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(KSL Salt Lake City)   Law-abiding citizen carries rifle into department store, minds own business, fails to murder anyone. It might take some effort, but we can all still feel threatened and outraged   (ksl.com) divider line 637
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2013-01-18 04:04:52 AM

ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.


Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(
 
2013-01-18 04:06:32 AM

cman: So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?


You don't have the right to openly carry a loaded rifle in the mall.
This dickhead was "exercising" the tacit permission of the owner of the store (which could be rescinded at any time, for any reason), not his rights.
 
2013-01-18 04:13:41 AM

This About That: Now, if his dick was hanging out, he would have been arrested.


Oh wow, look. A gun thread where people are talking about penises! That never happens.
 
2013-01-18 04:13:55 AM

Bladel: I wonder what would happen if two such asshats would target the same store on the same day for this stunt.

Would the immediately recognize each other as kindred souls?

Or more likely, would they both assume the other was coming for their gun, and turn the Food Court in to a 21st Century OK Coral?


As I stated earlier, there's every possibility that one might assume that the other is about to go on a shooting spree.
Armed security at the mall may very well think the same thing.

The only way to really protect these stalwart defenders of the 2nd amendment, is to give them a tattoo on the forehead that reads PATRIOT.
Though ASSHOLE would work just as well.
 
2013-01-18 04:14:13 AM

cman: A white woman walking around holding a black mans hand for the longest timed was extremely unacceptable. There would be people who would assault the couple. Hell, they may have ended up dead.


Yeah, I know that. It was a huge risk to take, particularly in former Confederate territory. You know, gun country.

The "Pro-gun" side of this debate is spending pretty much all of its time ascribing viewpoints and goals to its opposition without anything to back it up. Take the NRA blasting Obama for... letting the Secret Service have guns. Sorry, when did Obama say "LET'S BAN ALL THE GUNS?" (Never.) But, to the NRA, holding a viewpoint other than "NO GUN RESTRICTIONS, NO BACKGROUND CHECKS" in the vicinity of ANY gun makes you "Just another elitist hypocrite".

My point is, this asshole is out at J.C. Penny fighting for a "right" that isn't being threatened. If you ask me, "Publicly acting on delusions of victimization" is a good sign that maybe you shouldn't be carrying a weapon.
 
2013-01-18 04:20:39 AM

fusillade762: Between him and these nitwits

[tribkcpq.files.wordpress.com image 850x478]

Seriously guys, you're not helping your cause.


In VA, home of the NRA, that's illegal.  (Magazines in.  Gotta be out.)
 
2013-01-18 04:24:06 AM

kingoomieiii: Yeah, I know that. It was a huge risk to take, particularly in former Confederate territory. You know, gun country.


I wonder if this is some kind of new cutting-edge talking point in the gun debate. If so, it's even more hypocritical than usual.

Comparing marriage equality for gays to miscegenation laws = Apples to Oranges
Comparing open carrying an AR-15 in a crowded department store to miscegenation laws = Perfectly Cromulent
 
2013-01-18 04:24:11 AM

cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(


Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.
 
2013-01-18 04:26:37 AM

TommyymmoT: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(

Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.


Is that meant to be an insult?

Is claiming that someone likes GWB supposed to be akin to calling the Democratic Party as Democrat Party?

FYI, I really dont like him.
 
2013-01-18 04:31:50 AM

Pokey.Clyde: That never happens.


Of course not. What possible connection...
 
2013-01-18 04:40:42 AM

cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(


I hereby apologize for my insensitive man-gun-love bigotry...I...I need to reflect on this.
 
2013-01-18 04:46:45 AM
LOOK AT ME!!! I'M A REAL MURKIN HERO!!!

BUDWEISER'S DONE GUNNA DO ONENA DEM COMMERCIALS ABOUT ME!
 
2013-01-18 04:59:57 AM
I'm a firm supporter and believer of the Second Amendment, but he didn't have any business carrying around an assault rifle in public. The assault rifle. I don't have an issue with the handgun, but it should have been concealed. Seems like the guy was just trying to prove a point, but instead came off as the epitome of what is wrong with gun control. Also came off as an asshole.
 
2013-01-18 05:00:22 AM

cman: TommyymmoT: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(

Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.

Is that meant to be an insult?

Is claiming that someone likes GWB supposed to be akin to calling the Democratic Party as Democrat Party?

FYI, I really dont like him.


