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(KSL Salt Lake City)   Law-abiding citizen carries rifle into department store, minds own business, fails to murder anyone. It might take some effort, but we can all still feel threatened and outraged   ( ksl.com) divider line
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2013-01-17 11:54:20 PM  
it's just JC Penney, it's not like there's anybody else in there.
 
2013-01-18 12:04:01 AM  
Now, if his dick was hanging out, he would have been arrested.
 
2013-01-18 12:07:07 AM  
Well, I'm sure that makes the families of 20 dead first graders feel better.
 
2013-01-18 12:08:37 AM  
I'd like to return this thong.  It is stained.

I SAID I WOULD LIKE TO RETURN THIS THONG. IT IS STAINED!  DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?

I didn't think so.
 
2013-01-18 12:08:43 AM  
You must have to be a complete pussy to feel the need to carry a rifle just to go buy socks.
 
2013-01-18 12:08:43 AM  
The store would have been entirely within their rights to require him to leave. The fact that didn't happen tells you something about the gun attitude in the area versus the woman. It also sounds like the reporter talked to the man, but doesn't ask the obvious question (Why are you carrying your rifle into a store?)

I know of a lot of people who don't like to leave their guns unattended in public (even in their car). Say you're out hunting or going to the range and if you need to stop for coffee or a bathroom or something.
 
2013-01-18 12:09:49 AM  

TommyymmoT: You must have to be a complete pussy to feel the need to carry a rifle just to go buy socks.


I'll bet he's got a rock that repels tigers too.
 
2013-01-18 12:12:19 AM  
THESE SIZE 13 PUMPS ARE FOR MY SISTER! DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?
 
2013-01-18 12:23:54 AM  

This About That: Now, if his dick was hanging out, he would have been arrested.


It kind of was
 
2013-01-18 12:25:10 AM  
Between him and these nitwits

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Seriously guys, you're not helping your cause.
 
2013-01-18 12:26:31 AM  
You're not helping, you jackass attention whore.
 
2013-01-18 12:28:07 AM  
I'll bet if that happened with a few farkers shopping that the sale of under pants would increase dramatically. Oh wait three problems with that one farkers hardly leave moms basement so they would not be there, also it's not Tuesday so most farkers would not change their under garments under any circumstances. It takes money to shop and after bong food, chips and fudge brownies who has money for JCPenneys? Sorry guys I had a bad day found out that I am just having to get used to getting crippled as surgery is not an option. Well not everything can go my way. Still I would have loved to have been there to check out the guys guns.
 
2013-01-18 12:30:06 AM  
This dude just doesn't understand tacky behavior. What woukd Miss Manners say?
 
2013-01-18 12:35:01 AM  

maxalt: Sorry guys I had a bad day found out that I am just having to get used to getting crippled as surgery is not an option. Well not everything can go my way.


Are you being serious here? If so, that's awful.
 
2013-01-18 12:35:32 AM  
Oh God, it wasn't a Black Panther, was it?

Or....well, a Black anything?
 
2013-01-18 12:36:58 AM  
Eventually, one of those assholes are going to get shot by somebody thinking they're some crazed gunman, because seriously, who brings an AR-15 to the mall?
 
2013-01-18 12:37:53 AM  
 
2013-01-18 12:40:12 AM  

BunkoSquad: Oh God, it wasn't a Black Panther, was it?

Or....well, a Black anything?


If he were black, the SWAT team would have mowed him down just on spec.
I mean a black man, with a rifle, in a mall, in UTAH?
 
2013-01-18 12:41:21 AM  
Ladies and gentlemen, this is how you troll.
 
2013-01-18 12:42:44 AM  
Store employees said the man in the pictures is 22-year-old Joseph Kelley, an Ogden resident. They said he's done this before to garner reaction.

So he's a troll. Wow, I would not have guessed that. Ever. I just figured that he was a Patriottm.
 
2013-01-18 12:44:50 AM  
I see people in stores with pistols on their belts fairly often and unless they look like they just got off a horse and are looking for new Levis I usually think ATTENTION WHORE. It doesn't bother me, it isn't news-worthy. But I know it bothers some people. And then there's these jackoffs who don't think a pistol is enough, they have to bring out the AR. Cocksuckers are so assholish with their rights that they would scare others into voting the rights away.
 
2013-01-18 12:45:19 AM  
Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.
 
2013-01-18 12:46:42 AM  

dickfreckle: Store employees said the man in the pictures is 22-year-old Joseph Kelley, an Ogden resident. They said he's done this before to garner reaction.

So he's a troll. Wow, I would not have guessed that. Ever. I just figured that he was a Patriottm.


Patriotroll.
 
2013-01-18 12:53:58 AM  

violentsalvation: I see people in stores with pistols on their belts fairly often and unless they look like they just got off a horse and are looking for new Levis I usually think ATTENTION WHORE.


Yup. This one's just another "AH GOTS A GUN! LOOKIT MAH GUN!" jerk.
 
2013-01-18 01:04:27 AM  

GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.


Actually, it indicates that the people carrying the rifles take themselves and their role in society way too seriously.  This is what happens when they run too many trailer trash-based "reality" shows on cable TV.
 
2013-01-18 01:08:11 AM  

Fark Me To Tears: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Actually, it indicates that the people carrying the rifles take themselves and their role in society way too seriously.  This is what happens when they run too many trailer trash-based "reality" shows on cable TV.


You don't carry a farking rifle around unless you want an excuse to use it.
 
2013-01-18 01:15:30 AM  

GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.


Nothing he is doing is safe. If a couple homies rushed him at the counter there they'd take him down and easily make off with his weapons. Take him down, put his own pistol in his face, and take the AR. This guy is a retard and he is making himself a target. This defines irresponsible gun ownership.
 
2013-01-18 01:22:29 AM  

violentsalvation: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Nothing he is doing is safe. If a couple homies rushed him at the counter there they'd take him down and easily make off with his weapons. Take him down, put his own pistol in his face, and take the AR. This guy is a retard and he is making himself a target. This defines irresponsible gun ownership.


People like him are the reason I can't trust the rest of you, because there's probably quite a few of them to every responsible one. Pro bono publico dominates all.
 
2013-01-18 01:36:35 AM  
What a worthless douchebag. It's legal to carry a chainsaw too, but you'd have to be a pathetic piece of shiat to walk around with one in a shopping mall.
 
2013-01-18 01:40:17 AM  
Dumbass. I work retail - you bring the gun on Black Friday; by January, all the crowds are gone and most of the exchanges/gift cards are through the system.
 
2013-01-18 01:55:57 AM  

Brontes: Will our next cause be to ban all fatty foods because heart disease kills 60 times as many people as gun homicides?


When the fatty foods that I eat kill others instead of just killing me, then perhaps we can consider it. If people only used guns for suicide, then perhaps that way the problem might be comparable, too.

Otherwise, false comparison is false.
 
2013-01-18 01:57:12 AM  
Old and busted: "milking"/"wining"
New craze: "Mall gunning"
 
2013-01-18 02:13:06 AM  
I'm curious why he wasn't kicked the fark out of the store. There's no way I'd put up with that shiat in my place of business.
 
2013-01-18 02:13:24 AM  

fusillade762: Patriotroll.


I might have to steal that for the football thread on Sunday.
 
2013-01-18 02:40:51 AM  
This is a perfect example of why "open carry" laws are farking stupid.

ThunderPelvis: I'm curious why he wasn't kicked the fark out of the store. There's no way I'd put up with that shiat in my place of business.


Probably because a large, corporate store in Utah doesn't want to get boycotted for something that people like this asshat would decry as an "anti-gun political statement". My money says this guy was just aching to get kicked out, so he could run to the local rag with a story. If he had tried this nonsense back East, he would have been turned away at the front door by security.

violentsalvation: You're not helping, you jackass attention whore.


This. What a dickhead.
 
2013-01-18 03:06:58 AM  

GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.


Do you get the vapors when you see police with service pistols?
 
2013-01-18 03:09:52 AM  

ThunderPelvis: I'm curious why he wasn't kicked the fark out of the store. There's no way I'd put up with that shiat in my place of business.


TFA says it took place in Salt Lake City... and Utah is generally pretty gun-friendly. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks?

I know places where it's unusual not to see a gun or two in stores at certain times of the year.
 
2013-01-18 03:10:46 AM  

kingoomieiii: maxalt: Sorry guys I had a bad day found out that I am just having to get used to getting crippled as surgery is not an option. Well not everything can go my way.

Are you being serious here? If so, that's awful.


Thanks for the note.  Yea serious I am, but stuff happens and I will find out how to make the best of things. As my German Gramma would say " You can always poke a hole in your knee and pour warm milk in it.". I never understood what the fark that meant, but it always made me smile. So I guess I'll poke a hole in my knee and pour warm milk in it.
 
2013-01-18 03:10:57 AM  
Oh dear, did somebody say "gun control" to Mr Kelley?

