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2013-01-18 02:43:52 PM

Max Awesome: What the heck is wrong with a bit of sexual objectification? It sells books.

But it should be done equally, with heroic males presenting their butts and chests on covers in order to attract the female and gay eye - and our money.

Frank Frazetta was a master of this - even when his male figures were wearing the skimpiest of loincloths and their perfectly sculpted buttocks and bulging crotches were the obvious focal point of his paintings the men still managed to look like fierce warriors.

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Even many of his female figures - while essentially nude - were often dynamic, strongly muscled and looked like they could easily beat anybody's ass.

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Today's artists need to learn to strike a similar balance.


Come on, that chick in that last pic should've has National Geographic tits. Instead, she looks like a pron star.
 
2013-01-18 02:48:11 PM

Max Awesome: What the heck is wrong with a bit of sexual objectification? It sells books.

But it should be done equally, with heroic males presenting their butts and chests on covers in order to attract the female and gay eye - and our money.

Frank Frazetta was a master of this - even when his male figures were wearing the skimpiest of loincloths and their perfectly sculpted buttocks and bulging crotches were the obvious focal point of his paintings the men still managed to look like fierce warriors.

[i42.photobucket.com image 728x1024]

[i42.photobucket.com image 749x1024]

[i42.photobucket.com image 850x1006]

Even many of his female figures - while essentially nude - were often dynamic, strongly muscled and looked like they could easily beat anybody's ass.

[i42.photobucket.com image 765x1024]

Today's artists need to learn to strike a similar balance.


Exactly. Some of the trolls in this thread think that if you object to the way women are portrayed in comics, then you must want everyone to be in burlap sacks or some shiat. It's like they believe that every issue must be black and white, with the only possible positions being the ones at the extreme edges: either women can only appear in highly sexualized positions, or all comics must be about the patriarchy-destroying efforts of the Manhater Squad and deviation will result in jail time.
 
2013-01-18 02:49:14 PM
This lady would like to exchange words, possibly bullets with the author.


/or she just might rip him limb from limb with her cybernetic body.
//whatever works.
 
2013-01-18 02:49:26 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Also, Thor Girl? Are farking kidding me??? Could they not just crack open a Bulfinch's Mythology and grab the first female Norse name they encountered??? Hell, they could have just used Hera and the stories could have been about what an asskicker Thor's mom was in her youth.


Knowing comics, Thor Girl could very well just be Thor, but a girl. I don't know, I was told that's happened to Loki before.

Mike Chewbacca: Come on, that chick in that last pic should've has National Geographic tits. Instead, she looks like a pron star.


I don't think that's supposed to be pushed-up, but momentum from throwing her arm out while leaning a bit; mid-flop, if you will.

Then again, it looks like it could have been added as an afterthought too.
 
2013-01-18 02:49:57 PM

Max Awesome: Frank Frazetta


I like his work.  I'm also a big fan of Luis Royo (most of his stuff is not safe for work, if you decide to Google him).

His work is very sexual, and he does both men and women.  For example: Second Circle (very NSFW) or Tangent (also very NSFW)
 
2013-01-18 02:51:31 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Max Awesome: What the heck is wrong with a bit of sexual objectification? It sells books.

But it should be done equally, with heroic males presenting their butts and chests on covers in order to attract the female and gay eye - and our money.

Frank Frazetta was a master of this - even when his male figures were wearing the skimpiest of loincloths and their perfectly sculpted buttocks and bulging crotches were the obvious focal point of his paintings the men still managed to look like fierce warriors.

[i42.photobucket.com image 728x1024]

[i42.photobucket.com image 749x1024]

[i42.photobucket.com image 850x1006]

Even many of his female figures - while essentially nude - were often dynamic, strongly muscled and looked like they could easily beat anybody's ass.

[i42.photobucket.com image 765x1024]

Today's artists need to learn to strike a similar balance.

Come on, that chick in that last pic should've has National Geographic tits. Instead, she looks like a pron star.


Maybe they're just moving upwards in that shot.  Once she stops moving, they'll be back to normal.
 
2013-01-18 02:51:54 PM
This lady would like to exchange words, possibly bullets with the author.
i.imgur.com
/or she just might rip him limb from limb with her cybernetic body.
//whatever works.
///fixed the imglink
 
2013-01-18 02:53:54 PM

ProfessorOhki: Mike Chewbacca: Also, Thor Girl? Are farking kidding me??? Could they not just crack open a Bulfinch's Mythology and grab the first female Norse name they encountered??? Hell, they could have just used Hera and the stories could have been about what an asskicker Thor's mom was in her youth.