No, you just voted for him TWICE, as per your own admission, in bygone threads.
You are part of the problem, not the solution, because your ignorance, and gullibility knows no bounds.
You sure aren't shy about it though.
People like you, are maybe not so slowly, but certainly surely, destroying the Republican party.

You guys don't represent the voters of the future, you represent the pre-dead.
If people like you had a stock symbol, selling short would be the way to go.
 
2013-01-18 05:03:16 AM
As a rifle owner, all I have to say is, that guy is a douche. A really stupid douche.
 
2013-01-18 05:03:22 AM

This About That: Now, if his dick was hanging out, he would have been arrested.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-18 05:04:55 AM

TommyymmoT: cman: TommyymmoT: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(

Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.

Is that meant to be an insult?

Is claiming that someone likes GWB supposed to be akin to calling the Democratic Party as Democrat Party?

FYI, I really dont like him.

No, you just voted for him TWICE, as per your own admission, in bygone threads.
You are part of the problem, not the solution, because your ignorance, and gullibility knows no bounds.
You sure aren't shy about it though.
People like you, are maybe not so slowly, but certainly surely, destroying the Republican party.

You guys don't represent the voters of the future, you represent the pre-dead.
If people like you had a stock symbol, selling short would be the way to go.


You are confusing me for someone else.

I wasnt even of age at the 2000 elections. Yes I did vote for Bush in 04, but I was a different person then. This past election I voted for Gary Johnson.

I am for gay marriage, drug legalization, increased immigration, and ignoring illegals in America that just keep to themselves. Does that sound like a Republican trying to destroy the party?

No

/PS, I aint even Republican
 
2013-01-18 05:06:00 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What a worthless douchebag. It's legal to carry a chainsaw too, but you'd have to be a pathetic piece of shiat to walk around with one in a shopping mall.


Actually i think a chainsaw full of gas would be against fire codes
 
2013-01-18 05:07:03 AM

kingoomieiii:
Yeah, it's exactly the same. You walk into a Sears holding a black woman, it's probably because you're looking for an excuse to use her. A gun doesn't feel bad about itself and its relationship when you leave it at home.


Open carry, huh?
With how fat people are getting these days, concealed carry of (normal, human-shaped) person could be possible.
 
2013-01-18 05:09:18 AM
If you feel the need to carry a rifle while you shop you are not a Real American defending our freedoms.


You are a giant farking paranoid asshole with a small penis who is trying to show how tough you are.
 
2013-01-18 05:12:45 AM
"He was in the wrong place and shouldn't be doing this at this location," Yorgason said.

Funny, people say the same thing about gays kissing and women breastfeeding in public.

/The guy may be an attention whore, but if no laws were broken and no one felt threatened then I shall proceed to move this into the "do not care" portion of my brain.
 
2013-01-18 05:14:28 AM

GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.


you're gonna be sorry when the zombie apocalypse comes and everyone left their ARs at home...
 
2013-01-18 05:15:12 AM
Whatever else you can say about it, it's just tacky.
 
2013-01-18 05:15:53 AM

cman: TommyymmoT: cman: TommyymmoT: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(

Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.

Is that meant to be an insult?

Is claiming that someone likes GWB supposed to be akin to calling the Democratic Party as Democrat Party?

FYI, I really dont like him.

No, you just voted for him TWICE, as per your own admission, in bygone threads.
You are part of the problem, not the solution, because your ignorance, and gullibility knows no bounds.
You sure aren't shy about it though.
People like you, are maybe not so slowly, but certainly surely, destroying the Republican party.

You guys don't represent the voters of the future, you represent the pre-dead.
If people like you had a stock symbol, selling short would be the way to go.

You are confusing me for someone else.

I wasnt even of age at the 2000 elections. Yes I did vote for Bush in 04, but I was a different person then. This past election I voted for Gary Johnson.

I am for gay marriage, drug legalization, increased immigration, and ignoring illegals in America that jus ...


i915.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-18 05:16:02 AM

crab66: If you feel the need to carry a rifle while you shop you are not a Real American defending our freedoms.


You are a giant farking paranoid asshole with a small penis who is trying to show how tough you are.


www.biography.com

/please continue...
 
2013-01-18 05:16:50 AM

thamike: cman: TommyymmoT: cman: TommyymmoT: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(

Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.

Is that meant to be an insult?