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2013-01-18 03:21:54 AM  

violentsalvation: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Nothing he is doing is safe. If a couple homies rushed him at the counter there they'd take him down and easily make off with his weapons. Take him down, put his own pistol in his face, and take the AR. This guy is a retard and he is making himself a target. This defines irresponsible gun ownership.


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/This is the facepalm of coded racial language
 
2013-01-18 03:22:52 AM  

maxalt: So I guess I'll poke a hole in my knee and pour warm milk in it.


That's a sweet story, but I feel obligated to point out that the infection that would cause would probably require amputation.
 
2013-01-18 03:26:36 AM  
I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.
 
2013-01-18 03:30:16 AM  

cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.


Yeah, it's exactly the same. You walk into a Sears holding a black woman, it's probably because you're looking for an excuse to use her. A gun doesn't feel bad about itself and its relationship when you leave it at home.

Walk around with a $1,500, 10-lb loaded gun on your back all the time, people are bound to think you're an asshole. Because you're an asshole.
 
2013-01-18 03:32:28 AM  
I wonder what would happen if two such asshats would target the same store on the same day for this stunt.

Would the immediately recognize each other as kindred souls?

Or more likely, would they both assume the other was coming for their gun, and turn the Food Court in to a 21st Century OK Coral?
 
2013-01-18 03:34:44 AM  

kingoomieiii: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Yeah, it's exactly the same. You walk into a Sears holding a black woman, it's probably because you're looking for an excuse to use her. A gun doesn't feel bad about itself and its relationship when you leave it at home.

Walk around with a $1,500, 10-lb loaded gun on your back all the time, people are bound to think you're an asshole. Because you're an asshole.


Different times back then, man.

A white woman walking around holding a black mans hand for the longest timed was extremely unacceptable. There would be people who would assault the couple. Hell, they may have ended up dead.
 
2013-01-18 03:42:15 AM  

kingoomieiii: maxalt: So I guess I'll poke a hole in my knee and pour warm milk in it.

That's a sweet story, but I feel obligated to point out that the infection that would cause would probably require amputation.


I guess I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
 
2013-01-18 03:47:05 AM  

cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.


Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 
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2013-01-18 03:48:23 AM  

cman: Different times back then, man.

A white woman walking around holding a black mans hand for the longest timed was extremely unacceptable


Dude, this subject has fark-all to do with gun rights. It's a stupid analogy that makes not a whit of sense. Let it go.
 
2013-01-18 03:49:08 AM  

ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

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So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?
 
2013-01-18 04:02:58 AM  

cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

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So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?


I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.
 
2013-01-18 04:04:52 AM  

ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.


Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(
 
2013-01-18 04:06:32 AM  

cman: So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?


You don't have the right to openly carry a loaded rifle in the mall.
This dickhead was "exercising" the tacit permission of the owner of the store (which could be rescinded at any time, for any reason), not his rights.
 
2013-01-18 04:13:41 AM  

This About That: Now, if his dick was hanging out, he would have been arrested.


Oh wow, look. A gun thread where people are talking about penises! That never happens.
 
2013-01-18 04:13:55 AM  

Bladel: I wonder what would happen if two such asshats would target the same store on the same day for this stunt.

Would the immediately recognize each other as kindred souls?

Or more likely, would they both assume the other was coming for their gun, and turn the Food Court in to a 21st Century OK Coral?


As I stated earlier, there's every possibility that one might assume that the other is about to go on a shooting spree.
Armed security at the mall may very well think the same thing.

The only way to really protect these stalwart defenders of the 2nd amendment, is to give them a tattoo on the forehead that reads PATRIOT.
Though ASSHOLE would work just as well.
 
2013-01-18 04:14:13 AM  

cman: A white woman walking around holding a black mans hand for the longest timed was extremely unacceptable. There would be people who would assault the couple. Hell, they may have ended up dead.


Yeah, I know that. It was a huge risk to take, particularly in former Confederate territory. You know, gun country.

The "Pro-gun" side of this debate is spending pretty much all of its time ascribing viewpoints and goals to its opposition without anything to back it up. Take the NRA blasting Obama for... letting the Secret Service have guns. Sorry, when did Obama say "LET'S BAN ALL THE GUNS?" (Never.) But, to the NRA, holding a viewpoint other than "NO GUN RESTRICTIONS, NO BACKGROUND CHECKS" in the vicinity of ANY gun makes you "Just another elitist hypocrite".

My point is, this asshole is out at J.C. Penny fighting for a "right" that isn't being threatened. If you ask me, "Publicly acting on delusions of victimization" is a good sign that maybe you shouldn't be carrying a weapon.
 
2013-01-18 04:20:39 AM  

fusillade762: Between him and these nitwits

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Seriously guys, you're not helping your cause.


In VA, home of the NRA, that's illegal.  (Magazines in.  Gotta be out.)
 
2013-01-18 04:24:06 AM  

kingoomieiii: Yeah, I know that. It was a huge risk to take, particularly in former Confederate territory. You know, gun country.


I wonder if this is some kind of new cutting-edge talking point in the gun debate. If so, it's even more hypocritical than usual.

Comparing marriage equality for gays to miscegenation laws = Apples to Oranges
Comparing open carrying an AR-15 in a crowded department store to miscegenation laws = Perfectly Cromulent
 
2013-01-18 04:24:11 AM  

cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(


Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.
 
2013-01-18 04:26:37 AM  

TommyymmoT: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(

Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.


Is that meant to be an insult?

Is claiming that someone likes GWB supposed to be akin to calling the Democratic Party as Democrat Party?

FYI, I really dont like him.
 
2013-01-18 04:31:50 AM  

Pokey.Clyde: That never happens.


Of course not. What possible connection...
 
2013-01-18 04:40:42 AM  

cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(


I hereby apologize for my insensitive man-gun-love bigotry...I...I need to reflect on this.
 
2013-01-18 04:46:45 AM  
LOOK AT ME!!! I'M A REAL MURKIN HERO!!!

BUDWEISER'S DONE GUNNA DO ONENA DEM COMMERCIALS ABOUT ME!
 
2013-01-18 04:59:57 AM  
I'm a firm supporter and believer of the Second Amendment, but he didn't have any business carrying around an assault rifle in public. The assault rifle. I don't have an issue with the handgun, but it should have been concealed. Seems like the guy was just trying to prove a point, but instead came off as the epitome of what is wrong with gun control. Also came off as an asshole.
 
2013-01-18 05:00:22 AM  

cman: TommyymmoT: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(

Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.

Is that meant to be an insult?

Is claiming that someone likes GWB supposed to be akin to calling the Democratic Party as Democrat Party?

FYI, I really dont like him.


No, you just voted for him TWICE, as per your own admission, in bygone threads.
You are part of the problem, not the solution, because your ignorance, and gullibility knows no bounds.
You sure aren't shy about it though.
People like you, are maybe not so slowly, but certainly surely, destroying the Republican party.

You guys don't represent the voters of the future, you represent the pre-dead.
If people like you had a stock symbol, selling short would be the way to go.
 
2013-01-18 05:03:16 AM  
As a rifle owner, all I have to say is, that guy is a douche. A really stupid douche.
 
2013-01-18 05:03:22 AM  

This About That: Now, if his dick was hanging out, he would have been arrested.


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2013-01-18 05:04:55 AM  

TommyymmoT: cman: TommyymmoT: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(

Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.

Is that meant to be an insult?

Is claiming that someone likes GWB supposed to be akin to calling the Democratic Party as Democrat Party?

FYI, I really dont like him.

No, you just voted for him TWICE, as per your own admission, in bygone threads.
You are part of the problem, not the solution, because your ignorance, and gullibility knows no bounds.
You sure aren't shy about it though.
People like you, are maybe not so slowly, but certainly surely, destroying the Republican party.

You guys don't represent the voters of the future, you represent the pre-dead.
If people like you had a stock symbol, selling short would be the way to go.


You are confusing me for someone else.

I wasnt even of age at the 2000 elections. Yes I did vote for Bush in 04, but I was a different person then. This past election I voted for Gary Johnson.

I am for gay marriage, drug legalization, increased immigration, and ignoring illegals in America that just keep to themselves. Does that sound like a Republican trying to destroy the party?

No

/PS, I aint even Republican
 
2013-01-18 05:06:00 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What a worthless douchebag. It's legal to carry a chainsaw too, but you'd have to be a pathetic piece of shiat to walk around with one in a shopping mall.


Actually i think a chainsaw full of gas would be against fire codes
 
2013-01-18 05:07:03 AM  

kingoomieiii:
Yeah, it's exactly the same. You walk into a Sears holding a black woman, it's probably because you're looking for an excuse to use her. A gun doesn't feel bad about itself and its relationship when you leave it at home.


Open carry, huh?
With how fat people are getting these days, concealed carry of (normal, human-shaped) person could be possible.
 