Knowing comics, Thor Girl could very well just be Thor, but a girl. I don't know, I was told that's happened to Loki before.


From Wiki: Tarene later transforms herself into an Asgardian goddess and becomes Thor's loyal ally, taking the name "Thor Girl" and the human identity of Jake Olson's "cousin" Tara.
 
2013-01-18 02:55:39 PM

fluffy2097: This lady would like to exchange words, possibly bullets with the author.
[i.imgur.com image 850x909]
/or she just might rip him limb from limb with her cybernetic body.
//whatever works.
///fixed the imglink


No, she would probably shake his hand.
 
2013-01-18 02:55:58 PM

mgshamster: Mike Chewbacca:
Come on, that chick in that last pic should've has National Geographic tits. Instead, she looks like a pron star.

Maybe they're just moving upwards in that shot.  Once she stops moving, they'll be back to normal.


It could also be the wind. It's whipping their hair over in the same direction... Maybe it's like hurricane force, and blowing her tits sideways, too?

/What about their loin cloths, you ask? They're made of lead.
 
2013-01-18 02:58:17 PM

Mike Chewbacca:
Come on, that chick in that last pic should've has National Geographic tits. Instead, she looks like a pron star.


Yes, she's idealized, but that's not in itself a bad thing.

He sole purpose in that drawing is not to just be a passive sex object. She's pushing the male out of the way and charging towards the bitey dinosaur with her knife. Not something I've seen a lot of porn stars do.
 
2013-01-18 02:58:36 PM

Theaetetus: mgshamster: Mike Chewbacca:
Come on, that chick in that last pic should've has National Geographic tits. Instead, she looks like a pron star.

Maybe they're just moving upwards in that shot.  Once she stops moving, they'll be back to normal.

It could also be the wind. It's whipping their hair over in the same direction... Maybe it's like hurricane force, and blowing her tits sideways, too?

/What about their loin cloths, you ask? They're made of lead.


Hey, on Jurassic Earth, you need to watch out for rogue x-ray machines!
 
2013-01-18 02:58:37 PM
OH GOD! SHES SO SEXUALIZED!
i.imgur.com
EVEN MORE PROOF THAT WOMEN IN ART ARE ONLY SEXUAL OBJECTS!

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-18 02:58:38 PM

Theaetetus: ProfessorOhki: Theaetetus: [dreamworlds.ru image 600x911]
Not sexualized

[images.comiccollectorlive.com image 369x567]
Sexualized

Alright, so... are we talking strictly about sexualized poses or also sexualized character design and sexualized clothing here? If it's just the poses, sure.

That's what I was talking about, yes.

If it's the outfit, the top one could go either way.

We could also talk about clothing. I don't think that one's nearly so blatant, beyond the half-tank. Would you ever see a comic cover with a guy wearing tight leather pants and a tank top? Sure. Full body spandex suit? Absolutely.
But this?


No. The barely-there sexualized outfits are unique to female characters.

If it's character design? C'mon, Hulk is a big lumbering green beast and She-Hulk is well-proportioned, muscled (but not to freakish levels), and has full lips.

It's the perfect example of your power/sex argument from earlier.

Sure, and you could even go farther and point out that Hulk has a name of his own, while She-Hulk is only named relative to him. Or consider Superman vs. Supergirl or Power Girl, Batman vs. Batgirl, Aquaman vs. Aquagirl, Bulletman vs. Bulletgirl, Hawkman vs. Hawkgirl, and of course, the most retarded of them all...

Thor Girl.


Judging from the blank space in the crotch region, I doubt she's Thor at all.
 
2013-01-18 02:59:11 PM

Theaetetus: ProfessorOhki: Mike Chewbacca: Also, Thor Girl? Are farking kidding me??? Could they not just crack open a Bulfinch's Mythology and grab the first female Norse name they encountered??? Hell, they could have just used Hera and the stories could have been about what an asskicker Thor's mom was in her youth.

Knowing comics, Thor Girl could very well just be Thor, but a girl. I don't know, I was told that's happened to Loki before.

From Wiki: Tarene later transforms herself into an Asgardian goddess and becomes Thor's loyal ally, taking the name "Thor Girl" and the human identity of Jake Olson's "cousin" Tara.