Is claiming that someone likes GWB supposed to be akin to calling the Democratic Party as Democrat Party?

FYI, I really dont like him.

No, you just voted for him TWICE, as per your own admission, in bygone threads.
You are part of the problem, not the solution, because your ignorance, and gullibility knows no bounds.
You sure aren't shy about it though.
People like you, are maybe not so slowly, but certainly surely, destroying the Republican party.

You guys don't represent the voters of the future, you represent the pre-dead.
If people like you had a stock symbol, selling short would be the way to go.

You are confusing me for someone else.

I wasnt even of age at the 2000 elections. Yes I did vote for Bush in 04, but I was a different person then. This past election I voted for Gary Johnson.

I am for gay marriage, drug legalization, increased immigration, and ignoring illegals in America th ...


I'm stealin that for my profile
 
2013-01-18 05:17:11 AM

Fubini: The store would have been entirely within their rights to require him to leave. The fact that didn't happen tells you something about the gun attitude in the area versus the woman. It also sounds like the reporter talked to the man, but doesn't ask the obvious question (Why are you carrying your rifle into a store?)

I know of a lot of people who don't like to leave their guns unattended in public (even in their car). Say you're out hunting or going to the range and if you need to stop for coffee or a bathroom or something.


Why did he even need to have it with him on a trip to the store? It's an assault rifle.
 
2013-01-18 05:19:05 AM

Abacus9: Why did he even need to have it with him on a trip to the store? It's an assault rifle.


It's an affront rifle in this instance.
 
2013-01-18 05:21:24 AM
This is great news for any crazed gunmen who want to go kill a bunch of folks. He can just walk in and nobody will blink an eye, figuring hes just another proud 'merrican exercising his 2nd 'menment rites.
 
2013-01-18 05:22:14 AM
Well, you can ALWAYS be outraged...

Why do you need an assault rifle to go shopping? No, seriously. Bearing in mind that a weapon is only useful if it is in your hands when you need it, realistically speaking, why do you need a rifle when you're shopping?

My martial arts instructor was once challenged by a "gun nut" (actually just a nut) who felt gunz were better than karate: "What are you going to do when someone sneaks up behind you and hits you over the head? What good's your karate gonna be then, huh?" My instructor replied, "Well, what good is your gun going to be when someone sneaks up behind you and hits you over the head?"

So, again: If you've got your legal, responsibly owned rifle slung over your back, and you're standing at the jeans rack at JC Penney's, your back to the rest of the store, comparing prices or whatever, ignoring all the other shoppers and hurly-burly going on around you, and some crazed fool suddenly opens fire with HIS assault rifle behind you--what good is your gun going to do you then?
 
2013-01-18 05:22:23 AM

GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.


^
 
2013-01-18 05:24:28 AM

TommyymmoT: Bladel: I wonder what would happen if two such asshats would target the same store on the same day for this stunt.

Would the immediately recognize each other as kindred souls?

Or more likely, would they both assume the other was coming for their gun, and turn the Food Court in to a 21st Century OK Coral?

As I stated earlier, there's every possibility that one might assume that the other is about to go on a shooting spree.
Armed security at the mall may very well think the same thing.

The only way to really protect these stalwart defenders of the 2nd amendment, is to give them a tattoo on the forehead that reads PATRIOT.
Though ASSHOLE would work just as well.


Glad to see you know how use of force works. Someone just walking around with a gun doesn't constitute the use of deadly force.
 
2013-01-18 05:25:27 AM
I am very happy indeed to live in a country where he would have been arrested and imprisoned for a long time for this stunt.

/civilised countries don't need guns.
 
2013-01-18 05:27:03 AM
Imagine that. A guy doing nothing illegal wasn't arrested or asked to leave a store. That's certainly newsworthy.
 
2013-01-18 05:27:12 AM
I see from the video screenshot in the article that the rifle is pointed kind of downward, but not very much. Wouldn't that violate the gun safety rule of never point your gun at anything you aren't willing to kill?
 
2013-01-18 05:29:50 AM

JSam21: Someone just walking around with a gun doesn't constitute the use of deadly force.


White people problems.
 
2013-01-18 05:29:57 AM

orbister: I am very happy indeed to live in a country where he would have been arrested and imprisoned for a long time for this stunt.

/civilised countries don't need guns.


