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(KSL Salt Lake City)   Law-abiding citizen carries rifle into department store, minds own business, fails to murder anyone. It might take some effort, but we can all still feel threatened and outraged   (ksl.com) divider line 637
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2013-01-18 08:10:36 AM  

Xenomech: Rifles are for longer range fire. You'd want a sub-machinegun or a combat shotgun if you're going toe-to-toe with baddies around tight corners in between the aisles of a department store.


I don't know, the US military thinks differently.
 
2013-01-18 08:12:34 AM  
I mean, I carry with me all the time.  Granted it's only a Walther PPQ; but this guy is just being a farking dick.

"My girlfriend said these size 20 panties don't fit her.  Ahem...I SAID, MY GIRLFRIEND BOUGHT THESE SIZE 20 PANTIES, AND THEY DON'T FIT HER.  DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?"
 
2013-01-18 08:12:48 AM  

Bladel: I wonder what would happen if two such asshats would target the same store on the same day for this stunt.

Would the immediately recognize each other as kindred souls?

Or more likely, would they both assume the other was coming for their gun, and turn the Food Court in to a 21st Century OK Coral?


Do you really believe that?
 
2013-01-18 08:14:13 AM  

moothemagiccow: Farkage: moothemagiccow: doglover: html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.

Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.

You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.

I bought a fire extinguisher with the intent of never using it. Is that the same as not having one too?

If there's a fire in your house, and you don't use it, yes. Someone shot the guy more than once, and he didn't pull the gun. I don't care if it was a pellet gun.


I had a grease fire in my kitchen and I put the lid on the frying pan to take care of it. should I get rid of my fire extinguisher becuse I have proven it isn't, and won't ever be needed?
 
2013-01-18 08:14:32 AM  

James F. Campbell: Tell me this, gun nuts: if an armed society is supposed to be a polite society, why are so many of you in this thread admitting that this guy is an asshole?


For one thing that is obviously a quote that is simply overused by idiots who are incapable of generating a rational argument with evidence and supporting points. Much like the farkwads who can't come up with anything more than small penis or Rambo references. The quote also implies that the entire society is armed rather than just one individual in a society that fears firearms.

While I would feel perfectly comfortable shopping at a store where someone has an AR-15 on their back, I am capable of understanding that many people are not. Unlike most of the farktards on this site who are incapable of observing the world through a different lens.

At this current time, in our country The United States of America, it is not culturally acceptable to walk around with an AR-15 on your back. Anyone who does walk around with an AR-15 on their back is obviously looking for attention and shock value. It pisses me off for the same reason that it pisses me off when Lady Gaga wears a meat suit. Nobody likes an attention whore. Which creates it's own MC Escher mindfark paradox problem. By consciously making the decision to not like an attention whore, we are giving them attention. Instead we should take a zen approach and clear our minds of thought completely when thinking about attention whores.
 
2013-01-18 08:14:34 AM  
To me it looks like this guy should be tazed and while he convulses on the floor take his guns from him.
 
2013-01-18 08:15:50 AM  
This thread was going well for longer than I expected, until the gay rights comparisons came up. Good job, some of you!
 
2013-01-18 08:16:32 AM  
Right wing fear identification chart

Not scary:

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Scary:

mije.org
 
2013-01-18 08:17:15 AM  

sethen320: Bladel: I wonder what would happen if two such asshats would target the same store on the same day for this stunt.

Would the immediately recognize each other as kindred souls?

Or more likely, would they both assume the other was coming for their gun, and turn the Food Court in to a 21st Century OK Coral?

Do you really believe that?


Yes, that's what they really believe. Personally, I think they need to quit judging everybody by what they see at the gay gang-bangs, but what are you going to do?
 
2013-01-18 08:18:43 AM  

numbquil: At this current time, in our country The United States of America, it is not culturally acceptable to walk around with an AR-15 on your back.


When and where has it ever been? You talk as if the US is the exception.
 
2013-01-18 08:19:14 AM  
OMG, that guy walked into a store with an ultra-killy, über-evil "weapon of war" and masses of people didn't spontaneously drop dead?

It's almost like people control their guns and are responsible for the method in which their used.
 
2013-01-18 08:20:11 AM  

moonscatter: This dude just doesn't understand tacky behavior. What woukd Miss Manners say?


His rifle color clashes with his shirt.
 
2013-01-18 08:20:45 AM  

This About That: Now, if his dick was hanging out, he would have been arrested.


