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(Salt Lake Tribune)   Smoothie shop owner who charges more for liberals fires two employees for supporting Obama. Smooth move   (sltrib.com) divider line 447
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gja
2013-01-18 11:40:44 AM  
lawsuits in 4....3....2....1
 
2013-01-18 11:40:59 AM  
Easiest Lawsuit Ever.
 
2013-01-18 11:42:36 AM  
Good, now they can go get jobs working for someone who isn't an asshole about providing healthcare for his workers.
 
2013-01-18 11:42:42 AM  
"Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I didn't know people used Obongo in non-ironic terms.
 
2013-01-18 11:42:56 AM  
"Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I think that sums up the article nicely.

"Is your political affiliation protected?" he added, explaining that he thought what he did was not illegal. "I don't believe it is, but I don't know."

And this, too.
 
2013-01-18 11:43:03 AM  
I can't be on that jury.
I promised the judge I wouldn't shoot fish in a barrel again.
 
2013-01-18 11:43:14 AM  
...I wouldn't get a smoothie anywhere with a name that close to "venereal".
 
2013-01-18 11:43:44 AM  
Subby headline fail. Smoothie shop owner and the firing owner are two completely different people/businesses.
 
2013-01-18 11:43:47 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-18 11:44:37 AM  

gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1


As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.
 
2013-01-18 11:45:19 AM  
From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.
 
2013-01-18 11:46:06 AM  
Wow seems like a great guy to work for.
 
2013-01-18 11:46:07 AM  

megarian: ...I wouldn't get a smoothie anywhere with a name that close to "venereal".


[snerk]
 
2013-01-18 11:46:08 AM  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class

Race - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

Color - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

Religion - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

National origin - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964
Age (40 and over) - Federal: Age Discrimination in Employment
Act of 1967
Sex - Federal: Equal Pay Act of 1963 & Civil Rights Act of 1964

Familial status - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1968 Title VIII (Housing, cannot discriminate for having children, exception for senior housing)

Disability status - Federal: Vocational Rehabilitation and Other Rehabilitation Services of 1973 & Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990

Veteran status - Federal Vietnam Era Veterans Readjustment Assistance Act of 1974
Genetic information - Federal: Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act
 
2013-01-18 11:46:10 AM  

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


Perhaps.  Still an asshole.
 
2013-01-18 11:46:14 AM  

Rapmaster2000: "Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I didn't know people used Obongo in non-ironic terms.


I am most surprised by the lack of the number 0 as a substitute for the letter 'O'.
 
2013-01-18 11:46:58 AM  
I don't think it's illegal, just incredibly dickish. I wouldn't think his business will last very long if he's this stupid.
 
2013-01-18 11:47:13 AM  

Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.


Civil or criminal liability for such a status would result in the cessation of all societal function.
 
2013-01-18 11:47:15 AM  

gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1


Your political party is not a protected group under EOC
 
2013-01-18 11:47:29 AM  
Christ what an asshole
 
2013-01-18 11:47:40 AM  
It seems pretty unfair, but the article specifically seems to mention that firing based on political affiliation is legal. Or am I misunderstanding?
 
2013-01-18 11:47:42 AM  

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'
 
2013-01-18 11:47:58 AM  
They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were, coupled with Obongo, makes we wonder how he "just knew." If the owner "just knew" because they weren't white my-grandparents-were-born-here amuricans, that starts leaning back into lawsuit land.
 
2013-01-18 11:48:40 AM  
Who would WANT to work for that prick anyways? He's an embarrassment to his community.
 
2013-01-18 11:48:53 AM  
That was a
ecodiscountstore.com
idea
 
2013-01-18 11:49:12 AM  
I predict much calm and rational political debate about Obamacare, Right-to-work, and non-performance related employment termination in this thread.
 
2013-01-18 11:49:16 AM  
Wow. Someone actually uses the term "Obongo" in normal conversation.

So... this guy makes his living contracting to a government agency. What part of that isn't socialism?
 
2013-01-18 11:49:25 AM  

Rapmaster2000: "Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I didn't know people used Obongo in non-ironic terms.


Well, when your so consumed with hatred for a politician that you're willing to come across as a eight year old in the national media, I assume that's how.

I wonder if he cries into his smoothie at night over the election?
 
2013-01-18 11:49:33 AM  
And he'll be the first one to cry foul if the Obama supporters stop shopping there.
 
2013-01-18 11:49:44 AM  

Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'


Depending upon the political demographics of Cedar City, the owner may have in fact increased his business.
 
2013-01-18 11:50:00 AM  
I don't have my GED in law, but political affiliation is not a protected class. I do not believe the fired employees have a case (especially in Utah).

That said, the owner is an asshat and deserves a boycott of his business. Considering again that it's in Utah, it will probably increase his business and he will be forced to hire more employees to keep up.
 
2013-01-18 11:50:26 AM  

bulldg4life: From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.


LOL@racecard
 
2013-01-18 11:50:42 AM  
CSB: I just got a Vitamix 2500.

Its the greatest machine in the history of the kitchen.
 
2013-01-18 11:50:42 AM  
That was in fact, headline fail. Hmmmm...
 
2013-01-18 11:50:50 AM  

Carn: I don't think it's illegal, just incredibly dickish. I wouldn't think his business will last very long if he's this stupid.


Even so, some enterprising lawyer will gladly pick up their case as they attempt a wrongful termination suit.
 
2013-01-18 11:51:17 AM  

Dimensio: Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'

Depending upon the political demographics of Cedar City, the owner may have in fact increased his business.


if I were a small business owner, that's a risk I wouldn't take.  i'd keep national politics out of my store.  that shiat can backfire on you REAL fast.
 
2013-01-18 11:51:29 AM  
I'm now going to move to Florida and start hiring republican retirees, only to fire them every few months while shouting "RERPUBLICUN"
 
2013-01-18 11:51:32 AM  
Maybe the terminated employees will exercise their second amendment rights?
 
2013-01-18 11:51:38 AM  
Well, since Romney is a citizen of the Cayman Islands and Obama is a Christian, who else could they support?

//does that work both directions?
 
2013-01-18 11:51:40 AM  
The fool! By firing his employees without just cause, he's enabling them to go on undefinate unemployment and welfare. He's doing exactly by 0bungalowbob wants!
 
2013-01-18 11:51:43 AM  
The Australian Constitution guarantees "freedom of political expression" - should we borrow an amendment?
 
2013-01-18 11:51:46 AM  
It was obvious something like this was going to happen.

Got one of those storage center places near here, and the sign out front has said "SCREWED NOW" ever since Obama got re-elected. Choosing a side with your business during the election season is one thing, but to keep it up for the foreseeable future just pushes people away from your business. I mean Texas might be conservative central, but wouldnt this shtick get old after a while?
 
2013-01-18 11:51:53 AM  
Have fun paying their unemployment benefits, asswipe.
 
2013-01-18 11:52:12 AM  

SnarfVader: I don't have my GED in law, but political affiliation is not a protected class. I do not believe the fired employees have a case (especially in Utah).

That said, the owner is an asshat and deserves a boycott of his business. Considering again that it's in Utah, it will probably increase his business and he will be forced to hire more employees to keep up.


Hopefully they're conservative this time, don't want to make THAT mistake twice.
 
2013-01-18 11:52:14 AM  

madgonad: Maybe the terminated employees will exercise their second amendment rights?


They shoulda stood their ground.
 
2013-01-18 11:52:21 AM  
The civil lawsuit that ensues is going to be full of lulz.  Just because politics is not a "protected class" doesn't mean it's immune to any/all legal action.
 
2013-01-18 11:52:32 AM  

stirfrybry: LOL@racecard


Do you speak English or just teenager?
 
2013-01-18 11:52:32 AM  
After letting the two part-time contract workers go, Terry Lee Forensics has nine employees who work with local law enforcement and attorneys to retrieve digital data from encrypted computer hard drives. Terry Lee would not release the names of the two part-timers.

He said that in the past couple of years he has had to cut costs as his business has slowed. But he said his accountant recently told him that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, had raised his company's taxes and operating costs. Asked to detail those costs, Lee deferred to his accountant, who could not be reached for comment. Obamacare mandates that only businesses with more than 50 employees be required to insure full-time employees or face penalties.



Sounds like he needed to let two people go, and why not blame that damn n***** in the "White" House?

"Terry Lee Forensics"? Sounds like a hair salon.
 
2013-01-18 11:52:45 AM  
Why do you hate democracy Smoothie Man?
 
2013-01-18 11:52:50 AM  
He should have fired the accountant who told him Obamacare was going to cost his business money.
 
2013-01-18 11:52:56 AM  
Its his chance to make a statement, the medias attention is fixed on him and he comes up with "Obongo"?

This is why you can't have nice things republicans. well, this and you're douchebags.
 
2013-01-18 11:52:57 AM  
Maybe they can claim being liberal is a disability...
 
2013-01-18 11:53:08 AM  
This guy is bound for failure...

...which he'll blame on Obama.

He can't lose.
 
2013-01-18 11:53:10 AM  

Dimensio: Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.

Civil or criminal liability for such a status would result in the cessation of all societal function.


True dat.
 
2013-01-18 11:53:27 AM  
If the owner fired the employees because of his hatred for Obama and his hatred from Obama is based on Obama's race, could the employees say they were technically fired because of racism?
 
2013-01-18 11:53:32 AM  
The fool! He's just allowing them to go on Obongo's indefinate unemployment and 0boingboingcare and 0bama-llama phones!
 
2013-01-18 11:53:32 AM  
I'm curious as to how he knew they were Obama supporters. Political affiliation may not be protected, but I'm pretty sure you can't force anyone to tell you how they voted.
 
2013-01-18 11:53:37 AM  

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


That would not even slow an attorney down.
 
2013-01-18 11:53:46 AM  
SCREW YOU! I DIDNT WANT TO WORK FOR A REPUBLITARD ANYWAY! ILL START MY OWN BUSINESS AND ITLL BE A BRAZILLION TIMES BETTER THAN YOURS.


Just kidding Ill sue and take your business.
 
2013-01-18 11:54:04 AM  
They might not be able to sue based upon protected class but they could sue for wrongful termination. Political affiliation does not constitute poor work performance nor does it guarantee the employer carteblanche for removal. They may have trouble if they are in a "right to work/fire" state, but there is certainly footholds for legal action with this.
 
2013-01-18 11:54:05 AM  

Almet: The fool! By firing his employees without just cause, he's enabling them to go on undefinate unemployment and welfare. He's doing exactly by 0bungalowbob wants!


Maybe he's a secret Democrat. Very clever!
 
2013-01-18 11:54:17 AM  

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


This. It appears that most Farkers have not RTFA.

Political affiliation is a protected trait only if you are a government employee.

CSB:

Knew an old guy at the Tustin post office with 50 years service. (he refused to retire and get his pension since his ex-wife would get part of it). Now this guy WAS a gold-plated stereotype for the uber-conservative know-nothing meme. Made Ronald Reagan seem like a squishy liberal. He would get into farking political arguments with customers, and when talking with like-minded people would loudly complain about the mindlessness of liberals. USPS management couldn't touch him.

/CSB
 
2013-01-18 11:54:18 AM  

stirfrybry: LOL@racecard


ah yes...now we enter the section of the thread where using terms that are obviously connected to race and ethnicity are not racist or bigoted.
 
2013-01-18 11:54:26 AM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The civil lawsuit that ensues is going to be full of lulz.  Just because politics is not a "protected class" doesn't mean it's immune to any/all legal action.


they might lose the case but...hell, they might as well take a shot at it.  if nothing else, it's a headache for the douchebag who fired 'em.  not to mention the fact that first thing douchbag's lawyer is gonna tell him is to STFU about politics while the lawsuit is grinding through the court system.  that alone might make it worth doing.
 
2013-01-18 11:54:40 AM  

Dimensio: Rapmaster2000: "Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I didn't know people used Obongo in non-ironic terms.


I am most surprised by the lack of the number 0 as a substitute for the letter 'O'.


I'm with you on that. It's actually a little insane* that someone actually uses that in an earnest attempt to insult the President.

*read: stupid and racist
 
2013-01-18 11:54:47 AM  

Carn: I don't think it's illegal, just incredibly dickish. I wouldn't think his business will last very long if he's this stupid.


His business is failing. There is no way in hell he had to fire two people because of Obamacare. But the business can't be failing because he's an idiot, you see. So the blame must go somewhere.
 
2013-01-18 11:54:58 AM  

Emrick: He should have fired the accountant who told him Obamacare was going to cost his business money.


His accountant is making a quick buck using his client's derangement as a cover.
 
2013-01-18 11:55:02 AM  

megarian: ...I wouldn't get a smoothie anywhere with a name that close to "venereal".


I clicked through on the article's link about the smoothie shop. It said that various smoothies were named for famous oil wells. Associating the beverage that you're trying to sell with petroleum is crummy branding. Called to mind the scene in Three Kings where Marky Mark was made to drink oil.
 
2013-01-18 11:55:20 AM  
Nine employees and he's citing the ACA for increased costs?
Either he, or his accountant, is lying.
 
2013-01-18 11:55:49 AM  
I worked for a guy like this. After the 2008 election he fired another one of the chefs in the company simply for having an Obama bumper sticker, and had made threats prior to about doing such. In his North Carolina drawl he said "I'll tell you guys, if that farkin' liberal idiot gets put in the house I'm going to fire each and every one of you assholes with an Obama sticker on their car". That's a WORD FOR WORD quote. The same guy used to come into our restaurant (on the once every 6 weeks he stopped in) and would EXPLODE if anything besides Fox News was on the televisions. CNN, C-Span, BBC... didn't matter. Fox news was the only news station he allowed in his restaurants. Anything else was "liberal bias bullshiat". He would constantly write bad payroll checks and get pissed at the management (myself and another guy) for GIVING OUT CHECKS ON PAY DAY BEFORE THE BANKS CLOSED, employed an accountant that was simply lazy for years and incurred roughly $600/wk in overdrafts, let alone reimbursing employees for overdrafts on shiat checks he had written. He even was known for getting in screaming matches with guests at the white-tablecloth restaurant in Okemos about politics.

Needless to say, I left his employ for somebody else. I worked at the new place for 7 months and got fired after I fixed their problems they hired me in to fix. Basically after accomplishing that mission, I was deemed "overpaid".

Now I legally grow medicinal marijuana to the tune of what should be 6 figures this year, and I don't have to deal with corrupt assholes. I'm all for raising taxes on people like that because they didn't EARN anything on their own anyway.. and I'd love to pay taxes on MY income as well, and fulfill my financial duty to the country once the federal government pulls its head from it's ass.

Anyways, people like that are how STRONG liberals are created. Kind of like the "Catholic Schoolgirl turning into raging slut effect": oppress something for long enough, and the backlash becomes more powerful than you could ever imagine.

/COOL STORY BRO
 
2013-01-18 11:55:52 AM  

Pinner: That was in fact, headline fail. Hmmmm...



Pretty much this.


Fark Headline: Smoothie shop owner who charges more for liberals fires two employees for supporting Obama. Smooth move

FTFA: First, the owner of a smoothie bar in Vernal is charging liberals more for a cup of juice. Now, a Cedar City business owner who let two workers go because of Obamacare costs said he picked the pair in large part because of their support for President Obama.
 
2013-01-18 11:55:54 AM  

Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'


As a bonus he also gets to learn the joys of the internet the hard way.
 
2013-01-18 11:55:59 AM  
Buckle up, Terry Lee. Your life is never going to be the same.
 
2013-01-18 11:56:01 AM  
Reading comprehension fail. Still, owner in story adds to the concrete evidence that conservatives are spiteful dicks. Enjoy your lawsuit dumbass.
 
2013-01-18 11:56:28 AM  
I grew up in a vegan household and my mom taught me to make every type of organic burrito under the sun. When I went to college in Richmond, Virgina, I noticed a lot of hippies milling around the campus, smoking Drum and being upper middle class white kids. I saw an opportunity to make some money, so I set-up a burrito cart and sold a wrap that cost me less than a dollar to make for ten bucks. They sold like crazy, lines out the ass, and I made a ton of money.

It cracked me up too because I had this costume I'd dress up in - a tie-dye shirt, corduroy pants with some colorful shiat sewn on the sides, and a clip on feather I'd hang off my planter's hat. I looked like a Johnny shiats Himself, but the hippie kids treated me like Jerry Garcia's left nut. I was getting start to finish blow-jobs from the chicks while the dudes made themselves cool by giving me kind bud, which I sold back to them! I loved the BJs, but weed and other tranquilizers aren't interesting to me because I've got motivation and drive to do productive shiat while I'm awake.

Anyway, I'm in line at the bank one Friday with a stuffed envelope of roughly three grand in bills. I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?" She doesn't even recognize me. She blows me off like fly on the dick she's sucking. Then when I whipped out all the cash, she gave me this dirty look, like it was a bad thing to have that much money. In the meantime, she was probably withdrawing a $20 of allowance. I didn't care - I didn't hold it against her. What's it to me?

The next week, I'm back in my hippie costume, slanging burritos, and she's all doe-eyed at me, wanting to know if I wanted to come smoke with her after the lunch rush. We ended up back at her nice ass apartment, making out on the couch, my hands all over those burrito fed titties. We were having sex when the perfect metaphor for the experience occurred to me.

Not missing the rhythm of a single pump, I shifted it back and drove it into her asshole. It was like I'd whipped a sleeping dog with a belt - WWWOOOEEEEHHHEEEEEE!

I bust out laughing, lost my hard on, and went back to work, while she laid there and cried about it.

Bottom line, this smoothie shop guy doesn't deserve to own a business if he's going to let politics and petty social issues affect his bottom line. Go run for office. Go be a politico-blogger-dickthong. Go to a Gabby Giffords speech. Just don't waste prime sales space with your nonsense attitudes.
 
2013-01-18 11:56:34 AM  
How can he charge more for a drink? Don't these places have posted prices?
Also, how does he determine someones political leanings?

Anyway, both these guys are assclowns.
 
2013-01-18 11:56:59 AM  

solitary: The Australian Constitution guarantees "freedom of political expression" - should we borrow an amendment?


I'd be cool with that. ( Glad I've never worked for an asswipe that's discriminated against me for my beliefs. I've only been judged strictly on merit & performance; the way it should be...)
 
2013-01-18 11:57:29 AM  
Unfortunately, this business owner is well within his rights to fire these people solely because of their political affiliation, but damn if that's not one of the most immoral things I've ever seen.
 
2013-01-18 11:57:49 AM  

give me doughnuts: Nine employees and he's citing the ACA for increased costs?
Either he, or his accountant, is lying.


this is what I was thinking. Isn't the threshold for having to provide health insurance in some form, 50 employees? What the hell is he talking about?
 
2013-01-18 11:58:09 AM  

Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'


deanis: Who would WANT to work for that prick anyways? He's an embarrassment to his community.


This happened in Utah, which IIRC is one of the most Republican states in the country. If anything, this might even spur his business, since that's the crazy world in which we live.
 
2013-01-18 11:58:27 AM  

Rapmaster2000: "Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I didn't know people used Obongo in non-ironic terms.


He should have used a more creative epithet, like Bukkake O'Bunga or OBIGOT or Sir Marx-a-Lot or the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers.
 
2013-01-18 11:58:39 AM  
Aww how cute someone is using the term obongo unironically.
 
2013-01-18 11:58:43 AM  

Illiterate liberal 1

gja

lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

Illiterate liberal 2
WTF Indeed

Easiest Lawsuit Ever.


FTFA: "Federal and Utah law do not prevent private employers from firing employees on the basis of political affiliation"
 
2013-01-18 11:59:08 AM  
Please tell me why this is a problem, and colleges not hiring conservative professors is not?
 
2013-01-18 11:59:30 AM  
So people now understand he's an asshole and a retard. I'm sure they're rushing to eat at his establishment as we speak.

and when he goes under, that will also be Obongo's fault. Then he'll file bankruptcy and the taxpayers will foot his bill (again!).

/as has already been pointed out, I doubt he has 50 employees and as such, is exempt from many Obongocare provisions. Oh, and he gets special tax credits, too! Damn Fartbongo!
 
2013-01-18 12:00:04 PM  

OnlyM3: Illiterate liberal 1gja

lawsuits in 4....3....2....1
Illiterate liberal 2
WTF Indeed

Easiest Lawsuit Ever.

FTFA: "Federal and Utah law do not prevent private employers from firing employees on the basis of political affiliation"


ya, just because they cant be fired for political affiliation doesn't mean lawsuits wont commence, smart guy.
 
2013-01-18 12:00:50 PM  
illeagal, no. Dickish, yes.
 
2013-01-18 12:01:21 PM  
Sadly, "at will" is a rich man's wet dream. They can toss out human beings like a used Kleenex and not have to worry about any lawsuits.

Looks like it's up to Anonymous to take care of this butthole employer situation.
 
2013-01-18 12:01:27 PM  

OnlyM3: Illiterate liberal 1gja

lawsuits in 4....3....2....1
Illiterate liberal 2
WTF Indeed

Easiest Lawsuit Ever.

FTFA: "Federal and Utah law do not prevent private employers from firing employees on the basis of political affiliation"


Holy f*ck you are stupid.
 
2013-01-18 12:01:27 PM  
SnarfVader


I don't have my GED in law, but political affiliation is not a protected class. I do not believe the fired employees have a case (especially in Utah).

That said, the owner is an asshat and deserves a boycott of his business.

I'm sure it will be as effective as you impotent boycott of that chicken joint.
 
2013-01-18 12:01:30 PM  
I only hire republicans because they grovel at my feet in thanks for my having provided them with a job. they know that they are worthless without my assistance, that all they have is because of me, the Job Creator.
 
2013-01-18 12:01:39 PM  

scrotal_aroma: Please tell me why this is a problem, and colleges not hiring conservative professors is not?


Pfft, like a real conservative would "teach" at a "college".
 
2013-01-18 12:01:43 PM  

trapped-in-CH: And he'll be the first one to cry foul if the Obama supporters stop shopping there.


I'm waiting for the "libruls hate freedom of speech" response.
 
