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(KSL Salt Lake City)   Law-abiding citizen carries rifle into department store, minds own business, fails to murder anyone. It might take some effort, but we can all still feel threatened and outraged   (ksl.com) divider line 635
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2013-01-18 07:11:39 AM  

Fubini: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Do you get the vapors when you see police with service pistols?


Not the same thing.
 
2013-01-18 07:12:03 AM  

betelgeux: I am a gun owner, a recreational shooter, and a supporter of responsible gun owners. This guy is an jackass attention whore, by his own admission. This taking place in Ogden, Utah is probably why it wasn't blown into a big deal.

CSB, I was in BK one Sunday afternoon and some fugitive recovery types showed up, badges hanging around their necks, thigh holsters, they paraded around the BK letting everybody know they were packing. I finished my meal and left, not afraid of the fire arms, but I was certainly not wanting to be in an environment where those hillbillies felt they had to flaunt their firepower.



You say that as if that's an actual thing.
 
2013-01-18 07:16:12 AM  
"Look everyone!! My guns are fashion accessories!!"

People like this guy in the story just sound like a bunch of chicken shiat wannabe tough guys.

3.bp.blogspot.com

"Honey? I'm going to Walmart... They're having a sale on fudge cake. Need me to pick you up same tampons?"
 
2013-01-18 07:23:35 AM  

numbquil: GAT_00: Fark Me To Tears: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Actually, it indicates that the people carrying the rifles take themselves and their role in society way too seriously.  This is what happens when they run too many trailer trash-based "reality" shows on cable TV.

You don't carry a farking rifle around unless you want an excuse to use it.

You continue to show that you are a moran. It's obvious the guy is not looking for an excuse to use it. He is carrying it around to make a political statement and it's in bad taste especially in light of recent events.




Well, considering that the main recent memories of people going into public buildings carrying AR-variants ended in dozens dead, I would say this moron is lucky someone didn't pull our their CCW and plug him before he could get into the store.
 
2013-01-18 07:24:41 AM  
One of the great things abouot not living in the past, say, the old west, is that we have a realtively stale society and not everyone is required to carry a gun (or sword) at all times for protection.

Given that, carrying a gun into a place that does not normally have them will be out of the place. It is far more common to see a gun in a store when it is being robbed or someone is shooting than just because someone is 'exercising their rights.' It is intimidating,it scares the other shoppers who do not know your intent, it scares the employee who has to contradict you in regards to store policy, and it scares the police because they will be getting calls. The point is, people do not know if you are nut who wants to rob the store or worse, hurt people. Or if you are just a nut who feels that American exceptionalism and nationalistic pride are a replacement for intelligence and allows you to carry weapons into peaceful locations. Your intent is not know, and you are scaring the daylights out of normal people.
 
2013-01-18 07:29:41 AM  
Tell me this, gun nuts: if an armed society is supposed to be a polite society, why are so many of you in this thread admitting that this guy is an asshole?
 
2013-01-18 07:30:26 AM  

Jaws_Victim: One of the great things abouot not living in the past, say, the old west, is that we have a realtively stale society and not everyone is required to carry a gun (or sword) at all times for protection.

Given that, carrying a gun into a place that does not normally have them will be out of the place. It is far more common to see a gun in a store when it is being robbed or someone is shooting than just because someone is 'exercising their rights.' It is intimidating,it scares the other shoppers who do not know your intent, it scares the employee who has to contradict you in regards to store policy, and it scares the police because they will be getting calls. The point is, people do not know if you are nut who wants to rob the store or worse, hurt people. Or if you are just a nut who feels that American exceptionalism and nationalistic pride are a replacement for intelligence and allows you to carry weapons into peaceful locations. Your intent is not know, and you are scaring the daylights out of normal people.


Wrote that on an ipad. So theres a million mistakes. Stable society.
 
2013-01-18 07:31:07 AM  

James F. Campbell: Tell me this, gun nuts: if an armed society is supposed to be a polite society, why are so many of you in this thread admitting that this guy is an asshole?


