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(Washington Times)   Bad news: public approval of the NRA has hit an all-time low. Good news: They are still more popular than Hollywood   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 123
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2013-01-18 09:33:39 AM  
What the hell are you talking about, dumbmitter?
 
2013-01-18 09:51:36 AM  
Yeah, this headline is completely incomprehensible. Submitter sounds like one of those people from Breitbart who thinks Americans ache for more movies about Ayn Rand and the miracle of abstinence.

Also, Americans hate Hollywood so much that box office ticket sales set an all-time record this year.
 
2013-01-18 09:52:36 AM  
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2013-01-18 09:54:27 AM  
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2013-01-18 10:19:16 AM  
...what?

Seriously, 1) what the hell are you going on about and 2) Why the hell is this greenlit?
 
2013-01-18 10:30:12 AM  

sigdiamond2000: Yeah, this headline is completely incomprehensible. Submitter sounds like one of those people from Breitbart who thinks Americans ache for more movies about Ayn Rand and the miracle of abstinence.

Also, Americans hate Hollywood so much that box office ticket sales set an all-time record this year.


You can hate actors and directors and still like their movies.  Their are many people who I think are douchebags who produce a quality product.
 
2013-01-18 10:38:44 AM  
As a Conservative Republican, I can't stand Liberal HOLLYWEIRD kooks! LOL at Limosine left coast hippies and their vapid stupid world. We don't need them!

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2013-01-18 10:57:50 AM  
*Reads headline....*

*Reads article*

"The NRA's score is virtually unchanged from its 41 percent-to-29 percent rating in the January 2011 NBC/WSJ poll, nearly two years before the Newtown shootings."

"A new CNN/Time/ORC survey conducted in mid-January found that nearly half of Americans -48 percent - "agree with the positions" of the group."

*Conclusions*
1. Stern look at subby
2. Surprised at the second factoid given all the demonizing the past few weeks.
 
2013-01-18 11:00:55 AM  
After the press conference and a subsequent appearance on "Meet the Press," the NRA's favorability shifted to a 42-45 negative split - a 10-point swing in three weeks.

Meanwhile, the Washington Post and ABC found that the NRA's favorability rating is underwater for the first time ever in their limited polling of the question. According to the poll, only 36 percent said they have a favorable opinion of the NRA, compared with 44 percent who view it in a negative light.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nra-approval-ratings-press-conference-g un-control-video-games-media-2013-1#ixzz2ILM0m8zc

Thanks Obama

Link
 
2013-01-18 11:04:15 AM  
Seeing how Hollywood is a place and the NRA is a group, I don't see how you can compare them.
 
2013-01-18 11:05:24 AM  
What does Hollywood has to do with NRA?

I guess, it's just FARK's daily dose of gun thread, and proposal and counter proposal about what we should and should not be doing.

Well, someone on facebook posted the perfect solution to solving the gun problem: someone tell Fox news that Muslims and Blacks are buying guns in droves. They will come up with all the new laws needed and how to apply the existing laws to prevent gun sales.
 
2013-01-18 11:06:03 AM  
Meanwhile, the Washington Post and ABC found that the NRA's favorability rating is underwater for the first time ever in their limited polling of the question. According to the poll, only 36 percent said they have a favorable opinion of the NRA, compared with 44 percent who view it in a negative light.

Weird. It's almost like people don't like it when you exploit the senseless massacre of schoolchildren for political gain. Maybe if anyone at the NRA had any morals, they'd be a bit more popular.
 
2013-01-18 11:06:37 AM  

cretinbob: What the hell are you talking about, dumbmitter?

 
2013-01-18 11:08:31 AM  
Here's a gem from the inbox this morning:

There are political fires raging across Capitol Hill right now and they're closing in fast on your Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

President Barack Obama and anti-gun politicians are on an all-out crusade to pass new laws that would: BAN tens of millions of rifles, shotguns and handguns...make it more difficult, expensive, and in some cases, ILLEGAL for you to purchase ammunition...and even FORCE you to register your firearms with the federal government.

Some are even talking about a mandatory gun confiscation and "buyback" program - where you would be forced to hand over your guns in exchange for a government check!

NONE of this would have the slightest impact on making our children, our homes, or our communities safer. And that's sad, because now more than ever, we need our elected officials to take serious steps toward improving public safety... particularly in our nation's schools.

But the fact is, despite their statements, the main goal of the gun banners in Congress is not to make schools safer, but to ban your guns and abolish every last sacred right you have under the Second Amendment..until they reduce your freedom to ashes.
Your NRA-ILA is fighting every hour of every day to hold the line, but there is no way we can win without your full and active participation RIGHT NOW.