2013-01-18 12:01:43 PM  
Smoothie shop was here:
i212.photobucket.com

Employer in the article is here:
i212.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-18 12:02:03 PM  

You know what the best part of this is? This owner is now going to be unable to hire anyone who's not a conservative idiot throwback neanderthal. That will mean erosion of his bottom line, which will in turn mean that he will have to close down his little homoerotic smoothie shop. And the absolute best part is:


OBAMA STILL WON THE ELECTION AND THERES NOT A GODDAMN THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT
LOL ROFLMAO U SUKC N00B
 
2013-01-18 12:02:19 PM  

Dimensio: Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.

Civil or criminal liability for such a status would result in the cessation of all societal function.


Like atlas shrugged? Bring it on
 
2013-01-18 12:03:13 PM  
I see a Utah business trifecta in play...
 
gja
2013-01-18 12:03:22 PM  

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


And if you are naive enough to think there will NOT be lawsuits I urge you to get out more.
There are literally scores of lawyers who just LOVE this type of shiat because it will get their names/faces in the media.

/oh, and I don't like Obama, but this dude is an asshat of galactic proportions
 
2013-01-18 12:03:39 PM  

ghare: Carn: I don't think it's illegal, just incredibly dickish. I wouldn't think his business will last very long if he's this stupid.

His business is failing. There is no way in hell he had to fire two people because of Obamacare. But the business can't be failing because he's an idiot, you see. So the blame must go somewhere.


In that case he did them a favor.
 
2013-01-18 12:04:45 PM  
If you're carrying two employees who aren't contributing to your bottom line and can be let go without being replaced, you're just a bad business owner.

If, conversely, you would fire two employees who are adding value to your company because of their political affiliations and need to find new people to employee and train to replace them, you're also a bad business owner.

And, hell, any business that specializes in computer forensics but can't even keep it's domain registered and loses it to a car dealer just sounds like an awful outfit anyway.

I just can't imagine what it's like to live life so scared and angry all the time, but whatever.
 
2013-01-18 12:05:34 PM  
Obongo bongo bongo I don't want to leave Fartbongo oh nonononono
Obama bingle bangle, I'm so happy in rural Utah I refuse to go
 
2013-01-18 12:05:36 PM  
I thought consuming smoothies was a liberal thing to do.
 
2013-01-18 12:05:46 PM  

OnlyM3: SnarfVader


I don't have my GED in law, but political affiliation is not a protected class. I do not believe the fired employees have a case (especially in Utah).

That said, the owner is an asshat and deserves a boycott of his business.

I'm sure it will be as effective as you impotent boycott of that chicken joint.


There are no Chik-Fil-A places where I live, so I guess my personal boycott was successful.
 
2013-01-18 12:06:28 PM  

NutWrench: "Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I think that sums up the article nicely.

"Is your political affiliation protected?" he added, explaining that he thought what he did was not illegal. "I don't believe it is, but I don't know."

And this, too.


Based on the mans use of language he fired these people for supporting a black person. Imagine a Klansman beating a white man for dating a black woman. It's still a discriminatory act.
 
2013-01-18 12:07:06 PM  
Did The Onion change its name recently?

The quotes are too crazy to be real.
 
2013-01-18 12:07:14 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

This. It appears that most Farkers have not RTFA.

Political affiliation is a protected trait only if you are a government employee.

CSB:

Knew an old guy at the Tustin post office with 50 years service. (he refused to retire and get his pension since his ex-wife would get part of it). Now this guy WAS a gold-plated stereotype for the uber-conservative know-nothing meme. Made Ronald Reagan seem like a squishy liberal. He would get into farking political arguments with customers, and when talking with like-minded people would loudly complain about the mindlessness of liberals. USPS management couldn't touch him.

/CSB


Should have asked him why he worked for a socialist organization like the US Postal Service. Surely a rugged, bootstrappy guy like him could have found better work in the private sector? No? Well, then he was just a big-government parasite--no better than a liberal! That would have been a fun conversation.
 
2013-01-18 12:07:25 PM  

OnlyM3: FTFA: "Federal and Utah law do not prevent private employers from firing employees on the basis of political affiliation"


does federal law prevent people who have been fired for political affiliation from suing?
 
2013-01-18 12:07:26 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: Obongo bongo bongo I don't want to leave Fartbongo oh nonononono
Obama bingle bangle, I'm so happy in rural Utah I refuse to go


i212.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-18 12:07:30 PM  
I'm surprised he found two OBama supporters in Utah. Isn't that one of the most republican states in the country?
 
2013-01-18 12:07:32 PM  
slowgolfclap.jpg
 
2013-01-18 12:07:46 PM  

stampylives: They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were, coupled with Obongo, makes we wonder how he "just knew." If the owner "just knew" because they weren't white my-grandparents-were-born-here amuricans, that starts leaning back into lawsuit land.


Smokin' Joe McCarthy would be so proud.
 
2013-01-18 12:08:05 PM  
I bet this is the kind of guy that would put chopped bugs instead of fruit into his smoothies and would scream like a stabbed pig about "DAMN OBONGO REGULATIONS!!!" when the health department showed up and wrote a citation.
 
gja
2013-01-18 12:08:19 PM  

OnlyM3: Illiterate liberal 1gja

lawsuits in 4....3....2....1
Illiterate liberal 2
WTF Indeed

Easiest Lawsuit Ever.

FTFA: "Federal and Utah law do not prevent private employers from firing employees on the basis of political affiliation"


I am LIBERAL!?!?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHA. You fail so hard. I get shiat on this board for being a gun-toting, right-winging, teaparty-leaning 'publican.
You need to know who the hell you are talking about, friend.

I could not care less other than the guy is a jerk. Legally he may be OK, but that won't stop a lawyer from TRYING to make his life hell-on-earth.
 
2013-01-18 12:08:58 PM  

spentmiles: I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?"


You're going to have to get a lot better at writing coherent narratives before you can sell your fanfiction on Amazon, PN.
 
2013-01-18 12:09:17 PM  
Why didn't he just shoot them? Tea Party elders will not be happy with this coddling.
 
2013-01-18 12:09:50 PM  
Some places charge less for being female.
Some places give discounts if you show a tattoo.
Some places cut you a break if you're a student, or wear a certain team jersey, or have a visible piercing.
I'm liberal, but I just see it as a discount for conservative thinking people. Sadly, there's no way to really prove it, and I'd just claim to be conservative for the discount (or lack of upcharge, same thing in essence).

Where he farked up was the firing people. That's a no-no.
 
2013-01-18 12:09:59 PM  

spentmiles: I grew up in a vegan household and my mom taught me to make every type of organic burrito under the sun. When I went to college in Richmond, Virgina, I noticed a lot of hippies milling around the campus, smoking Drum and being upper middle class white kids. I saw an opportunity to make some money, so I set-up a burrito cart and sold a wrap that cost me less than a dollar to make for ten bucks. They sold like crazy, lines out the ass, and I made a ton of money.

It cracked me up too because I had this costume I'd dress up in - a tie-dye shirt, corduroy pants with some colorful shiat sewn on the sides, and a clip on feather I'd hang off my planter's hat. I looked like a Johnny shiats Himself, but the hippie kids treated me like Jerry Garcia's left nut. I was getting start to finish blow-jobs from the chicks while the dudes made themselves cool by giving me kind bud, which I sold back to them! I loved the BJs, but weed and other tranquilizers aren't interesting to me because I've got motivation and drive to do productive shiat while I'm awake.

Anyway, I'm in line at the bank one Friday with a stuffed envelope of roughly three grand in bills. I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?" She doesn't even recognize me. She blows me off like fly on the dick she's sucking. Then when I whipped out all the cash, she gave me this dirty look, like it was a bad thing to have that much money. In the meantime, she was probably withdrawing a $20 of allowance. I didn't care - I didn't hold it against her. What's it to me?

The next week, I'm back in my hippie costume, slanging burritos, and she's all doe-eyed at me, wanting to know if I wanted to come smoke with her after the lunch rush. We ended up back at her nice ass apartment, making out on the couch, my hands all over those burrito fed titties. We ...


Wow. Tears in my eyes and I have a stomach cramp. Excellent build up to the punch line.
 
2013-01-18 12:10:01 PM  

Carth: I'm surprised he found two OBama supporters in Utah. Isn't that one of the most republican states in the country?


Yeah firing them is probably nothing but good publicity there.
 
2013-01-18 12:10:03 PM  
Not legitimate unless i see it at kos
 
2013-01-18 12:10:05 PM  

Emrick: He should have fired the accountant who told him Obamacare was going to cost his business money.


I'm betting he gets his "facts" from Fox News.
 
2013-01-18 12:10:09 PM  
What a dick.
 
2013-01-18 12:10:11 PM  
He could start selling smoothies in The Citadel.
 
2013-01-18 12:10:20 PM  

WTF Indeed: Easiest Lawsuit Ever.


Not lawsuits, but easiest unemployment claim ever. Have fun with your increased premiums, redneck.
 
2013-01-18 12:10:37 PM  
Once again, the true value of our right to free speech is that it allows idiots to identify themselves.
 
2013-01-18 12:11:19 PM  
Small businesses in Utah are defined as less than 50 employees and are exempt from providing insurance coverage under the Affordable Care Act. So, this guy's claim that "Obongocare" forced him to fire two employees doesn't hold up, since it wouldn't have cost him anything in coverage no matter who had won the election. I hope a civil case moves forward and he gets explain his real reasons for firing those guys. He doesn't seem smart enough to invent a good lie.
 
2013-01-18 12:11:46 PM  

OnlyM3: Illiterate liberal 1gja
lawsuits in 4....3....2....1
Illiterate liberal 2
WTF Indeed
Easiest Lawsuit Ever.
FTFA: "Federal and Utah law do not prevent private employers from firing employees on the basis of political affiliation"


Good news, guys! If it isn't against a federal or state law, you can no longer be sued for anything!

Thanks, man. The world needs more people like you.
 
2013-01-18 12:11:54 PM  

stampylives: They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were, coupled with Obongo, makes we wonder how he "just knew." If the owner "just knew" because they weren't white my-grandparents-were-born-here amuricans, that starts leaning back into lawsuit land.


If he just knew, why did he hire them in the first place?
 
2013-01-18 12:13:07 PM  

edmo: I thought consuming smoothies was a liberal thing to do.


So is drinking tea, but look at the way the rightards tossed their chimpsh*t all over it.
 
2013-01-18 12:13:27 PM  

BMFPitt: Did The Onion change its name recently?

The quotes are too crazy to be real.


It is from Utah. I believe it. Not that Mississippi and most of Louisiana aren't as bad. You wouldn't believe some of the Facebook posts from my crazy cousin who lives in Mississippi but Utah and some other bits of the desert S.W. could teach the old South a thing or two about "conservative" craziness.

/Saw a billboard about Obama being the Antichrist on my way to Baton Rouge last Wednesday, though...
//Need to move somewhere sane.
 
2013-01-18 12:14:04 PM  

gja: OnlyM3: Illiterate liberal 1gja

lawsuits in 4....3....2....1
Illiterate liberal 2
WTF Indeed

Easiest Lawsuit Ever.

FTFA: "Federal and Utah law do not prevent private employers from firing employees on the basis of political affiliation"

I am LIBERAL!?!?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHA. You fail so hard. I get shiat on this board for being a gun-toting, right-winging, teaparty-leaning 'publican.
You need to know who the hell you are talking about, friend.

I could not care less other than the guy is a jerk. Legally he may be OK, but that won't stop a lawyer from TRYING to make his life hell-on-earth.


Yeah, that was kinda crappy. Even knowing your positions on issues, I still support you being able to say piece. I'm glad you can see a douche bag as a douche bag and don't just circle the wagons and go full party derp (which both sides are guilty of)
 
2013-01-18 12:14:08 PM  

StrangeQ: WTF Indeed: Easiest Lawsuit Ever.

Not lawsuits, but easiest unemployment claim ever. Have fun with your increased premiums, redneck.


You have got to be wrong about that. That or life's so much more unfair in the USA than I ever imagined.

He posted online that he chose them because they supported Obama. That's GOT to be a lawsuit...it is discrimination based on political leanings.
 
2013-01-18 12:15:07 PM  

Headso: Carth: I'm surprised he found two OBama supporters in Utah. Isn't that one of the most republican states in the country?

Yeah firing them is probably nothing but good publicity there.


That is what I was thinking. Looking into it a bit more Vernal Utah is in Uintah County which is the reddest county in the state. Romney won the county with 90% and Obama got 962 votes.

This kind of attention is a cheap advertising campaign in that area.
 
2013-01-18 12:15:08 PM  

stampylives: They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were, coupled with Obongo, makes we wonder how he "just knew." If the owner "just knew" because they weren't white my-grandparents-were-born-here amuricans, that starts leaning back into lawsuit land.


I'm surprised someone like this hired the only two black people in Utah in the first place.
 
2013-01-18 12:15:17 PM  
Eh, FTA it just sounds like he fired two employees for other reasons and then decided to troll for from free advertising
 
2013-01-18 12:15:44 PM  

spentmiles: I grew up in a vegan household and my mom taught me to make every type of organic burrito under the sun. When I went to college in Richmond, Virgina, I noticed a lot of hippies milling around the campus, smoking Drum and being upper middle class white kids. I saw an opportunity to make some money, so I set-up a burrito cart and sold a wrap that cost me less than a dollar to make for ten bucks. They sold like crazy, lines out the ass, and I made a ton of money.

It cracked me up too because I had this costume I'd dress up in - a tie-dye shirt, corduroy pants with some colorful shiat sewn on the sides, and a clip on feather I'd hang off my planter's hat. I looked like a Johnny shiats Himself, but the hippie kids treated me like Jerry Garcia's left nut. I was getting start to finish blow-jobs from the chicks while the dudes made themselves cool by giving me kind bud, which I sold back to them! I loved the BJs, but weed and other tranquilizers aren't interesting to me because I've got motivation and drive to do productive shiat while I'm awake.

Anyway, I'm in line at the bank one Friday with a stuffed envelope of roughly three grand in bills. I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?" She doesn't even recognize me. She blows me off like fly on the dick she's sucking. Then when I whipped out all the cash, she gave me this dirty look, like it was a bad thing to have that much money. In the meantime, she was probably withdrawing a $20 of allowance. I didn't care - I didn't hold it against her. What's it to me?

The next week, I'm back in my hippie costume, slanging burritos, and she's all doe-eyed at me, wanting to know if I wanted to come smoke with her after the lunch rush. We ended up back at her nice ass apartment, making out on the couch, my hands all over those burrito fed titties. We ...


Dear Penthouse...I never thought this would happen to me, but.....
 
2013-01-18 12:15:52 PM  

grinding_journalist: I predict much calm and rational political debate about Obamacare, Right-to-work, and non-performance related employment termination in this thread.


Buddy, did you get hired at the wrong sideshow.

/I keed
 
2013-01-18 12:15:53 PM  

theorellior: Wow. Someone actually uses the term "Obongo" in normal conversation.

So... this guy makes his living contracting to a government agency. What part of that isn't socialism?


Um, The contracting part?

youkeepusingthat word.jpeg
 
2013-01-18 12:15:53 PM  
In a country founded by descendents of people who ostensibly were fleeing persecution, you'd think that people would be a bit more sensitive about persecuting others.
 
2013-01-18 12:16:05 PM  

trapped-in-CH: And he'll be the first one to cry foul if the Obama supporters stop shopping there.


remember now, his business is in Utah - and he just fired half of the state's Obama supporters - losing two more isn't going to hurt business.
 
2013-01-18 12:16:14 PM  
"Is your political affiliation protected?" he added, explaining that he thought what he did was not illegal. "I don't believe it is, but I don't know."

A smart business owner would have consulted with his lawyers first not just guessed and left their business open to a possible massive lawsuit.

But then again....this douche owns a freakin smoothie shop he's not exactly a corporate genius. (obviously)
 
2013-01-18 12:16:27 PM  
www.freesmileys.org
 
2013-01-18 12:16:33 PM  

tricycleracer: This guy is bound for failure...

...which he'll blame on Obama.

He can't lose.


It's cool, he didn't build his business.
 
2013-01-18 12:17:11 PM  

stonicus: stampylives: They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were, coupled with Obongo, makes we wonder how he "just knew." If the owner "just knew" because they weren't white my-grandparents-were-born-here amuricans, that starts leaning back into lawsuit land.

If he just knew, why did he hire them in the first place?


So he could make a big stupid production out of firing them?
 
2013-01-18 12:17:26 PM  
I think it's funny and fitting
I also think it's kinda rude
If you have no difference in opinion
then you'll never have a new idea.

That said, most 'bama voters I know just regurgitate the same pap someone else told 'em
 
2013-01-18 12:19:13 PM  
"Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes,"
What a nice christian. I hope at other christian read what he has done and shun him. For the rest of his life.
He is clearly doing the work of stan.
 
2013-01-18 12:19:28 PM  

natas6.0: I think it's funny and fitting
I also think it's kinda rude
If you have no difference in opinion
then you'll never have a new idea.

That said, most 'bama voters I know just regurgitate the same pap someone else told 'em


By contrast, the right-noise machine is renowned for generating intelligent people with independently formed ideas.
 
2013-01-18 12:19:57 PM  
These guys' utopia would be every business in the country with a very clear red or blue sign on the outside, so dangerously different opinions would NEVER mix.

To say nothing about the very concept of reacting to a perceived slight (someone taking my money away via taxes!) by then paying it forward to the people under you (take away my employees' money via firing!) then pretending you're better than your oppressor. This guy has no issue with punishing his underlings during tough times, so why would he expect Obama or anyone to be different?

/rhetorical question
 
2013-01-18 12:20:24 PM  
There is another wave of layoffs coming. All because of more taxes and regulations.

I'd start with the democrats as well.
 
2013-01-18 12:20:55 PM  
I wonder what's next in this butthole's sage of DoucheBaggery?

"I went out to the park today and threw rocks at liberal babies. Then I went over to some liberal's house and set it on fire. I knew it was a stinking liberal house because of the lack of flags and crying eagles in the front yard like EVERY god-fearing real American™ has. Let Obongo's commie fire department worry about it."
 
2013-01-18 12:20:59 PM  

lostcat: In a country founded by descendents of people who ostensibly were fleeing persecution, you'd think that people would be a bit more sensitive about persecuting others.


Umm, this country was founded by rich American lawyers pissed off that rich English lawyers were cutting them out of the pie.
 
2013-01-18 12:21:07 PM  

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


Thought so.

And the "actions have consquences" effect -- whether he'll gain more customers who side with his philosophical and political beliefs than lose those who are contrary.

/sound of Adam Smith's one hand wanking off
 
2013-01-18 12:21:50 PM  
Funny if he utilities were cut by the utility company for his political belief.
 
2013-01-18 12:22:26 PM  
Damn my typing sucks.
 
2013-01-18 12:22:31 PM  

spentmiles: I grew up in a vegan household and my mom taught me  ...


Dearest spentmiles, I love you. In a bro way, to be clear.
 
2013-01-18 12:22:57 PM  
PLEASE let Civil War II start soon
 
2013-01-18 12:23:01 PM  

James F. Campbell: spentmiles: I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?"

You're going to have to get a lot better at writing coherent narratives before you can sell your fanfiction on Amazon, PN.


Pocket Ninja doesn't need an alt account to practice his art - and if he had one it surely isn't spentmiles. And yes, while spentmiles is trying to be entertaining, underneath it all he is still just a tool. I do like what he is doing now better than the last couple years of trolling, but you can't unring a bell. (or get off my favorites list)
 
2013-01-18 12:23:05 PM  
While race is a protected class, unfortunately it doesn't save people from being fired because the president is black.

But otherwise, yeah, this dude's pretty clearly a racist.
 
2013-01-18 12:23:43 PM  

Mazzic518: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

Your political party is not a protected group under EOC


funny, but neither were any of the other things until very recently.

things we might see protected soon:
political orientation
sexual orientation


plus, I thought there were laws against this from back in the days of company towns and union busting
 
2013-01-18 12:23:47 PM  

Red_Fox: StrangeQ: WTF Indeed: Easiest Lawsuit Ever.

Not lawsuits, but easiest unemployment claim ever. Have fun with your increased premiums, redneck.

You have got to be wrong about that. That or life's so much more unfair in the USA than I ever imagined.

He posted online that he chose them because they supported Obama. That's GOT to be a lawsuit...it is discrimination based on political leanings.


He can fire them for whatever reason he wants. But unless it was for something truly justifiable (constantly being late for shifts, harassing management or other workers, creating an unsafe or unsanitary work environment, ect) they can claim unemployment afterwards. Since in this case it is clear he is just an ignorant, asshole redneck, there is no way he will be able to fight their unemployment claims. When his unemployment insurance providers learn that he is just firing people because he is an ignorant, partisan hack and thus causing them to shell out money, they could possibly decide to raise his rates. They wouldn't have to, but he seems like he's made himself into too good a target not to. So yeah, stupid redneck will hopefully be reaping exactly what he has sewn. Of course, then he'll probably blame that on "obongo" too, because of course, nothing is ever a conservative's fault.
 
2013-01-18 12:25:01 PM  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud#Intimidation

so yah, how is this not voter intimidation?
 
2013-01-18 12:26:13 PM  
I wonder how he just knew? Maybe he simply asked them who they voted for and they replied, 'none of your farking business.'
 
2013-01-18 12:26:37 PM  

solitary: The Australian Constitution guarantees "freedom of political expression" - should we borrow an amendment?

 
2013-01-18 12:27:18 PM  

hammettman: Still, owner in story adds to the concrete evidence that conservatives and liberals are spiteful dicks


Fixed. A quick google shows dozens, just on the first page, of stories about people being fired for being conservative.
 
2013-01-18 12:27:20 PM  

kombat_unit: tricycleracer: This guy is bound for failure...

...which he'll blame on Obama.

He can't lose.

It's cool, he didn't build his business.


Apologies in advance if you were being sarcastic (Poe's Law)

Is disregard for context a mental disorder for conservatives? Yes, I'm sure that this boot strappy business owner built the highways and bridges for customers to come to his store; educated his workers from grades K-12 so they could interact with customers and do tasks proficiently; and invented the Internet to allow for easy advertising and communication.