2013-01-18 05:09:18 AM  
If you feel the need to carry a rifle while you shop you are not a Real American defending our freedoms.


You are a giant farking paranoid asshole with a small penis who is trying to show how tough you are.
 
2013-01-18 05:12:45 AM  
"He was in the wrong place and shouldn't be doing this at this location," Yorgason said.

Funny, people say the same thing about gays kissing and women breastfeeding in public.

/The guy may be an attention whore, but if no laws were broken and no one felt threatened then I shall proceed to move this into the "do not care" portion of my brain.
 
2013-01-18 05:14:28 AM  

GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.


you're gonna be sorry when the zombie apocalypse comes and everyone left their ARs at home...
 
2013-01-18 05:15:12 AM  
Whatever else you can say about it, it's just tacky.
 
2013-01-18 05:15:53 AM  

cman: TommyymmoT: cman: TommyymmoT: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

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So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(

Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.

Is that meant to be an insult?

Is claiming that someone likes GWB supposed to be akin to calling the Democratic Party as Democrat Party?

FYI, I really dont like him.

No, you just voted for him TWICE, as per your own admission, in bygone threads.
You are part of the problem, not the solution, because your ignorance, and gullibility knows no bounds.
You sure aren't shy about it though.
People like you, are maybe not so slowly, but certainly surely, destroying the Republican party.

You guys don't represent the voters of the future, you represent the pre-dead.
If people like you had a stock symbol, selling short would be the way to go.

You are confusing me for someone else.

I wasnt even of age at the 2000 elections. Yes I did vote for Bush in 04, but I was a different person then. This past election I voted for Gary Johnson.

I am for gay marriage, drug legalization, increased immigration, and ignoring illegals in America that jus ...


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2013-01-18 05:16:02 AM  

crab66: If you feel the need to carry a rifle while you shop you are not a Real American defending our freedoms.


You are a giant farking paranoid asshole with a small penis who is trying to show how tough you are.


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/please continue...
 
2013-01-18 05:16:50 AM  

thamike: cman: TommyymmoT: cman: TommyymmoT: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

 [www.driveforknowledge.com image 707x536]

So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

I have better shiat to do than to explain to you why that is a vastly, impressively stupid analogy, and I know you wouldn't listen anyway.

Out of curiosity, though, what is the name of your penis extension/steely love companion?  Bertha?  Mathilda?  Bloodsplatterhammergorekiller?  We can only speculate.  Anyway, I sincerely wish the two of you all the best and a long, happy life together.

Well I guess I wont be inviting you to my birthday party after all

Meany :(

Nobody wants to eat a cake that's shaped like George W. Bush's penis anyway.
Even if the claw at the end is made out of candy corn.

Is that meant to be an insult?

Is claiming that someone likes GWB supposed to be akin to calling the Democratic Party as Democrat Party?

FYI, I really dont like him.

No, you just voted for him TWICE, as per your own admission, in bygone threads.
You are part of the problem, not the solution, because your ignorance, and gullibility knows no bounds.
You sure aren't shy about it though.
People like you, are maybe not so slowly, but certainly surely, destroying the Republican party.

You guys don't represent the voters of the future, you represent the pre-dead.
If people like you had a stock symbol, selling short would be the way to go.

You are confusing me for someone else.

I wasnt even of age at the 2000 elections. Yes I did vote for Bush in 04, but I was a different person then. This past election I voted for Gary Johnson.

I am for gay marriage, drug legalization, increased immigration, and ignoring illegals in America th ...


I'm stealin that for my profile
 
2013-01-18 05:17:11 AM  

Fubini: The store would have been entirely within their rights to require him to leave. The fact that didn't happen tells you something about the gun attitude in the area versus the woman. It also sounds like the reporter talked to the man, but doesn't ask the obvious question (Why are you carrying your rifle into a store?)

I know of a lot of people who don't like to leave their guns unattended in public (even in their car). Say you're out hunting or going to the range and if you need to stop for coffee or a bathroom or something.


Why did he even need to have it with him on a trip to the store? It's an assault rifle.
 
2013-01-18 05:19:05 AM  

Abacus9: Why did he even need to have it with him on a trip to the store? It's an assault rifle.


It's an affront rifle in this instance.
 
2013-01-18 05:21:24 AM  
This is great news for any crazed gunmen who want to go kill a bunch of folks. He can just walk in and nobody will blink an eye, figuring hes just another proud 'merrican exercising his 2nd 'menment rites.
 
2013-01-18 05:22:14 AM  
Well, you can ALWAYS be outraged...

Why do you need an assault rifle to go shopping? No, seriously. Bearing in mind that a weapon is only useful if it is in your hands when you need it, realistically speaking, why do you need a rifle when you're shopping?

My martial arts instructor was once challenged by a "gun nut" (actually just a nut) who felt gunz were better than karate: "What are you going to do when someone sneaks up behind you and hits you over the head? What good's your karate gonna be then, huh?" My instructor replied, "Well, what good is your gun going to be when someone sneaks up behind you and hits you over the head?"

So, again: If you've got your legal, responsibly owned rifle slung over your back, and you're standing at the jeans rack at JC Penney's, your back to the rest of the store, comparing prices or whatever, ignoring all the other shoppers and hurly-burly going on around you, and some crazed fool suddenly opens fire with HIS assault rifle behind you--what good is your gun going to do you then?
 
2013-01-18 05:22:23 AM  

GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.


^
 
2013-01-18 05:24:28 AM  

TommyymmoT: Bladel: I wonder what would happen if two such asshats would target the same store on the same day for this stunt.

Would the immediately recognize each other as kindred souls?

Or more likely, would they both assume the other was coming for their gun, and turn the Food Court in to a 21st Century OK Coral?

As I stated earlier, there's every possibility that one might assume that the other is about to go on a shooting spree.
Armed security at the mall may very well think the same thing.

The only way to really protect these stalwart defenders of the 2nd amendment, is to give them a tattoo on the forehead that reads PATRIOT.
Though ASSHOLE would work just as well.


Glad to see you know how use of force works. Someone just walking around with a gun doesn't constitute the use of deadly force.
 
2013-01-18 05:25:27 AM  
I am very happy indeed to live in a country where he would have been arrested and imprisoned for a long time for this stunt.

/civilised countries don't need guns.
 
2013-01-18 05:27:03 AM  
Imagine that. A guy doing nothing illegal wasn't arrested or asked to leave a store. That's certainly newsworthy.
 
2013-01-18 05:27:12 AM  
I see from the video screenshot in the article that the rifle is pointed kind of downward, but not very much. Wouldn't that violate the gun safety rule of never point your gun at anything you aren't willing to kill?
 
2013-01-18 05:29:50 AM  

JSam21: Someone just walking around with a gun doesn't constitute the use of deadly force.


White people problems.
 
2013-01-18 05:29:57 AM  

orbister: I am very happy indeed to live in a country where he would have been arrested and imprisoned for a long time for this stunt.

/civilised countries don't need guns.


I envy you

Trusting those who you do not know implicitly takes balls
 
2013-01-18 05:31:51 AM  
 
2013-01-18 05:31:55 AM  

This About That: Now, if his dick was hanging out, he would have been arrested.


Nothing to see here
 
2013-01-18 05:33:03 AM  

Fubini: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Do you get the vapors when you see police with service pistols?


No, I effin don't, but this dorkus isn't the police. Furthermore, the rest of these wannabe's aren't the army or the malitia, or the police either. Their a bunch of short dicks that haven't got anything better to do. The majority of these turdblossoms have about as much situational training as a can of vienna sausages. Knowing how to fire a weapon does not equal knowing when to fire it.
 
2013-01-18 05:34:44 AM  
I don't see the problem. I see untrained civilians with minimal-to-zero firearms experience open carrying handguns all the time...

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... and don't even get me tarted on their "gun as penis" psychological profile. The only difference between this guy accidentally shooting you & some vigilante doing the same is the vigilante will actually get in trouble for it.
 
2013-01-18 05:34:48 AM  

JSam21: TommyymmoT: Bladel: I wonder what would happen if two such asshats would target the same store on the same day for this stunt.

Would the immediately recognize each other as kindred souls?

Or more likely, would they both assume the other was coming for their gun, and turn the Food Court in to a 21st Century OK Coral?

As I stated earlier, there's every possibility that one might assume that the other is about to go on a shooting spree.
Armed security at the mall may very well think the same thing.

The only way to really protect these stalwart defenders of the 2nd amendment, is to give them a tattoo on the forehead that reads PATRIOT.
Though ASSHOLE would work just as well.

Glad to see you know how use of force works. Someone just walking around with a gun doesn't constitute the use of deadly force.


No, it just implies the threat of deadly force.
What is it like to live in a state of constant fear?
Do people point and laugh?
I know I sure would.
 
2013-01-18 05:34:55 AM  

Freezer: Fubini: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Do you get the vapors when you see police with service pistols?