President Barack Obama recently pledged to raise $20 million to ram his gun ban agenda through Congress. And Obama's got plenty of rich, gun-hating friends in Hollywood, along with anti-gun billionaire Michael Bloomberg, who will shower him with the money he needs to strip you of your gun rights.

I don't have friends like that. I've got something much better...YOU. You know what's at stake. You love your freedom and your country, and I know you're willing to STAND AND FIGHT to save both of them.

So please, whatever you can afford to give NRA-ILA right now, I need you to do it.

Whether it's as little as $10, or as much as $150 or more, every single dollar will go toward winning this once-in-a-generation battle to save our Second Amendment freedom. AND EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR YOU GIVE TODAY COUNTS!
Your contributions to NRA-ILA support our fight on your behalf in the halls of Congress and across the country. Your contributions are the lifeblood of our legislative and legal initiatives, research, educational pieces, press activities, and all of our pro-gun advertising and grassroots activism.

There is no other way to put it: Our strength comes from you. Our ability to win comes from you. That's why I'm asking you to help save our Second Amendment by making NRA-ILA stronger than ever before.

Thank you for everything you do to support NRA-ILA and defend freedom.

Please help as soon as you can.

Sincerely,
Chris W. Cox
Executive Director
NRA/ILA


So yeah... observable reality hasn't slowed down their hucksterism one bit.
 
2013-01-18 11:08:53 AM  

mayIFark: What does Hollywood has to do with NRA?



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2013-01-18 11:10:44 AM  

mittromneysdog: Meanwhile, the Washington Post and ABC found that the NRA's favorability rating is underwater for the first time ever in their limited polling of the question. According to the poll, only 36 percent said they have a favorable opinion of the NRA, compared with 44 percent who view it in a negative light.

Weird. It's almost like people don't like it when you exploit the senseless massacre of schoolchildren for political gain. Maybe if anyone at the NRA had any morals, they'd be a bit more popular.


Citation?
 
2013-01-18 11:14:17 AM  
If the NRA really wants to make a point the Democrats can't howl too loudly about, they should be harping on this, rather than Obama's daughters' SS detail:
Two simple questions should suffice:

"Did Sandy Hook happen with a Fast and Furious weapon"?

"How many Sandy Hooks have?"
 
2013-01-18 11:20:06 AM  

what_now: ...what?

Seriously, 1) what the hell are you going on about and 2) Why the hell is this greenlit?


This just in: stupid people are more likely to approve of stupid shiat. News at eleven.
 
2013-01-18 11:21:57 AM  

HAMMERTOE: If the NRA really wants to make a point the Democrats can't howl too loudly about, they should be harping on this, rather than Obama's daughters' SS detail:
Two simple questions should suffice:

"Did Sandy Hook happen with a Fast and Furious weapon"?

"How many Sandy Hooks have?"


Yeah that couldn't possibly blow up in their face.
 
2013-01-18 11:32:59 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Yeah that couldn't possibly blow up in their face.



Did you read the article? If factual, (and I'm not automatically assuming it is,) it's pretty damning. And it also serves to remind people that this Administration was for putting guns in the hands of nuts and criminals before they were against it. Where have I heard something like that before?
 
2013-01-18 11:39:31 AM  

HAMMERTOE: HotWingConspiracy: Yeah that couldn't possibly blow up in their face.


Did you read the article? If factual, (and I'm not automatically assuming it is,) it's pretty damning. And it also serves to remind people that this Administration was for putting guns in the hands of nuts and criminals before they were against it. Where have I heard something like that before?


If they want to get in to the business of admitting that guns kill people, I say go for it.
 
2013-01-18 11:41:59 AM  

HotWingConspiracy:
Yeah that couldn't possibly blow up in their face.


It is a legitimate question. If the Obama Administration is so set against giving guns to bad guys, why where they giving guns to bad guys?

The bigger question that I have is why they are trying so hard to hide what really happened.
 
2013-01-18 11:45:46 AM  

HotWingConspiracy:
If they want to get in to the business of admitting that guns kill people, I say go for it.


This issue is not about guns killing peole, but about bad people killing other people with guns. When you supply said bad people with guns, other folks are going to have some hard questions for you. The fact that they are covering the issue up does speak volumes as to they don't want this debacle to become a distraction to thier larger anti-gun agenda.
 
2013-01-18 11:47:46 AM  

HeadLever: . When you supply said bad people with guns, other folks are going to have some hard questions for you.


So gun shops and manufacturers should be legally responsible for any criminal use of the products they sell, right?
 
2013-01-18 11:47:47 AM  

EvilEgg: You can hate actors and directors and still like their movies.  Their are many people who I think are douchebags who produce a quality product.


Eastwood makes some of the best films of modern times. So what if he's a crank, politically. He typically keeps it out of his films.