Why the fark does everything have to be reduced to bumper sticker slogans for Republicans? Here's the original quote some folks lack the intellectual curiosity to look it up.

"There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me - because they want to give something back. They know they didn't - look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something - there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business - you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don't do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That's how we funded the GI Bill. That's how we created the middle class. That's how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That's how we invented the Internet. That's how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that's the reason I'm running for President - because I still believe in that idea. You're not on your own, we're in this together."
 
2013-01-18 12:30:01 PM  

kombat_unit: lostcat: In a country founded by descendents of people who ostensibly were fleeing persecution, you'd think that people would be a bit more sensitive about persecuting others.

Umm, this country was founded by rich American lawyers pissed off that rich English lawyers were cutting them out of the pie.


Thus the word "ostensibly."

I'm guessing that this guy is a ferverent believer in the history as taught in public school.
 
2013-01-18 12:30:10 PM  

madgonad: Pocket Ninja doesn't need an alt account to practice his art - and if he had one it surely isn't spentmiles.


Yeah, you're right. spentmiles is funnier.

madgonad: And yes, while spentmiles is trying to be entertaining, underneath it all he is still just a tool. I do like what he is doing now better than the last couple years of trolling, but you can't unring a bell. (or get off my favorites list)


Both of them pale in comparison to StopArrestingMe.
 
2013-01-18 12:31:00 PM  

kombat_unit: Umm, this country was founded by rich American lawyers pissed off that rich English lawyers were cutting them out of the pie.


Also drunks and drug dealers. Don't forget them, they're an integral part of the fabric of this country.
 
2013-01-18 12:33:44 PM  

Almet: The fool! He's just allowing them to go on Obongo's indefinate unemployment and 0boingboingcare and 0bama-llama phones!


HELL-yeah! Just got the letters Tuesday: Since Obama extended the UI, got another 13 weeks extension at $412 per week, then ANOTHER new claim, automatically following that, at $205 per week for 26 weeks - plus another 67 weeks of extensions for that claim.

And Monday we were notified we could start hunting for a Section 8 apartment. We'll be paying 30% of our combined monthly "income" for it, the taxpayers picking up the rest.

THANKS, taxpayers!
 
2013-01-18 12:33:53 PM  

JollyMagistrate: They might not be able to sue based upon protected class but they could sue for wrongful termination. Political affiliation does not constitute poor work performance nor does it guarantee the employer carteblanche for removal. They may have trouble if they are in a "right to work/fire" state, but there is certainly footholds for legal action with this.


Um, actually, no. They can't. Utah (where this occurred) is an at-will employment state. That means the employer can terminate the employee at any time, with or without cause, so long as the employee is not terminated for any reason that appears to violate the list of reasons covered by Equal Opportunity (and complaints that give the appearance are investigated rigorously--just because it gives the appearance to you doesn't mean that the investigation will go in your favor. I've witnessed two such investigations and EEOC turns over every stone--if there is discrimination, they will find it).

At will employment means that your employer can terminate your employment at any time, for no reason or for any reason (except those prohibited by law--race, religion, disability...see the list on page one), and the reason doesn't have to have anything to do with your work performance. In fact, the reason could be, literally, anything so long as it doesn't violate EO...which does not cover political affiliation. If they try to sue and they go with an EO angle, they won't get very far unless they get a judge who legislates from the bench. If that happens, if the smoothie maker's lawyer is smart, he'll push it to the Supreme Court... and he will win if the Justices have the good sense to do what they did with Obamacare and kick it back to Congress, where it belongs.

TL;DR - we don't have to like it, but this isn't a court issue, it's a legislative one. Currently, the laws favor the businesses, not the workers, and they have since the 40's. Want to change it? Contact a State Congresscritter and push like that 19 year old kid there was an article on the other day.
 
2013-01-18 12:35:07 PM  

madgonad: Maybe the terminated employees will exercise their second amendment rights?


The guy's an asshat and deserves a fine and/or to see his business suffer, but shooting him seems a little harsh.

Now, if was lost so much business and/or got hit with a fine so bad that he had to go on unemployment or welfare, that would be some lovely ironic justice.
 
2013-01-18 12:36:08 PM  
So the attention whore asshole continues to be an attention whore asshole... this is my complete lack of surprise.
 
2013-01-18 12:36:17 PM  
I bet if you ask this small business owner how much "Obamacare" would actually cost him he couldn't pull a single number of the air.  And if he doesn't have enough business to justify those workers then why did he hire them in the first place?

/most small business people aren't the brightest bulbs in the world
 
2013-01-18 12:37:01 PM  

Aigoo: push like that 19 year old kid there was an article on the other day.


the one changin laws or teh one banging his teacher?
 
2013-01-18 12:37:11 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: THANKS, taxpayers!


As a fellow American citizen, I would prefer that your basic human needs were supplied for rather than you getting shoved out on the street to fend for yourself. However, given your posting record, this does indicate you don't have the proof of your convictions and would prefer to be a "leech" rather than be "bootstrappy". So noted.
 
2013-01-18 12:39:56 PM  
Don 't worry. I'm sure Obama will take care of all their expenses.
 
2013-01-18 12:39:57 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-18 12:40:04 PM  

trapped-in-CH: And he'll be the first one to cry foul if the Obama supporters stop shopping there.


Oh no, he'll blame his shop closing on Obongocare which he dodged providiong anyway. And those taxes that went up on him, but can't name exactly which tax went up.

You know, party of personal responsibility and all that.
 
2013-01-18 12:40:16 PM  

Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.


And very petty. It also calls into question his logic and decision making, plus hurts his business in the long term as people will not want to deal with someone who will drop them based on opinions that do not impact their work.
 
2013-01-18 12:41:07 PM  

Opus Croakus: Eh, FTA it just sounds like he fired two employees for other reasons and then decided to troll for from free advertising


I think the 'other reasons' are just the math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better.
 
2013-01-18 12:41:58 PM  
Been looking through his FB, I really liked this one:
sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-01-18 12:42:01 PM  

StrangeQ: He can fire them for whatever reason he wants. But unless it was for something truly justifiable (constantly being late for shifts, harassing management or other workers, creating an unsafe or unsanitary work environment, ect) they can claim unemployment afterwards. Since in this case it is clear he is just an ignorant, asshole redneck, there is no way he will be able to fight their unemployment claims. When his unemployment insurance providers learn that he is just firing people because he is an ignorant, partisan hack and thus causing them to shell out money, they could possibly decide to raise his rates. They wouldn't have to, but he seems like he's made himself into too good a target not to. So yeah, stupid redneck will hopefully be reaping ripping exactly what he has sewn. Of course, then he'll probably blame that on "obongo" too, because of course, nothing is ever a conservative's fault.


Sorry, pet peave.
 
2013-01-18 12:42:07 PM  
This guy doesn't even have a website. (Terrylee.com redirects to a honda dealer) If he fired two employees, then he must have negative two employees now. This isn't even worth getting worked up over.
 
2013-01-18 12:42:20 PM  

gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1


Except that neither Federal or Utah state law prohibits people from being fired over political affiliation and that Utah is an "at will" state, means that as long as the employer has a valid reason to fire such as performance, the person can still collect unemployment. There are also clauses in the event someone is fired for performance that they may have to sign to agree NOT to sue.

So, your argument is invalid. Have a smoothie.
 
2013-01-18 12:43:16 PM  
that's some quality readin' there, subs
 
2013-01-18 12:43:37 PM  

Heraclitus: Maybe they can claim being liberal is a disability...


It is a mental disorder
 
2013-01-18 12:43:38 PM  

namatad: Mazzic518: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

Your political party is not a protected group under EOC

funny, but neither were any of the other things until very recently.

things we might see protected soon:
political orientation
sexual orientation


plus, I thought there were laws against this from back in the days of company towns and union busting


If it is an at-will work or w/e they call it state they can fire you for w/e they want and just make up a reason
 
2013-01-18 12:43:43 PM  
So... 2 contract employees were let go by a guy that has a business small enough to be exempt from the mandatory provisions. He admits that business had slowed, and being a computer forensics company means either crimes requiring his services have been in decline (good for public, bad for his business) or his company sucks ass at what they do enough to where local law enforcement is going to other service providers (bad for everyone).

I am not disappointed in his choice to let those 2 contractors go, that is his prerogative. I am disappointed that someone in the press felt that this was enough of a news worthy story to print.
 
2013-01-18 12:45:00 PM  

H31N0US: Good, now they can go get jobs working for someone who isn't an asshole about providing healthcare for his workers.


If they had the option of working for someone besides this asshole, they would have been doing that already.
 
2013-01-18 12:45:59 PM  
solitary


Why do you hate democracy Smoothie Man?


Now you just have to ask the other guy in the article who fired 2 people.

Smoothie man was the one who charged more. 2 different businesses.
 
2013-01-18 12:46:00 PM  
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-01-18 12:46:13 PM  
He runs a forensics lab that the police there use... I doubt his business will suffer an iota. Sadly.

That said... I REALLY question the quality of the scientific work produced by an outfit led by that idiot. For instance:
"They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were," Lee said.
...and
"Is your political affiliation protected?" he added, explaining that he thought what he did was not illegal. "I don't believe it is, but I don't know."

...and the fact that Obamacare has squat to do with his business unless he hires 43 more employees to add to the 7 he has left - a growth of his company by more than 5 times its current size! So he doesn't know for sure he fired Obama supporters but just who in his gut he thought were Obama supporters, he fired people without even knowing for certain he wasn't commiting an illegal act and all because he wrongly believes Obamacare will apply to his business. Oh yeah, and he's racist too.

Yeah, that's EXACTLY the kind of guy I want the police sendig my forensic evidence off to. I'm so sure we can expect impartial, unbiased, professionally handled scientific work products to come from his business.

/sarcasm off
Hmmmnn.... Come to think of it, that's probably exactly what why the police like to use him...
 
2013-01-18 12:46:20 PM  
Either this guy is really terrible at what he does or he fired them for other reasons and wants to sound like a badass conservative
 
2013-01-18 12:46:52 PM  

cbathrob: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

This. It appears that most Farkers have not RTFA.

Political affiliation is a protected trait only if you are a government employee.

CSB:

Knew an old guy at the Tustin post office with 50 years service. (he refused to retire and get his pension since his ex-wife would get part of it). Now this guy WAS a gold-plated stereotype for the uber-conservative know-nothing meme. Made Ronald Reagan seem like a squishy liberal. He would get into farking political arguments with customers, and when talking with like-minded people would loudly complain about the mindlessness of liberals. USPS management couldn't touch him.

/CSB

Should have asked him why he worked for a socialist organization like the US Postal Service. Surely a rugged, bootstrappy guy like him could have found better work in the private sector? No? Well, then he was just a big-government parasite--no better than a liberal! That would have been a fun conversation.


Not sure if serious.... (reads profile)... yep, you're serious. Somewhat overused and boring Straw Man there, Timmy. Also Broken Context, elements of Hasty Generalization, and other assorted bullshiat lines of argument.

Please try to pay close attention now, Tim-Tim: many if not most conservatives believe that government does, indeed, have legitimate functions. ONE of those functions, mentioned in fact in the Constitution (Section 8) is the establishment of Post Offices.

So your silly bankrupt point is actually pointless. Please get a new routine, Timmy; this one needs some rotten tomatoes thrown at it.

Your Bestest Friend
JAOCHG

kthksby
 
2013-01-18 12:47:03 PM  

Almet: The fool! By firing his employees without just cause, he's enabling them to go on undefinate unemployment and welfare. He's doing exactly by 0bungalowbob wants!


www.rankopedia.com
A classic blunder!
 
2013-01-18 12:49:54 PM  
This guy's just admitting to what I know for a fact goes on behind the scenes a lot anyway.
 
2013-01-18 12:49:57 PM  

Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'


This.
 
2013-01-18 12:50:17 PM  

darkscout: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class
...
Genetic information - Federal: Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act


But political affiliation is a genetic predisposition! :-o

/Yes I know that's not what the law means
 
2013-01-18 12:50:35 PM  

skullkrusher: that's some quality readin' there, subs


Who's more the fool? The subby, or the thread that follows them?
 
2013-01-18 12:50:38 PM  
Sounds like he picked the low hanging fruit at his business to cut costs his accountant told him to mitigate, after already having declining business. The two people he fired were part time contractors, so it stands to question what, if any, healthcare benefits he would've provided to them in the first place, but I digress. The point is he's a dick.
 
2013-01-18 12:51:31 PM  

madgonad: James F. Campbell: spentmiles: I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?"

You're going to have to get a lot better at writing coherent narratives before you can sell your fanfiction on Amazon, PN.

Pocket Ninja doesn't need an alt account to practice his art - and if he had one it surely isn't spentmiles. And yes, while spentmiles is trying to be entertaining, underneath it all he is still just a tool. I do like what he is doing now better than the last couple years of trolling, but you can't unring a bell. (or get off my favorites list)


You can sell fanfiction on amazon?
 
2013-01-18 12:51:39 PM  

WTF Indeed: Easiest Lawsuit Ever.


Yep, settled quickly with the words: "case dismissed."
 
2013-01-18 12:51:39 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Been looking through his FB, I really liked this one:
[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 403x403]


What a Derp Singularity might look like.
 
2013-01-18 12:52:06 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x540]


Step away from this guy's fb.
 
2013-01-18 12:52:55 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: How can he charge more for a drink? Don't these places have posted prices?
Also, how does he determine someones political leanings?


I'm kinda curious about how that works myself? Does he ask his customers who they voted for in the last election? Does he have a sign up giving different prices for liberals? If I were in Utah I'd want to pay the store a visit just to see how it works.
 
2013-01-18 12:52:59 PM  

Coastalgrl: madgonad: James F. Campbell: spentmiles: I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?"

You're going to have to get a lot better at writing coherent narratives before you can sell your fanfiction on Amazon, PN.

Pocket Ninja doesn't need an alt account to practice his art - and if he had one it surely isn't spentmiles. And yes, while spentmiles is trying to be entertaining, underneath it all he is still just a tool. I do like what he is doing now better than the last couple years of trolling, but you can't unring a bell. (or get off my favorites list)

You can sell fanfiction on amazon?


Yea, just change the names like the 50 shades of grey lady did.
 
2013-01-18 12:53:32 PM  

Weaver95: Dimensio: Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'

Depending upon the political demographics of Cedar City, the owner may have in fact increased his business.

if I were a small business owner, that's a risk I wouldn't take.  i'd keep national politics out of my store.  that shiat can backfire on you REAL fast.


CSB: My ex-father-in-law was a Foxnews-quoting-Republican, operating a small business in a very, very blue state. He drags politics into his business constantly. During the 2004 election he covered his 8' store logo with a special ordered "Bush/Cheney" sign. Needless to say, he does very well at alienating his customers.
What killed me was listening to my ex-wife whine about how her fathers business has been losing money every year since he bought it. Her whole family couldn't understand it.
 
2013-01-18 12:54:24 PM  
The party of morals, ladies and gentleman.
 
2013-01-18 12:54:34 PM  

Dimensio: As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


Do you have to violate a law to be sued?
 
2013-01-18 12:54:56 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x540]


You probably think this is the most clever thing in the world don't you, you precious thing.
 
2013-01-18 12:55:02 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Almet: The fool! He's just allowing them to go on Obongo's indefinate unemployment and 0boingboingcare and 0bama-llama phones!

HELL-yeah! Just got the letters Tuesday: Since Obama extended the UI, got another 13 weeks extension at $412 per week, then ANOTHER new claim, automatically following that, at $205 per week for 26 weeks - plus another 67 weeks of extensions for that claim.

And Monday we were notified we could start hunting for a Section 8 apartment. We'll be paying 30% of our combined monthly "income" for it, the taxpayers picking up the rest.

THANKS, taxpayers!


You're welcome. Considering your situation, I'm sure we'll never hear a peep from you about welfare queens, moochers, or anything similar, right?
 
2013-01-18 12:55:14 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x540]


There are no words
 
2013-01-18 12:55:19 PM  
As everyone knows, the proper way to refer to the President is "Fartbongo."

Show some respect, dude.
 
gja
2013-01-18 12:55:25 PM  

ramblinwreck: Is disregard for context a mental disorder for conservatives?


No, it is a disorder in those with no ability to critically think, and those who lack perspective.

I am conservative, but I do not think anyone who has read some of my posts would liken me to the proverbial "wing-nut" or "herp-a-derp-righty".

Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.

Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides) and have decided that this is not the correct nor opportune time to give face-smacks all around and raise up to make our points and assert ourselves. We are patient and know we need to "pick our battles".
When we DO decide to make a ruckus the FIRST ones out the door will be those who decided the right side of the road wasn't far enough right and they felt the need to drive straight off into the ditch, then sit there whining "you aren't helping us".  We will not only leave them behind we just may fill the ditch in with cement so those fossils can at least be useful as future fuel to be used be later generations (if we are still burning stuff at that point).

The next to find themselves sitting on the curb for their hissy-fits will be the ultra-left who demanded too many entitlements and laws to protect them from themselves because they lack self-control and willpower. That crap is getting REALLY old with those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.

No enlightened human treats another with such disdain as to capriciously fire them from a job in this economy, knowing full well how hard this may make things for them. It's mean-spirited at best, evil at worst. Too many of us are just a paycheck away from dire financial straits. Such a callous disregard for each other only helps spread the hurt and deepen the wounds. Not very smart, not very nice.
 
2013-01-18 12:55:58 PM  

Rwa2play: Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'

This.


or, perhaps, competitors will be forced to adopt a similar stance since this business is in farking Utah in a county that gave Obama 12.78% of the vote
 
2013-01-18 12:56:02 PM  
job creators!
 
2013-01-18 12:57:40 PM  

ciberido: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: How can he charge more for a drink? Don't these places have posted prices?
Also, how does he determine someones political leanings?

I'm kinda curious about how that works myself? Does he ask his customers who they voted for in the last election? Does he have a sign up giving different prices for liberals? If I were in Utah I'd want to pay the store a visit just to see how it works.


The smoothie shop is in Vernal, UT. It's a small town (9,089) so it could be that small town, "Everyone knows everybody," (Which is why I hate small towns, but that's immaterial) thing that gives the owner a reading on who it is coming to the shop. He probably doesn't even announce the price change; it just gets put into the register without the customer really noticing.
 
2013-01-18 12:57:53 PM  

Rwa2play: Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'

This.



And, "This guy fires people because they LOOK like his political enemies. What's he going to do if he doesn't like the way YOU look?"

Never see an ad, but word of mouth, maybe.
 
2013-01-18 12:59:00 PM  
Wow, smoothie owner. Now you have media awareness of your opinions which mean you will hurt around 50% of your business (more or less depending on how the town leans). Good job in opening your mouth which will probably resulting in boycotting by at least some of your customer base.
 
2013-01-18 12:59:09 PM  

Carth: I'm surprised he found two OBama supporters in Utah. Isn't that one of the most republican states in the country?


Where there is skiing, rock climbing, rafting, and mountains in general there will be a consort of liberals.
 
2013-01-18 12:59:11 PM  

gja: ramblinwreck: Is disregard for context a mental disorder for conservatives?

No, it is a disorder in those with no ability to critically think, and those who lack perspective.

I am conservative, but I do not think anyone who has read some of my posts would liken me to the proverbial "wing-nut" or "herp-a-derp-righty".

Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.

Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides) and have decided that this is not the correct nor opportune time to give face-smacks all around and raise up to make our points and assert ourselves. We are patient and know we need to "pick our battles".
When we DO decide to make a ruckus the FIRST ones out the door will be those who decided the right side of the road wasn't far enough right and they felt the need to drive straight off into the ditch, then sit there whining "you aren't helping us".  We will not only leave them behind we just may fill the ditch in with cement so those fossils can at least be useful as future fuel to be used be later generations (if we are still burning stuff at that point).

The next to find themselves sitting on the curb for their hissy-fits will be the ultra-left who demanded too many entitlements and laws to protect them from themselves because they lack self-control and willpower. That crap is getting REALLY old with those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.

No enlightened human treats another with such disdain as to capriciously fire them from a job in this economy, knowing full well how hard this may make things for them. It's mean-spirited at best, evil at worst. Too many of us are just a paycheck away from dire financial straits. Such a callous disregard for each other only helps spread the hurt and deepen the wounds. ...


Serious question: what's this "extremism" on the left moderate conservatives like you are afraid of? Because honestly the left in this country isn't that left. The Green Party hardly counts as an "extreme" when their candidate gets less than 1% of the popular vote.
 
2013-01-18 12:59:30 PM  

LeroyBourne: CapeFearCadaver: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x540]

Step away from this guy's fb.


Yeah, I probably should. It's giving me a sad.
 
2013-01-18 01:00:12 PM  

Weaver95: true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.


He's in Utah. Firing employees who are Democrats is a good advertising campaign there. Sure, he might lose the business of the one non-Mormon in town, but that's no big deal.
 
2013-01-18 01:02:11 PM  
Hey look at that, the company has a facebook page. What to do...what to do...
 
2013-01-18 01:02:56 PM  

apoptotic: stonicus: stampylives: They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were, coupled with Obongo, makes we wonder how he "just knew." If the owner "just knew" because they weren't white my-grandparents-were-born-here amuricans, that starts leaning back into lawsuit land.

If he just knew, why did he hire them in the first place?

So he could make a big stupid production out of firing them?


It was all to get Sarah Palin's attention.
 
2013-01-18 01:03:33 PM  

scrotal_aroma: Please tell me why this is a problem, and colleges not hiring conservative professors is not?


It's not that colleges DONT hire conservative professors, it's just that real scientists and academics are incredibly unlikely to BE conservative.


http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics- a nd-religion/
 
2013-01-18 01:04:03 PM  
Political affiliation is a protected class in SOME states.

/being an asshole is not a protected class
 
2013-01-18 01:05:29 PM  

Endive Wombat: Carn: I don't think it's illegal, just incredibly dickish. I wouldn't think his business will last very long if he's this stupid.

Even so, some enterprising lawyer will gladly pick up their case as they attempt a wrongful termination suit.


That seems unlikely. Guy seems dickish enough that he would fight it to the end, and given that the law is pretty clearly in his favor, any plaintiff's attorney who would take the case on contingency would realize that his odds of victory are not only very, very slim, but the odds of him getting sanctioned for brining a frivolous lawsuit with no hope of success are actually worth noting.
 