Well, there is a difference between "armed" and "LOOK AT ME AND MY SLUNG AR IN JCPENNY MERRRRRICA' fark YEAH! 2ND AMNNNNDMNT RIYYYGHTS GIMME A LIP OF COPE AND GIT R DONE."
 
2013-01-18 07:31:35 AM  
No, it takes no effort at all. 20 days in county and a year's probation for brandishing a firearm.
 
2013-01-18 07:32:39 AM  

daveUSMC: Well, there is a difference between "armed" and "LOOK AT ME AND MY SLUNG AR IN JCPENNY MERRRRRICA' fark YEAH! 2ND AMNNNNDMNT RIYYYGHTS GIMME A LIP OF COPE AND GIT R DONE."


So what you're saying is that it's not the gun that makes the difference.
 
2013-01-18 07:33:39 AM  

Lorelle: violentsalvation: I see people in stores with pistols on their belts fairly often and unless they look like they just got off a horse and are looking for new Levis I usually think ATTENTION WHORE.

Yup. This one's just another "AH GOTS A GUN! LOOKIT MAH GUN!" jerk.


No worse than a hipster with an ipad, a preppy with his Oakleys perched in his messed-style hair, prada purses, old women with blue hair etc.

i306.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-18 07:34:58 AM  
I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.
 
2013-01-18 07:36:28 AM  

brap: I'd like to return this thong.  It is stained.

I SAID I WOULD LIKE TO RETURN THIS THONG. IT IS STAINED!  DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?

I didn't think so.


lulz
 
2013-01-18 07:37:07 AM  
As a gun owner, I have many many issues with this moron. The biggest might be the number of gun safety rules he is violating in one picture. Look at his barrel discipline (or lack there of). He is about to shoot the nuts/knees off some poor idiot standing next to him.

Even as a gun owner, and one that does conceal carry from time to time, I would have called the cops because he is being fundamentally unsafe and I wouldn't not trust this genius to take constructive criticism well.
 
2013-01-18 07:39:39 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: crab66: If you feel the need to carry a rifle while you shop you are not a Real American defending our freedoms.


You are a giant farking paranoid asshole with a small penis who is trying to show how tough you are.

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/please continue...


Please stop repeating this lie. A few of us actually do understand Freud.

In General Introduction to Psychoanalysis , Freud wrote, "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity"

Freud is specifically making reference to the male phallus with his use of the word "weapon", as his Tenth Lecture on the subject of dreams labels swords, sabers, pistols and rifles as symbols of the male gentalia. A fear of a weapon, in a dream, mind you, simply suggests a neurosis towards the male phallus. For instance, if a female were to have a dream in which a man with a gun startled her, it would point towards an innate fear of sex, and perhaps lead to the discovery of said fear.

The quote has nothing to do with firearms. It is merely a comment on dreams and symbolism.

As far as sexual maturity, he basically proposed humans as sexual beings from birth, and that along with the body, ones sexuality matures as well. Except many people get stuck at a developmental stage of sexuality rather than continue to mature.

Freud decided pretty much everything was about sex. But he also had a nasty coke habit too so, you might want to take his ideas with a grain of salt. Almost all of his theories are regarded as wrong these days anyway.


Also...

Fark just after 9/11 - "After an emotional tragedy rushing to enact legislation that infringes on our rights but does little to nothing to actually keep us safe is wrong. The odds of being killed in a terrorist attack are incredibly low."

Fark now - "In the wake of such an emotional tragedy we must rush to enact legislation that infringes on the rights of legal gun owners but does little to nothing to actually keep us safe. Despite the odds of being killed in a mass shooting are incredibly low.."

The selective application of outrage over the erosion of constitutional rights is hypocritical. I know, welcome to fark.

/ I am in no way suggesting the guy in TFA is anything but a giant paranoid a-hole. I won't speculate about the size of his penis
// If you see a Guy with a rifle in public don't take any chances. Run away and call the cops!
 
2013-01-18 07:40:13 AM  
Well it sounds like he does this for attention but looks like the authorities realized he's not going to cause issues so they did nothing.

Is it smart? No, but a weapon slung over someone's back is a pretty sure sign that they're not going to use it. If he ran in screaming and pointing it at people then yea that's bad.
 