No, I effin don't, but this dorkus isn't the police. Furthermore, the rest of these wannabe's aren't the army or the malitia, or the police either. Their a bunch of short dicks that haven't got anything better to do. The majority of these turdblossoms have about as much situational training as a can of vienna sausages. Knowing how to fire a weapon does not equal knowing when to fire it.


And it's your contention that police have mastered the "when to fire it" thing? Really? What non-Earth planet do you reside on?
 
2013-01-18 05:35:38 AM  

cman: I envy you

Trusting those who you do not know implicitly takes balls


So you're saying I shouldn't implicitly trust the guy with the AR-15 strapped to his back?
 
2013-01-18 05:36:57 AM  
Actually, this is a good thing. When an armed madman attacks, he'll make sure he first shoots this guy giving the others just that little extra time to escape/hide.
 
2013-01-18 05:37:02 AM  
Gotta go to work. I'll reply later.
Time to be bootstrappy and all.
 
2013-01-18 05:37:04 AM  

VarmintCong: cman: I envy you

Trusting those who you do not know implicitly takes balls

So you're saying I shouldn't implicitly trust the guy with the AR-15 strapped to his back?


Trust no one but yourself
 
2013-01-18 05:37:27 AM  

TommyymmoT: What is it like to live in a state of constant fear?


Ask one of the guys with his hands up:

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They weren't allowed to have guns, only officials. So they must have been perfectly safe, right?
 
2013-01-18 05:39:37 AM  
22. High and tight haircut. AR-15 strapped. And you're not overseas serving your country, why?

somethings shoot back
 
2013-01-18 05:39:57 AM  

Freezer: Fubini: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Do you get the vapors when you see police with service pistols?

No, I effin don't, but this dorkus isn't the police. Furthermore, the rest of these wannabe's aren't the army or the malitia, or the police either. Their a bunch of short dicks that haven't got anything better to do. The majority of these turdblossoms have about as much situational training as a can of vienna sausages. Knowing how to fire a weapon does not equal knowing when to fire it.


Correct... But do we know what his training level is? Technically, as a licensed armed security officer in my state, I am a civilian with police poiwers only on duty. But I do have extensive firearms training, including shoot/don't shoot live fire and FATS machine training. I'm also on the Rapid Response Team at my hospital and am trained to deal with active shooter situations as well as building clearing situations.

All of that being said, nothing illegal was done here. Is he an obvious attention whore? Yes. Criminal? No.
 
2013-01-18 05:41:00 AM  

cman: VarmintCong: cman: I envy you

Trusting those who you do not know implicitly takes balls

So you're saying I shouldn't implicitly trust the guy with the AR-15 strapped to his back?

Trust no one but yourself


What does any of this have to do with trust?
 
2013-01-18 05:41:20 AM  

untaken_name: TommyymmoT: What is it like to live in a state of constant fear?

Ask one of the guys with his hands up:

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They weren't allowed to have guns, only officials. So they must have been perfectly safe, right?


The guy with his hands up, most likely didn't vote with paranoia in his heart.
The guys with the guns, did.

gotta go
 
2013-01-18 05:42:46 AM  

untaken_name: And it's your contention that police have mastered the "when to fire it" thing? Really? What non-Earth planet do you reside on?


And of course that gives you the right to pretend you're the tough guy in the movies you watch.
 
2013-01-18 05:42:58 AM  

Freezer: No, I effin don't, but this dorkus isn't the police. Furthermore, the rest of these wannabe's aren't the army or the malitia, or the police either. Their a bunch of short dicks that haven't got anything better to do.


How did you even get a keyboard permit?
 
2013-01-18 05:42:59 AM  
Let's say I decide to go to the mall. At the same time I'm getting out of my car to walk into the mall I see someone else walking from the parking lot to the mall and he's got a rifle on his shoulder. How am I to know the difference between a bozo who just wants to be an attention whore by walking around with a gun and someone who is intent on killing as many as he can?

So often the best lobbyists for greater gun control are the gun nuts.
 
2013-01-18 05:43:20 AM  

TommyymmoT: As I stated earlier, there's every possibility that one might assume that the other is about to go on a shooting spree.
Armed security at the mall may very well think the same thing.



FTA: "She never felt threatened, but she believes a place like JC Penney is an inappropriate place to bring a weapon."

What part of "She never felt threatened" are you missing? This is a non-story.
 
2013-01-18 05:45:13 AM  

VarmintCong: cman: I envy you

Trusting those who you do not know implicitly takes balls

So you're saying I shouldn't implicitly trust the guy with the AR-15 strapped to his back?


Maybe not, but it's rather amusing to see you wetting your pants over this.
 
2013-01-18 05:45:52 AM  

TommyymmoT: JSam21: TommyymmoT: Bladel: I wonder what would happen if two such asshats would target the same store on the same day for this stunt.

Would the immediately recognize each other as kindred souls?

Or more likely, would they both assume the other was coming for their gun, and turn the Food Court in to a 21st Century OK Coral?

As I stated earlier, there's every possibility that one might assume that the other is about to go on a shooting spree.
Armed security at the mall may very well think the same thing.

The only way to really protect these stalwart defenders of the 2nd amendment, is to give them a tattoo on the forehead that reads PATRIOT.
Though ASSHOLE would work just as well.

Glad to see you know how use of force works. Someone just walking around with a gun doesn't constitute the use of deadly force.

No, it just implies the threat of deadly force.
What is it like to live in a state of constant fear?
Do people point and laugh?
I know I sure would.



If you are implying that I live in constant fear you would be incorrect. I carry a gun at work. When I clock out my gun comes out of the holster on my duty belt, into a locked case, and then placed into a locked locker along with my duty belt. I don't "play" with guns. Just as much as a carpenter doesn't play with power saws. My gun is a tool of my job and I train with my tool on a regular basis for the unfortunate instance if I have to use my weapon while on duty. I train for my safety and the safety of everyone around that incident. I don't want to put holes into another human being that isn't threatening the life of myself or another.
 
2013-01-18 05:48:00 AM  
Why is it that gun nuts are, in fact, also nuts in many other ways?

Oh, right, they're nuts.
 
2013-01-18 05:48:04 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Why do you need an assault rifle to go shopping? No, seriously. Bearing in mind that a weapon is only useful if it is in your hands when you need it, realistically speaking, why do you need a rifle when you're shopping?


What I always find odd is that they always just answer with: "I don't NEED it, but it's my RIGHT to carry it!" Seriously, when did grown adults start acting like this. Doing something just because you can, for no good reason.
 
2013-01-18 05:49:52 AM  
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2013-01-18 05:50:56 AM  

thamike: cman: VarmintCong: cman: I envy you

Trusting those who you do not know implicitly takes balls

So you're saying I shouldn't implicitly trust the guy with the AR-15 strapped to his back?

Trust no one but yourself

What does any of this have to do with trust?


Everything

By entrusting weapons to someone else you take a big defensive tool away. You gotta have trust that when someone breaks in the police will be there.
 
2013-01-18 05:51:09 AM  

Abacus9: Doing something just because you can, for no good reason.


Because the President is near and I am mad as hell. So it's time to act like I'm 12.
 
2013-01-18 05:54:11 AM  

TommyymmoT: untaken_name: TommyymmoT: What is it like to live in a state of constant fear?

Ask one of the guys with his hands up:

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They weren't allowed to have guns, only officials. So they must have been perfectly safe, right?

The guy with his hands up, most likely didn't vote with paranoia in his heart.
The guys with the guns, did.

gotta go


You obviously don't know anything about the image I posted, so go on, run away, just like a coward always does.
 
2013-01-18 05:54:55 AM  
There's nothing redeemable about this guy's actions and he's an embarrassment to all level-headed and responsible gun owners. Simply because you have the right (or permission) to do something, doesn't mean you should -- that's part of being a grown-up.

To those that attempt to justify his actions by suggesting he had one or more of the firearms with him and did not want to leave them unattended in his car -- sorry. Firearm responsibility includes planning where you will be traveling with them.

The idea that he was armed to this degree of personal protection is also laughable. An obvious weekend warrior, suited up with his tactical gear, and loaded for bear. At best this guy did this because, "Damn't I'm allowed to and people will see the light if I just show them the way." At worst he was doing this for attention and/or to intimidate.

Regardless, all that he accomplished was making any number of people feel uncomfortable (and yes, I do feel equally uncomfortable around *any* armed individual(s) in such settings especially if they are armed to this degree), and reinforcing that there are a large number of asshats who legally own firearms.

/gun owner
//anti gun-control legislation
///blah blah blah
 
2013-01-18 05:55:00 AM  

Gyrfalcon: If you've got your legal, responsibly owned rifle slung over your back, and you're standing at the jeans rack at JC Penney's, your back to the rest of the store, comparing prices or whatever, ignoring all the other shoppers and hurly-burly going on around you, and some crazed fool suddenly opens fire with HIS assault rifle behind you--what good is your gun going to do you then?