 Conversely, you can still like the Dixie Chicks no matter what they say. I've never understood why people abandon artists they otherwise like because of political affiliation (see: my father and Bruce Springsteen).
 
2013-01-18 11:50:07 AM  
George Clooney was inconsolable upon hearing this news, until he had an orgy on top of a 10 foot pile of $100 bills.
 
2013-01-18 11:53:04 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: HeadLever: . When you supply said bad people with guns, other folks are going to have some hard questions for you.

So gun shops and manufacturers should be legally responsible for any criminal use of the products they sell, right?


If they diretly sell the gun to a known person that is not allowed to own guns or is knowingly engaging in a straw purchase, yep. If they legally sell the product and it is later used in a crime, nope.
 
2013-01-18 11:53:51 AM  
I wonder what Obamas approval rating with House and Senate Dems looks like? Seeing as he decided to wait to bring the AWB(an unmentionable during his first term) up until his job was safe, then ask the Democrats to stick their political necks out supporting it, I'm guessing their not too pleased.

If I was the house Majority leader, I would tell Obama we will approve any AWB they put on a table, as long as it requires a renewal vote in the Summer of 2016. Then we'll really see how much the Democrats care about the children.
 
2013-01-18 11:54:15 AM  
I wonder what the current public-approval ratings are for the Unification Church of the Rev. Sun Myung-Moon. I'll bet the "Moonies" and their cultish propaganda sheet are more popular than ice cream!
 
2013-01-18 11:58:01 AM  

HeadLever: If they diretly sell the gun to a known person that is not allowed to own guns or is knowingly engaging in a straw purchase, yep.


Of course, we need to modify this a little bit as some gun shops were directed to illeagly sell the firearms to known straw purchasers by the ATF. That will absolve them of any culpability in this regard. As for the ATF and from what I know now I belive that they should be held culpable. At a minimum they should be forced to turn over all the documents of the case as they once promised to do.

/What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
 
2013-01-18 11:59:54 AM  

HeadLever: HeadLever: If they diretly sell the gun to a known person that is not allowed to own guns or is knowingly engaging in a straw purchase, yep.

Of course, we need to modify this a little bit as some gun shops were directed to illeagly sell the firearms to known straw purchasers by the ATF. That will absolve them of any culpability in this regard. As for the ATF and from what I know now I belive that they should be held culpable. At a minimum they should be forced to turn over all the documents of the case as they once promised to do.

/What is good for the goose is good for the gander.


Should private sellers be required to take any measures to ensure that they are not selling to someone who can not legally posses a weapon?
 
2013-01-18 12:00:01 PM  
As for the gun thing. I really don't get what the obsession with them is. It's not like they're something actually cool. They just shoot bullets at stuff. It's not like they're a motorcycle, a muscle car, a surfboard, a snowboard, or anything that's actually cool. They're just guns.

On another note, has anybody else who has handled a fair number of firearms noticed that the grips are made for men with tiny hands? Nearly every one I've handled felt uncomfortably small and awkward. Desert Eagle's about the only one that seems to build guns for men with normal size hands.
 
2013-01-18 12:10:05 PM  
Maybe subby meant Bollywood... Still doesnt make any sense
 
2013-01-18 12:12:55 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg:
Should private sellers be required to take any measures to ensure that they are not selling to someone who can not legally posses a weapon?


That one is a little more tricky. Overall, I do belive that private sellers should be culpable if they knowingly sell to someone that is not allowed to own a gun or that will comit crimes with said gun. This is basically a straw purchase and is already against the law. Proving the 'knowingly' part is where the difficulty lies in this regard.

As for general private sales, I would not be against having all sales through an FFL so long as it was fast, efficient, and cheap. As with anything else, the process could be manipulated as to unduly prohibit most private sales. There would need to be safeguards against this.
 
2013-01-18 12:15:13 PM  
Forget Hollywood, the NRA's more popular than the Affirmative Action President:
Link
 
2013-01-18 12:16:17 PM  

Elvis Presleys Death Throne: If I was the house Majority leader, I would tell Obama we will approve any AWB they put on a table, as long as it requires a renewal vote in the Summer of 2016.


This is the dumbest thing I've heard all day, but it still has potential to be the smartest thing John Boehner does as speaker.
 
2013-01-18 12:18:14 PM  

LectertheChef: They just shoot bullets at stuff.


For many folks, it is not about just throwing lead downrange. Try a markmanship class sometime and see how challenging it can be. Go hang out at a benchrest shoot sometime and take a look around.

As with any other sport it is a challenge to become good. Some will like it and some don't.
 
2013-01-18 12:18:31 PM  

PanicMan: Seeing how Hollywood is a place and the NRA is a group, I don't see how you can compare them.