2013-01-18 07:41:18 AM  

html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.


Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.
 
2013-01-18 07:43:35 AM  

doglover: Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.


Yes -- and if stories like that weren't the exception, they wouldn't be newsworthy, now would they?
 
2013-01-18 07:46:46 AM  
I own firearms, even the "evil" ones currently on the Democratic Hit List......but this guy is an attention whore plain and simple. There is absolutely no need to "train the public" to get used to Open Carry in a JC Penney's. While I agree that educating the general public to positive benefits of firearm ownership is a goal that should be attained, the "Shock" approach demonstrated here isn't helping our cause at all. Now these people aren't thinking "Hey that guy is standing up for his 2nd amendment right, what a good guy!", NO now they are thinking "Hey what is wrong with that gun nut? why does he have an "assault rifle" in JC Penney's? He's crazy".
 
2013-01-18 07:47:20 AM  
Someone didn't get enough attention from his dad.

It's ok buddy.
 
2013-01-18 07:48:42 AM  

TommyymmoT: You must have to be a complete pussy to feel the need to carry a rifle just to go buy socks.


I think there are a lot of gun owners who live in a perpetual state of fear,,,,kind of sad. They make the sane normal ones look bad.
 
2013-01-18 07:50:27 AM  

Pfactor: Did you get into a car with a completely unnecessary v8 engine? That implies you're gonna go street racing or will gleefully run down some school children.


Speeding is illegal
 
2013-01-18 07:51:30 AM  

doglover: html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.

Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.


You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.
 
2013-01-18 07:52:29 AM  
Wow, he must have a really tiny penis.
 
2013-01-18 07:52:44 AM  

moothemagiccow: You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.


*head desk*
 
2013-01-18 07:53:05 AM  

NephilimNexus: I don't see the problem. I see untrained civilians with minimal-to-zero firearms experience open carrying handguns all the time...

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... and don't even get me tarted on their "gun as penis" psychological profile. The only difference between this guy accidentally shooting you & some vigilante doing the same is the vigilante will actually get in trouble for it.


You'd be surprised how little firearms training police have! I shoot competitively and so far in 6 years I've never been beaten by a cop, but I've been beaten a lot by a lot of regular civilians. Anyhow, all I really wanted to impart here was - you'd be surprised how little firearms training police have. Their job is not be a firearms expert, their job is prevent and investigate crime. Most cops that I know, never pulled their weapon in 20 years.
 
2013-01-18 07:55:10 AM  

moothemagiccow: doglover: html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.

Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.

You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.


I bought a fire extinguisher with the intent of never using it. Is that the same as not having one too?
 
2013-01-18 07:55:18 AM  
I bet Gat thinks he was there looking for him
 
2013-01-18 07:55:32 AM  

illannoyin: Fark just after 9/11 - "After an emotional tragedy rushing to enact legislation that infringes on our rights but does little to nothing to actually keep us safe is wrong. The odds of being killed in a terrorist attack are incredibly low."

Fark now - "In the wake of such an emotional tragedy we must rush to enact legislation that infringes on the rights of legal gun owners but does little to nothing to actually keep us safe. Despite the odds of being killed in a mass shooting are incredibly low.."

The selective application of outrage over the erosion of constitutional rights is hypocritical. I know, welcome to fark.


That explains why the 4th amendment is dead and the 2nd amendment is going strong.
 
2013-01-18 07:56:43 AM  

Farkage: moothemagiccow: doglover: html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.

Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.

You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.

I bought a fire extinguisher with the intent of never using it. Is that the same as not having one too?


Only pussies have fire extinguishers

/That's fark thinking for you
 
2013-01-18 07:57:07 AM  

Farkage: moothemagiccow: doglover: html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.

Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.

You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.

I bought a fire extinguisher with the intent of never using it. Is that the same as not having one too?


If there's a fire in your house, and you don't use it, yes. Someone shot the guy more than once, and he didn't pull the gun. I don't care if it was a pellet gun.
 
2013-01-18 07:57:58 AM  
Have a flashlight in your house? You scared of the dark, pussy?
 