I wasn't sure because I passed this on TVTropes while looking for examples of revealing male costu- PHRASING

In Earth X, Thor was transformed into a woman as another humility lesson given by his father, Odin. For no explained reason, this costume places Thor's usual metal discs on her breasts like cups, gives her Thigh-High Boots, and frames her figure with holes that show off every curve of her body. Remember, for all intents and purposes, this is a character that was once male. So that means either Thor decided that not having a penis meant that it was time to make a sluttier costume...or Odin did.
 
2013-01-18 03:01:43 PM

Magorn: Ed Grubermann: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 420x640]

Now this panel illustrates the danger of using Male models for a romance book cover, as many of them are gay, as this guy clearly is.  The hot chick is wrapping herself around him, and he's not even looking at her, but staring off into the middle distance with a "The shiat I have to put upp with just to pay the bills" expression on his face


Heh. The face on that cover is Stephen King's face. The cover is from one of the books written by the main character in Misery.
 
2013-01-18 03:04:08 PM

ProfessorOhki: Theaetetus: ProfessorOhki: Mike Chewbacca: Also, Thor Girl? Are farking kidding me??? Could they not just crack open a Bulfinch's Mythology and grab the first female Norse name they encountered??? Hell, they could have just used Hera and the stories could have been about what an asskicker Thor's mom was in her youth.

Knowing comics, Thor Girl could very well just be Thor, but a girl. I don't know, I was told that's happened to Loki before.

From Wiki: Tarene later transforms herself into an Asgardian goddess and becomes Thor's loyal ally, taking the name "Thor Girl" and the human identity of Jake Olson's "cousin" Tara.

I wasn't sure because I passed this on TVTropes while looking for examples of revealing male costu- PHRASING

In Earth X, Thor was transformed into a woman as another humility lesson given by his father, Odin. For no explained reason, this costume places Thor's usual metal discs on her breasts like cups, gives her Thigh-High Boots, and frames her figure with holes that show off every curve of her body. Remember, for all intents and purposes, this is a character that was once male. So that means either Thor decided that not having a penis meant that it was time to make a sluttier costume...or Odin did.


Well, that's pretty offensive, too.
 
2013-01-18 03:04:16 PM

mgshamster: Max Awesome: Frank Frazetta

I like his work.  I'm also a big fan of Luis Royo (most of his stuff is not safe for work, if you decide to Google him).

His work is very sexual, and he does both men and women.  For example: Second Circle (very NSFW) or Tangent (also very NSFW)


Royo's work is lovely, and I appreciate his equal opportunity approach to portraying both beautiful males and females, but his figures tend to just lay around looking sexy. They all look like they're about to fall asleep (sexily).

I prefer sexy warriors who actually tend to act warrior-like occasionally.
 
2013-01-18 03:05:11 PM

fluffy2097: This lady would like to exchange words, possibly bullets with the author.
[i.imgur.com image 850x909]
/or she just might rip him limb from limb with her cybernetic body.
//whatever works.
///fixed the imglink


That's a hell of an example to pick. Go read Masamune Shirow's manga and then say with a straight face that The Major isn't sexualized. I'd find something to post, but I ain't search through his work on a PC that's not mine.
 
2013-01-18 03:05:19 PM
I don't think that the problem is really having sexually attractive female (or male) characters on itself, but the OVERLY sexualized of their nature.

The pics that Theaetetus posted as non sexualized are still very attractive, but the attractiveness or the sexy elements are complements of the overall composition, not the main point.

But then again, I don't think that the art discussion should be that much about gender issues as about of tastes and class.

Writing on the other hand...
 
2013-01-18 03:06:11 PM
Maybe we should just stop drawing women all together. Since any drawing of a woman is OMGSEXUAL
fc01.deviantart.net

/shes a cyborg. She doesn't even have a cooter.
 
2013-01-18 03:08:23 PM

fluffy2097: Maybe we should just stop drawing women all together. Since any drawing of a woman is OMGSEXUAL


Didn't we address this idiotic troll like 50 posts ago?
 
2013-01-18 03:08:30 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

I see Liefeld isn't the only one who can't make up their minds which way they want a sword to face as they are drawing it. If they can't get a sword right, it's no wonder a human body gets twisted.
 
2013-01-18 03:12:17 PM

Theaetetus: fluffy2097: Maybe we should just stop drawing women all together. Since any drawing of a woman is OMGSEXUAL

Didn't we address this idiotic troll like 50 posts ago?