Depends on why the other guy wants to open fire.
A murderer out to get you (specifically) may not be swayed by the fact you have a gun, But the presence of one obviously complicates their plans.
Attacking a visibly armed man in a sears full of witnesses makes for a very poor opportunity.

A mugger, rapist, car jacker or someone out to simply assault you cause they've got a chip on their shoulder, these guys are looking for easy marks and easy crimes. Its the reason they use guns themselves, to gain quick compliance.
The presence of a weapon on their target says "this customer might escalate the situation pretty quickly...".
A lazy criminal doesn't want to risk being under someone elses muzzle. Unless his plan starts with a loud and violent murder, he's probably going elsewhere.
Many people who open carry are thinking about these guys. Their intent is to discourage the attack by carrying around a big stick.

Its why cops not only carry exposed weapons, but easily recognized uniforms that say "I have firepower and the authority to use it". Because it demands respect with a hint of fear and keeps people with evil thoughts at bay.
...Unless the would-be criminal is insane, but all bets are off in those cases anyway.

/Cops do get hit over the back of the head from time to time.
/But someone who would do that probably wouldn't be encouraged to not-do it just because the cop didn't have a gun.
 
2013-01-18 05:59:01 AM  

crab66: untaken_name: And it's your contention that police have mastered the "when to fire it" thing? Really? What non-Earth planet do you reside on?

And of course that gives you the right to pretend you're the tough guy in the movies you watch.


Let's say, for the sake of argument, that you're correct. Let's say that I enjoy pretending to be a tough guy from the movies. What do you have against that, exactly? Lots of people want to be things they aren't, and they like to pretend. As long as they aren't hurting anyone, why do you care? The guy going around dressed up like Batman is pretending to be a tough guy from the movies, but he doesn't use a gun. So wanting to be a tough guy from the movies doesn't seem to be synonymous with liking or using guns. Is it guns that you have a problem with, or people who enjoy pretending to be tough guys from the movies? Or do you just hate anyone who's different from you because the tiny little mushy ball of crap that you call a brain can't handle it?
 
2013-01-18 05:59:04 AM  
WHY U NO POST PICTURES?

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2013-01-18 06:00:46 AM  
1. It's not a new pair of shoes
2. If he was black or south asian, he'd be dead right now
3. I would never go back to that store ever again
4. I might not go to JC Penney ever again
5. I would've called the cops, not taken a picture and called the news. Notice how no one took a picture of his face?
6. You guys already have concealed carry, which is frightening enough
7. Wouldn't be seen wielding a Grenade
8. Knife
9. Sword
10. or Bomb
11. Shooting at no one is equally dangerous
12. The gun is pointed at someone, I don't care if his finger's not on the trigger.
13. The death of the 4th amendment invalidates the 2nd
14. Never going to Utah
 
2013-01-18 06:03:16 AM  

untaken_name: Or do you just hate anyone who's different from you because the tiny little mushy ball of crap that you call a brain can't handle it?


I have reasonable suspicion that the police have passed some kind of course telling them not to murder people. And it's still pretty farking scary.

Oh and 15. He'd be dead if he went into a bank
 
2013-01-18 06:06:42 AM  

cman: thamike: cman: VarmintCong: cman: I envy you

Trusting those who you do not know implicitly takes balls

So you're saying I shouldn't implicitly trust the guy with the AR-15 strapped to his back?

Trust no one but yourself

What does any of this have to do with trust?

Everything

By entrusting weapons to someone else you take a big defensive tool away. You gotta have trust that when someone breaks in the police will be there.


You're on a completely different level. I meant about this situation. Having to trust that a guy with a rifle at JC Penney is non-threatening is like having to trust that the guy who rubbing my Big Mac on his ass has good hygiene.  Neither guy should even exist, let alone be a necessary existential quandary in my everyday life.
 
2013-01-18 06:08:13 AM  

Abacus9: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

^


We should make it a crime for any action that anyone thinks might imply a crime.

Did you get into a car with a completely unnecessary v8 engine? That implies you're gonna go street racing or will gleefully run down some school children.

Did you carry a knife? Implied stabbing!

Eye patch? Implied pirate.
 
2013-01-18 06:12:18 AM  

Befuddled: Let's say I decide to go to the mall. At the same time I'm getting out of my car to walk into the mall I see someone else walking from the parking lot to the mall and he's got a rifle on his shoulder. How am I to know the difference between a bozo who just wants to be an attention whore by walking around with a gun and someone who is intent on killing as many as he can?


THIS. How are we to know?
 
2013-01-18 06:13:26 AM  

untaken_name: TommyymmoT: untaken_name: TommyymmoT: What is it like to live in a state of constant fear?

Ask one of the guys with his hands up:

[www.warsaw-life.com image 467x300]

They weren't allowed to have guns, only officials. So they must have been perfectly safe, right?

The guy with his hands up, most likely didn't vote with paranoia in his heart.
The guys with the guns, did.

gotta go

You obviously don't know anything about the image I posted, so go on, run away, just like a coward always does.


I, quite sadly, don't know the back story behind every photo ever taken.
I'm still waiting for my car, so why don't you enlighten me?
Are you one of those imbeciles that think the Holocaust happened because the Jews were denied guns?
Or are you one of those imbeciles that think that slavery in the Americas would have never happened, had the black people been armed?

/not a coward, just not willing to miss work to explain myself to some anonymous douche nozzle that thinks I should
 
2013-01-18 06:13:41 AM  
There is not a single civilized country left in the world where this is acceptable or even legal.
 
2013-01-18 06:16:09 AM  

thamike: cman: thamike: cman: VarmintCong: cman: I envy you

Trusting those who you do not know implicitly takes balls

So you're saying I shouldn't implicitly trust the guy with the AR-15 strapped to his back?

Trust no one but yourself

What does any of this have to do with trust?

Everything

By entrusting weapons to someone else you take a big defensive tool away. You gotta have trust that when someone breaks in the police will be there.

You're on a completely different level. I meant about this situation. Having to trust that a guy with a rifle at JC Penney is non-threatening is like having to trust that the guy who rubbing my Big Mac on his ass has good hygiene.  Neither guy should even exist, let alone be a necessary existential quandary in my everyday life.


I was replying to orbister's post about how there are no guns in Scotland and he likes it that way
 
2013-01-18 06:17:33 AM  

cman: thamike: cman: thamike: cman: VarmintCong: cman: I envy you

Trusting those who you do not know implicitly takes balls

So you're saying I shouldn't implicitly trust the guy with the AR-15 strapped to his back?

Trust no one but yourself

What does any of this have to do with trust?

Everything

By entrusting weapons to someone else you take a big defensive tool away. You gotta have trust that when someone breaks in the police will be there.

You're on a completely different level. I meant about this situation. Having to trust that a guy with a rifle at JC Penney is non-threatening is like having to trust that the guy who rubbing my Big Mac on his ass has good hygiene.  Neither guy should even exist, let alone be a necessary existential quandary in my everyday life.

I was replying to orbister's post about how civilized society like Scotland doesn't need guns


Wrong choice of words for me. Fixt
 
2013-01-18 06:20:45 AM  
Well, that's just peachy.

But another rational, law-abiding citizen just happened to lose his gun while patrolling his neighborhood on his Hoveround of Justice...

Link
 
2013-01-18 06:21:26 AM  

moothemagiccow: 6. You guys already have concealed carry, which is frightening enough


Only to you because while people who own and carry guns are accused of being "paranoid", it is people like you who actually are paranoid.

When I lived in an apartment in that grey area between the 'good' part of town and the 'bad' part of town the level of security I felt comfortable with was a locked door and a small baseball bat like club. If I were a small person or a female I might have felt more secure with a deadbolt and a small caliber pistol.

I don't wear a seat belt because its the law or because I'm just absolutely terrified that at ANY MOMENT I could be in a car accident. I wear one because it could happen and it's better to be prepared than not. When I ride my mountain bike, I wear a helmet not because I'm terrified of falling off and hitting my head... If I was, I wouldn't ride the bike, the helmet is there just in case. If I choose to arm myself, it is not because I'm convinced that there are people out to get me, or because I expect to need to take out a mass murdering psycho, it's because I'm prepared on the extremely unlikely off chance that it's needed. Just like the seat belt. Just like the helmet.
 
2013-01-18 06:25:10 AM  
I felt threatened, so stand your ground laws say I can take that gun and blow his brains out. Problem solved. One less douchebag on the planet.
 
2013-01-18 06:27:10 AM  
Why would an obviously paranoid person bother us?

It's as if people thought that mentally ill people were a danger to others or something.
 
2013-01-18 06:27:12 AM  

randomjsa: moothemagiccow: 6. You guys already have concealed carry, which is frightening enough

Only to you because while people who own and carry guns are accused of being "paranoid", it is people like you who actually are paranoid.