2013-01-18 01:05:47 PM  
Oh, I also learned that he's a polygamist (yeah, Utah) and his young daughter had gotten pregnant.
 
2013-01-18 01:06:17 PM  

Rapmaster2000: "Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I didn't know people used Obongo in non-ironic terms.


Yes, and it is no way racist.
 
2013-01-18 01:09:28 PM  
Dumbass.

Have fun with your lawsuit.
 
2013-01-18 01:10:24 PM  

mrlewish: Funny if he utilities were cut by the utility company for his political belief.


That would be funny.. except I'm guessing he pays his bills without the taxpayers help.
 
2013-01-18 01:10:28 PM  

Mr. Carpenter: scrotal_aroma: Please tell me why this is a problem, and colleges not hiring conservative professors is not?

It's not that colleges DONT hire conservative professors, it's just that real scientists and academics are incredibly unlikely to BE conservative.


http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics- a nd-religion/


Linky
 
2013-01-18 01:10:36 PM  

gja: Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides)


See that? That, right there? That is the problem. The "both sides" argument is nothing but a convenient, bullshiat copout.

The vast majority of the hate, bile, vitriol and extremism in this country comes from the right. They are the cause of the biggest divides, and the ultimate source of the lack of progress towards anything meaningful.

Yes, there are extreme stances on the left. PETA. PETA is farking rediculous, but skinny chicks wearing salad leaves over their crotches demonstrates not even a fraction of the mental insanity it takes to completely lose your shiat at the suggestion that we might have a gun problem.

It is conservative extremism that is bringing this country to a grinding, crushing halt. If you really consider yourself an honest person that truly wants to better your life and the lives of those around you, then you will stop and never again spout the bullshiat nonsense that "both sides are equally bad." Both sides can be bad, yes; one side in particular has gone head and shoulders above the rest in its efforts to divide, marginalize and terrorize. Quit lieing to yourself and others and admit the farking truth.
 
2013-01-18 01:11:33 PM  

pciszek: Weaver95: true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.

He's in Utah. Firing employees who are Democrats is a good advertising campaign there. Sure, he might lose the business of the one non-Mormon in town, but that's no big deal.


But if he's that petty, who is to say that he will just stop with liberals? 'Oh you vote republican but support this issue which I hate? Dollar more!' Plus it opens up a can of worms for him, making people wonder what else he is doing besides firing and extra charge. And what happens when he incorrectly assumes someone is liberal and pulls crap on them?

He claims his business will fail, and odds are his own actions will lead to it.
 
2013-01-18 01:12:46 PM  
I don't think Terry Lee fired anyone because of their politics.  He trolled the comments, the newspaper bit, and he kept trolling.

1. A digital forensics firm in Cedar City, UT, had more than 50 employees? I don't think so, Tim.

2. He said his business has been declining for two years.  There's a good reason to fire people.

3. He also said the people fired had performance issues.
 
2013-01-18 01:13:38 PM  

scrotal_aroma: Please tell me why this is a problem, and colleges not hiring conservative professors is not?


I suppose maybe it would be, if that were actually happening. But you'll need some sort of evidence if you expect people to believe that colleges are systematically not hiring conservative professors.
 
2013-01-18 01:14:41 PM  
"For fifty bucks, you get 10 minutes in the walk-in with this young fella."

www.sltrib.com
 
2013-01-18 01:14:48 PM  

stirfrybry: bulldg4life: From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.

LOL@racecard


This, why do people continue to throw down the term racist for every single statement they don't agree with?
 
2013-01-18 01:15:31 PM  

deanis: Who would WANT to work for that prick anyways?


Most people don't want to work at all. The catch is, the necessities of life cannot be obtained, indeed you cannot even occupy space in this country, without exchanging some form of currency. That leaves the options of either being born into an inheritance, stealing, or getting a job.
 
2013-01-18 01:16:06 PM  

Petit_Merdeux: After letting the two part-time contract workers go, Terry Lee Forensics has nine employees who work with local law enforcement and attorneys to retrieve digital data from encrypted computer hard drives. Terry Lee would not release the names of the two part-timers.

He said that in the past couple of years he has had to cut costs as his business has slowed. But he said his accountant recently told him that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, had raised his company's taxes and operating costs. Asked to detail those costs, Lee deferred to his accountant, who could not be reached for comment. Obamacare mandates that only businesses with more than 50 employees be required to insure full-time employees or face penalties.


Sounds like he needed to let two people go, and why not blame that damn n***** in the "White" House?

"Terry Lee Forensics"? Sounds like a hair salon.


Not to mention that the two he let go were 'part-time contract workers' who wouldn't be covered even if he did have more than 50 employees.
 
2013-01-18 01:17:05 PM  

MyPenIsHuge: stirfrybry: bulldg4life: From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.

LOL@racecard

This, why do people continue to throw down the term racist for every single statement they don't agree with?


"obongo" is 5/6s "bongo".
Get it now?
 
2013-01-18 01:17:17 PM  

theorellior: So... this guy makes his living contracting to a government agency. What part of that isn't socialism?


Aha, are government contractors constrained in ways other businesses aren't as far as being blatantly political?
 
2013-01-18 01:17:47 PM  
If the law is with you, pound the law. If equity is with you, pound equity.--Old legal maxim

Although US law has limited grounds for basic political, civil and economic rights, unlike the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which explicitly states that the rights and freedoms mentioned therein are not complete and all-inclusive and thus leaves the question of rights and freedoms for other classes, groups, and categories opened-ended, there is more than law in play here.

Americans are guaranteed freedom of speech, freedom of association, and many other freedoms, including the right to vote (admittedly freedoms and rights often violated throughout US history).

Firing somebody because of their political opinions or even actions (such as voting, campaigning, running for office) may not be a violation of their explicitly-named and legislated rights and freedoms, but it is an assault on their rights and freedoms nonetheless, and therefore a tort as well as unAmerican, and contratry to the intent and meaning of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, various Amendments to the Constitution and many other laws.

In short, they have excellent grounds to litigate against discrimination which violates their rights as citizens, even though those rights are not part of those designated-identity group rights and freedoms.

After all, the rights of the citizen are prior to and fundamental to the guarantees of the rights of various groups (religious, ethnic, national, demographic, etc.). These rights and freedoms are shared by all and based deeply in the ethics, morals, religion, political theory and values of the American state and society. So fundamental are they, that there was and is no need to declare them as group-identity rights. They are not rights guaranteed to groups that have proven victims of discrimination and wrongs--they are the basic rights and freedoms of the citizen and the Rights of Man.

I suggest taking some of these cases of quasi-fascistic partisan persecution to not only US courts but to international coursts where the rights of humanity are protected.

Employers do not have the right to dictate the political opinions or actions of citizens. In Canada, for example, even Government employees have the right to vote (and employers must give them time off without penalty or reduction in pay if they have to vote during working hours), the right to participate in political activities (such as campaigning for a candidate or even taking leave to be a candidate) and so forth.

I do not know if American employees have the same explicit rights and freedoms as Canadian employees, but I think they should.

This guy is obviously one of those ultra-partisan reactionaries who object to the existence of their opponents, not merely their policies and values. Like the Coors beer company, who were found guilty of discrimination not only against Democrats and liberals, but also women, non-whites, non-Christians, and non-conservatives generally, this guy could be facing a heap of hurt if he persists in discriminating against the free exercise of political rights and freedoms that don't always go his way.

He's the type of "republican" who makes me wonder if the ancient Greek democracy of Athens was not entirely justified to deny political office and power to the oligarchs that were over-turned when the city-state became a genuine direct democracy (for some time).

At the very least, corporations should not have the right to usurp and overturn the will of the sovereign people under the pretext of being "legal persons", and billionaires should not be allowed to vote with their dollars and their lobbies and propaganda organs disguised as "think tanks" and their private armies of seditious PR flac-mongers and liars.

A majority of the voters elected Obama. A majority of voters elected the Senate. I'm not sure the House Republicans was elected by a majority--maybe they were elected by the right-wing 47%ers--the system has been skewed conservative for a long time, since the days of the 6/10ths citizen and the direct election of the Presidents and Governors by legislative bodies rather than the people, all of which were reactionary rules designed to favour the upper classes and suppress the 99%.

It's clear that the values of liberal democracy are far from universal, even in America and such countries, which created them, but the majority still prize democracy, real freedom, and a state that protects its citizens, their dependants and other residents.
 
2013-01-18 01:18:31 PM  

theorellior: So... this guy makes his living contracting to a government agency. What part of that isn't socialism?


all of it
 
2013-01-18 01:18:43 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't think Terry Lee fired anyone because of their politics.  He trolled the comments, the newspaper bit, and he kept trolling.


And the fired people have perfect cause to file for unemployment and jack-up his premiums. When he tries to spout something about poor performance, all they have to do is point to his own words in these articles.
 
2013-01-18 01:19:53 PM  

MyPenIsHuge: stirfrybry: bulldg4life: From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.

LOL@racecard

This, why do people continue to throw down the term racist for every single statement they don't agree with?


Racist.
 
2013-01-18 01:20:13 PM  

ciberido: I suppose maybe it would be, if that were actually happening. But you'll need some sort of evidence if you expect people to believe that colleges are systematically not hiring conservative professors.


There is a scandalous shortage of young-Earth creationists in the geology and biology departments of universities. At least, at real universities.
 
2013-01-18 01:20:24 PM  

StrangeQ: gja: Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides)

See that? That, right there? That is the problem. The "both sides" argument is nothing but a convenient, bullshiat copout.

The vast majority of the hate, bile, vitriol and extremism in this country comes from the right. They are the cause of the biggest divides, and the ultimate source of the lack of progress towards anything meaningful.

Yes, there are extreme stances on the left. PETA. PETA is farking rediculous, but skinny chicks wearing salad leaves over their crotches demonstrates not even a fraction of the mental insanity it takes to completely lose your shiat at the suggestion that we might have a gun problem.

It is conservative extremism that is bringing this country to a grinding, crushing halt. If you really consider yourself an honest person that truly wants to better your life and the lives of those around you, then you will stop and never again spout the bullshiat nonsense that "both sides are equally bad." Both sides can be bad, yes; one side in particular has gone head and shoulders above the rest in its efforts to divide, marginalize and terrorize. Quit lieing to yourself and others and admit the farking truth.


Plus despite their publicity arm, PETA has no where near the political sway in Congress the NRA does. Most of us still eat meat, still wear leather, drink milk, eat cheese, keep chickens in cages, and slaughter animals in filthy conditions, in facilities staffed with undocumented workers.

The left in the United States celebrates a victory when they stop a beaver dam from being drained and graded over. That's how low the bar has fallen for the left here. So for people crowing about "DEM LIBZ!!" you f*cking won, alright? You won 30 years ago. This is the price you pay for it. You get arm wrestling matches over the debt ceiling, fiscal cliff scares and crisis after crisis bringing governing to a halt. F*cking own it. It's yours. Pay up.
 
2013-01-18 01:20:43 PM  
Just because political affiliation isn't a protected class doesn't mean they don't have a case for wrongful termination.
 
2013-01-18 01:20:51 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x540]


"It stayed right where I sat it."

I lol'ed.

/but not in the way you think
//probably
 
gja
2013-01-18 01:21:06 PM  

verbaltoxin: Serious question: what's this "extremism" on the left moderate conservatives like you are afraid of? Because honestly the left in this country isn't that left. The Green Party hardly counts as an "extreme" when their candidate gets less than 1% of the popular vote.


STOP, just STOP. We are not 'afraid', we dislike extremism (from either side).
Stop misquoting and/or projecting.

To answer your query, those who think it is their RIGHT to have things handed to them without having to work for it (via entitlement programs and such), those who feel the need to have legislation enacted every time something slights them in any minor way, those who cannot manage to be civil in their discourse when discussing matters (I have found this to be FAR more frequent a trait in far-left than conservatives).
Those who scream at me when I wish them a "Merry Christmas" because it "infringes on their rights. FFS people, take a pill!
So, basically, radical extremists.

"The left", in general is fine. Most liberals have not gone off the deep end, the whackos have. They are the ones I refer to, they exist in enough numbers to be disruptive. You know, I know it, every knows it. Just like the right "wing-nuts". They need to learn this clump we are spinning on is finite and we need to coexist or perish.
 
2013-01-18 01:21:11 PM  

StrangeQ: And the fired people have perfect cause to file for unemployment and jack-up his premiums. When he tries to spout something about poor performance, all they have to do is point to his own words in these articles.


Do part time contractors get unemployment?
 
2013-01-18 01:21:26 PM  

gja: Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.



See, you SAY this, but the problem is that there are actually people who have been elected as representatives who reinforce this "stereotype".

I have always considered myself conservative too, and I was a staunch republican for around 20 years. I quit the party finally last year, because I realized that no matter how reasonable, non-racist, and non-blind-partisan I am the party which represented me is a totally different story. And that's the thing about representatives. They represent you.

So regardless of how earnestly you believe in your "don't lump me in with them" rant - and believe me I understand - it's still entirely reasonable to be lumped in with those hard-right loons because they control the narrative for the forseeable future.
 
2013-01-18 01:21:45 PM  

Red_Fox: "Is your political affiliation protected?" he added, explaining that he thought what he did was not illegal. "I don't believe it is, but I don't know."

A smart business owner would have consulted with his lawyers first not just guessed and left their business open to a possible massive lawsuit.

But then again....this douche owns a freakin smoothie shop he's not exactly a corporate genius. (obviously)


Except he doesn't own a smoothie shop. He own's a forensics business. Mind you, he's still a cretin.
 
2013-01-18 01:21:56 PM  
See kids? Exhibit 'Q', supporting my theory that Republicans are assholes.
 
2013-01-18 01:22:04 PM  

stevetherobot: Not to mention that the two he let go were 'part-time contract workers' who wouldn't be covered even if he did have more than 50 employees.


That's the Conservative way. Hire part-time contract workers that aren't protected under the law and can be exploited easily.
 
2013-01-18 01:23:07 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Been looking through his FB, I really liked this one:
[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 403x403]


Which is funny because abortion rates are higher in conservative areas than they are in liberal areas.
 
2013-01-18 01:23:36 PM  

gja: "The left", in general is fine. Most liberals have not gone off the deep end, the whackos have. They are the ones I refer to, they exist in enough numbers to be disruptive. You know, I know it, every knows it. Just like the right "wing-nuts". They need to learn this clump we are spinning on is finite and we need to coexist or perish.


"This clump we are spinning on is finite" is in fact the major point that the extremist left tree-hugging greenies have been trying to make.
 
2013-01-18 01:23:57 PM  
/Employs less than 50 workers
/Provides health insurance
/Un-American
 
2013-01-18 01:25:14 PM  
Is it just me, or are there a hell of a lot of people on the right who act like childish assholes?
 
2013-01-18 01:26:00 PM  

mongbiohazard: gja: Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.


See, you SAY this, but the problem is that there are actually people who have been elected as representatives who reinforce this "stereotype".

I have always considered myself conservative too, and I was a staunch republican for around 20 years. I quit the party finally last year, because I realized that no matter how reasonable, non-racist, and non-blind-partisan I am the party which represented me is a totally different story. And that's the thing about representatives. They represent you.

So regardless of how earnestly you believe in your "don't lump me in with them" rant - and believe me I understand - it's still entirely reasonable to be lumped in with those hard-right loons because they control the narrative for the forseeable future.


no, it's unreasonable. Stereotypes are unreasonable. They are understandable, that's how people work, but that does not mean their application is intelligent or honest. I am obviously conservative on many issues. I am also quite liberal on others. Is it reasonable to assume that because I opposed BO's original plan for tax hikes that I, by default, supported the GOP's plan? No, it isn't.
It's stupid and no amount of justifications with regards to "well the crazy conservatives are loud so deal with it" is going to make it less so.
 
2013-01-18 01:26:32 PM  

pciszek: deanis: Who would WANT to work for that prick anyways?

Most people don't want to work at all. The catch is, the necessities of life cannot be obtained, indeed you cannot even occupy space in this country, without exchanging some form of currency. That leaves the options of either being born into an inheritance, stealing, or getting a job.


Odd. Most of the people I know, and this could be biased due to me having more liberal friends than conservative friends, actually want to work. They want to be productive.
 
2013-01-18 01:29:13 PM  
For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

Thanks.


/It's different
//When we do it
///Well, it is
 
2013-01-18 01:30:34 PM  

gja: verbaltoxin: Serious question: what's this "extremism" on the left moderate conservatives like you are afraid of? Because honestly the left in this country isn't that left. The Green Party hardly counts as an "extreme" when their candidate gets less than 1% of the popular vote.

STOP, just STOP. We are not 'afraid', we dislike extremism (from either side).
Stop misquoting and/or projecting.


Answers with snark. Then goes on to complain about being snarked at. The knife cuts both ways.

To answer your query, those who think it is their RIGHT to have things handed to them without having to work for it (via entitlement programs and such), those who feel the need to have legislation enacted every time something slights them in any minor way, those who cannot manage to be civil in their discourse when discussing matters (I have found this to be FAR more frequent a trait in far-left than conservatives).
Those who scream at me when I wish them a "Merry Christmas" because it "infringes on their rights. FFS people, take a pill!
So, basically, radical extremists.


So you complain about civility, then form an argument of gross generalizations and strawmen. Take note: your first sentence, "STOP, just STOP," shows you have interest only in the other party patiently listening, while you use whatever tone you want. That is not civility. That is rote condescension and entitlement.

"The left", in general is fine. Most liberals have not gone off the deep end, the whackos have. They are the ones I refer to, they exist in enough numbers to be disruptive. You know, I know it, every knows it. Just like the right "wing-nuts". They need to learn this clump we are spinning on is finite and we need to coexist or perish.

"Disruptive." Show your work. Where are these disruptive liberals, exactly? And how do I know disruptive doesn't just mean, "Challenging my sense of privilege?"

Pro tip: you're not as far from the far right as you think you are.
 
2013-01-18 01:31:15 PM  
On suspicion of being an Obama supporter. Not because of any actual evidence. Republicanism is awesome.

If I were one of the fired employees, I would have verified that all the remaining employees were going to enjoy the benefits of "Obongocare".
 
2013-01-18 01:31:16 PM  
HAHAHAH i guess elections do have consequences
 
2013-01-18 01:31:21 PM  

Ed Grubermann: pciszek: deanis: Who would WANT to work for that prick anyways?

Most people don't want to work at all. The catch is, the necessities of life cannot be obtained, indeed you cannot even occupy space in this country, without exchanging some form of currency. That leaves the options of either being born into an inheritance, stealing, or getting a job.

Odd. Most of the people I know, and this could be biased due to me having more liberal friends than conservative friends, actually want to work. They want to be productive.


It's probably closer to the truth to say that liberals want to work and conservatives don't, based on the fact that most federal tax dollars are earned in Blue States, while most tax dollars are spent in Red States.
 
2013-01-18 01:31:25 PM  

spentmiles: I grew up in a vegan household and my mom taught me to make every type of organic burrito under the sun. When I went to college in Richmond, Virgina, I noticed a lot of hippies milling around the campus, smoking Drum and being upper middle class white kids. I saw an opportunity to make some money, so I set-up a burrito cart and sold a wrap that cost me less than a dollar to make for ten bucks. They sold like crazy, lines out the ass, and I made a ton of money.

It cracked me up too because I had this costume I'd dress up in - a tie-dye shirt, corduroy pants with some colorful shiat sewn on the sides, and a clip on feather I'd hang off my planter's hat. I looked like a Johnny shiats Himself, but the hippie kids treated me like Jerry Garcia's left nut. I was getting start to finish blow-jobs from the chicks while the dudes made themselves cool by giving me kind bud, which I sold back to them! I loved the BJs, but weed and other tranquilizers aren't interesting to me because I've got motivation and drive to do productive shiat while I'm awake.

Anyway, I'm in line at the bank one Friday with a stuffed envelope of roughly three grand in bills. I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?" She doesn't even recognize me. She blows me off like fly on the dick she's sucking. Then when I whipped out all the cash, she gave me this dirty look, like it was a bad thing to have that much money. In the meantime, she was probably withdrawing a $20 of allowance. I didn't care - I didn't hold it against her. What's it to me?

The next week, I'm back in my hippie costume, slanging burritos, and she's all doe-eyed at me, wanting to know if I wanted to come smoke with her after the lunch rush. We ended up back at her nice ass apartment, making out on the couch, my hands all over those burrito fed titties. We ...


I think you're a liar.

I'm certain you're a jerk.
 
2013-01-18 01:31:29 PM  

gja: verbaltoxin: Serious question: what's this "extremism" on the left moderate conservatives like you are afraid of? Because honestly the left in this country isn't that left. The Green Party hardly counts as an "extreme" when their candidate gets less than 1% of the popular vote.

STOP, just STOP. We are not 'afraid', we dislike extremism (from either side).
Stop misquoting and/or projecting.

To answer your query, those who think it is their RIGHT to have things handed to them without having to work for it (via entitlement programs and such), those who feel the need to have legislation enacted every time something slights them in any minor way, those who cannot manage to be civil in their discourse when discussing matters (I have found this to be FAR more frequent a trait in far-left than conservatives).
Those who scream at me when I wish them a "Merry Christmas" because it "infringes on their rights. FFS people, take a pill!
So, basically, radical extremists.

"The left", in general is fine. Most liberals have not gone off the deep end, the whackos have. They are the ones I refer to, they exist in enough numbers to be disruptive. You know, I know it, every knows it. Just like the right "wing-nuts". They need to learn this clump we are spinning on is finite and we need to coexist or perish.


I am opposed to referring to right leaning people as "wing-nuts", wing nuts are useful.
 
2013-01-18 01:31:55 PM  

spentmiles: ***snip***


Good times.
 
gja
2013-01-18 01:32:29 PM  

StrangeQ: gja: Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides)

See that? That, right there? That is the problem. The "both sides" argument is nothing but a convenient, bullshiat copout.

The vast majority of the hate, bile, vitriol and extremism in this country comes from the right. They are the cause of the biggest divides, and the ultimate source of the lack of progress towards anything meaningful.

