why? I offer to "let them all get in the same pic" and will happily snap a pic of them all together. Because when I travel I have been shown that kindness and I am a fervent believer in "ye shall reap what ye sow".
Also, since I am able to work a bit of french/spanish/italian/portugese I will stop and try to help if I hear folks who are clearly having a tough time getting around and I can pick that up from their conversation. I would like that same courtesy some day, so I will do so just "because".

I'm not such an odd man out.  My fellow NYers often make me very happy to be one. I catch other NYers being decent and kind all the time.
And when things get dicey, NYers really know how to pull together.

So, this woman really caught me off guard. I am used to people being unusually congenial and nice around the holidays.
 
gja
2013-01-18 08:30:07 PM  

Shae123: Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.

No law against being an ahole.


No, you are correct. But (and this is a BIG but) there is also no law against ahole lawyers who take delight in raking you over the coals for shiztz-n-giggles.
Litigious little buggers, the lot. Especially when they think there is money or media time to be had.
 
2013-01-18 09:16:58 PM  

randomjsa: Keizer_Ghidorah: Didn't read the article or intentionally trolling? Check.

You really need a new hobby.

Yes I did read the article.

The answer to "X business is doing... something... controversial!"

Is always... ALWAYS... Did I mention always?

Private business? Check.

If you don't like it, don't go there.

And since I know people really are this stupid and must have it spelled out for them. You can safely assume I'm not talking about anything that is actually illegal such as dumping toxic chemicals, serving food that will make people sick, or selling alcohol to minors. Don't be dense. You know what I mean.


This isn't about people GOING there, dipshiat. It's about two of its employees being fired for not being members of the right political party.

Ironic that you biatch about having to spell things out to people when you always need things spelled out to you.
 
2013-01-18 09:43:34 PM  
i might have missed something but is he asking people who come to the counter if they're liberal or conservative before he makes their smoothies? how is this good for business? because i want a smoothie, not to be shamed for my unknown, unlabeled political leanings.
 
2013-01-18 09:51:36 PM  
www.sezin.org

Stay classy, Utah.
 
2013-01-18 10:03:35 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: Obongo bongo bongo I don't want to leave Fartbongo oh nonononono
Obama bingle bangle, I'm so happy in rural Utah I refuse to go


*snerk*
 
2013-01-18 10:13:20 PM  
FTFA: "They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were," Lee said.

In other words they were black.
 
2013-01-18 10:33:21 PM  
Shenanigans. Internet tough guy with a kitchen-table business invents stinky no-good liberal employees to piss on in an online comment.
 
2013-01-18 11:07:13 PM  

Carn: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Almet: The fool! He's just allowing them to go on Obongo's indefinate unemployment and 0boingboingcare and 0bama-llama phones!

HELL-yeah! Just got the letters Tuesday: Since Obama extended the UI, got another 13 weeks extension at $412 per week, then ANOTHER new claim, automatically following that, at $205 per week for 26 weeks - plus another 67 weeks of extensions for that claim.

And Monday we were notified we could start hunting for a Section 8 apartment. We'll be paying 30% of our combined monthly "income" for it, the taxpayers picking up the rest.

THANKS, taxpayers!

You're welcome. Considering your situation, I'm sure we'll never hear a peep from you about welfare queens, moochers, or anything similar, right?


Actually, yes you may. I don't think I've ever really posted anything about "welfare queens, moochers, or anything similar" and I certainly haven't posted anything about people actually in need who are NOT gaming the system. Those two classifications are as different as night and day. Sorta like: pickpockets -vs- honest workers with day jobs. Yeah, I DO in fact have a problem with "welfare queens, moochers, or anything similar." And since being homeless, where I've had the ability to discover stuff like that, I've narced out several of them. Maybe you don't see the distinction between the two, but most rational people (including virtually everyone in the homeless community) does.

So please take your little straw man and use it as a dildo. thanks.
 
2013-01-18 11:17:00 PM  

MagSeven: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: The Singing Bush: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: then drove 25 miles on the 5, 22, 405 and 710 freeways

[25.media.tumblr.com image 422x355]

Don't understand the reference.

The Californians


ZOMFG!!!1111!!11!!!! Hey, Duuuude, yuouuuu owe mayeeeeee a nauwwwww keeeeybooord!

(Never heard of it before.)
 
2013-01-18 11:19:49 PM  

Bucky Katt: FTFA: "They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were," Lee said.

In other words they were black.


I hadn't considered this point. If both fired people were black -- and no one else who worked there was -- then that "job creator" is in for a world of anal raping heretofore unbeknownst to him.
 
2013-01-18 11:35:49 PM  
Yah, baby. You can terminate anyone at anytime for no reason at all if no contract/union grievance process. Obamaphytes should be the first to go-they reaped what they sowed.
 
2013-01-18 11:42:28 PM  

theorellior: Wow. Someone actually uses the term "Obongo" in normal conversation.

So... this guy makes his living contracting to a government agency. What part of that isn't socialism?