Fluffy and Rocky always post in these threads, claiming there's nothing at all wrong with highly sexualized women in art. If some comic had a superheroine that was just a pair of giant tits above a giant vulva, they'd think it was totally fine.

/"Fighting crime with my Labia Majora of Justice!"
 
2013-01-18 03:13:23 PM
Theaetetus:
Hooray, a third incorrect assumption! That's three strikes, and you're back to troll land.

Yeah, but I'm also not the one posting links to terrible, mainstream comics.

Tell me about the sexuality in Martha Washington or Gaimen's Black Orchid -then I'll believe that you have a case.

Until then, you haven't explained the prevailence of "sexist" Romance Novel covers.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-18 03:14:19 PM

Theaetetus: Not sexualized:


I don't know, I'd fark her.
 
2013-01-18 03:14:49 PM

fluffy2097: Maybe we should just stop drawing women all together. Since any drawing of a woman is OMGSEXUAL
[fc01.deviantart.net image 800x600]

/shes a cyborg. She doesn't even have a cooter.


so then what's the point of DESIGNING a robot with a Double D-Cup exactly?   I'm no feminist but chainmail bikinis and curiases with cut-outs  are stupid enough to snap my suspension of disbelief and sometimes ruin a book for me.   It's every bit as bad a horrible Jennifer robeson Fantasy  novel I read where the lead characters are a Barabrian nomad from the desert and a warrior woman from the mountainous highlands, and at some point he starts really suffering from the cold, because, you see, he's from the desert, and thus doesn;t own any heavy or warm clothing.   Having spent some sub 32 deg nights in deserts that were 115F+ during the day I wanted to hurl the novel out the window at the sheer stupdity of that and never did finished reading it
 
2013-01-18 03:16:42 PM

ProfessorOhki: C'mon, Hulk is a big lumbering green beast and She-Hulk is well-proportioned, muscled (but not to freakish levels), and has full lips.


I thought that was more due to the Comics Code Authority's rule that "Females shall be drawn realistically without exaggeration of any physical qualities."

You weren't allowed to make women have unrealistic proportions back in those days, even if the unrealistic proportions took the form of Hulk-sized muscles.
 
2013-01-18 03:17:09 PM

Max Awesome: mgshamster: Max Awesome: Frank Frazetta

I like his work.  I'm also a big fan of Luis Royo (most of his stuff is not safe for work, if you decide to Google him).

His work is very sexual, and he does both men and women.  For example: Second Circle (very NSFW) or Tangent (also very NSFW)

Royo's work is lovely, and I appreciate his equal opportunity approach to portraying both beautiful males and females, but his figures tend to just lay around looking sexy. They all look like they're about to fall asleep (sexily).

I prefer sexy warriors who actually tend to act warrior-like occasionally.


For the most part, yes. In Prohibited, most certainly. He has a couple of action shots in some of his other books.  Check out Dreams. Also, there's a pretty cool short story in Evolution, called "Malefic" if you ever get the chance to check it out.

"Shadowrun: Run Hard, Die Fast" (NSFW images in sidebar) is in Dreams.
 
2013-01-18 03:17:49 PM

Theaetetus: mgshamster: Mike Chewbacca:
Come on, that chick in that last pic should've has National Geographic tits. Instead, she looks like a pron star.

Maybe they're just moving upwards in that shot.  Once she stops moving, they'll be back to normal.

It could also be the wind. It's whipping their hair over in the same direction... Maybe it's like hurricane force, and blowing her tits sideways, too?

/What about their loin cloths, you ask? They're made of lead.


That last one actually pretty much proves your point in spades, I have to admit.  The Man and woman depicted are wearing the exact same clothing, but somehow she manages to look like a sex doll while he still looks like an NFL player hanging out in a locker room.
 
2013-01-18 03:18:04 PM

SomeoneDumb: I hope these researchers never get around to looking at video games.


Every time I take my paladin to Northrend, I put a flannel shirt on her. I know she's just a cartoon, but *I* get chilly looking at her.
 
2013-01-18 03:22:02 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Theaetetus: fluffy2097: Maybe we should just stop drawing women all together. Since any drawing of a woman is OMGSEXUAL

Didn't we address this idiotic troll like 50 posts ago?

Fluffy and Rocky always post in these threads, claiming there's nothing at all wrong with highly sexualized women in art. If some comic had a superheroine that was just a pair of giant tits above a giant vulva, they'd think it was totally fine.