Yes, there are extreme stances on the left. PETA. PETA is farking rediculous, but skinny chicks wearing salad leaves over their crotches demonstrates not even a fraction of the mental insanity it takes to completely lose your shiat at the suggestion that we might have a gun problem.

It is conservative extremism that is bringing this country to a grinding, crushing halt. If you really consider yourself an honest person that truly wants to better your life and the lives of those around you, then you will stop and never again spout the bullshiat nonsense that "both sides are equally bad." Both sides can be bad, yes; one side in particular has gone head and shoulders above the rest in its efforts to divide, marginalize and terrorize. Quit lieing to yourself and others and admit the farking truth.


Did I not say clearly there is extremism on both sides? I did not QUANTIFY it. Yes, the right side has a disproportionate faction of loons.
There, happy?
Let me define it more clearly so you can untwist your knickers. IT IS EXTREMISM FROM EITHER END THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEMS.
Right, left, doesn't matter. They need to go. I am doing MY part to kick the right extremists in the nuts, I expect some cooperation from my liberal friends. Too much to ask that they clean their yard (however smaller it might be)?
I don't need to hold a mea culpa-fest. I know the problems, I have it clearly in sight, and I am trying to work towards a fix.
Are you? If not, why not?

It no cop-out. There is NOTHING convenient with having to go head-to-head with jackasses who cannot see past their religious scripts and ridiculous outdated dogma. It is farking horrible at times, but I am willing to do it because it's the RIGHT thing to do.

I never wrote "both side are equally bad", nor was  that tone used in my post.
Learn to read or at least quote accurately.
 
2013-01-18 01:32:30 PM  

Phinn: As everyone knows, the proper way to refer to the President is "Fartbongo." "Sir Marx-a-Lot".

Show some respect, dude.

 
2013-01-18 01:33:12 PM  
cdn.conservativebyte.com


Got to pay the Federal Reserve the interest on that "bailout money" somehow.
 
2013-01-18 01:33:47 PM  

Dimensio: Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.

Civil or criminal liability for such a status would result in the cessation of all societal function.


That's not true. Many states forbid employment discrimination on the grounds of political affiliation. Utah just happens not to be one of them.
 
2013-01-18 01:35:41 PM  

Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?


You mean the same thing that happens every time the presidency changes hands?
 
2013-01-18 01:36:19 PM  
BAN SMOOTHIES!!!
 
2013-01-18 01:36:27 PM  
One of the cornerstones of the profession of Digital Forensics (well, ANY forensics) is an ability to prove impartiality in your investigation methods.

He just handed every opposing attorney his clients will face in court a Golden Ticket. Investigator on the stand "Do you work for someone who publicly claims he fires people for disagreeing with them politically?".

And thus, should lose his arse professionally..

/Being a douche notwithstanding.
 
2013-01-18 01:37:28 PM  

gja: StrangeQ: gja: Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides)

See that? That, right there? That is the problem. The "both sides" argument is nothing but a convenient, bullshiat copout.

The vast majority of the hate, bile, vitriol and extremism in this country comes from the right. They are the cause of the biggest divides, and the ultimate source of the lack of progress towards anything meaningful.

Yes, there are extreme stances on the left. PETA. PETA is farking rediculous, but skinny chicks wearing salad leaves over their crotches demonstrates not even a fraction of the mental insanity it takes to completely lose your shiat at the suggestion that we might have a gun problem.

It is conservative extremism that is bringing this country to a grinding, crushing halt. If you really consider yourself an honest person that truly wants to better your life and the lives of those around you, then you will stop and never again spout the bullshiat nonsense that "both sides are equally bad." Both sides can be bad, yes; one side in particular has gone head and shoulders above the rest in its efforts to divide, marginalize and terrorize. Quit lieing to yourself and others and admit the farking truth.

Did I not say clearly there is extremism on both sides? I did not QUANTIFY it. Yes, the right side has a disproportionate faction of loons.
There, happy?
Let me define it more clearly so you can untwist your knickers. IT IS EXTREMISM FROM EITHER END THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEMS.
Right, left, doesn't matter. They need to go. I am doing MY part to kick the right extremists in the nuts, I expect some cooperation from my liberal friends. Too much to ask that they clean their yard (however smaller it might be)?
I don't need to hold a mea culpa-fest. I know the problems, I have it clearly in sight, and I am trying to work towards a fix.
Are you? If not, why not?

It no cop-out. There is NOTHING convenient with having to go head-to-head with jackasses who ...


And we've already explained to you, who first complained about civility and has already resorted to cussing and all-caps typing, the left's extreme is weak and small enough to where the Democratic Party is in no danger of being overrun by it. You also failed, after repeated requests, to name these extremist liberals, outside your false-appearing generalizations that always seem to turn up whenever a conservative gets asked a straight question.

You are commenting in bad faith. I won't be responding to you any further.
 
gja
2013-01-18 01:38:01 PM  

mongbiohazard: gja: Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.


See, you SAY this, but the problem is that there are actually people who have been elected as representatives who reinforce this "stereotype".

I have always considered myself conservative too, and I was a staunch republican for around 20 years. I quit the party finally last year, because I realized that no matter how reasonable, non-racist, and non-blind-partisan I am the party which represented me is a totally different story. And that's the thing about representatives. They represent you.

So regardless of how earnestly you believe in your "don't lump me in with them" rant - and believe me I understand - it's still entirely reasonable to be lumped in with those hard-right loons because they control the narrative for the forseeable future.


I too abandoned the party for their lack of control and vision. They disgust me. Look for my posts, you can see for yourself how true that statement is.
No longer will I associate myself with their charter. They no longer represent what I believe in.

"they control the narrative for the forseeable future. "---We need to change that, I am doing MY part, FWIW.
 
2013-01-18 01:38:05 PM  

gja: those who cannot manage to be civil in their discourse when discussing matters


Yeah, conservatives are obviously good at that. Like the guy in the article who fired 2 people for disagreeing with him politically.
 
2013-01-18 01:38:48 PM  

Verrai: Dimensio: Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.

Civil or criminal liability for such a status would result in the cessation of all societal function.

That's not true. Many states forbid employment discrimination on the grounds of political affiliation. Utah just happens not to be one of them.


I think Dimensio (If I am counting layers correctly) means that civil or criminal liability for being an asshole would cause society to grind to a halt. If everyone's in jail, who's minding the store?
 
2013-01-18 01:39:29 PM  

Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

Thanks.


/It's different
//When we do it
///Well, it is


I'm pretty sure that Bob Gates got to keep his job, actually.
 
2013-01-18 01:39:35 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

You mean the same thing that happens every time the presidency changes hands?



Obviously.

Sweeping staff changes take place every time an election is held - whether president, governors, mayors, senators... ALL because of POLITICAL OPINIONS / AFFILIATION.

Sure, the guy may be an ass, but good luck with that prosecution / lawsuit.
 
2013-01-18 01:39:47 PM  

verbaltoxin: gja: ramblinwreck: Is disregard for context a mental disorder for conservatives?

No, it is a disorder in those with no ability to critically think, and those who lack perspective.

I am conservative, but I do not think anyone who has read some of my posts would liken me to the proverbial "wing-nut" or "herp-a-derp-righty".

Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.

Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides) and have decided that this is not the correct nor opportune time to give face-smacks all around and raise up to make our points and assert ourselves. We are patient and know we need to "pick our battles".
When we DO decide to make a ruckus the FIRST ones out the door will be those who decided the right side of the road wasn't far enough right and they felt the need to drive straight off into the ditch, then sit there whining "you aren't helping us".  We will not only leave them behind we just may fill the ditch in with cement so those fossils can at least be useful as future fuel to be used be later generations (if we are still burning stuff at that point).

The next to find themselves sitting on the curb for their hissy-fits will be the ultra-left who demanded too many entitlements and laws to protect them from themselves because they lack self-control and willpower. That crap is getting REALLY old with those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.

No enlightened human treats another with such disdain as to capriciously fire them from a job in this economy, knowing full well how hard this may make things for them. It's mean-spirited at best, evil at worst. Too many of us are just a paycheck away from dire financial straits. Such a callous disregard for each other only helps spread the hurt and deepen the wo ...


Note too that while he says we should stop generalizing and stereotyping he then engages in his own generalizing and stereotyping
 
2013-01-18 01:40:06 PM  
The guy is a racist, I can tell just by..."looking" at him.
 
2013-01-18 01:40:59 PM  
This guy is a tool. Id like to think that if I ever ran a business I would be smart enough to keep my religion and politics out of it. As long as their money was green and they paid on time I wouldnt give two shiats. We were having this problem with the bible thumper I work with she kept on asking us about what religion we were, what church we went to etc. Pretty much everyone got sick of it then she told us that we were "mocking" her and her religion. I kindly pointed out this is the workplace and she should keep her personal problems,politics and religion at the door and worry about her work more. Sometimes I still wish I worked with the wiccan guy. He was a theology major and took great delight in verbally flaying people like her.
 
2013-01-18 01:41:10 PM  

H31N0US: Good, now they can go get jobs working for someone who isn't an asshole about providing healthcare for his workers and sue this ass-clown for breaking the law netting a profit. .



Completed that for you.
 
2013-01-18 01:41:45 PM  

gja: Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.
...
those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.


So everything would be better if everyone just remembered their place? Aside from the cognitive dissonance, that's also a bit telling about your view of society.
 
2013-01-18 01:41:59 PM  

Latinwolf: verbaltoxin: gja: ramblinwreck: Is disregard for context a mental disorder for conservatives?

No, it is a disorder in those with no ability to critically think, and those who lack perspective.

I am conservative, but I do not think anyone who has read some of my posts would liken me to the proverbial "wing-nut" or "herp-a-derp-righty".

Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.

Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides) and have decided that this is not the correct nor opportune time to give face-smacks all around and raise up to make our points and assert ourselves. We are patient and know we need to "pick our battles".
When we DO decide to make a ruckus the FIRST ones out the door will be those who decided the right side of the road wasn't far enough right and they felt the need to drive straight off into the ditch, then sit there whining "you aren't helping us".  We will not only leave them behind we just may fill the ditch in with cement so those fossils can at least be useful as future fuel to be used be later generations (if we are still burning stuff at that point).

The next to find themselves sitting on the curb for their hissy-fits will be the ultra-left who demanded too many entitlements and laws to protect them from themselves because they lack self-control and willpower. That crap is getting REALLY old with those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.

No enlightened human treats another with such disdain as to capriciously fire them from a job in this economy, knowing full well how hard this may make things for them. It's mean-spirited at best, evil at worst. Too many of us are just a paycheck away from dire financial straits. Such a callous disregard for each other only helps spread the hurt and ...


Definitely noted. I'm done with his, "BE CIVIL YOU ASSHOLES!" schtick. Then he puts himself on a cross later, by saying, "I'm doing my part why aren't you libs?!" Because he's so brave for leaving a political party.
 
2013-01-18 01:42:47 PM  

gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1


0...as in never.

subby obviously can't read since is not the same employer.

you can't read since it is legal to do so in Utah.
 
2013-01-18 01:43:20 PM  
Are we SURE he didn't break the law?

Can't this be seen as coercing votes?

Or at least attempting to buy votes from the employees who want to stay?

I imagine a single mother supporting kids would rather pretend to be against Obama than lose her job unexpectedly. Sounds like extortion to effect elections to me!
 
2013-01-18 01:43:37 PM  

praxcelis: gja: Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.
...
those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.

So everything would be better if everyone just remembered their place? Aside from the cognitive dissonance, that's also a bit telling about your view of society.


that isn't remotely what he said, is it?
 
2013-01-18 01:43:49 PM  

Carth: Coastalgrl: madgonad: James F. Campbell: spentmiles: I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?"

You're going to have to get a lot better at writing coherent narratives before you can sell your fanfiction on Amazon, PN.

Pocket Ninja doesn't need an alt account to practice his art - and if he had one it surely isn't spentmiles. And yes, while spentmiles is trying to be entertaining, underneath it all he is still just a tool. I do like what he is doing now better than the last couple years of trolling, but you can't unring a bell. (or get off my favorites list)

You can sell fanfiction on amazon?

Yea, just change the names like the 50 shades of grey lady did.


That was fan fiction? So what was the original source?
 
2013-01-18 01:44:52 PM  
Is it just me, or are there a hell of a lot of people on the right who act like childish assholes?

Mmmm, yeah, about that.....

BuzzFeed's Michael Hastings has come out with some explosive allegations against Chicago Mayor (and former White House chief-of-staff) Rahm Emanuel. The reporter is claiming that the politician physically assaulted him during an interview, grabbing his arm and attempting to intimidate him "with a threat of physical violence."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/18/abusive-buzzfeed-reporter- c laims-rahm-emanuel-physically-assaulted-him-during-heated-interview/?u tm_medium=twitter&utm_source=story&utm_campaign=Share%20Buttons
 
2013-01-18 01:44:52 PM  

Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

Thanks.


/It's different
//When we do it
///Well, it is


Don't work for Government, do you? SOP is to ask for the resignation of everyone in a cabinet position (and in Directors and Commissioners positions in state governments) when a new President (or Governor) is elected. You accept those that you don't want and refuse those you wish to keep. But, and this is the more important point, those people are not being let go because of the political parties they belong to or support. But you knew that.
 
2013-01-18 01:45:25 PM  
Reminds me of a story my brother-in-law told us over Christmas. He and and his peers knew that if Obamacare went through that they'd have to do some layoffs. After SCOTUS affirmed, they got together and came up with actual numbers for each group - he had 2 layoffs to do before the end of year. The day after Obama won the election, two of his liberal employees showed up late and hungover from celebrating all night. He sent them home. The next day he fired them with cause. Problem solved, poetic justice served.

And just on a side note, our country has an ideal that people should not be discriminated against for things beyond their control, such as gender, skin color, and many would argue sexual orientation. Joining a political party is a choice. Supporting Obama is a choice. And choices should and do have consequences, despite what some self-entitled "me-first, screw everyone else" idiots out there think.
 
2013-01-18 01:45:31 PM  
While you may be able to sue for voter intimidation, how much will you really get? I don't see a whole lot of monetary dmgs for the amount of money you'll need to devote to prosecute.

Bringing up Politics and Religion at work is not the best idea. In that situation, they should have trusted their spidey-sense and looked for another job.
This Terry Lee must be a real winner.
 
2013-01-18 01:46:28 PM  

StrangeQ: Red_Fox: StrangeQ: WTF Indeed: Easiest Lawsuit Ever.

Not lawsuits, but easiest unemployment claim ever. Have fun with your increased premiums, redneck.

You have got to be wrong about that. That or life's so much more unfair in the USA than I ever imagined.

He posted online that he chose them because they supported Obama. That's GOT to be a lawsuit...it is discrimination based on political leanings.

He can fire them for whatever reason he wants. But unless it was for something truly justifiable (constantly being late for shifts, harassing management or other workers, creating an unsafe or unsanitary work environment, ect) they can claim unemployment afterwards. Since in this case it is clear he is just an ignorant, asshole redneck, there is no way he will be able to fight their unemployment claims. When his unemployment insurance providers learn that he is just firing people because he is an ignorant, partisan hack and thus causing them to shell out money, they could possibly decide to raise his rates. They wouldn't have to, but he seems like he's made himself into too good a target not to. So yeah, stupid redneck will hopefully be reaping exactly what he has sewn. Of course, then he'll probably blame that on "obongo" too, because of course, nothing is ever a conservative's fault.


They were contract employees.
 
2013-01-18 01:46:54 PM  

SnarfVader: OnlyM3: SnarfVader


I don't have my GED in law, but political affiliation is not a protected class. I do not believe the fired employees have a case (especially in Utah).

That said, the owner is an asshat and deserves a boycott of his business.

I'm sure it will be as effective as you impotent boycott of that chicken joint.

There are no Chik-Fil-A places where I live, so I guess my personal boycott was successful.


Don't tell him that. OnlyM3 is so angry and bitter he just might have an aneurysm if he hears that his heroes aren't winning the "culture war" everywhere.
 
2013-01-18 01:47:12 PM  
Victim: Your honor (sniff sniff) he threatened to fire me if I didn't vote how he wanted me to (sob). I can't afford to lose this job, but I know interfering with elections is illegal and I didn't want to go to jail so I refused. And he FIRED me!!!! (booo hoo hoo)

Yeah... a good lawyer could burn this dope good.
 
2013-01-18 01:47:46 PM  
Places like this need a daily upper decker installment. Volunteers should be going there daily, not buying anything and just heading to the bathroom with 3 days worth bagels ready to come out.
 
2013-01-18 01:48:50 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Almet: The fool! He's just allowing them to go on Obongo's indefinate unemployment and 0boingboingcare and 0bama-llama phones!

HELL-yeah! Just got the letters Tuesday: Since Obama extended the UI, got another 13 weeks extension at $412 per week, then ANOTHER new claim, automatically following that, at $205 per week for 26 weeks - plus another 67 weeks of extensions for that claim.

And Monday we were notified we could start hunting for a Section 8 apartment. We'll be paying 30% of our combined monthly "income" for it, the taxpayers picking up the rest.

THANKS, taxpayers!


glad to help, guess you need a new fark handle now
 
2013-01-18 01:48:58 PM  

gja: Did I not say clearly there is extremism on both sides? I did not QUANTIFY it. Yes, the right side has a disproportionate faction of loons.
There, happy?
Let me define it more clearly so you can untwist your knickers. IT IS EXTREMISM FROM EITHER END THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEMS.
Right, left, doesn't matter. They need to go. I am doing MY part to kick the right extremists in the nuts, I expect some cooperation from my liberal friends. Too much to ask that they clean their yard (however smaller it might be)?
I don't need to hold a mea culpa-fest. I know the problems, I have it clearly in sight, and I am trying to work towards a fix.
Are you? If not, why not?

It no cop-out. There is NOTHING convenient with having to go head-to-head with jackasses who cannot see past their religious scripts and ridiculous outdated dogma. It is farking horrible at times, but I am willing to do it because it's the RIGHT thing to do.

I never wrote "both side are equally bad", nor was that tone used in my post.
Learn to read or at least quote accurately.


Let me quote again the part that you seem to be having difficulty with:
"IT IS EXTREMISM FROM EITHER END THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEMS."

If you were truly trying to take an objective view of the current political climate in this country, you would have shortened that to "extremism...causes problems." If you were then to go on to pinpoint exactly what extremism is currently causing our problems, you would have said "extremism, on the right, is causing problems." But you didn't. Because you are still stubborning holding to the us vs. them sports team mentality that is so prevalent on the right.
 
2013-01-18 01:51:07 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: self-entitled "me-first, screw everyone else" idiots out there think.


you mean conservatives?
 
2013-01-18 01:51:29 PM  

lordjupiter: This guy's just admitting to what I know for a fact goes on behind the scenes a lot anyway.


^THIS^

/ The guy just sacrificed two of his employees jobs to his ego so he could AW his business and get free advertising.
// Obviously he will claim he is the most Personally Responsible Christian, evar.
/// Best thing to do would be ignore him. Oh, and nuke his business from orbit on Yelp!
 
2013-01-18 01:52:48 PM  

skullkrusher: praxcelis: gja: Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.
...
those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.

So everything would be better if everyone just remembered their place? Aside from the cognitive dissonance, that's also a bit telling about your view of society.

that isn't remotely what he said, is it?


This isn't going to be one of those threads where we take a commonly-used phrase like "station in life" and spend all afternoon arguing abscure usages of those words, rather than accepting the commonly-used context? Every time I hear that phrase used it is in the context of "knowing one's place". gja's comment was followed by "Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.", which indicates an awareness of that commonly-used context.

What do you think was meant?
 
2013-01-18 01:53:33 PM  

natas6.0: I think it's funny and fitting
I also think it's kinda rude
If you have no difference in opinion
then you'll never have a new idea.

That said, most 'bama voters I know just regurgitate the same pap someone else told 'em


Well, to be fair, most 'bama voters YOU know ARE pretty dumb.
 
2013-01-18 01:53:34 PM  
img832.imageshack.us ? soon ?
 
2013-01-18 01:54:09 PM  
arguing obscure usages...


/I even previewed it.
//Blame the cold meds.
 
2013-01-18 01:55:16 PM  

Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?


The were temporarily appointed to their jobs, just like Bush was, for terms that ended at the exact same time Bush's did. I don't believe that Obama actually "fired" any of them.
 
2013-01-18 01:57:08 PM  

SpectroBoy: Victim: Your honor (sniff sniff) he threatened to fire me if I didn't vote how he wanted me to (sob). I can't afford to lose this job, but I know interfering with elections is illegal and I didn't want to go to jail so I refused. And he FIRED me!!!! (booo hoo hoo)

Yeah... a good lawyer could burn this dope good.


The jury will all be Mormons from Utah, though.
 
2013-01-18 01:57:19 PM  

StrangeQ: gja: Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides)

See that? That, right there? That is the problem. The "both sides" argument is nothing but a convenient, bullshiat copout.

The vast majority of the hate, bile, vitriol and extremism in this country comes from the right. They are the cause of the biggest divides, and the ultimate source of the lack of progress towards anything meaningful.

Yes, there are extreme stances on the left. PETA. PETA is farking rediculous, but skinny chicks wearing salad leaves over their crotches demonstrates not even a fraction of the mental insanity it takes to completely lose your shiat at the suggestion that we might have a gun problem.

It is conservative extremism that is bringing this country to a grinding, crushing halt. If you really consider yourself an honest person that truly wants to better your life and the lives of those around you, then you will stop and never again spout the bullshiat nonsense that "both sides are equally bad." Both sides can be bad, yes; one side in particular has gone head and shoulders above the rest in its efforts to divide, marginalize and terrorize. Quit lieing to yourself and others and admit the farking truth.



This. And it has been solidly trending this way for years. The extreme elements have taken over the GOP and now represent the party in every way that matters. That is the core difference between the makeup of the "two sides" now, and the reason one side DOES go off the deep end more than the other.

And the more that happens, the more the relative "middle" gets shifted toward them out of some sense of compromise. Politically, it should work. But they're so farking cartoonishly stupid about it now they keep losing elections.

How dumb do you have to be to make RAPE excuses part of your narrative in an election year, just because you want to rally your base around another divisive topic (abortion)?
 