2013-01-18 07:58:22 AM  
If I was a bad man with a firearm, and knowing the Open Carry laws, if I'm in a State where open carrying is legal as long as the weapon is unloaded, I would soooooo be scoring me a free AR.
 
2013-01-18 07:58:34 AM  

TommyymmoT: BunkoSquad: Oh God, it wasn't a Black Panther, was it?

Or....well, a Black anything?

If he were black, the SWAT team would have mowed him down just on spec.
I mean a black man, with a rifle, in a mall, in UTAH?


No, the only black person in Utah lives down the street from me and I think he was home that day...
 
2013-01-18 07:59:54 AM  
Open carry is fine in many places, unless you are CA and see scary black men doing so. Then you ban it for everyone.
 
2013-01-18 08:00:15 AM  
What an idiot. Who brings a rifle into a close-quarters combat zone?
 
2013-01-18 08:02:08 AM  
TommyymmoT

BunkoSquad: Oh God, it wasn't a Black Panther, was it?

Or....well, a Black anything?

If he were black, the SWAT team would have mowed him down just on spec.
I mean a black man, with a rifle, in a mall, in UTAH?



Nah, "hello Mr. Malone, how can I help you today"
 
2013-01-18 08:02:42 AM  

computerguyUT: No, the only black person in Utah lives down the street from me and I think he was home that day...


lulz

Xenomech: What an idiot. Who brings a rifle into a close-quarters combat zone?


Say whaaaa?
 
2013-01-18 08:03:09 AM  
Imagine the terror if he lit up a smoke too.
 
2013-01-18 08:03:17 AM  

Dadoody: If I was a bad man with a firearm, and knowing the Open Carry laws, if I'm in a State where open carrying is legal as long as the weapon is unloaded, I would soooooo be scoring me a free AR.


Betting your life there isn't one in the chamber?

/Of course there isn't.
/No one (else) would ever break the law...
 
2013-01-18 08:04:36 AM  
I wonder if it would make all these gun nuts nervous if I walked into a store with an open-topped vat of molten rock (wearing protective gear, of course) and pretended as though I had shaky balance as I got into line right behind them at the cashier.

/law-abiding citizen
//I just like doing chemistry
///time and place
 
2013-01-18 08:05:57 AM  

Deep Contact: Imagine the terror if he lit up a smoke too.


dl.dropbox.com
 
2013-01-18 08:06:44 AM  

muck4doo: Have a flashlight in your house? You scared of the dark, pussy?


Lighting a room is the same as shooting a human being.
 
2013-01-18 08:06:48 AM  

way south: Deep Contact: Imagine the terror if he lit up a smoke too.

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That cop -- he has no gun
 
2013-01-18 08:06:56 AM  
Even in the "Wild West", which in most cases was much less wild then we have been led to think it was, open carry was often prohibited in bars and establishments, and even entire towns.
 
2013-01-18 08:07:53 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Xenomech: What an idiot. Who brings a rifle into a close-quarters combat zone?

Say whaaaa?


Rifles are for longer range fire. You'd want a sub-machinegun or a combat shotgun if you're going toe-to-toe with baddies around tight corners in between the aisles of a department store.
 
2013-01-18 08:09:00 AM  

loser0: way south: Deep Contact: Imagine the terror if he lit up a smoke too.

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That cop -- he has no gun


He's also arresting a rich guy, so the whole thing is off.
 
2013-01-18 08:10:04 AM  
wow, what a farking little cowardly asshole!
 
2013-01-18 08:10:36 AM  

Xenomech: Rifles are for longer range fire. You'd want a sub-machinegun or a combat shotgun if you're going toe-to-toe with baddies around tight corners in between the aisles of a department store.


I don't know, the US military thinks differently.
 
2013-01-18 08:12:34 AM  
I mean, I carry with me all the time.  Granted it's only a Walther PPQ; but this guy is just being a farking dick.

"My girlfriend said these size 20 panties don't fit her.  Ahem...I SAID, MY GIRLFRIEND BOUGHT THESE SIZE 20 PANTIES, AND THEY DON'T FIT HER.  DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?"
 
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