#1) That has to be the best, most insightful comment on this in this thread.
#2) It goes to our essentially Puritan underpinning of 'Murica
#3) I know that for side arms, here in CT he could be charged with "Brandishing".

This is also an intelligent bit of insight- do not dismiss it-

FlashHarry: wow, what a farking little cowardly asshole!


If Odgen can't afford police then I'm all for carrying guns and ammunition. Must be an awful place if you need to carry weaponry into a JCP. I would never move there and I don't think you should either.
He is also a Serial Bed Wetter.
 
2013-01-18 08:21:02 AM  

TommyymmoT: cman: TommyymmoT: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(

Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.

Is that meant to be an insult?

Is claiming that someone likes GWB supposed to be akin to calling the Democratic Party as Democrat Party?

FYI, I really dont like him.

No, you just voted for him TWICE, as per your own admission, in bygone threads.
You are part of the problem, not the solution, because your ignorance, and gullibility knows no bounds.
You sure aren't shy about it though.
People like you, are maybe not so slowly, but certainly surely, destroying the Republican party.

You guys don't represent the voters of the future, you represent the pre-dead.
If people like you had a stock symbol, selling short would be the way to go.


Has it ever occurred to any of you that it doesn't matter who voted for who?

Keep playing Red vs. Blue if that's what makes you feel good, but don't go around insulting everyone else for doing the same. You're both idiots.
 
2013-01-18 08:21:10 AM  

numbquil: James F. Campbell: Tell me this, gun nuts: if an armed society is supposed to be a polite society, why are so many of you in this thread admitting that this guy is an asshole?

For one thing that is obviously a quote that is simply overused by idiots who are incapable of generating a rational argument with evidence and supporting points. Much like the farkwads who can't come up with anything more than small penis or Rambo references. The quote also implies that the entire society is armed rather than just one individual in a society that fears firearms.

While I would feel perfectly comfortable shopping at a store where someone has an AR-15 on their back, I am capable of understanding that many people are not. Unlike most of the farktards on this site who are incapable of observing the world through a different lens.

At this current time, in our country The United States of America, it is not culturally acceptable to walk around with an AR-15 on your back. Anyone who does walk around with an AR-15 on their back is obviously looking for attention and shock value. It pisses me off for the same reason that it pisses me off when Lady Gaga wears a meat suit. Nobody likes an attention whore. Which creates it's own MC Escher mindfark paradox problem. By consciously making the decision to not like an attention whore, we are giving them attention. Instead we should take a zen approach and clear our minds of thought completely when thinking about attention whores.


I stand by my opinion.
 
2013-01-18 08:22:02 AM  

hinten: muck4doo: Have a flashlight in your house? You scared of the dark, pussy?

Lighting a room is the same as shooting a human being.


Who told you that? Being unprepared is being unprepared. But you go ahead and trust the government to get that flashlight for you.
 
2013-01-18 08:22:07 AM  

Elvis Presleys Death Throne: It's almost like people control their guns and are responsible for the method in which their used.


Until they decide it's killing time, anyway.
 
2013-01-18 08:22:28 AM  

mamoru: Brontes: Will our next cause be to ban all fatty foods because heart disease kills 60 times as many people as gun homicides?

When the fatty foods that I eat kill others instead of just killing me, then perhaps we can consider it. If people only used guns for suicide, then perhaps that way the problem might be comparable, too.

Otherwise, false comparison is false.


A fat person tripped and fell into me tearing my acl. Being fat is not a victimless crime.
 
2013-01-18 08:22:29 AM  

zerkalo: 22. High and tight haircut. AR-15 strapped. And you're not overseas serving your country, why?

somethings shoot back


THIS! I recently bought a copy of "Shotgun News" for the first time in a dozen years or so. I immediately noticed that the advertising centered around middle-aged men carrying AR-15s with a bunch of crap strapped to the rails (sporting guns?). The defining feature was that nearly every one had that same haircut, and was dressed in some sort of OD uniform, some with helmets and utility belts. The kicker was that several were wearing headsets (to communicate with other Real Patriots?).

Assuming that the ad writers know their market, this magazine made me feel uneasy about the mental health of its readership. Are all gun owners "coming out" and living their GI Joe fantasies? Combined with the number of morans who are suddenly feeling the need to pack rifles when they buy milk, I think it might be so.

/What kind of coward pussy does this?
 
2013-01-18 08:24:30 AM  
BLRBMAGARBMANARBLE ASSAULT RIFFLE!!!!!