/"Fighting crime with my Labia Majora of Justice!"


Hmm.. Thinking about it, that's wouldn't be that bad. In that case, at least the labia is the superhuman part that fights crime.  Usually, the drawings are emphasizing sexiness that have nothing to do with the character or the action shot in question.
 
2013-01-18 03:22:44 PM

Magorn: fluffy2097: Maybe we should just stop drawing women all together. Since any drawing of a woman is OMGSEXUAL
[fc01.deviantart.net image 800x600]

/shes a cyborg. She doesn't even have a cooter.

so then what's the point of DESIGNING a robot with a Double D-Cup exactly?


Extra chassis space.

/In anime? Maybe missile hardpoints as well.
 
2013-01-18 03:24:13 PM

Magorn: Theaetetus: mgshamster: Mike Chewbacca:
Come on, that chick in that last pic should've has National Geographic tits. Instead, she looks like a pron star.

Maybe they're just moving upwards in that shot.  Once she stops moving, they'll be back to normal.

It could also be the wind. It's whipping their hair over in the same direction... Maybe it's like hurricane force, and blowing her tits sideways, too?

/What about their loin cloths, you ask? They're made of lead.

That last one actually pretty much proves your point in spades, I have to admit.  The Man and woman depicted are wearing the exact same clothing, but somehow she manages to look like a sex doll while he still looks like an NFL player hanging out in a locker room.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
 
2013-01-18 03:24:33 PM

Magorn: fluffy2097: Maybe we should just stop drawing women all together. Since any drawing of a woman is OMGSEXUAL
[fc01.deviantart.net image 800x600]

/shes a cyborg. She doesn't even have a cooter.

so then what's the point of DESIGNING a robot with a Double D-Cup exactly?   I'm no feminist but chainmail bikinis and curiases with cut-outs  are stupid enough to snap my suspension of disbelief and sometimes ruin a book for me.   It's every bit as bad a horrible Jennifer robeson Fantasy  novel I read where the lead characters are a Barabrian nomad from the desert and a warrior woman from the mountainous highlands, and at some point he starts really suffering from the cold, because, you see, he's from the desert, and thus doesn;t own any heavy or warm clothing.   Having spent some sub 32 deg nights in deserts that were 115F+ during the day I wanted to hurl the novel out the window at the sheer stupdity of that and never did finished reading it


The prison breakout scene in Watchmen in which Silk Spectre is wearing stiletto heels with her VERY long hair unbound makes me cringe. Even Steven Seagal ties his hair back when he's gonna beat some ass.
 
2013-01-18 03:26:44 PM
mgshamster:

"Shadowrun: Run Hard, Die Fast" (NSFW images in sidebar) is in Dreams.

Thanks for the recommendation! I'll check it out.
 
2013-01-18 03:28:49 PM
It's almost as if women and men dressed differently in their idealized forms and women showed more skin:

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l.yimg.com
 
2013-01-18 03:31:48 PM

ProfessorOhki: That's a hell of an example to pick. Go read Masamune Shirow's manga and then say with a straight face that The Major isn't sexualized. I'd find something to post, but I ain't search through his work on a PC that's not mine.


She blatantly rebuffs every single sexual advance made upon her by Batou.

In fact, the only time she IS seen in a sexual context is when it's her day off and she's having cybersex with her GIRLFRIENDS (It was cut out in the black horse edition manga).

Kusanagi is the epitome of the hardened soldier, and the only thing left that is still her is her soul. Even her brain and memory is owned by the government.

She doesn't give a single goddamn shiat about what her cyborg shell is dressed in. If anything, it's a tactical decision. A lecherous hump might stare at her instead of pulling the trigger.

Heres another shot of Motoko in one of her "powerless, submissive nearly naked outfits."
i.imgur.com
Now since you seem to be hung up on everything being sexual. Lets take a look at a more risque shot, and have a discussion about it.
www.theanimegallery.com
Notice the fact that the robot she is leaning on is devoid of any armor plating. You can see straight through to it's actuators. Motoko, being a machine herself (except for a small part of her brain stem), is much like robot behind her.

Clothing is just a shell to her. An outer casing used to protect vital components as it were.

And lets face it, her cyborg body is not even that exotic. It's made specifically to look like a mass market shell in order to not stand out.

There ARE fantasy and sci-fi artists who do cheesecake for cheesecakes sake. Shirow is even one of them. But to say that it's some sort of epidemic, or that there cannot be reasons behind it, or that a story won't sell without a half naked contorted bimbo is just stupid.