2013-01-18 01:59:27 PM  

praxcelis: skullkrusher: praxcelis: gja: Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.
...
those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.

So everything would be better if everyone just remembered their place? Aside from the cognitive dissonance, that's also a bit telling about your view of society.

that isn't remotely what he said, is it?

This isn't going to be one of those threads where we take a commonly-used phrase like "station in life" and spend all afternoon arguing abscure usages of those words, rather than accepting the commonly-used context? Every time I hear that phrase used it is in the context of "knowing one's place". gja's comment was followed by "Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.", which indicates an awareness of that commonly-used context.

What do you think was meant?


he is talking about living in one's means. Living according to one's position on the socioeconomic ladder. Nothing about "remembering one's place" aside from as it pertains to personal finances. "Remembering one's place" is far more loaded than "station in life" - it even has a connotation that one should show deference to his or her "betters".
I did not get anything of that sort from his post. Nor did I see the cognitive dissonance.
 
2013-01-18 01:59:31 PM  

pciszek: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

The were temporarily appointed to their jobs, just like Bush was, for terms that ended at the exact same time Bush's did. I don't believe that Obama actually "fired" any of them.


No, that is not how it works.
The cabinet members are not hired for a "term".
Got anything else? Hopefully something that isn't blatantly wrong and stupid.
 
2013-01-18 02:00:20 PM  
darkscout
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class

Race - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

Color - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

Religion - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

National origin - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964
Age (40 and over) - Federal: Age Discrimination in Employment
Act of 1967
Sex - Federal: Equal Pay Act of 1963 & Civil Rights Act of 1964

Familial status - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1968 Title VIII (Housing, cannot discriminate for having children, exception for senior housing)

Disability status - Federal: Vocational Rehabilitation and Other Rehabilitation Services of 1973 & Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990

Veteran status - Federal Vietnam Era Veterans Readjustment Assistance Act of 1974
Genetic information - Federal: Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act



THERE IT IS.

The basis for the lawsuit.

Voting for OBama is a genetic disorder.

Easy Money.
 
2013-01-18 02:00:23 PM  
I'm a liberal and I have to say 'Who Cares?'

I'm so glad this smoothie shop owner is pissed that everyone now has healthcare. Good, you lose, retaliate in whatever legal way you want. It doesn't make you right.

Sorry for the employees and I hope find better jobs.

/maybe I am just used to idiotic republican antics? I point out that some of the shiat they say is pure lies, then I move on. They are losing anyway.
 
2013-01-18 02:01:06 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: 3. He also said the people fired had performance issues.


Well, they do now. Surely you know how these things work?

People who get fired the same day their boss finds out they are gay/atheist/interracially married/whatever retroactively develop performance issues. Smarter bosses start finding fault with everything they do and fire them a week later.
 
2013-01-18 02:01:29 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: pciszek: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

The were temporarily appointed to their jobs, just like Bush was, for terms that ended at the exact same time Bush's did. I don't believe that Obama actually "fired" any of them.

No, that is not how it works.
The cabinet members are not hired for a "term".
Got anything else? Hopefully something that isn't blatantly wrong and stupid.


ya. those people are not protected by federal labor/employment laws.  they serve at the pleasure of the president.
 
2013-01-18 02:01:47 PM  
It seems a lot of Utah small business owners are totalitarian pricks.
 
2013-01-18 02:02:43 PM  
The amount of "This guys is a dick - there MUST be a way to sue him!" in this thread gives me a sad.


Sorry, but your feelings are not lawsuit worthy, snowflakes.


/Yes, the guys is a first-class dick..but a legal dick
 
2013-01-18 02:03:34 PM  

MyPenIsHuge: stirfrybry: bulldg4life: From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.

LOL@racecard

This, why do people continue to throw down the term racist for every single statement they don't agree with?



Because any intelligent person can see it was a racist remark.
 
2013-01-18 02:03:39 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: pciszek: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

The were temporarily appointed to their jobs, just like Bush was, for terms that ended at the exact same time Bush's did. I don't believe that Obama actually "fired" any of them.

No, that is not how it works.
The cabinet members are not hired for a "term".
Got anything else? Hopefully something that isn't blatantly wrong and stupid.



What's blatantly wrong and stupid is pretending that a Presidential Election winner is somehow violating discrimination laws when his winning team takes over. It's kind of the POINT of politics and elections.

Jesus farking christ.
 
2013-01-18 02:03:54 PM  

pciszek: Verrai: Dimensio: Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.

Civil or criminal liability for such a status would result in the cessation of all societal function.

That's not true. Many states forbid employment discrimination on the grounds of political affiliation. Utah just happens not to be one of them.

I think Dimensio (If I am counting layers correctly) means that civil or criminal liability for being an asshole would cause society to grind to a halt. If everyone's in jail, who's minding the store?


No shiat, it would shut down FARK as well
 
2013-01-18 02:04:34 PM  
I'm curious...how does the first shop owner know which of his customers are liberal, so he can charge them more?

They drive up in Volvos, wearing hemp?

Or does he just assume EVERYONE buying a veggie smoothie is a lib? which is kind of what I'd figure...
 
2013-01-18 02:05:23 PM  

Alebak: It was obvious something like this was going to happen.

Got one of those storage center places near here, and the sign out front has said "SCREWED NOW" ever since Obama got re-elected. Choosing a side with your business during the election season is one thing, but to keep it up for the foreseeable future just pushes people away from your business. I mean Texas might be conservative central, but wouldnt this shtick get old after a while?


There's a pawn shop in the small town that I used to live in. During the 2004 election period the large sign out front constantly had anti Hillary and anti liberal messages. There were thing like how Hillary should shut up and go back to the kitchen and how ebil liberals were in general. He did this in a small town close to Chicago. I can only imagine that his business got even slower than it was.
 
2013-01-18 02:05:59 PM  

bulldg4life: From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.


Oh, I bet he can't. And I bet, come Monday, he's going to realize that those were the only two workers that didn't spend half their day around the water cooler gossiping about what color hair they'd have next week. People who define themselves as conservative or Republican tend to be practically stereotypes of white trash. So this idiot's in for a big surprise...
 
2013-01-18 02:06:30 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't think Terry Lee fired anyone because of their politics.  He trolled the comments, the newspaper bit, and he kept trolling.

1. A digital forensics firm in Cedar City, UT, had more than 50 employees? I don't think so, Tim.

2. He said his business has been declining for two years.  There's a good reason to fire people.

3. He also said the people fired had performance issues.


And yet he bragged about firing people because of their politics.
 
2013-01-18 02:07:06 PM  

Ed Grubermann: Odd. Most of the people I know, and this could be biased due to me having more liberal friends than conservative friends, actually want to work. They want to be productive.


Sure, a lot of people want to accomplish something, but that is not the same thing as wanting to put in 40 hours a week working for someone else. Usually the exact opposite, as a matter of fact.

Sure, some people do get to spend their workweek making the blind to see and the lame to walk, pulling children out of burning buildings, or photographing nekkid people for a prestigious magazine. For the rest of us though--anyone who cannot think of something they would rather be doing than someone else's shiatwork has no soul.
 
2013-01-18 02:07:09 PM  
They will probably be out of business in a week like Chick Fil-a
 
gja
2013-01-18 02:09:57 PM  

Joe Blowme: pciszek: Verrai: Dimensio: Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.

Civil or criminal liability for such a status would result in the cessation of all societal function.

That's not true. Many states forbid employment discrimination on the grounds of political affiliation. Utah just happens not to be one of them.

I think Dimensio (If I am counting layers correctly) means that civil or criminal liability for being an asshole would cause society to grind to a halt. If everyone's in jail, who's minding the store?

No shiat, it would shut down FARK as well


Wall Street would be boarded up for sure.
 
2013-01-18 02:13:20 PM  
Once upon a time in Utah an idiot did something only an idiot would do for idiotic reasons. The end.

Related: The theme from Big Love just started playing on Pandora. Bizarre timing.
 
2013-01-18 02:14:07 PM  

Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

Thanks.


/It's different
//When we do it
///Well, it is


Every new President does that when they take office. You're trying to claim it should have been different when Obama took office.
 
2013-01-18 02:15:16 PM  

spidermilk: I'm a liberal and I have to say 'Who Cares?'

I'm so glad this smoothie shop owner is pissed that everyone now has healthcare. Good, you lose, retaliate in whatever legal way you want. It doesn't make you right.

Sorry for the employees and I hope find better jobs.

/maybe I am just used to idiotic republican antics? I point out that some of the shiat they say is pure lies, then I move on. They are losing anyway.


Sounds more like you are just use to everyone else paying your way in life.
 
2013-01-18 02:16:07 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: spentmiles: I grew up in a vegan household and my mom taught me to make every type of organic burrito under the sun. When I went to college in Richmond, Virgina, I noticed a lot of hippies milling around the campus, smoking Drum and being upper middle class white kids. I saw an opportunity to make some money, so I set-up a burrito cart and sold a wrap that cost me less than a dollar to make for ten bucks. They sold like crazy, lines out the ass, and I made a ton of money.

It cracked me up too because I had this costume I'd dress up in - a tie-dye shirt, corduroy pants with some colorful shiat sewn on the sides, and a clip on feather I'd hang off my planter's hat. I looked like a Johnny shiats Himself, but the hippie kids treated me like Jerry Garcia's left nut. I was getting start to finish blow-jobs from the chicks while the dudes made themselves cool by giving me kind bud, which I sold back to them! I loved the BJs, but weed and other tranquilizers aren't interesting to me because I've got motivation and drive to do productive shiat while I'm awake.

Anyway, I'm in line at the bank one Friday with a stuffed envelope of roughly three grand in bills. I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?" She doesn't even recognize me. She blows me off like fly on the dick she's sucking. Then when I whipped out all the cash, she gave me this dirty look, like it was a bad thing to have that much money. In the meantime, she was probably withdrawing a $20 of allowance. I didn't care - I didn't hold it against her. What's it to me?

The next week, I'm back in my hippie costume, slanging burritos, and she's all doe-eyed at me, wanting to know if I wanted to come smoke with her after the lunch rush. We ended up back at her nice ass apartment, making out on the couch, my hands all over those burrito fed ...


www.oceanpeakoutfitters.com
 
2013-01-18 02:16:39 PM  

skullkrusher: praxcelis: skullkrusher: praxcelis: gja: Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.
...
those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.

So everything would be better if everyone just remembered their place? Aside from the cognitive dissonance, that's also a bit telling about your view of society.

that isn't remotely what he said, is it?

This isn't going to be one of those threads where we take a commonly-used phrase like "station in life" and spend all afternoon arguing abscure usages of those words, rather than accepting the commonly-used context? Every time I hear that phrase used it is in the context of "knowing one's place". gja's comment was followed by "Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.", which indicates an awareness of that commonly-used context.

What do you think was meant?

he is talking about living in one's means. Living according to one's position on the socioeconomic ladder. Nothing about "remembering one's place" aside from as it pertains to personal finances. "Remembering one's place" is far more loaded than "station in life" - it even has a connotation that one should show deference to his or her "betters".
I did not get anything of that sort from his post. Nor did I see the cognitive dissonance.


I'm willing to give on the definition--it's something I've heard in conversation all-too-often associated with that more-loaded connotation, but that may just be a function of the more conservative-leaning (read: scary) sorts I have in my friends-and-family list. :P We'll just have to disagree on whose context-senses are going off more.

The cognitive dissonance, however, was that hint in the air of the old "moochers and leeches" argument that does reek of over-generalization, in a post he began with "let's not generalize". I found that an interesting dichotomy that deserved to be poked at.
 
2013-01-18 02:19:03 PM  

Amos Quito: Pants full of macaroni!!: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

You mean the same thing that happens every time the presidency changes hands?


Obviously.

Sweeping staff changes take place every time an election is held - whether president, governors, mayors, senators... ALL because of POLITICAL OPINIONS / AFFILIATION.

Sure, the guy may be an ass, but good luck with that prosecution / lawsuit.


For a good comparison you'd have to show that the company had a previous owner and that the new owner was the one that fired those workers.
 
2013-01-18 02:21:30 PM  

Latinwolf: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

Thanks.


/It's different
//When we do it
///Well, it is

Every new President does that when they take office. You're trying to claim it should have been different when Obama took office.



Not at all. It was just to bring the point home to the Obama Faithful, Deacon Latinwolf.

Obviously any new president doesn't want a bunch of clowns who, by nature of their POLITICAL AFFILIATION may well be working AGAINST his perceived interests as President.

Why should it be any different for a private employer?
 
2013-01-18 02:24:50 PM  

Latinwolf: Amos Quito: Pants full of macaroni!!: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

You mean the same thing that happens every time the presidency changes hands?


Obviously.

Sweeping staff changes take place every time an election is held - whether president, governors, mayors, senators... ALL because of POLITICAL OPINIONS / AFFILIATION.

Sure, the guy may be an ass, but good luck with that prosecution / lawsuit.

For a good comparison you'd have to show that the company had a previous owner and that the new owner was the one that fired those workers.



No, the employer simply has to believe that the employee does (or may) work to the detriment of the company.

Example: If you owned a slaughterhouse, would you feel comfortable with hardcore PETA activist on your payroll?
 
gja
2013-01-18 02:27:54 PM  

skullkrusher: praxcelis: skullkrusher: praxcelis: gja: Please stop generalizing and stereotyping. It is not very intelligent nor is it very reasonable or productive.
...
those of us who have learned to live and behave within the appropriate boundaries and limits of our lifestyle and station in life. Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.

So everything would be better if everyone just remembered their place? Aside from the cognitive dissonance, that's also a bit telling about your view of society.

that isn't remotely what he said, is it?

This isn't going to be one of those threads where we take a commonly-used phrase like "station in life" and spend all afternoon arguing abscure usages of those words, rather than accepting the commonly-used context? Every time I hear that phrase used it is in the context of "knowing one's place". gja's comment was followed by "Not everyone gets a solid gold shiatter to sit on, get over it.", which indicates an awareness of that commonly-used context.

What do you think was meant?

he is talking about living in one's means. Living according to one's position on the socioeconomic ladder. Nothing about "remembering one's place" aside from as it pertains to personal finances. "Remembering one's place" is far more loaded than "station in life" - it even has a connotation that one should show deference to his or her "betters".
I did not get anything of that sort from his post. Nor did I see the cognitive dissonance.


Leave it, man. They do not see it.

I would like a lot of cool toys, but I am not willing to work asinine hours to afford them.
Neither am I about to spend money via credit for things I cannot afford.
Doesn't drepress me, and I don't sit whining about it.
And really, in the scheme of things, it isn't bumming me out, so big deal, right?
I'm stuck in middle class. So what? I see my bosses have more than me, should I get all pissy about it? What the hell for?
I could get it too, if I was willing to slave and never take time off.
Maybe I could do with a private jet like the guy who founded this place. Gee, all I need to do is bet everything I own, remortgage my house, all my savings, all my credit and hope it works out. Just like HE did. Not gonna happen sparky, I don't have his brass balls. I don't feel like being homeless because I missed a detail in my business plan, and then never see my kid because my ex would lawyer-up and screw me over, no thanks.

So, I live within my means, and know I can change that if it really drives me and I feel like it. But it's not a big enough deal in my life, so I am good to go as I am.
If you REALLY have a burning desire, go for it. It could happen, but always know there is a reason the call it the "risk/reward" equation.
Risk, is inherent.

And as far as "station in life" I don't try to hang out at the local country club for a round when I know I have little to nothing in common with the members, and it's no big dealio. Public greens are good enough for me, and most of my buds are there anyway.
 
gja
2013-01-18 02:29:50 PM  

praxcelis: The cognitive dissonance, however, was that hint in the air of the old "moochers and leeches" argument that does reek of over-generalization, in a post he began with "let's not generalize". I found that an interesting dichotomy that deserved to be poked at.


That's likely my "NY" poking through. Some get that, some don't. Sorry if I am sometimes curt or abrasive.
 
gja
2013-01-18 02:31:39 PM  

jackiepaper: they serve at the pleasure of the president


Clinton's back?
 
2013-01-18 02:32:04 PM  

praxcelis: I'm willing to give on the definition--it's something I've heard in conversation all-too-often associated with that more-loaded connotation, but that may just be a function of the more conservative-leaning (read: scary) sorts I have in my friends-and-family list. :P We'll just have to disagree on whose context-senses are going off more.

The cognitive dissonance, however, was that hint in the air of the old "moochers and leeches" argument that does reek of over-generalization, in a post he began with "let's not generalize". I found that an interesting dichotomy that deserved to be poked at.


more stereotyping is what gives you that "hint". ;)
This has nothing to do with mooching or leeching
Many, many people do live beyond their means.

praxcelis


Smartest
Funniest

2013-01-18 02:16:39 PM
(favorite: Reasonable and intelligent)

I got you greened for a reason so Imma give you the benefit of the doubt. Dude didn't say anything bad though
 
2013-01-18 02:33:07 PM  

gja: praxcelis: The cognitive dissonance, however, was that hint in the air of the old "moochers and leeches" argument that does reek of over-generalization, in a post he began with "let's not generalize". I found that an interesting dichotomy that deserved to be poked at.

That's likely my "NY" poking through. Some get that, some don't. Sorry if I am sometimes curt or abrasive.


ooh, I didn't know I was white knighting a fellow New Yorker. Tell me, are you an attractive single female living downstate who has a time machine that I might use to sweep you off your feet before I got married?
 
2013-01-18 02:33:59 PM  

StrangeQ: gja: Many conservatives (myself included) are tired of the extremism (from BOTH sides)

See that? That, right there? That is the problem. The "both sides" argument is nothing but a convenient, bullshiat copout.

The vast majority of the hate, bile, vitriol and extremism in this country comes from the right. They are the cause of the biggest divides, and the ultimate source of the lack of progress towards anything meaningful.

Yes, there are extreme stances on the left. PETA. PETA is farking rediculous, but skinny chicks wearing salad leaves over their crotches demonstrates not even a fraction of the mental insanity it takes to completely lose your shiat at the suggestion that we might have a gun problem.

It is conservative extremism that is bringing this country to a grinding, crushing halt. If you really consider yourself an honest person that truly wants to better your life and the lives of those around you, then you will stop and never again spout the bullshiat nonsense that "both sides are equally bad." Both sides can be bad, yes; one side in particular has gone head and shoulders above the rest in its efforts to divide, marginalize and terrorize. Quit lieing to yourself and others and admit the farking truth.


SO MUCH THIS

You have been favorited.
 
2013-01-18 02:37:23 PM  

Amos Quito: No, the employer simply has to believe that the employee does (or may) work to the detriment of the company.

Example: If you owned a slaughterhouse, would you feel comfortable with hardcore PETA activist on your payroll?


How you vote is none of your employer's business. How you behave is.
 
2013-01-18 02:38:31 PM  

gja: "The left", in general is fine. Most liberals have not gone off the deep end, the whackos have. They are the ones I refer to, they exist in enough numbers to be disruptive. You know, I know it, every knows it.


www.davejenkins.com
 
2013-01-18 02:38:33 PM  

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


You don't necessarily have to break the law in order to be sued.

themoreyouknow.jpg
 
2013-01-18 02:39:47 PM  
This whole story smells like lamestreamMSM bullshiat to me...everyone knows that liberals don't have jobs.
 
2013-01-18 02:41:19 PM  

gja: verbaltoxin: Serious question: what's this "extremism" on the left moderate conservatives like you are afraid of? Because honestly the left in this country isn't that left. The Green Party hardly counts as an "extreme" when their candidate gets less than 1% of the popular vote.

STOP, just STOP. We are not 'afraid', we dislike extremism (from either side).
Stop misquoting and/or projecting.

To answer your query, those who think it is their RIGHT to have things handed to them without having to work for it (via entitlement programs and such), those who feel the need to have legislation enacted every time something slights them in any minor way, those who cannot manage to be civil in their discourse when discussing matters (I have found this to be FAR more frequent a trait in far-left than conservatives).
Those who scream at me when I wish them a "Merry Christmas" because it "infringes on their rights. FFS people, take a pill!
So, basically, radical extremists.

"The left", in general is fine. Most liberals have not gone off the deep end, the whackos have. They are the ones I refer to, they exist in enough numbers to be disruptive. You know, I know it, every knows it. Just like the right "wing-nuts". They need to learn this clump we are spinning on is finite and we need to coexist or perish.


You are worked up over an enemy your ilk have imagined.

The "gimme gimmes" aren't getting a lavish lifestyle on government dollar. People who milk the system make up SO LITTLE of the whole welfare receiving population that it is cheaper to just pay them than investigate.

Think about what that means. It means you are wrong. It means that this vast conspiracy of takers just doesn't exist.
 
2013-01-18 02:42:42 PM  

pciszek: "This clump we are spinning on is finite" is in fact the major point that the extremist left tree-hugging greenies have been trying to make.


finite is not the same as effectively unbound.
Iron as an example. We have a finite amount of Fe on the planet, but the total easily accessible amount is INSANELY more than we could ever use, EVER. Toss in recycling which is cheap and easy and we have an effectively infinite amount of Fe.

Energy? Thorium/Uranium/Breeder reactors and solar; we effectively have an infinite supply of energy.
We have chosen to not build massive numbers of fission plants. Price (including externalities) is a bit too high. We have chosen to use fossil fuels until their Price becomes a bit higher.
But we will never run out of energy.

Finite, but effectively unbound.

/anyone who tells you otherwise will continue to be as wrong as everyone who has preached the same story since the dawn of time
 
2013-01-18 02:42:46 PM  

Chummer45: Is it just me, or are there a hell of a lot of people on the right who act like childish assholes?


There's a lot of derp on the far left as well. If you go far enough, the two extremes start looking like each other..
 
2013-01-18 02:43:38 PM  

gja: verbaltoxin: Serious question: what's this "extremism" on the left moderate conservatives like you are afraid of? Because honestly the left in this country isn't that left. The Green Party hardly counts as an "extreme" when their candidate gets less than 1% of the popular vote.

STOP, just STOP. We are not 'afraid', we dislike extremism (from either side).
Stop misquoting and/or projecting.