It's an industry, a tax payer subsidized industry.

Link
 
2013-01-18 12:26:16 PM  

LectertheChef: As for the gun thing. I really don't get what the obsession with them is. It's not like they're something actually cool. They just shoot bullets at stuff. It's not like they're a motorcycle, a muscle car, a surfboard, a snowboard, or anything that's actually cool. They're just guns.



I can tell by your post that you must have a perfectly adequate penis and have never spent any time stuffed in a locker.
 
2013-01-18 12:29:52 PM  

HeadLever: LectertheChef: They just shoot bullets at stuff.

For many folks, it is not about just throwing lead downrange. Try a markmanship class sometime and see how challenging it can be. Go hang out at a benchrest shoot sometime and take a look around.

As with any other sport it is a challenge to become good. Some will like it and some don't.



How often do you see people take pictures with their tennis rackets arrayed before them?

If gun-nuts displayed a similar regard for guns that other sportsmen display for nice equipment associated with their sport, I don't think they'd get the reputation they have.

There's very clearly a lot of compensating "look what a badass I am" machismo tied up in guns for the gun nuts.
 
2013-01-18 12:35:47 PM  
Is the Wash Times confusing "America" with its readership again?
 
2013-01-18 12:36:54 PM  
FTFH, "Bad news: public approval of the NRA has hit an all-time low. Good news: They are still more popular than HollywoodCongress"

There, fixed that for you, Subby.
 
2013-01-18 12:38:29 PM  

HeadLever: HotWingConspiracy:
If they want to get in to the business of admitting that guns kill people, I say go for it.

This issue is not about guns killing peole, but about bad people killing other people with guns. When you supply said bad people with guns, other folks are going to have some hard questions for you. The fact that they are covering the issue up does speak volumes as to they don't want this debacle to become a distraction to thier larger anti-gun agenda.


Covering the issue up? That's crazy talk:

Attorney General Eric Holder and his Department of Justice have asked a federal court to indefinitely delay a lawsuit brought by watchdog group Judicial Watch. The lawsuit seeks the enforcement of open records requests relating to Operation Fast and Furious, as required by law.

Indefinitely, it means exactly what you think it means, which is NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.
 
2013-01-18 12:40:37 PM  

HeadLever: LectertheChef: They just shoot bullets at stuff.

For many folks, it is not about just throwing lead downrange. Try a markmanship class sometime and see how challenging it can be. Go hang out at a benchrest shoot sometime and take a look around.

As with any other sport it is a challenge to become good. Some will like it and some don't.


Yeah, I've tried that. It's boring. More boring than golf.
 
2013-01-18 12:48:55 PM  
Hey Subby, I have a toaster oven, but I also like to wear shoes.

Suck it libs.
 
2013-01-18 12:58:47 PM  
I'm pretty sure that when conservatives mention 'Hollywood' as a group, they mean liberal Jews.
 
2013-01-18 01:04:29 PM  

Kludge: I'm pretty sure that when conservatives mention 'Hollywood' as a group, they mean liberal Jews.


I hear tell Jon Stewart's actual last name is Leibowitz Ben-Hur Spartacus Christkiller III. I was told the news in a fwd: fwd: Fwd: FWd: so I know it's got veracity.
 
2013-01-18 01:09:17 PM  
Bad news: public approval of tapeworms has hit an all-time low. Good news: They are still more popular than the Moonie Times.
 
2013-01-18 01:11:40 PM  

technicolor-misfit: How often do you see people take pictures with their tennis rackets arrayed before them?


every once in a while.

www.modelcar.hk

If gun-nuts displayed a similar regard for guns that other sportsmen display for nice equipment associated with their sport, I don't think they'd get the reputation they have.

Not sure. Biciycle racers love thier bikes, motocross racers love thier motorcycles, auto racers love their cars, skiiers live thier skis, why can't shooters love their firearms?

I really don't see where the difference is with the folks that I hang out with. If we can ooh and ahh over a Holly 4-barrel aluminum carb with manual choke or a Pivot Mach 5.7 Carbon with Rock Shox, Revelation World Cup Forks and the Answer Pro Taper handlebars, we can ohh and ahh over a BAT Model S action with a diamond fluted bolt. 28 Inch Kreiger#4 coutour barrel in 6 dasher with a Bruno McMillan Edge stock and Jewell 2oz. trigger and Nightforce Scope.
 
2013-01-18 01:12:36 PM  

Kludge: I'm pretty sure that when conservatives mention 'Hollywood' as a group, they mean liberal Jews.


What did you think they meant when they referred to the "mainstream media?"

It's all code words because they can't use phrases like "Jew York Times" anymore.
 
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