OOOHH it has a PISTOL GRIP IT'S GOING TO KILL US ALL!!

MOAR LAWS!! MOAR LAWS!!

We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

Actually....Utah. STFU haters and crawl back into your holes.
Utah = good gun laws.

Not the murder capital of anything, actually one of the safest states in the nation.
HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE!! Thar are BLACK guns in UTAH!!

The biggest problem we have here is the gangbangers overflowing the Rectopia of Kalifornia.

Keep your crappy laws, your tree huggers and your gangbangers.
 
2013-01-18 08:24:54 AM  
We get it! The guns are black!!!
 
2013-01-18 08:25:14 AM  
Has anybody mentioned that this picture depicts poor muzzle control? Because this picture depicts poor muzzle control. Adjust your shoulder strap, Pudgy, and quit pointing that thing at the dude next you at the counter.

Also, as I live in an open carry state, I'm used to seeing people carrying around a handgun. Hell, sometimes I carry around a handgun (in the woods, at the gas station on the way to the range, you know, places where that's reasonable), but carrying around a rifle of any sort like this in a department store is just douchebaggery. If the point you're trying to make is that you're a sensationalist, attention whore ass hat, well congrats, you've succeeded. If your point is anything other than that, you probably did more harm than good to your cause.
 
2013-01-18 08:25:37 AM  

TheEdibleSnuggie: I mean, I carry with me all the time.  Granted it's only a Walther PPQ; but this guy is just being a farking dick.

"My girlfriend said these size 20 panties don't fit her.  Ahem...I SAID, MY GIRLFRIEND BOUGHT THESE SIZE 20 PANTIES, AND THEY DON'T FIT HER.  DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?"


CSB

I live in West Chester, PA about 30 mins from Philadelphia. My wife went to Best Buy a town over about a week ago to pick up an iPad mini. So she goes in, gets the iPad, and starts discussing service plans with the salesguy to talk protection plans because my wife is not exactly easy on portable electronics. So as they're talking, in walks a dude open carrying a handgun. Walks over the the counter and plops an iPad with an obvious bullet hole through it down and says "I have the protection plan. I'd like a new iPad". Upon seeing the gun, the salesguy dealing with my wife calmly moved her over a few places on the counter while another associate called the cops and then dealt with the dude with the gun. My wife said the guy carrying was very calm and very polite, but according to the salesguy they had a dude come in open carrying a few weeks prior to that who was irate and making a bunch of demands, so they were being very cautious as a result. Wife stuck around long enough to overhear that the Best Buy protection plan doesn't cover bullet holes and that he wouldn't be getting a new iPad. She didn't get to stick around to see how he handled the police.

/CSB
 
2013-01-18 08:26:36 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: It's almost like people control their guns and are responsible for the method in which their used.

Until they decide it's killing time, anyway.


lulz. That's what they are all doing. Just waiting to kill you.

Door: knock knock
HWC: Nooooo!
Door: Gun
HWC: Nooooo! Leave me alone! I don't wanna die! Wait for me to call the cops. The government is here for my protection
Door: hold on, i need someone who gives a rats ass about you to pull the trigger
HWC: OMFG!!!!
 
2013-01-18 08:26:54 AM  

fusillade762: Between him and these nitwits

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Seriously guys, you're not helping your cause.


In a way they are helping. They're forcing many people to reveal their true feelings about the subject, that their goal isn't the eradication of gun violence, but the eradication of guns themselves.
 
2013-01-18 08:27:15 AM  

Farce-Side: Has anybody mentioned that this picture depicts poor muzzle control? Because this picture depicts poor muzzle control. Adjust your shoulder strap, Pudgy, and quit pointing that thing at the dude next you at the counter.



Same thing I said. He is going to shoot someone's nuts off.
 
2013-01-18 08:28:08 AM  

computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!


I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.
 
2013-01-18 08:30:28 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.


I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.
 
2013-01-18 08:31:24 AM  

2 grams: We get it! The guns are black!!!


Well done.
 
2013-01-18 08:31:45 AM  

Blink: I wonder if it would make all these gun nuts nervous if I walked into a store with an open-topped vat of molten rock (wearing protective gear, of course) and pretended as though I had shaky balance as I got into line right behind them at the cashier.

/law-abiding citizen
//I just like doing chemistry
///time and place


Go for it. We live in a nation where you are free to do as you wish so long as it does not harm someone else. I can carry my goddamn rifle around with me, and unless prohibited by law, or I actively engage in hurting someone with it, I'm perfectly free to do so.
 