None of it?

Please, please get a new shtick. That one is so old and busted it was turned down for a Whole Life policy by Allstate.
 
2013-01-18 11:46:43 PM  

legalgus: Yah, baby. You can terminate anyone at anytime for no reason at all if no contract/union grievance process. Obamaphytes should be the first to go-they reaped what they sowed.


It's funny how people like you hate health care for everyone, small businesses having an easier time, getting our troops out of the two pointless wars we've been waging for over ten years, Osama bin Laden's death, and trying to get America out of a recession.

Hopefully Obama endorses breathing so we can be rid of you.
 
2013-01-18 11:48:15 PM  

Heraclitus: Maybe they can claim being liberal is a disability...


That would be nothing but the truth.
 
2013-01-18 11:50:02 PM  

SnarfVader: If the owner fired the employees because of his hatred for Obama and his hatred from Obama is based on Obama's race, could the employees say they were technically fired because of racism?


Isn't that assumed to be true? I mean, why else would someone not love and worship Obama? Seriously.
 
2013-01-18 11:51:55 PM  

scrotal_aroma: Please tell me why this is a problem, and colleges not hiring conservative professors is not?


Duuuh! Because they're conservatives!
 
2013-01-18 11:52:53 PM  

WTF Indeed: OnlyM3: Illiterate liberal 1gja

lawsuits in 4....3....2....1
Illiterate liberal 2
WTF Indeed

Easiest Lawsuit Ever.

FTFA: "Federal and Utah law do not prevent private employers from firing employees on the basis of political affiliation"

Holy f*ck you are stupid.


Cogent, rational, logical response.
 
2013-01-18 11:55:07 PM  

Stephen_Falken: You know what the best part of this is? This owner is now going to be unable to hire anyone who's not a conservative idiot throwback neanderthal. That will mean erosion of his bottom line, which will in turn mean that he will have to close down his little homoerotic smoothie shop. And the absolute best part is:


OBAMA STILL WON THE ELECTION AND THERES NOT A GODDAMN THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT
LOL ROFLMAO U SUKC N00B


How do you dress yourself in the morning when you are apparently unable to actually think other than in memes, stereotypes, and talking points? Curious minds want to know.
 
2013-01-18 11:59:19 PM  

MyPenIsHuge: stirfrybry: bulldg4life: From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.

LOL@racecard

This, why do people continue to throw down the term racist for every single statement they don't agree with?


It's easier than actually coming up with a rational argument.
 
2013-01-19 12:00:51 AM  

gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1


Shop burned down in 3... 2... 1...
 
2013-01-19 12:10:19 AM  
Yah, baby. You can terminate anyone at anytime for no reason at all if blabber blabber foo foo blarp fnord

Second Amendment remedy applied.

Bye now.

See you in Hell.
 
2013-01-19 12:12:33 AM  
Just Another OC Homeless Guy

Love how every post you made was a variation of "hurr durr LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS". Shows how little you contribute to anything.
 
2013-01-19 12:42:52 AM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

Shop burned down in 3... 2... 1...


Easy way to get a insurance payout for a failing business while fellating the fox and freinds crowd.
 
2013-01-19 01:07:32 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: And just on a side note, our country has an ideal that people should not be discriminated against for things beyond their control, such as gender, skin color, and many would argue sexual orientation. Joining a political party is a choice. Supporting Obama is a choice. And choices should and do have consequences, despite what some self-entitled "me-first, screw everyone else" idiots out there think.


Your religion is a choice. Your marital status is a choice. Getting pregnant is a choice. Yet there are laws that prevent you from getting fired for your religious beliefs, for being single/married/divorced, or for getting pregnant.

And you obviously choose to be an asshole.
 
2013-01-19 01:21:57 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: SnarfVader: If the owner fired the employees because of his hatred for Obama and his hatred from Obama is based on Obama's race, could the employees say they were technically fired because of racism?

Isn't that assumed to be true? I mean, why else would someone not love and worship Obama? Seriously.


You forgot to highlight the word "If".
 
2013-01-19 02:33:18 AM  

SnarfVader: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: SnarfVader: If the owner fired the employees because of his hatred for Obama and his hatred from Obama is based on Obama's race, could the employees say they were technically fired because of racism?

Isn't that assumed to be true? I mean, why else would someone not love and worship Obama? Seriously.

You forgot to highlight the word "If".


I mean, race IS the main reason Republicans object to anything Obama does.
 
2013-01-19 10:53:11 AM  

Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

Thanks.


/It's different
//When we do it
///Well, it is


Um, do you have the SLIGHTEST idea what the president's cabinet is, or what they do?
 
2013-01-19 04:51:32 PM  

PunGent: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

Thanks.

/It's different
//When we do it
///Well, it is

Um, do you have the SLIGHTEST idea what the president's cabinet is, or what they do?


Of course he doesn't, if he did he couldn't use it as yet another bullet in his anti-Obama gun.
 
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