Here's Deunan from Appleseed in her civies. she wears a skirt! The horror!
moviesmedia.ign.com

Here's Deunan in her combat gear. She sure seems helpless doesn't she.
animearts.files.wordpress.com

/I think I like her better in the landmate....
 
2013-01-18 03:33:16 PM

Magorn: so then what's the point of DESIGNING a robot with a Double D-Cup exactly?


Because robots are designed by basement dwelling nerds?

/ducks
 
2013-01-18 03:34:06 PM

Magorn: so then what's the point of DESIGNING a robot with a Double D-Cup exactly?


Alita is a cyborg for one, not a robot. Are you implying she shouldn't have breasts because her body is metal instead of flesh? Perhaps it makes her feel better about her self image.
 
2013-01-18 03:38:29 PM

Theaetetus: No. The barely-there sexualized outfits are unique to female characters.


That's because men don't wear leotards.

Why don't women ever wear cups?
 
2013-01-18 03:40:17 PM

mgshamster: Magorn: so then what's the point of DESIGNING a robot with a Double D-Cup exactly?

Because robots are designed by basement dwelling nerds?

/ducks


ajbulldis.files.wordpress.com
Yep.
 
2013-01-18 03:41:43 PM

fluffy2097: Theaetetus: No. The barely-there sexualized outfits are unique to female characters.

That's because men don't wear leotards.


upload.wikimedia.org
Jules Leotard, inventor of the leotard, begs to differ, you farkin' tard.
 
2013-01-18 03:42:02 PM
A lot of defensiveness in this thread.

God, I hope many of you are being purposely obtuse.
 
2013-01-18 03:42:18 PM

Magorn:

That last one actually pretty much proves your point in spades, I have to admit.  The Man and woman depicted are wearing the exact same clothing, but somehow she manages to look like a sex doll while he still looks like an NFL player hanging out in a locker room.


Stabby sex-dolls who fight dinosaurs are a thing in your world?

Or is it the fact that she's nearly naked? Does a naked woman just automatically mean sex-doll to you?

The equally naked male is actually a rather passive figure in this composition. She's the active fighter in that painting while the male is hanging back letting her take the lead.

He has his axe raised but is leaning backwards away from the threat, (perhaps fromt the strength of her push) while she is leaning forward, ready to step closer towards the danger. She's no helpless blow-up doll at all.
 
2013-01-18 03:44:22 PM

Because People in power are Stupid:

Tell me about the sexuality in Martha Washington or Gaimen's Black Orchid -then I'll believe that you have a case.

Until then, you haven't explained the prevailence of "sexist" Romance Novel covers.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 400x338]


Two of my all-time favorite comic books ever!

Black Orchid is so beautiful... thanks for reminding me of it. I think I'll re-read it again today.
 
2013-01-18 03:45:23 PM

Theaetetus: fluffy2097: Theaetetus: No. The barely-there sexualized outfits are unique to female characters.

That's because men don't wear leotards.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 350x560]
Jules Leotard, inventor of the leotard, begs to differ, you farkin' tard.


Can you find an image that's not 120 years old please?
 
2013-01-18 03:46:32 PM

rocky_howard: It's almost as if women and men dressed differently in their idealized forms and women showed more skin:

[i.huffpost.com image 260x190]
[img.ibtimes.com image 850x1173]
[0.tqn.com image 273x400]
[popseoul.files.wordpress.com image 400x633]
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Yes, because sexy Hollywood stars dressing sexily at a movie premiere is EXACTLY the same thing as a huge-breasted comic book heroine wearing useless bikini armor into battle.
 
2013-01-18 03:46:47 PM

fluffy2097: Theaetetus: fluffy2097: Theaetetus: No. The barely-there sexualized outfits are unique to female characters.

That's because men don't wear leotards.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 350x560]
Jules Leotard, inventor of the leotard, begs to differ, you farkin' tard.

Can you find an image that's not 120 years old please?


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2013-01-18 03:49:09 PM

Theaetetus: fluffy2097: Theaetetus: fluffy2097: Theaetetus: No. The barely-there sexualized outfits are unique to female characters.

That's because men don't wear leotards.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 350x560]
Jules Leotard, inventor of the leotard, begs to differ, you farkin' tard.

Can you find an image that's not 120 years old please?

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So I guess barely there sexualized outfits are for men too huh? I thought you said they weren't.
 
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