When I lived in an apartment in that grey area between the 'good' part of town and the 'bad' part of town the level of security I felt comfortable with was a locked door and a small baseball bat like club. If I were a small person or a female I might have felt more secure with a deadbolt and a small caliber pistol.

I don't wear a seat belt because its the law or because I'm just absolutely terrified that at ANY MOMENT I could be in a car accident. I wear one because it could happen and it's better to be prepared than not. When I ride my mountain bike, I wear a helmet not because I'm terrified of falling off and hitting my head... If I was, I wouldn't ride the bike, the helmet is there just in case. If I choose to arm myself, it is not because I'm convinced that there are people out to get me, or because I expect to need to take out a mass murdering psycho, it's because I'm prepared on the extremely unlikely off chance that it's needed. Just like the seat belt. Just like the helmet.


 Concealed carry, is protection. Open carry of a rifle, is intimidation.
 
2013-01-18 06:27:27 AM  
Covered in someone else's in blood? Probably a nurse.

Walking around with major untreated injuries? Probably an MMA fighter. He's fine.

Carrying a machete with an angry look on their face? Probably just tired from cutting their way though the jungles of Utah to buy milk.

Exchanging powdery white substances for money? Probably just selling laundry detergent.

Some kids video taping themselves driving around shooting people with a paintball gun? I'm sure it's a movie and they have the proper filming license.

We should just ignore everything out of the ordinary because it's probably fine. No one ever has bad intentions when they walk around a public place with an assault rifle.
 
2013-01-18 06:31:54 AM  

assjuice: I felt threatened, so stand your ground laws say I can take that gun and blow his brains out. Problem solved. One less douchebag on the planet.


Troll food... once you take the gun, he is no longer a threat. Enjoy prison.
 
2013-01-18 06:32:16 AM  
"IT"S PERFECTLY LEGAL."


Never makes something inherently moral. It's not right when wall street abuses the imperfection of law and it's not right when turdshiat rednecks do it either.


Trying to scare innocent people does not make you tough. It makes you a paranoid lunatic.
 
2013-01-18 06:33:16 AM  

moothemagiccow: untaken_name: Or do you just hate anyone who's different from you because the tiny little mushy ball of crap that you call a brain can't handle it?

I have reasonable suspicion that the police have passed some kind of course telling them not to murder people. And it's still pretty farking scary.

Oh and 15. He'd be dead if he went into a bank


He wouldn't go into a bank. It is a felony to go into a bank with a firearm and it has been established he's a law abiding citizen. Nice try though. I hope you can sleep after seeing such terrifying images of a person not threatening anyone or breaking any laws.
Do I think it was a great idea? Not really, but people need to calm the f*ck down about "OMG!!! GUNZ!!!"

/If they are only made to kill people, there are 100 million American's that apparently own broken firearms.
 
2013-01-18 06:37:08 AM  
Shows that when people are in a panic, they don't think rationally. If he were carrying a hammer, people wouldn't be upset and more people are murdered with hammers than assault rifles in this country
 
2013-01-18 06:41:00 AM  

zerkalo: 22. High and tight haircut. AR-15 strapped. And you're not overseas serving your country, why?

somethings shoot back


Unless you're suggesting he joins the Peace Corp being overseas has nothing to do with "serving his country."
 
2013-01-18 06:44:26 AM  

fusillade762: Between him and these nitwits

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Seriously guys, you're not helping your cause.


Not hurting either. Occupy folks caused all kinds of crime, mayhem, money loss to cities, and nobody here whined. They were just using their constitutional rights.

Weird how only your side gets them, huh? Weird how those bastard Tea Party people all uphold the law, and your boys don't huh?
 
2013-01-18 06:45:26 AM  

violentsalvation: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Nothing he is doing is safe. If a couple homies rushed him at the counter there they'd take him down and easily make off with his weapons. Take him down, put his own pistol in his face, and take the AR. This guy is a retard and he is making himself a target. This defines irresponsible gun ownership.


My first thought when I saw the headline. Checked the location, and sure enough - bumfark nowhere.
I'd like to see this moron try that here in L.A. He wouldn't last long enough to get arrested.
 
2013-01-18 06:47:31 AM  

IlGreven: Well, that's just peachy.

But another rational, law-abiding citizen just happened to lose his gun while patrolling his neighborhood on his Hoveround of Justice...

Link


If he was carrying an m-16, at least he would have been less likely to lose it.

/unless he was a cop...
/but hopefully their problems will be fixed when they go from 5.56mm to the smaller 9mm rounds.
 
2013-01-18 06:50:55 AM  

James F. Campbell: Befuddled: Let's say I decide to go to the mall. At the same time I'm getting out of my car to walk into the mall I see someone else walking from the parking lot to the mall and he's got a rifle on his shoulder. How am I to know the difference between a bozo who just wants to be an attention whore by walking around with a gun and someone who is intent on killing as many as he can?

THIS. How are we to know?


By the haircut. If the young man looks like either a sheepdog or a girl, he's a murderer. Also, those ear gauges or tattoos will give them away.
 
2013-01-18 06:51:40 AM  
This just in:

A white woman's right to hold a black man's hand does not equal your constitutional right to self-defense.

A woman's right to abort an unborn child does not equal your right to self defense.

Obama's right to "defend" the U.S. from a group of civilian children in physical proximity to al Qaida #2 does not equal your right of self defense.

Despite your right to self defense being the only right specifically outlined in the Bill of Rights in reference to being "necessary for the security of a free State," it is apparently revocable if it makes liberals feel squeemish.
 
2013-01-18 06:55:44 AM  

GAT_00: Fark Me To Tears: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Actually, it indicates that the people carrying the rifles take themselves and their role in society way too seriously.  This is what happens when they run too many trailer trash-based "reality" shows on cable TV.

You don't carry a farking rifle around unless you want an excuse to use it.


You continue to show that you are a moran. It's obvious the guy is not looking for an excuse to use it. He is carrying it around to make a political statement and it's in bad taste especially in light of recent events.
 
2013-01-18 06:55:44 AM  
sigh. There are no amounts of facepalms or you'renothelping.jpgs sufficient to post. What farking marshmallowy attention whoring bruttish imp. Seriously. The fact that someone needs to sit him down and explain to him that even if it is technically legal, waddling around the mall with an AR-15 strapped to your back in the midst of a national debate on gun control and mass murders is a BAD IDEA; that someone needs to waste oxygen and contribute to Global Warming by breathing CO2 into the atmosphere; that someone has to tell this troglodyte that his little stunt has all the usefulness of a frozen urineade stand; that someone needs to break it down Barney Style that he is a "Real Amurrican Patriot" in the most sarcastic and embarrassingly juxtaposed kind of way; that someone has to inform him that his little idea is only going to get people that are ideologically on his side to actually defect to the gun control side out of sheer disgust...

That someone has to explain this to him... this is why I am a jaded and cynical asshole who has no passion and don't really care about anything outside of Green Bay Packers football and providing for my family.
 
2013-01-18 06:59:34 AM  
I am a gun owner, a recreational shooter, and a supporter of responsible gun owners. This guy is an jackass attention whore, by his own admission. This taking place in Ogden, Utah is probably why it wasn't blown into a big deal.

CSB, I was in BK one Sunday afternoon and some fugitive recovery types showed up, badges hanging around their necks, thigh holsters, they paraded around the BK letting everybody know they were packing. I finished my meal and left, not afraid of the fire arms, but I was certainly not wanting to be in an environment where those hillbillies felt they had to flaunt their firepower.
 
2013-01-18 07:02:05 AM  

cman: What does any of this have to do with trust?

Everything

By entrusting weapons to someone else you take a big defensive tool away.


If someone wants to hurt you, they don't need to have a gun. They only need to have the initiative. In which case, having a gun yourself isn't going to help you, unless you get very lucky.

cman: Trust no one but yourself


And this is a shiatty way to live, if you can even call it "living".
 
2013-01-18 07:02:21 AM  
I think it's obvious what happened. The guys kept hearing that "guns are designed for killing" and since his gun never killed anyone he was trying to return it because it was defective.
 
2013-01-18 07:03:33 AM  
Call the WAAAAAAmbulance

open carry is legal

Don't care if he's a another fat wannabe with swagger and a mouthful of chew

butthurt farker-I'll never shop there again
...good
 
2013-01-18 07:06:02 AM  

natas6.0: Call the WAAAAAAmbulance

open carry is legal

Don't care if he's a another fat wannabe with swagger and a mouthful of chew

butthurt farker-I'll never shop there again
...good


You sound tough.
 
2013-01-18 07:06:41 AM  

Thunderpipes: fusillade762: Between him and these nitwits

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Seriously guys, you're not helping your cause.

Not hurting either. Occupy folks caused all kinds of crime, mayhem, money loss to cities, and nobody here whined. They were just using their constitutional rights.