2013-01-18 08:31:47 AM  

doglover: Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.


All of this training being taken into account, a gun really seems to be a dubious weapon for self-defense. If you're never going to draw on someone you don't intend to kill, and you're never going to use the weapon preemptively, or against a less deadly form of assault, it seems to me that you're employing a policy of relinquishing the initiative against a weapon that overwhelmingly stacks the odds in favor of the aggressor.

At least if someone is going to attack you with a sword, you have a few tempos to adopt a defensive posture while they draw and close the distance. Statistically, a gun is roughly equivalent to a knife in a surprise 21-foot drill (give or take a few feet). Against a firearm, it would seem that the only high-percentage options would be conflict avoidance techniques, in which case why do you need the weapon at all?

The only place I can see a firearm being useful in (other than home defense) are group situations like mass shootings and large robberies, where the assailant is unaware that you're carrying. Open carry just marks you as a primary target, so that's out. And is it really worth it to spend hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars preparing for the extremely unlikely scenario where having a gun might help you save a few lives, but also greatly increases your risk of getting killed in a confrontation?

I wholeheartedly support people owning a shotgun or rifle for home defense, especially if they live in an isolated area. The more I consider the prospect of carrying a handgun for defense, the less it seems like a good idea, tactically. Far too much liability for way too little payoff. I'd rather have a knife, and a small one that I can hide in my hand at that. I think it would be far more useful in the kinds of situations that a person is most likely to encounter.
 
2013-01-18 08:32:16 AM  

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: It's almost like people control their guns and are responsible for the method in which their used.

Until they decide it's killing time, anyway.

lulz. That's what they are all doing. Just waiting to kill you.

Door: knock knock
HWC: Nooooo!
Door: Gun
HWC: Nooooo! Leave me alone! I don't wanna die! Wait for me to call the cops. The government is here for my protection
Door: hold on, i need someone who gives a rats ass about you to pull the trigger
HWC: OMFG!!!!


cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com


That's just silly, why go door to door when there are turkey shoots all over town?


That's your hero James Holmes. You know, the responsible legal gun owner that decided he didn't want to be responsible anymore. His real problem seems to be that he hasn't come out and said he did it for freedom. Then he would be revered like your other hero, Tim McVeigh.
 
2013-01-18 08:33:02 AM  

ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]


Wait wait... you're supposed to have a REASON to drink?

/did anyone get hurt? Nope.
//Even an idiot with a gun can be nice and not crazy.
///sanity is still debatable for -this- piece of hardware.
 
2013-01-18 08:34:13 AM  

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.


I can leave my house with no weapons, pussy.
 
2013-01-18 08:34:20 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: It's almost like people control their guns and are responsible for the method in which their used.

Until they decide it's killing time, anyway.

lulz. That's what they are all doing. Just waiting to kill you.

Door: knock knock
HWC: Nooooo!
Door: Gun
HWC: Nooooo! Leave me alone! I don't wanna die! Wait for me to call the cops. The government is here for my protection
Door: hold on, i need someone who gives a rats ass about you to pull the trigger
HWC: OMFG!!!!

[cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com image 300x315]


That's just silly, why go door to door when there are turkey shoots all over town?

That's your hero James Holmes. You know, the responsible legal gun owner that decided he didn't want to be responsible anymore. His real problem seems to be that he hasn't come out and said he did it for freedom. Then he would be revered like your other hero, Tim McVeigh.


Door: knock knock
HWC: Oh noooo! It's james holmes call the cops! They will save me!
Door: You're farking dumber than my knob.
 
2013-01-18 08:34:56 AM  
It might take some effort, but we can all still feel threatened and outraged

If you need a high powered rifle to protect yourself while shopping, then yes, you definitely feel threatened.
 
2013-01-18 08:35:02 AM  

keylock71: "Look everyone!! My guns are fashion accessories!!"

People like this guy in the story just sound like a bunch of chicken shiat wannabe tough guys.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 470x616]

"Honey? I'm going to Walmart... They're having a sale on fudge cake. Need me to pick you up same tampons?"


"Shotgun News" reader?
 
2013-01-18 08:35:28 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.


Which is worse, the person who carries a gun around and does not harm anyone, or the ones that want to ban a shotgun just because it has a pistol grip?
 
2013-01-18 08:36:46 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: It's almost like people control their guns and are responsible for the method in which their used.