To answer your query, those who think it is their RIGHT to have things handed to them without having to work for it (via entitlement programs and such), those who feel the need to have legislation enacted every time something slights them in any minor way, those who cannot manage to be civil in their discourse when discussing matters (I have found this to be FAR more frequent a trait in far-left than conservatives).
Those who scream at me when I wish them a "Merry Christmas" because it "infringes on their rights. FFS people, take a pill!
So, basically, radical extremists.

"The left", in general is fine. Most liberals have not gone off the deep end, the whackos have. They are the ones I refer to, they exist in enough numbers to be disruptive. You know, I know it, every knows it. Just like the right "wing-nuts". They need to learn this clump we are spinning on is finite and we need to coexist or perish.


Also, nobody tells you Merry Christmas infringes on anyone's rights. This is another right wing imagined enemy. Being wished "Happy Holidays" does not mean you can't say Merry Christmas. Frankly, I didn't even catch this one on my first read-through of your post. If you think this is true, you are seriously brainwashed. I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration; if you think Christmas is under any such attack, you are a brainwashed fool.
 
gja
2013-01-18 02:45:27 PM  

skullkrusher: gja: praxcelis: The cognitive dissonance, however, was that hint in the air of the old "moochers and leeches" argument that does reek of over-generalization, in a post he began with "let's not generalize". I found that an interesting dichotomy that deserved to be poked at.

That's likely my "NY" poking through. Some get that, some don't. Sorry if I am sometimes curt or abrasive.

ooh, I didn't know I was white knighting a fellow New Yorker. Tell me, are you an attractive single female living downstate who has a time machine that I might use to sweep you off your feet before I got married?


Uhhh, sorry dude. I am a divorced 51 y.o. guy who put his time in on Wall ST and knew enough to get outta the rain when the rain started to include people jumping outta windows because their portfolios tanked.
 
2013-01-18 02:46:02 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Been looking through his FB, I really liked this one:
[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 403x403]


You DO realize that conservative women have more abortions than liberals, right?
 
2013-01-18 02:46:40 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Chummer45: Is it just me, or are there a hell of a lot of people on the right who act like childish assholes?

There's a lot of derp on the far left as well. If you go far enough, the two extremes start looking like each other..


This is especially true of the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street types. You strip the racism out of the Tea Party and they are difficult to tell apart.
 
2013-01-18 02:47:55 PM  

pciszek: The jury will all be Mormons from Utah, though.


Dang. I didn't think of that.

Guess that's why I'm not a lawyer.
 
2013-01-18 02:48:48 PM  

gja: skullkrusher: gja: praxcelis: The cognitive dissonance, however, was that hint in the air of the old "moochers and leeches" argument that does reek of over-generalization, in a post he began with "let's not generalize". I found that an interesting dichotomy that deserved to be poked at.

That's likely my "NY" poking through. Some get that, some don't. Sorry if I am sometimes curt or abrasive.

ooh, I didn't know I was white knighting a fellow New Yorker. Tell me, are you an attractive single female living downstate who has a time machine that I might use to sweep you off your feet before I got married?

Uhhh, sorry dude. I am a divorced 51 y.o. guy who put his time in on Wall ST and knew enough to get outta the rain when the rain started to include people jumping outta windows because their portfolios tanked.


oh no, that won't do at all.
 
2013-01-18 02:50:42 PM  

Heraclitus: Maybe they can claim being liberal is a disability...


www.mayorsandcities.com

"Liberal" is a 100% disability condition, isn't it?


// I want my free Obongophone!
// Somebody's gotta pay me for these 10 babies!
 
gja
2013-01-18 02:51:52 PM  

LavenderWolf: Also, nobody tells you Merry Christmas infringes on anyone's rights. This is another right wing imagined enemy. Being wished "Happy Holidays" does not mean you can't say Merry Christmas. Frankly, I didn't even catch this one on my first read-through of your post. If you think this is true, you are seriously brainwashed. I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration; if you think Christmas is under any such attack, you are a brainwashed fool.


I had a woman in NYC fairly well shrill at me for saying that. Right outside Saks windows this past season. Others looked at her like "WTF?".
For myself I was to shocked to respond as I had my daughter in tow. I was mortified. First time it has ever happened to me, and I am a lifer-NYer.

I know christmas isn't under attack, but civility sure is these days.
 
2013-01-18 02:52:17 PM  

Latinwolf: Carth: Coastalgrl: madgonad: James F. Campbell: spentmiles: I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?"

You're going to have to get a lot better at writing coherent narratives before you can sell your fanfiction on Amazon, PN.

Pocket Ninja doesn't need an alt account to practice his art - and if he had one it surely isn't spentmiles. And yes, while spentmiles is trying to be entertaining, underneath it all he is still just a tool. I do like what he is doing now better than the last couple years of trolling, but you can't unring a bell. (or get off my favorites list)

You can sell fanfiction on amazon?

Yea, just change the names like the 50 shades of grey lady did.

That was fan fiction? So what was the original source?


Twilight.
 
2013-01-18 02:55:36 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Chummer45: Is it just me, or are there a hell of a lot of people on the right who act like childish assholes?

There's a lot of derp on the far left as well. If you go far enough, the two extremes start looking like each other..


And again, when you really start to look at them, you will start to realize that one of those extremes is much larger, much more prone to violent, explosive episodes, much more likely to use hyperbolic rhetoric and outright lies and poses a far greater threat to the future peace, prosperity and general cohesion of this country. I'll leave it to you to figure out which one that is.
 
2013-01-18 02:55:58 PM  

gja: LavenderWolf: Also, nobody tells you Merry Christmas infringes on anyone's rights. This is another right wing imagined enemy. Being wished "Happy Holidays" does not mean you can't say Merry Christmas. Frankly, I didn't even catch this one on my first read-through of your post. If you think this is true, you are seriously brainwashed. I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration; if you think Christmas is under any such attack, you are a brainwashed fool.

I had a woman in NYC fairly well shrill at me for saying that. Right outside Saks windows this past season. Others looked at her like "WTF?".
For myself I was to shocked to respond as I had my daughter in tow. I was mortified. First time it has ever happened to me, and I am a lifer-NYer.

I know christmas isn't under attack, but civility sure is these days.


Then why post bullshiat claiming it is?

One crazy biatch says something to you and this is a big conspiracy? The fact that in one of the most liberal places in the US she was looked at with scorn by onlookers, that wasn't a clue to you that this is not a widespread issue?
 
2013-01-18 02:57:16 PM  

gja: LavenderWolf: Also, nobody tells you Merry Christmas infringes on anyone's rights. This is another right wing imagined enemy. Being wished "Happy Holidays" does not mean you can't say Merry Christmas. Frankly, I didn't even catch this one on my first read-through of your post. If you think this is true, you are seriously brainwashed. I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration; if you think Christmas is under any such attack, you are a brainwashed fool.

I had a woman in NYC fairly well shrill at me for saying that. Right outside Saks windows this past season. Others looked at her like "WTF?".
For myself I was to shocked to respond as I had my daughter in tow. I was mortified. First time it has ever happened to me, and I am a lifer-NYer.

I know christmas isn't under attack, but civility sure is these days.


Also, I believe that happened about as much as I believe the girl who carved a backwards B in her face.
 
2013-01-18 02:59:17 PM  

StrangeQ: Forbidden Doughnut: Chummer45: Is it just me, or are there a hell of a lot of people on the right who act like childish assholes?

There's a lot of derp on the far left as well. If you go far enough, the two extremes start looking like each other..

And again, when you really start to look at them, you will start to realize that one of those extremes is much larger, much more prone to violent, explosive episodes, much more likely to use hyperbolic rhetoric and outright lies and poses a far greater threat to the future peace, prosperity and general cohesion of this country. I'll leave it to you to figure out which one that is.


I'm gonna go with the one advocating "second amendment solutions" and seeking to curtail freedom of speech to protect their glorious freedom to bear arms from an enemy that has clearly NOT made any attempt to stop them.
 
2013-01-18 02:59:36 PM  
I'll have the large Health Berry Blaster with two extra scoops of protein powder please.

Are you liberal or conservative?

Well that's a bit difficult to answer since those words have been mutated beyond any actual meaning but I guess by the modern American definition standard I would say very liberal, I think it is a discrace that we call ourselves a civlized nation and don't provide basic health care for our citizens.

In that case here's your smoothie that will be eighteen dollars.

Thank you.

*takes drink and begins walking out without paying, says over shoulder*

Now, fiscally I'm the most conservative guy you'll ever meet.

*releases flatus and leaves*
 
2013-01-18 03:01:25 PM  
Love it. Lot of douches in Utah lately. Must smell like vinegar
 
gja
2013-01-18 03:01:34 PM  

LavenderWolf: gja: LavenderWolf: Also, nobody tells you Merry Christmas infringes on anyone's rights. This is another right wing imagined enemy. Being wished "Happy Holidays" does not mean you can't say Merry Christmas. Frankly, I didn't even catch this one on my first read-through of your post. If you think this is true, you are seriously brainwashed. I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration; if you think Christmas is under any such attack, you are a brainwashed fool.

I had a woman in NYC fairly well shrill at me for saying that. Right outside Saks windows this past season. Others looked at her like "WTF?".
For myself I was to shocked to respond as I had my daughter in tow. I was mortified. First time it has ever happened to me, and I am a lifer-NYer.

I know christmas isn't under attack, but civility sure is these days.

Also, I believe that happened about as much as I believe the girl who carved a backwards B in her face.


LOL, believe what you wish, what makes you happy and gives comfort. I can also relate to you many times I have gone to open the door for some woman exiting a cab and the disdainful and distrusting look like she thinks I want a tip when all I am doing is extending my hand to help her up from the seat (because I was raised that way).
 
2013-01-18 03:02:17 PM  
I dunno....from my moderate blue side perspective, any offer of an olive branch from the other side, and a willingness to civilly discuss differences to try and find common ground is a good start.

And no common ground is achieved by being a farking douchebag to the person offering the olive branch. Just because someone is willing to discuss differences between sides, it doesn't automatically mean they're saying "Oh, my god, how could I have been so wrong, and not see how right your side has always been in every single way???".

You don't win anyone over by shiatting all over them after they've decided to show the slightest opening. Have a little respect for whomever it is you're debating, and, who knows? You *might* just get them to see your point.

Keep the lines of communication open, gja. You're at least more open-minded than these other shiat-slinging assholes who claim to be "liberal".
 
2013-01-18 03:05:38 PM  

verbaltoxin: The left in the United States celebrates a victory when they stop a beaver dam from being drained and graded over. That's how low the bar has fallen for the left here. So for people crowing about "DEM LIBZ!!" you f*cking won, alright? You won 30 years ago. This is the price you pay for it. You get arm wrestling matches over the debt ceiling, fiscal cliff scares and crisis after crisis bringing governing to a halt. F*cking own it. It's yours. Pay up.


You have to understand that being the "victim" or "the oppressed minority" is fundamental to the right-wind mythology. For a start, the very word "conservative" comes from the idea that the past was better than the present, and the future is likely to be worse, so they tend to see history as a downward slide into debauchery, which in turn implies that they're on the losing side but fighting heroically to turn things around. But you also see it in their tendency to lump everything they don't agree with into a single monolithic group. That's why they imagine that Islamic fundamentalists and atheists are one the same, for example, or at least working together. How many times have your heard conservatives claim that liberals attack Christianity exclusively and give Islam a free pass? You also see this with the whole socialism = communism = fascism thing as well. Or conflating democracy with capitalism. On some basic level, everything that isn't "us" is "them," and no real effort is made to see how two different "thems" aren't really the same at all. But when you think that way, then your group IS a minority on some scale.

A third sign of it is how bitter they get about "special rights" for minorities such as heterosexuals, "affirmative action" and "reverse discrimination" and "men's rights." Many of them genuinely seem to think that non-whites, non-heterosexuals, and women want, or even already have, some special status ABOVE them.

And pundits like Limbaugh and conservative outlets like Fox News both feed on this and perpetuate it by pushing stories which cast conservatives as an oppressed minority. It really doesn't matter how slanted or even factually incorrect the stories are, the kind of people who watch Fox News and listen to Limbaugh just eat it up.
 
2013-01-18 03:05:56 PM  

brap: I'll have the large Health Berry Blaster with two extra scoops of protein powder please.

Are you liberal or conservative?

Well that's a bit difficult to answer since those words have been mutated beyond any actual meaning but I guess by the modern American definition standard I would say very liberal, I think it is a discrace that we call ourselves a civlized nation and don't provide basic health care for our citizens.

In that case here's your smoothie that will be eighteen dollars.

Thank you.

*takes drink and begins walking out without paying, says over shoulder*

Now, fiscally I'm the most conservative guy you'll ever meet.

*releases flatus and leaves*


LOL typical.... stealing and not batting an eye. Im guessing public schools but not past the 4th grade as you think others should pay for your shiat or just give it to you at the expense of others.
 
2013-01-18 03:08:01 PM  

Joe Blowme: brap: I'll have the large Health Berry Blaster with two extra scoops of protein powder please.

Are you liberal or conservative?

Well that's a bit difficult to answer since those words have been mutated beyond any actual meaning but I guess by the modern American definition standard I would say very liberal, I think it is a discrace that we call ourselves a civlized nation and don't provide basic health care for our citizens.

In that case here's your smoothie that will be eighteen dollars.

Thank you.

*takes drink and begins walking out without paying, says over shoulder*

Now, fiscally I'm the most conservative guy you'll ever meet.

*releases flatus and leaves*

LOL typical.... stealing and not batting an eye. Im guessing public schools but not past the 4th grade as you think others should pay for your shiat or just give it to you at the expense of others.


Vital information for you.
 
2013-01-18 03:09:09 PM  

theorellior: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: THANKS, taxpayers!

As a fellow American citizen, I would prefer that your basic human needs were supplied for rather than you getting shoved out on the street to fend for yourself. However, given your posting record, this does indicate you don't have the proof of your convictions and would prefer to be a "leech" rather than be "bootstrappy". So noted.


LOL! You sound bitter and selfish.

Actually, I would much rather be working. I, in fact, went on an interview yesterday. That's a lot harder than it sounds, because I normally don't have quick access to a shower and the monkey suit. One of the agencies (none of whom know I'm living in a camper shell) called at 9:30am and said they had an "out of the blue" rush job, and could they set up an 11am for me. I deferred to Noon and then drove like a maniac to 24 Hr Fitness, showered, shaved, then drove like a maniac to the Public Storage facility where all our stuff (including my suits, ties and dress shirts) are. Got changed in 7 minutes then drove 25 miles on the 5, 22, 405 and 710 freeways in 20 minutes to arrive 3 minutes late. Pretty good interview, and the job will last for 6 to 8 weeks at $20 per hour (they would be paying the agency maybe $40 per hour. That's annualized at $83K. A few years ago that job would have been at the $120K-$130K level.

It's a Corporate Controller slot. The current Controller gave one week's notice. Reading between the lines during the interview I think the company is "on the ropes" and the Controller (who would know) is getting out while the getting is good.

Still, hope I get it. There were 3 other people cooling their heels in the lobby, and someone else arrived just as I was leaving. I was the only old fat white guy. The rest were various combos of Black, Hispanic, Asian, young, clotheshorse (i.e.: all packaging little content). Even some of the people at the agencies tell me that I'm at a disadvantage due to age, incorrect packaging, and ethnic profile. And with 6 or 8 people minimum applying for each position it's sometimes tough.

As for my posting record, my convictions are pretty much on display. I challenge you to find one single post of mine, anywhere, that criticizes the concept of a basic safety net. But I find it.... interesting (and amusing) to get reactions like yours when someone actually admits to long term "mooching" off the public tit. Personally, I have no problem with my doing so; I worked like a dog in middle and senior management for 40 years and paid a shiat-load of taxes to help support that safety net. Now it is my turn, and reactions from libtards like you are simply Golden. Again, thanks for your money.
 
2013-01-18 03:11:39 PM  

petec: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Almet: The fool! He's just allowing them to go on Obongo's indefinate unemployment and 0boingboingcare and 0bama-llama phones!

HELL-yeah! Just got the letters Tuesday: Since Obama extended the UI, got another 13 weeks extension at $412 per week, then ANOTHER new claim, automatically following that, at $205 per week for 26 weeks - plus another 67 weeks of extensions for that claim.

And Monday we were notified we could start hunting for a Section 8 apartment. We'll be paying 30% of our combined monthly "income" for it, the taxpayers picking up the rest.

THANKS, taxpayers!

glad to help, guess you need a new fark handle now


You're right, I will. "Formally Just Another OC Homeless Guy" seems a little long. NOMINATIONS ARE NOW OPEN for my new handle when we get the place.
 
2013-01-18 03:12:04 PM  
Hey -

Didn't Romney start out with a Kool-Aid Stand?

A Smoothie Shop is just a glorified Kool-Aid Stand

Obviously, Capitalism is the problem here.

Early-onset capitalism seems to make people want their own money, not other people's money.
www.americanmethod.com

// Which is the Food Stamp line?
//  Can I buy more minutes for my Obongophone wif' Food Stamps?
 
2013-01-18 03:14:52 PM  

Aigoo: Utah (where this occurred) is an at-will employment state.


Good cause, bad cause, or no cause at all. It's lovely, huh? Exactly like that where I live. And we're called a "Right to Work" state! Which basically means you aren't forced to join a union to get a job. But as to actually having a right to work, that's a farkin' joke. In truth it's not funny whatsoever if you find yourself on the receiving end.

My brother's wife was a teacher for nearly 20 years with great performance reviews and a 6yr degree. A new pricipal came to the school and decided he didn't like her. So he fired her, just before Christmas. There is no union, no one to say the termination was wrongful, so she had no recourse.  Plus, now she's branded with a scarlet letter and no other school will touch her.

Her 20yr career as a teacher is done, so she's going back to school to be a nurse.
 
2013-01-18 03:21:56 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: The amount of "This guys is a dick - there MUST be a way to sue him!" in this thread gives me a sad.


Sorry, but your feelings are not lawsuit worthy, snowflakes.


No, it makes you happy. You LOVE the idea that liberals are gnashing their teeth and wailing in impotent rage.

At least be honest enough to admit to your Schadenfreude.
 
2013-01-18 03:22:10 PM  

ristst: Aigoo: Utah (where this occurred) is an at-will employment state.

Good cause, bad cause, or no cause at all. It's lovely, huh? Exactly like that where I live. And we're called a "Right to Work" state! Which basically means you aren't forced to join a union to get a job. But as to actually having a right to work, that's a farkin' joke. In truth it's not funny whatsoever if you find yourself on the receiving end.

My brother's wife was a teacher for nearly 20 years with great performance reviews and a 6yr degree. A new pricipal came to the school and decided he didn't like her. So he fired her, just before Christmas. There is no union, no one to say the termination was wrongful, so she had no recourse.  Plus, now she's branded with a scarlet letter and no other school will touch her.

Her 20yr career as a teacher is done, so she's going back to school to be a nurse.


Clearly she must just be an evil moocher who will never benefit society.

/Seriously, though, that's farked up.
 
2013-01-18 03:22:23 PM  

ItchyBrother: Didn't Romney start out with a Kool-Aid Stand?


In fact, he did!

If by "Kool-Aid" you mean "really big", and by "stand" you mean "trust fund."
 
2013-01-18 03:23:59 PM  

Could get interesting if evidence/testemony appeared that they were fired for VOTING for Obama.

Imagine a conversation like this:

Accountant: "We could make some more money if we let some people go"
Owner: How about those two guy who said the voted for Obama. I want to punish them for that
Accountant: Works for me!
Owner: lets tell everyone that's why we're doing it too!


18 USC § 241 - Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;


/or am I just trolling the "there is no Constitutional right to vote!" people?
 
2013-01-18 03:25:40 PM  
This asshole runs a company that does computer forensic investigations. How fair a shake do you think "liberals" get in the course of him doing his job? Seems like he just opened a big door leading to questions about his impartiality, I'm sure opposing attorneys will waste no time in making hay of this.
 
2013-01-18 03:27:32 PM  

Dimensio: As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


Especially since his story about having to lay off two people due to "Obongocare" [sic] is completely fictional.
 
2013-01-18 03:28:23 PM  
According to reports, after releasing the *2* part-time contract employees (an oxymoron... but I digress), he has 9 employees remaining (not sure if that includes the owner of Terry Lee Investigations or Terry Lee Forensics, or whatever he calls his box down by the river this week...) --

So at absolute most, he (had) 12 employees

And blames it on the high cost of O[slur]care...

Typical Republican Math Fail.

"The Employer Responsibility provision of the Affordable Care Act applies businesses with more than 50 full-time workers."

"If you have up to 25 employees, pay average annual wages below $50,000, and provide health insurance, you may qualify for a small business tax credit of up to 35% (up to 25% for non-profits) to offset the cost of your insurance. This will bring down the cost of providing insurance."

"If you are a small employer with 2-50 employees, health insurance companies cannot turn your business down based on the health status of your employees or their family members. This rule applies when you initially apply for small employer coverage and if you decide to change plans."

Yeah, this is gonna be pretty expensive
 
2013-01-18 03:29:14 PM  

ciberido: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: The amount of "This guys is a dick - there MUST be a way to sue him!" in this thread gives me a sad.


Sorry, but your feelings are not lawsuit worthy, snowflakes.

No, it makes you happy. You LOVE the idea that liberals are gnashing their teeth and wailing in impotent rage.

At least be honest enough to admit to your Schadenfreude.


As a liberal, I'm happy that those two employees now have a chance to find a good boss for a change. I'm also enjoying some schadenfeude, myself. All this is sound and fury signifying nothing. Republicans are the minority party now, and will be until they quit sucking the dick of the extreme right wing. They lost the House of Representatives vote and the only gerrymandering is keeping them in the majority.
 
2013-01-18 03:30:24 PM  

mark12A: BuzzFeed's Michael Hastings has come out with some explosive allegations against Chicago Mayor (and former White House chief-of-staff) Rahm Emanuel.


17 PICTURES THAT OF RAHM EMANUEL THAT WILL MAKE YOU GO WTF
 
2013-01-18 03:35:45 PM  
This comment page TL;DR: "How dare some guy shun people for having the wrong opinions! He has the wrong opinions, and deserves to be shunned!"
 