Weird how only your side gets them, huh? Weird how those bastard Tea Party people all uphold the law, and your boys don't huh?


Amount of total damage done:

Banks > Nuts with guns > Occupy
 
2013-01-18 07:07:29 AM  
Come on, people.

Shop smart. Shop S-Mart.

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2013-01-18 07:11:39 AM  

Fubini: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Do you get the vapors when you see police with service pistols?


Not the same thing.
 
2013-01-18 07:12:03 AM  

betelgeux: I am a gun owner, a recreational shooter, and a supporter of responsible gun owners. This guy is an jackass attention whore, by his own admission. This taking place in Ogden, Utah is probably why it wasn't blown into a big deal.

CSB, I was in BK one Sunday afternoon and some fugitive recovery types showed up, badges hanging around their necks, thigh holsters, they paraded around the BK letting everybody know they were packing. I finished my meal and left, not afraid of the fire arms, but I was certainly not wanting to be in an environment where those hillbillies felt they had to flaunt their firepower.



You say that as if that's an actual thing.
 
2013-01-18 07:16:12 AM  
"Look everyone!! My guns are fashion accessories!!"

People like this guy in the story just sound like a bunch of chicken shiat wannabe tough guys.

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"Honey? I'm going to Walmart... They're having a sale on fudge cake. Need me to pick you up same tampons?"
 
2013-01-18 07:23:35 AM  

numbquil: GAT_00: Fark Me To Tears: GAT_00: Seriously?  This is how we're all supposed to be safe?  Because I don't know about you, but I worry when rifles are casually carried around.  It implies you expect to use it.

Actually, it indicates that the people carrying the rifles take themselves and their role in society way too seriously.  This is what happens when they run too many trailer trash-based "reality" shows on cable TV.

You don't carry a farking rifle around unless you want an excuse to use it.

You continue to show that you are a moran. It's obvious the guy is not looking for an excuse to use it. He is carrying it around to make a political statement and it's in bad taste especially in light of recent events.




Well, considering that the main recent memories of people going into public buildings carrying AR-variants ended in dozens dead, I would say this moron is lucky someone didn't pull our their CCW and plug him before he could get into the store.
 
2013-01-18 07:24:41 AM  
One of the great things abouot not living in the past, say, the old west, is that we have a realtively stale society and not everyone is required to carry a gun (or sword) at all times for protection.

Given that, carrying a gun into a place that does not normally have them will be out of the place. It is far more common to see a gun in a store when it is being robbed or someone is shooting than just because someone is 'exercising their rights.' It is intimidating,it scares the other shoppers who do not know your intent, it scares the employee who has to contradict you in regards to store policy, and it scares the police because they will be getting calls. The point is, people do not know if you are nut who wants to rob the store or worse, hurt people. Or if you are just a nut who feels that American exceptionalism and nationalistic pride are a replacement for intelligence and allows you to carry weapons into peaceful locations. Your intent is not know, and you are scaring the daylights out of normal people.
 
2013-01-18 07:29:41 AM  
Tell me this, gun nuts: if an armed society is supposed to be a polite society, why are so many of you in this thread admitting that this guy is an asshole?
 
2013-01-18 07:30:26 AM  

Jaws_Victim: One of the great things abouot not living in the past, say, the old west, is that we have a realtively stale society and not everyone is required to carry a gun (or sword) at all times for protection.

Given that, carrying a gun into a place that does not normally have them will be out of the place. It is far more common to see a gun in a store when it is being robbed or someone is shooting than just because someone is 'exercising their rights.' It is intimidating,it scares the other shoppers who do not know your intent, it scares the employee who has to contradict you in regards to store policy, and it scares the police because they will be getting calls. The point is, people do not know if you are nut who wants to rob the store or worse, hurt people. Or if you are just a nut who feels that American exceptionalism and nationalistic pride are a replacement for intelligence and allows you to carry weapons into peaceful locations. Your intent is not know, and you are scaring the daylights out of normal people.


Wrote that on an ipad. So theres a million mistakes. Stable society.
 
2013-01-18 07:31:07 AM  

James F. Campbell: Tell me this, gun nuts: if an armed society is supposed to be a polite society, why are so many of you in this thread admitting that this guy is an asshole?


Well, there is a difference between "armed" and "LOOK AT ME AND MY SLUNG AR IN JCPENNY MERRRRRICA' fark YEAH! 2ND AMNNNNDMNT RIYYYGHTS GIMME A LIP OF COPE AND GIT R DONE."
 
2013-01-18 07:31:35 AM  
No, it takes no effort at all. 20 days in county and a year's probation for brandishing a firearm.
 
2013-01-18 07:32:39 AM  

daveUSMC: Well, there is a difference between "armed" and "LOOK AT ME AND MY SLUNG AR IN JCPENNY MERRRRRICA' fark YEAH! 2ND AMNNNNDMNT RIYYYGHTS GIMME A LIP OF COPE AND GIT R DONE."


So what you're saying is that it's not the gun that makes the difference.
 
2013-01-18 07:33:39 AM  

Lorelle: violentsalvation: I see people in stores with pistols on their belts fairly often and unless they look like they just got off a horse and are looking for new Levis I usually think ATTENTION WHORE.

Yup. This one's just another "AH GOTS A GUN! LOOKIT MAH GUN!" jerk.


No worse than a hipster with an ipad, a preppy with his Oakleys perched in his messed-style hair, prada purses, old women with blue hair etc.

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2013-01-18 07:34:58 AM  
I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.
 
2013-01-18 07:36:28 AM  

brap: I'd like to return this thong.  It is stained.

I SAID I WOULD LIKE TO RETURN THIS THONG. IT IS STAINED!  DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?

I didn't think so.


lulz
 
2013-01-18 07:37:07 AM  
As a gun owner, I have many many issues with this moron. The biggest might be the number of gun safety rules he is violating in one picture. Look at his barrel discipline (or lack there of). He is about to shoot the nuts/knees off some poor idiot standing next to him.

Even as a gun owner, and one that does conceal carry from time to time, I would have called the cops because he is being fundamentally unsafe and I wouldn't not trust this genius to take constructive criticism well.
 
2013-01-18 07:39:39 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: crab66: If you feel the need to carry a rifle while you shop you are not a Real American defending our freedoms.


You are a giant farking paranoid asshole with a small penis who is trying to show how tough you are.

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/please continue...


Please stop repeating this lie. A few of us actually do understand Freud.

In General Introduction to Psychoanalysis , Freud wrote, "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity"

Freud is specifically making reference to the male phallus with his use of the word "weapon", as his Tenth Lecture on the subject of dreams labels swords, sabers, pistols and rifles as symbols of the male gentalia. A fear of a weapon, in a dream, mind you, simply suggests a neurosis towards the male phallus. For instance, if a female were to have a dream in which a man with a gun startled her, it would point towards an innate fear of sex, and perhaps lead to the discovery of said fear.

The quote has nothing to do with firearms. It is merely a comment on dreams and symbolism.

As far as sexual maturity, he basically proposed humans as sexual beings from birth, and that along with the body, ones sexuality matures as well. Except many people get stuck at a developmental stage of sexuality rather than continue to mature.

Freud decided pretty much everything was about sex. But he also had a nasty coke habit too so, you might want to take his ideas with a grain of salt. Almost all of his theories are regarded as wrong these days anyway.


Also...

Fark just after 9/11 - "After an emotional tragedy rushing to enact legislation that infringes on our rights but does little to nothing to actually keep us safe is wrong. The odds of being killed in a terrorist attack are incredibly low."

Fark now - "In the wake of such an emotional tragedy we must rush to enact legislation that infringes on the rights of legal gun owners but does little to nothing to actually keep us safe. Despite the odds of being killed in a mass shooting are incredibly low.."

The selective application of outrage over the erosion of constitutional rights is hypocritical. I know, welcome to fark.

/ I am in no way suggesting the guy in TFA is anything but a giant paranoid a-hole. I won't speculate about the size of his penis
// If you see a Guy with a rifle in public don't take any chances. Run away and call the cops!
 
2013-01-18 07:40:13 AM  
Well it sounds like he does this for attention but looks like the authorities realized he's not going to cause issues so they did nothing.

Is it smart? No, but a weapon slung over someone's back is a pretty sure sign that they're not going to use it. If he ran in screaming and pointing it at people then yea that's bad.
 
2013-01-18 07:41:18 AM  

html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.


Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.
 
2013-01-18 07:43:35 AM  

doglover: Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.


Yes -- and if stories like that weren't the exception, they wouldn't be newsworthy, now would they?
 
2013-01-18 07:46:46 AM  
I own firearms, even the "evil" ones currently on the Democratic Hit List......but this guy is an attention whore plain and simple. There is absolutely no need to "train the public" to get used to Open Carry in a JC Penney's. While I agree that educating the general public to positive benefits of firearm ownership is a goal that should be attained, the "Shock" approach demonstrated here isn't helping our cause at all. Now these people aren't thinking "Hey that guy is standing up for his 2nd amendment right, what a good guy!", NO now they are thinking "Hey what is wrong with that gun nut? why does he have an "assault rifle" in JC Penney's? He's crazy".
 