Until they decide it's killing time, anyway.

lulz. That's what they are all doing. Just waiting to kill you.

Door: knock knock
HWC: Nooooo!
Door: Gun
HWC: Nooooo! Leave me alone! I don't wanna die! Wait for me to call the cops. The government is here for my protection
Door: hold on, i need someone who gives a rats ass about you to pull the trigger
HWC: OMFG!!!!

[cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com image 300x315]


That's just silly, why go door to door when there are turkey shoots all over town?

That's your hero James Holmes. You know, the responsible legal gun owner that decided he didn't want to be responsible anymore. His real problem seems to be that he hasn't come out and said he did it for freedom. Then he would be revered like your other hero, Tim McVeigh.


Do you suffer from constant nosebleeds? Does it ever hurt?
 
2013-01-18 08:37:20 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.

I can leave my house with no weapons, pussy.


No you can't. You're hoping the government weapons are there to protect you from other people that might have them. You also hope that your government savior can take away any weapons from all the scary people who live in the world. You are the biggest pussy of them all. Scary gun says BOO!
 
2013-01-18 08:38:22 AM  

loser0: way south: Deep Contact: Imagine the terror if he lit up a smoke too.

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That cop -- he has no gun


Funny thing is they invented the game back when anyone could get a gun but no one needed them.

/"Something's rotten in the state of Denmark..."
 
2013-01-18 08:39:13 AM  

I live in Virginia, about as Gun nutty a state as exists, and here are the rules:


OC is the act of carrying a firearm (mostly handguns however rifles and shotguns may be OC'd) in plain sight on your person while conducting your daily business. This normally means a handgun secured in a holster on the outside of your clothing much the same way a police officer would carry their weapon. Alternative options would be a shoulder holster, "in the waistband" holster (providing your shirt is tucked in exposing the butt of the handgun) and tactical / drop leg holsters. "In the waistband" holsters are not considered "concealed" under VA law since about 1/3 of the firearm (the butt) is exposed (See example pictures below). Just take care not to let your shirt come un-tucked and cover the firearm if you are not in possession of a CHP. Carrying a firearm in your hands, whether handgun or long gun is not OC! That is considered "brandishing" and it's against the law. The proper way to OC a rifle or shotgun is with a sling, however OC'ing a rifle or shotgun around town is not common and will likely merit you a visit from the police, possibly with guns drawn on you.

source

 
2013-01-18 08:39:44 AM  
I am a gun owner. I've had a concealed carry--though I don't have one today, because I don't need one--and I used to be a bouncer. That is just background information though. What I learned over the years was that you don't carry a loaded weapon, especially in public, without good reason.

When I was bouncing, I didn't carry, because in a shuffle, you don't want to lose a loaded weapon, not in a crowded club. Even when hunting, I don't load a weapon, until I actually get to the area where I intend to hunt, because of the chance of accidental discharge. Even with a safety on, the best way to prevent accidents with a weapon, even if you are alone or somewhere remote, is to simply not have it loaded. Trip and fall, sudden stop, crash, whatever, things can happen. You reduce that chance by simply removing the possibility of the weapon firing. In amongst people, a LOT can go wrong, and carrying a loaded weapon in public is not the brightest thing. People can grab the weapon, all sorts of things can go wrong. When I did carry, it was because I was dropping off deposits, and it was in Boston, and near the Combat Zone, and I'm glad I did carry, because those were sort of wild and wooly days, and thankfully, I never had fire at people, and never even had to draw on someone. I was mugged when carrying, by a guy with a knife, and the $75 in my wallet wasn't worth shooting someone over, and in the situation, I never felt that I was in danger if I just cooperated--guess I got lucky that I was mugged by a professional, because he even let me keep the wallet.

While I was bouncing, we were offered stun guns, and pepper spray, and as a team we refused, because when you carry a weapon, you have to think of the environment. Pepper spray is sort of indiscriminate, and gassing patrons who aren't involved in a dust up is a bad idea. And dangerous, if someone has respiratory problems or asthma or the like. Stun guns and tasers can be taken, and used on you or someone else, and that is a recipe for disaster. A gun, in a crowded club is even more so.