I envy you

Trusting those who you do not know implicitly takes balls
 
2013-01-18 05:31:51 AM
 
2013-01-18 05:31:55 AM

This About That: Now, if his dick was hanging out, he would have been arrested.


Nothing to see here
 
2013-01-18 05:33:03 AM

Fubini: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Do you get the vapors when you see police with service pistols?


No, I effin don't, but this dorkus isn't the police. Furthermore, the rest of these wannabe's aren't the army or the malitia, or the police either. Their a bunch of short dicks that haven't got anything better to do. The majority of these turdblossoms have about as much situational training as a can of vienna sausages. Knowing how to fire a weapon does not equal knowing when to fire it.
 
2013-01-18 05:34:44 AM
I don't see the problem. I see untrained civilians with minimal-to-zero firearms experience open carrying handguns all the time...

maxcdn.fooyoh.com

... and don't even get me tarted on their "gun as penis" psychological profile. The only difference between this guy accidentally shooting you & some vigilante doing the same is the vigilante will actually get in trouble for it.
 
2013-01-18 05:34:48 AM

JSam21: TommyymmoT: Bladel: I wonder what would happen if two such asshats would target the same store on the same day for this stunt.

Would the immediately recognize each other as kindred souls?

Or more likely, would they both assume the other was coming for their gun, and turn the Food Court in to a 21st Century OK Coral?

As I stated earlier, there's every possibility that one might assume that the other is about to go on a shooting spree.
Armed security at the mall may very well think the same thing.

The only way to really protect these stalwart defenders of the 2nd amendment, is to give them a tattoo on the forehead that reads PATRIOT.
Though ASSHOLE would work just as well.

Glad to see you know how use of force works. Someone just walking around with a gun doesn't constitute the use of deadly force.


No, it just implies the threat of deadly force.
What is it like to live in a state of constant fear?
Do people point and laugh?
I know I sure would.
 
2013-01-18 05:34:55 AM

Freezer: Fubini: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Do you get the vapors when you see police with service pistols?

No, I effin don't, but this dorkus isn't the police. Furthermore, the rest of these wannabe's aren't the army or the malitia, or the police either. Their a bunch of short dicks that haven't got anything better to do. The majority of these turdblossoms have about as much situational training as a can of vienna sausages. Knowing how to fire a weapon does not equal knowing when to fire it.


And it's your contention that police have mastered the "when to fire it" thing? Really? What non-Earth planet do you reside on?
 
2013-01-18 05:35:38 AM

cman: I envy you

Trusting those who you do not know implicitly takes balls


So you're saying I shouldn't implicitly trust the guy with the AR-15 strapped to his back?
 
2013-01-18 05:36:57 AM
Actually, this is a good thing. When an armed madman attacks, he'll make sure he first shoots this guy giving the others just that little extra time to escape/hide.
 
2013-01-18 05:37:02 AM
Gotta go to work. I'll reply later.
Time to be bootstrappy and all.
 
2013-01-18 05:37:04 AM

VarmintCong: cman: I envy you

Trusting those who you do not know implicitly takes balls

So you're saying I shouldn't implicitly trust the guy with the AR-15 strapped to his back?


Trust no one but yourself
 
2013-01-18 05:37:27 AM

TommyymmoT: What is it like to live in a state of constant fear?


Ask one of the guys with his hands up:

www.warsaw-life.com

They weren't allowed to have guns, only officials. So they must have been perfectly safe, right?
 
2013-01-18 05:39:37 AM
22. High and tight haircut. AR-15 strapped. And you're not overseas serving your country, why?

somethings shoot back
 
2013-01-18 05:39:57 AM

Freezer: Fubini: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Do you get the vapors when you see police with service pistols?

No, I effin don't, but this dorkus isn't the police. Furthermore, the rest of these wannabe's aren't the army or the malitia, or the police either. Their a bunch of short dicks that haven't got anything better to do. The majority of these turdblossoms have about as much situational training as a can of vienna sausages. Knowing how to fire a weapon does not equal knowing when to fire it.


Correct... But do we know what his training level is? Technically, as a licensed armed security officer in my state, I am a civilian with police poiwers only on duty. But I do have extensive firearms training, including shoot/don't shoot live fire and FATS machine training. I'm also on the Rapid Response Team at my hospital and am trained to deal with active shooter situations as well as building clearing situations.

All of that being said, nothing illegal was done here. Is he an obvious attention whore? Yes. Criminal? No.
 
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