2013-01-18 03:37:18 PM  

mark12A: Is it just me, or are there a hell of a lot of people on the right who act like childish assholes?

Mmmm, yeah, about that.....

BuzzFeed's Michael Hastings has come out with some explosive allegations against Chicago Mayor (and former White House chief-of-staff) Rahm Emanuel. The reporter is claiming that the politician physically assaulted him during an interview, grabbing his arm and attempting to intimidate him "with a threat of physical violence."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/18/abusive-buzzfeed-reporter- c laims-rahm-emanuel-physically-assaulted-him-during-heated-interview/?u tm_medium=twitter&utm_source=story&utm_campaign=Share%20Buttons



I know that I for one believe Daily Caller "reporters".
 
2013-01-18 03:39:00 PM  

pciszek: The jury will all be Mormons from Utah, though.


not all of us are Mormons, brah.
 
2013-01-18 03:40:45 PM  

Coastalgrl: You can sell fanfiction on amazon?


It's worse. My kid asked me to enable purchases on is kindle so he could buy a My Little Pony book, called something like "Daring Do and the Jungle of Mystery"

Turns out its a pron parody based on MLP, written by Anonymous on 4chan, that someone put up on Amazon for profit. (Kid thought it was just a spinoff, he wasn't looking for pron)

Kid wasn't allowed to buy it.

/of course some asshats reviewed it as perfect for kids.
//firefox spellcheck thinks 'pron' is a real word. Who knew
 
2013-01-18 03:53:15 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: then drove 25 miles on the 5, 22, 405 and 710 freeways


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-18 03:54:45 PM  
Private business? Check.

If you don't like it, don't go there.
 
2013-01-18 03:59:17 PM  
Smoothies are a liberal's drink.
 
2013-01-18 04:01:52 PM  
What a retard.

But it's his business. Free country and all that.
 
2013-01-18 04:07:25 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: pciszek: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

The were temporarily appointed to their jobs, just like Bush was, for terms that ended at the exact same time Bush's did. I don't believe that Obama actually "fired" any of them.

No, that is not how it works.
The cabinet members are not hired for a "term".
Got anything else? Hopefully something that isn't blatantly wrong and stupid.


Just so 10lbfrommage gets another $1 for inspiring a reply:

US Constitution Article 2 Section 2 (clause 2)

"He shall have Power,...by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint...all other Officers of the United States"

Any law that tried to restrict, such as 'must keep previous occupants except with cause' who he could appoint would be unconstitutional.

So go ahead. Put on your 'successful troll is successful' shirt
 
2013-01-18 04:08:36 PM  

Rapmaster2000: "Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes," Lee wrote. "Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits."

I didn't know people used Obongo in non-ironic terms.


Alright, which one of you bastards is this? In their head, you know they typed it out 0bongo. This story has been on Fark more than it deserves, so which one of you is it?
 
2013-01-18 04:11:23 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: hammettman: Still, owner in story adds to the concrete evidence that conservatives and liberals are spiteful dicks

Fixed. A quick google shows dozens, just on the first page, of stories about people being fired for being conservative.


Tried it. Dozens? On the first page? You mean dozens of links about the same story, a Kansas "history" teacher who compared Obama to Hitler, who also loved to rant about possessing a large cache of guns that could be used to protect wimpy liberals from their evil fartbongo gubmint. I don't think that teacher was fired for being a conservative,though they had no problem trying to sue for that -- I think that teacher was fired by being a dangerous dumbass who had no business being around children.

Continue on with your conservative persecution fantasies.
 
2013-01-18 04:22:25 PM  

The Singing Bush: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: then drove 25 miles on the 5, 22, 405 and 710 freeways

[25.media.tumblr.com image 422x355]


Don't understand the reference.
 
2013-01-18 04:43:41 PM  

utah dude: pciszek: The jury will all be Mormons from Utah, though.

not all of us are Mormons, brah.


In a case widely perceived as "Mormons vs. The Evil Liberals", as this one would be, how hard would it be for the defense to keep gentiles off of the jury?
 
2013-01-18 04:50:43 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: 18 USC § 241 - Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;



So a single asshole boss acting alone would be in the clear?
 
2013-01-18 04:59:14 PM  

tarheel07: Have fun paying their unemployment benefits, asswipe.


Fired for cause. No unemployment responsibility.
 
2013-01-18 05:01:30 PM  

OnlyM3: SnarfVader


I don't have my GED in law, but political affiliation is not a protected class. I do not believe the fired employees have a case (especially in Utah).

That said, the owner is an asshat and deserves a boycott of his business.
I'm sure it will be as effective as you impotent boycott of that chicken joint.


Why do you champion blind hatred, racism, and oppression?
 
2013-01-18 05:06:55 PM  

MoxieLover: tarheel07: Have fun paying their unemployment benefits, asswipe.

Fired for cause. No unemployment responsibility.


At least in NC, it has to be "good cause attributable to the employer" in order for the ex-employee to be disqualified for unemployment insurance benefits (UIB). Not sure if this counts as such "good cause." Then again, this happened in Utah which may have a different standard, but I'd think most states would have similar standards for qualification/disqualification for UIB.
 
2013-01-18 05:09:07 PM  
Simple solution: Cut his tits off.

DNRTFA
 
2013-01-18 05:10:29 PM  

Witty Comment: Now I legally grow medicinal marijuana


Not in the United States, you don't.
 
2013-01-18 05:19:30 PM  

pciszek: Vlad_the_Inaner: 18 USC § 241 - Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;


So a single asshole boss acting alone would be in the clear?


Probably, although you perhaps could find some Beck, Limbaugh, or Michael Savage rant on defunding the left in that manner, and claim that the Utah guy followed through on that plan.

/(maybe all three, and get the executives from News Corp included too?)
 
2013-01-18 05:23:40 PM  

Weaver95: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

true...but I hope he doesn't have any competitors 'cause that's one HELL of an advertising campaign right there.  'don't spend money at this asshole's place - come to my establishment, where we don't give a flying f*ck about politics, we focus on delivering a quality product at decent prices and as a bonus, we won't talk about politics AT ALL!'


Bartender's rules is how I run my business.
 
2013-01-18 05:26:45 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: The Singing Bush: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: then drove 25 miles on the 5, 22, 405 and 710 freeways

[25.media.tumblr.com image 422x355]

Don't understand the reference.


The Californians
 
2013-01-18 05:27:54 PM  

pciszek: In a case widely perceived as "Mormons vs. The Evil Liberals", as this one would be, how hard would it be for the defense to keep gentiles off of the jury?


what, put the word 'evil' in from of the word 'Mormon' and you'd have the sentiment of the majority of the state, bro.
 
2013-01-18 05:36:28 PM  

Amos Quito: Example: If you owned a slaughterhouse, would you feel comfortable with hardcore PETA activist on your payroll?


I think you are mixing your metaphors there. They did not have membership in an organization whose beliefs ran contrary to the business.
 
BHK
2013-01-18 05:37:35 PM  

H31N0US: Good, now they can go get jobs working for someone who isn't an asshole about providing healthcare for his workers.


Right, how immoral. Your morals should be imposed by others. Just like conservative fundie Republicans want to do, but your morals are superior, of course.
 
2013-01-18 05:51:51 PM  
He would have a hard time keeping the windows to his office from breaking all the time if I was one of those fired employees.
 
2013-01-18 05:58:55 PM  

gja: LavenderWolf: Also, nobody tells you Merry Christmas infringes on anyone's rights. This is another right wing imagined enemy. Being wished "Happy Holidays" does not mean you can't say Merry Christmas. Frankly, I didn't even catch this one on my first read-through of your post. If you think this is true, you are seriously brainwashed. I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration; if you think Christmas is under any such attack, you are a brainwashed fool.

I had a woman in NYC fairly well shrill at me for saying that. Right outside Saks windows this past season. Others looked at her like "WTF?".
For myself I was to shocked to respond as I had my daughter in tow. I was mortified. First time it has ever happened to me, and I am a lifer-NYer.

I know christmas isn't under attack, but civility sure is these days.


Oh my GOD! A New Yorker was an asshole to another New Yorker! That NEVER happens!!!

www.cavemancircus.com
 
2013-01-18 06:31:06 PM  

Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.


No law against being an ahole.
 
2013-01-18 06:32:52 PM  

Latinwolf: Carth: Coastalgrl: madgonad: James F. Campbell: spentmiles: I'm wearing my MegaCorpse tee-shirt with a baby in a microwave on the back (I also sold tee shirts at death metal shows), black combat boots, and ass tight jeans. I turn back and say to her, "What's up sweetie?"

You're going to have to get a lot better at writing coherent narratives before you can sell your fanfiction on Amazon, PN.

Pocket Ninja doesn't need an alt account to practice his art - and if he had one it surely isn't spentmiles. And yes, while spentmiles is trying to be entertaining, underneath it all he is still just a tool. I do like what he is doing now better than the last couple years of trolling, but you can't unring a bell. (or get off my favorites list)

You can sell fanfiction on amazon?

Yea, just change the names like the 50 shades of grey lady did.

That was fan fiction? So what was the original source?


If was originally written at Twilight fan fiction before some names were changed. There is more information on the wikipedia page if you're curious.
 
2013-01-18 07:13:32 PM  

Amos Quito: Latinwolf: Amos Quito: Pants full of macaroni!!: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

You mean the same thing that happens every time the presidency changes hands?

Obviously.

Sweeping staff changes take place every time an election is held - whether president, governors, mayors, senators... ALL because of POLITICAL OPINIONS / AFFILIATION.

Sure, the guy may be an ass, but good luck with that prosecution / lawsuit.

For a good comparison you'd have to show that the company had a previous owner and that the new owner was the one that fired those workers.

No, the employer simply has to believe that the employee does (or may) work to the detriment of the company.

Example: If you owned a slaughterhouse, would you feel comfortable with hardcore PETA activist on your payroll?


How does being liberal or conservative have any affect on how well you make a smoothie?
 
2013-01-18 07:25:23 PM  

randomjsa: Private business? Check.

If you don't like it, don't go there.


Didn't read the article or intentionally trolling? Check.

You really need a new hobby.
 
2013-01-18 07:41:49 PM  
Perhaps he's losing business because he's a jackass.
 
2013-01-18 08:22:05 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Didn't read the article or intentionally trolling? Check.

You really need a new hobby.


Yes I did read the article.

The answer to "X business is doing... something... controversial!"

Is always... ALWAYS... Did I mention always?

Private business? Check.

If you don't like it, don't go there.

And since I know people really are this stupid and must have it spelled out for them. You can safely assume I'm not talking about anything that is actually illegal such as dumping toxic chemicals, serving food that will make people sick, or selling alcohol to minors. Don't be dense. You know what I mean.
 
2013-01-18 08:27:16 PM  

Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.


Unless one of them was a minority and that's how they "knew" they were an "Obongo" supporter. If so then congrats to that minority because they just became a small business owner!!
 
gja
2013-01-18 08:27:36 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: gja: LavenderWolf: Also, nobody tells you Merry Christmas infringes on anyone's rights. This is another right wing imagined enemy. Being wished "Happy Holidays" does not mean you can't say Merry Christmas. Frankly, I didn't even catch this one on my first read-through of your post. If you think this is true, you are seriously brainwashed. I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration; if you think Christmas is under any such attack, you are a brainwashed fool.

I had a woman in NYC fairly well shrill at me for saying that. Right outside Saks windows this past season. Others looked at her like "WTF?".
For myself I was to shocked to respond as I had my daughter in tow. I was mortified. First time it has ever happened to me, and I am a lifer-NYer.

I know christmas isn't under attack, but civility sure is these days.

Oh my GOD! A New Yorker was an asshole to another New Yorker! That NEVER happens!!!


www.cavemancircus.com

Yeah, yeah....I know, I know. Still, I try to live up to a better standard than that. Case in point: I will often stop my 'walking commute' to/from Penn when I see an obvious group of visitors taking pics of each other by landmarks. Why? I offer to "let them all get in the same pic" and will happily snap a pic of them all together. Because when I travel I have been shown that kindness and I am a fervent believer in "ye shall reap what ye sow".
Also, since I am able to work a bit of french/spanish/italian/portugese I will stop and try to help if I hear folks who are clearly having a tough time getting around and I can pick that up from their conversation. I would like that same courtesy some day, so I will do so just "because".

I'm not such an odd man out.  My fellow NYers often make me very happy to be one. I catch other NYers being decent and kind all the time.
And when things get dicey, NYers really know how to pull together.

So, this woman really caught me off guard. I am used to people being unusually congenial and nice around the holidays.
 
gja
2013-01-18 08:30:07 PM  

Shae123: Diogenes: Dimensio: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

As noted in the article, the owner violated no laws in terminating employees based upon political affiliation.

Perhaps.  Still an asshole.

No law against being an ahole.


No, you are correct. But (and this is a BIG but) there is also no law against ahole lawyers who take delight in raking you over the coals for shiztz-n-giggles.
Litigious little buggers, the lot. Especially when they think there is money or media time to be had.
 
2013-01-18 09:16:58 PM  

randomjsa: Keizer_Ghidorah: Didn't read the article or intentionally trolling? Check.

You really need a new hobby.

Yes I did read the article.

The answer to "X business is doing... something... controversial!"

Is always... ALWAYS... Did I mention always?

Private business? Check.

If you don't like it, don't go there.

And since I know people really are this stupid and must have it spelled out for them. You can safely assume I'm not talking about anything that is actually illegal such as dumping toxic chemicals, serving food that will make people sick, or selling alcohol to minors. Don't be dense. You know what I mean.


This isn't about people GOING there, dipshiat. It's about two of its employees being fired for not being members of the right political party.

Ironic that you biatch about having to spell things out to people when you always need things spelled out to you.
 
2013-01-18 09:43:34 PM  
i might have missed something but is he asking people who come to the counter if they're liberal or conservative before he makes their smoothies? how is this good for business? because i want a smoothie, not to be shamed for my unknown, unlabeled political leanings.
 
2013-01-18 09:51:36 PM  
www.sezin.org

Stay classy, Utah.
 
2013-01-18 10:03:35 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: Obongo bongo bongo I don't want to leave Fartbongo oh nonononono
Obama bingle bangle, I'm so happy in rural Utah I refuse to go


*snerk*
 
2013-01-18 10:13:20 PM  
FTFA: "They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were," Lee said.

In other words they were black.
 
2013-01-18 10:33:21 PM  
Shenanigans. Internet tough guy with a kitchen-table business invents stinky no-good liberal employees to piss on in an online comment.
 
2013-01-18 11:07:13 PM  

Carn: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Almet: The fool! He's just allowing them to go on Obongo's indefinate unemployment and 0boingboingcare and 0bama-llama phones!

HELL-yeah! Just got the letters Tuesday: Since Obama extended the UI, got another 13 weeks extension at $412 per week, then ANOTHER new claim, automatically following that, at $205 per week for 26 weeks - plus another 67 weeks of extensions for that claim.

And Monday we were notified we could start hunting for a Section 8 apartment. We'll be paying 30% of our combined monthly "income" for it, the taxpayers picking up the rest.

THANKS, taxpayers!

You're welcome. Considering your situation, I'm sure we'll never hear a peep from you about welfare queens, moochers, or anything similar, right?


Actually, yes you may. I don't think I've ever really posted anything about "welfare queens, moochers, or anything similar" and I certainly haven't posted anything about people actually in need who are NOT gaming the system. Those two classifications are as different as night and day. Sorta like: pickpockets -vs- honest workers with day jobs. Yeah, I DO in fact have a problem with "welfare queens, moochers, or anything similar." And since being homeless, where I've had the ability to discover stuff like that, I've narced out several of them. Maybe you don't see the distinction between the two, but most rational people (including virtually everyone in the homeless community) does.

So please take your little straw man and use it as a dildo. thanks.
 
2013-01-18 11:17:00 PM  

MagSeven: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: The Singing Bush: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: then drove 25 miles on the 5, 22, 405 and 710 freeways

[25.media.tumblr.com image 422x355]

Don't understand the reference.

The Californians


ZOMFG!!!1111!!11!!!! Hey, Duuuude, yuouuuu owe mayeeeeee a nauwwwww keeeeybooord!

(Never heard of it before.)
 
2013-01-18 11:19:49 PM  

Bucky Katt: FTFA: "They were Obama supporters. We just knew they were," Lee said.

In other words they were black.


I hadn't considered this point. If both fired people were black -- and no one else who worked there was -- then that "job creator" is in for a world of anal raping heretofore unbeknownst to him.
 
2013-01-18 11:35:49 PM  
Yah, baby. You can terminate anyone at anytime for no reason at all if no contract/union grievance process. Obamaphytes should be the first to go-they reaped what they sowed.
 
2013-01-18 11:42:28 PM  

theorellior: Wow. Someone actually uses the term "Obongo" in normal conversation.

So... this guy makes his living contracting to a government agency. What part of that isn't socialism?


None of it?

Please, please get a new shtick. That one is so old and busted it was turned down for a Whole Life policy by Allstate.
 
2013-01-18 11:46:43 PM  

legalgus: Yah, baby. You can terminate anyone at anytime for no reason at all if no contract/union grievance process. Obamaphytes should be the first to go-they reaped what they sowed.


It's funny how people like you hate health care for everyone, small businesses having an easier time, getting our troops out of the two pointless wars we've been waging for over ten years, Osama bin Laden's death, and trying to get America out of a recession.

Hopefully Obama endorses breathing so we can be rid of you.
 
2013-01-18 11:48:15 PM  

Heraclitus: Maybe they can claim being liberal is a disability...


That would be nothing but the truth.
 
2013-01-18 11:50:02 PM  

SnarfVader: If the owner fired the employees because of his hatred for Obama and his hatred from Obama is based on Obama's race, could the employees say they were technically fired because of racism?


Isn't that assumed to be true? I mean, why else would someone not love and worship Obama? Seriously.
 
2013-01-18 11:51:55 PM  

scrotal_aroma: Please tell me why this is a problem, and colleges not hiring conservative professors is not?


Duuuh! Because they're conservatives!
 
2013-01-18 11:52:53 PM  

WTF Indeed: OnlyM3: Illiterate liberal 1gja

lawsuits in 4....3....2....1
Illiterate liberal 2
WTF Indeed

Easiest Lawsuit Ever.

FTFA: "Federal and Utah law do not prevent private employers from firing employees on the basis of political affiliation"

Holy f*ck you are stupid.


Cogent, rational, logical response.
 
2013-01-18 11:55:07 PM  

Stephen_Falken: You know what the best part of this is? This owner is now going to be unable to hire anyone who's not a conservative idiot throwback neanderthal. That will mean erosion of his bottom line, which will in turn mean that he will have to close down his little homoerotic smoothie shop. And the absolute best part is:


OBAMA STILL WON THE ELECTION AND THERES NOT A GODDAMN THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT
LOL ROFLMAO U SUKC N00B


How do you dress yourself in the morning when you are apparently unable to actually think other than in memes, stereotypes, and talking points? Curious minds want to know.
 
2013-01-18 11:59:19 PM  

MyPenIsHuge: stirfrybry: bulldg4life: From his actions, he sounds like a goddamn retard...especially if he could fire two employees and still reasonably run his business. Sounds like a motherf*cking stupid business owner if he had these two employees on the payroll for no apparent reason whatsoever.

His words and using "obongo" as some sort of reasonable statement just indicate that he is a racist goddamn retard.

No surprise here.

LOL@racecard

This, why do people continue to throw down the term racist for every single statement they don't agree with?


It's easier than actually coming up with a rational argument.
 
2013-01-19 12:00:51 AM  

gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1


Shop burned down in 3... 2... 1...
 
2013-01-19 12:10:19 AM  
Yah, baby. You can terminate anyone at anytime for no reason at all if blabber blabber foo foo blarp fnord

Second Amendment remedy applied.

Bye now.

See you in Hell.
 
2013-01-19 12:12:33 AM  
Just Another OC Homeless Guy

Love how every post you made was a variation of "hurr durr LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS". Shows how little you contribute to anything.
 
2013-01-19 12:42:52 AM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: gja: lawsuits in 4....3....2....1

Shop burned down in 3... 2... 1...


Easy way to get a insurance payout for a failing business while fellating the fox and freinds crowd.
 
2013-01-19 01:07:32 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: And just on a side note, our country has an ideal that people should not be discriminated against for things beyond their control, such as gender, skin color, and many would argue sexual orientation. Joining a political party is a choice. Supporting Obama is a choice. And choices should and do have consequences, despite what some self-entitled "me-first, screw everyone else" idiots out there think.


Your religion is a choice. Your marital status is a choice. Getting pregnant is a choice. Yet there are laws that prevent you from getting fired for your religious beliefs, for being single/married/divorced, or for getting pregnant.

And you obviously choose to be an asshole.
 
2013-01-19 01:21:57 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: SnarfVader: If the owner fired the employees because of his hatred for Obama and his hatred from Obama is based on Obama's race, could the employees say they were technically fired because of racism?

Isn't that assumed to be true? I mean, why else would someone not love and worship Obama? Seriously.


You forgot to highlight the word "If".
 
2013-01-19 02:33:18 AM  

SnarfVader: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: SnarfVader: If the owner fired the employees because of his hatred for Obama and his hatred from Obama is based on Obama's race, could the employees say they were technically fired because of racism?

Isn't that assumed to be true? I mean, why else would someone not love and worship Obama? Seriously.

You forgot to highlight the word "If".


I mean, race IS the main reason Republicans object to anything Obama does.
 
2013-01-19 10:53:11 AM  

Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

Thanks.


/It's different
//When we do it
///Well, it is


Um, do you have the SLIGHTEST idea what the president's cabinet is, or what they do?
 
2013-01-19 04:51:32 PM  

PunGent: Amos Quito: For those of you who believe that the boss acted illegally in firing these guys, maybe you could explain (for me) how Obama justified firing the entire Bush White House cabinet when he took office?

Thanks.

/It's different
//When we do it
///Well, it is

Um, do you have the SLIGHTEST idea what the president's cabinet is, or what they do?


Of course he doesn't, if he did he couldn't use it as yet another bullet in his anti-Obama gun.
 
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