I am a gun owner. I like to squeeze off rounds for practice, I like hunting. Shooting is a practical skill, but you have to be responsible with a weapon. Not just for yourself, but those around you. When I was carrying, because I was in a city, I loaded Glaser rounds, because IF I had to shoot, I didn't want to put folks in nearby buildings in danger if I missed. Nothing ruins someone's day like sitting in your living room, and having a round slam into you through a wall or door. You have to think before you carry. Not just carry for kicks, because when you have a tool with you, you carry what you need. You carry a weapon, you have a responsibility not just yourself, but to those around you, because very quickly, folks around you can get brought into a mess if you get into trouble. That means you think about what you need, and the needs of those around you. Carrying, just because, that works for off duty cops. They may need a weapon, and quickly. For security personnel, you have to be careful of those around you, and weigh the options and needs. For a private citizen, you have to be even MOAR careful, because you aren't an officer. You may want to carry in some neighborhoods, on some business, but carrying to a Little League game only increases the risk to those around you--because accidents do happen, and they happen to folks who are careless. Carrying without good reason is an invitation for disaster, and you wander through thick brush and unsure footing with a loaded weapon, you can blow a hole in a tree, but doing in an area that is even thinly populated puts folks at risk. You have to be smart with a weapon, and you have to think.

I am all for the right to bear arms. I have carried in the past, and I'd do it again, easily, but only under the right circumstances, because as a responsible gun owner, I understand that having a loaded weapon IS a responsibility, not just a right. Rights and responsibilities go together, and the exercise of one without the other is asinine.
 
2013-01-18 08:40:14 AM  

Farkage: moothemagiccow: Farkage: moothemagiccow: doglover: html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.

Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.

You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.

I bought a fire extinguisher with the intent of never using it. Is that the same as not having one too?

If there's a fire in your house, and you don't use it, yes. Someone shot the guy more than once, and he didn't pull the gun. I don't care if it was a pellet gun.

I had a grease fire in my kitchen and I put the lid on the frying pan to take care of it. should I get rid of my fire extinguisher becuse I have proven it isn't, and won't ever be needed?


I guess not, since fire is a real thing that can kill you, your family and neighbors, as opposed to whatever boogieman a gun is supposed to protect you from.
 
2013-01-18 08:41:20 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: *head desk*


He kinda has a point, though if you think about it.

Farkage: I bought a fire extinguisher with the intent of never using it. Is that the same as not having one too?


Do you take your fire extinguisher to the mall with you?

way south: Betting your life there isn't one in the chamber?


This is silly. Are you saying that if someone with the initiative, malicious intent, and a concealed handgun draws on an unsuspecting person with a rifle slung over his back, the two are somehow on equal tactical footing because there's one round in the rifle's chamber? That AR-15 is worse than useless.
 
2013-01-18 08:42:37 AM  

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.

I can leave my house with no weapons, pussy.

No you can't. You're hoping the government weapons are there to protect you from other people that might have them.


No I'm not. I'm not afraid of the world, you are. I don't even lock my door at night. You own weapons to pretend like you're in control. You're a sad little man who at the very least recognizes how small he is. How often did you get beat up in school? This level of paranoia comes from somewhere.

You also hope that your government savior can take away any weapons from all the scary people who live in the world. You are the biggest pussy of them all. Scary gun says BOO!

One day they will, and you won't do anything about it, because you're a pussy.
 
2013-01-18 08:42:44 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: In a way they are helping. They're forcing many people to reveal their true feelings about the subject, that their goal isn't the eradication of gun violence, but the eradication of guns themselves.


This is what they actually believe.
 
2013-01-18 08:42:50 AM  
Oh no wait, the gun is actually more likely to kill you, your family, or your neighbors than the boogieman or the fire. Imagine that.
 
2013-01-18 08:44:18 AM  

People_are_Idiots: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

Which is worse, the person who carries a gun around and does not harm anyone, or the ones that want to ban a shotgun just because it has a pistol grip?


I don't really understand what scale is being applied here.
 
2013-01-18 08:45:27 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.

I can leave my house with no weapons, pussy.

No you can't. You're hoping the government weapons are there to protect you from other people that might have them.

No I'm not. I'm not afraid of the world, you are. I don't even lock my door at night. You own weapons to pretend like you're in control. You're a sad little man who at the very least recognizes how small he is. How often did you get beat up in school? This level of paranoia comes from somewhere.

You also hope that your government savior can take away any weapons from all the scary people who live in the world. You are the biggest pussy of them all. Scary gun says BOO!

One day they will, and you won't do anything about it, because you're a pussy.


LOL! If you lived in the caveman days you would have protested the power of fire. Such a sad little scared man you are.

/The gun says BOO!
 
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