2013-01-18 07:47:20 AM  
Someone didn't get enough attention from his dad.

It's ok buddy.
 
2013-01-18 07:48:42 AM  

TommyymmoT: You must have to be a complete pussy to feel the need to carry a rifle just to go buy socks.


I think there are a lot of gun owners who live in a perpetual state of fear,,,,kind of sad. They make the sane normal ones look bad.
 
2013-01-18 07:50:27 AM  

Pfactor: Did you get into a car with a completely unnecessary v8 engine? That implies you're gonna go street racing or will gleefully run down some school children.


Speeding is illegal
 
2013-01-18 07:51:30 AM  

doglover: html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.

Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.


You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.
 
2013-01-18 07:52:29 AM  
Wow, he must have a really tiny penis.
 
2013-01-18 07:52:44 AM  

moothemagiccow: You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.


*head desk*
 
2013-01-18 07:53:05 AM  

NephilimNexus: I don't see the problem. I see untrained civilians with minimal-to-zero firearms experience open carrying handguns all the time...

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... and don't even get me tarted on their "gun as penis" psychological profile. The only difference between this guy accidentally shooting you & some vigilante doing the same is the vigilante will actually get in trouble for it.


You'd be surprised how little firearms training police have! I shoot competitively and so far in 6 years I've never been beaten by a cop, but I've been beaten a lot by a lot of regular civilians. Anyhow, all I really wanted to impart here was - you'd be surprised how little firearms training police have. Their job is not be a firearms expert, their job is prevent and investigate crime. Most cops that I know, never pulled their weapon in 20 years.
 
2013-01-18 07:55:10 AM  

moothemagiccow: doglover: html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.

Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.

You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.


I bought a fire extinguisher with the intent of never using it. Is that the same as not having one too?
 
2013-01-18 07:55:18 AM  
I bet Gat thinks he was there looking for him
 
2013-01-18 07:55:32 AM  

illannoyin: Fark just after 9/11 - "After an emotional tragedy rushing to enact legislation that infringes on our rights but does little to nothing to actually keep us safe is wrong. The odds of being killed in a terrorist attack are incredibly low."

Fark now - "In the wake of such an emotional tragedy we must rush to enact legislation that infringes on the rights of legal gun owners but does little to nothing to actually keep us safe. Despite the odds of being killed in a mass shooting are incredibly low.."

The selective application of outrage over the erosion of constitutional rights is hypocritical. I know, welcome to fark.


That explains why the 4th amendment is dead and the 2nd amendment is going strong.
 
2013-01-18 07:56:43 AM  

Farkage: moothemagiccow: doglover: html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.

Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.

You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.

I bought a fire extinguisher with the intent of never using it. Is that the same as not having one too?


Only pussies have fire extinguishers

/That's fark thinking for you
 
2013-01-18 07:57:07 AM  

Farkage: moothemagiccow: doglover: html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.

Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.

You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.

I bought a fire extinguisher with the intent of never using it. Is that the same as not having one too?


If there's a fire in your house, and you don't use it, yes. Someone shot the guy more than once, and he didn't pull the gun. I don't care if it was a pellet gun.
 
2013-01-18 07:57:58 AM  
Have a flashlight in your house? You scared of the dark, pussy?
 
2013-01-18 07:58:22 AM  
If I was a bad man with a firearm, and knowing the Open Carry laws, if I'm in a State where open carrying is legal as long as the weapon is unloaded, I would soooooo be scoring me a free AR.
 
2013-01-18 07:58:34 AM  

TommyymmoT: BunkoSquad: Oh God, it wasn't a Black Panther, was it?

Or....well, a Black anything?

If he were black, the SWAT team would have mowed him down just on spec.
I mean a black man, with a rifle, in a mall, in UTAH?


No, the only black person in Utah lives down the street from me and I think he was home that day...
 
2013-01-18 07:59:54 AM  
Open carry is fine in many places, unless you are CA and see scary black men doing so. Then you ban it for everyone.
 
2013-01-18 08:00:15 AM  
What an idiot. Who brings a rifle into a close-quarters combat zone?
 
2013-01-18 08:02:08 AM  
TommyymmoT

BunkoSquad: Oh God, it wasn't a Black Panther, was it?

Or....well, a Black anything?

If he were black, the SWAT team would have mowed him down just on spec.
I mean a black man, with a rifle, in a mall, in UTAH?



Nah, "hello Mr. Malone, how can I help you today"
 
2013-01-18 08:02:42 AM  

computerguyUT: No, the only black person in Utah lives down the street from me and I think he was home that day...


lulz

Xenomech: What an idiot. Who brings a rifle into a close-quarters combat zone?


Say whaaaa?
 
2013-01-18 08:03:09 AM  
Imagine the terror if he lit up a smoke too.
 
2013-01-18 08:03:17 AM  

Dadoody: If I was a bad man with a firearm, and knowing the Open Carry laws, if I'm in a State where open carrying is legal as long as the weapon is unloaded, I would soooooo be scoring me a free AR.


Betting your life there isn't one in the chamber?

/Of course there isn't.
/No one (else) would ever break the law...
 
2013-01-18 08:04:36 AM  
I wonder if it would make all these gun nuts nervous if I walked into a store with an open-topped vat of molten rock (wearing protective gear, of course) and pretended as though I had shaky balance as I got into line right behind them at the cashier.

/law-abiding citizen
//I just like doing chemistry
///time and place
 
2013-01-18 08:05:57 AM  

Deep Contact: Imagine the terror if he lit up a smoke too.


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2013-01-18 08:06:44 AM  

muck4doo: Have a flashlight in your house? You scared of the dark, pussy?


Lighting a room is the same as shooting a human being.
 
2013-01-18 08:06:48 AM  

way south: Deep Contact: Imagine the terror if he lit up a smoke too.

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That cop -- he has no gun
 
2013-01-18 08:06:56 AM  
Even in the "Wild West", which in most cases was much less wild then we have been led to think it was, open carry was often prohibited in bars and establishments, and even entire towns.
 
2013-01-18 08:07:53 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Xenomech: What an idiot. Who brings a rifle into a close-quarters combat zone?

Say whaaaa?


Rifles are for longer range fire. You'd want a sub-machinegun or a combat shotgun if you're going toe-to-toe with baddies around tight corners in between the aisles of a department store.
 
2013-01-18 08:09:00 AM  

loser0: way south: Deep Contact: Imagine the terror if he lit up a smoke too.

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That cop -- he has no gun


He's also arresting a rich guy, so the whole thing is off.
 
2013-01-18 08:10:04 AM  
wow, what a farking little cowardly asshole!
 
2013-01-18 08:10:36 AM  

Xenomech: Rifles are for longer range fire. You'd want a sub-machinegun or a combat shotgun if you're going toe-to-toe with baddies around tight corners in between the aisles of a department store.


I don't know, the US military thinks differently.
 
2013-01-18 08:12:34 AM  
I mean, I carry with me all the time.  Granted it's only a Walther PPQ; but this guy is just being a farking dick.

"My girlfriend said these size 20 panties don't fit her.  Ahem...I SAID, MY GIRLFRIEND BOUGHT THESE SIZE 20 PANTIES, AND THEY DON'T FIT HER.  DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?"
 
2013-01-18 08:14:13 AM  

moothemagiccow: Farkage: moothemagiccow: doglover: html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.

Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.

You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.

I bought a fire extinguisher with the intent of never using it. Is that the same as not having one too?

If there's a fire in your house, and you don't use it, yes. Someone shot the guy more than once, and he didn't pull the gun. I don't care if it was a pellet gun.


I had a grease fire in my kitchen and I put the lid on the frying pan to take care of it. should I get rid of my fire extinguisher becuse I have proven it isn't, and won't ever be needed?
 
2013-01-18 08:14:32 AM  

James F. Campbell: Tell me this, gun nuts: if an armed society is supposed to be a polite society, why are so many of you in this thread admitting that this guy is an asshole?


For one thing that is obviously a quote that is simply overused by idiots who are incapable of generating a rational argument with evidence and supporting points. Much like the farkwads who can't come up with anything more than small penis or Rambo references. The quote also implies that the entire society is armed rather than just one individual in a society that fears firearms.

While I would feel perfectly comfortable shopping at a store where someone has an AR-15 on their back, I am capable of understanding that many people are not. Unlike most of the farktards on this site who are incapable of observing the world through a different lens.

At this current time, in our country The United States of America, it is not culturally acceptable to walk around with an AR-15 on your back. Anyone who does walk around with an AR-15 on their back is obviously looking for attention and shock value. It pisses me off for the same reason that it pisses me off when Lady Gaga wears a meat suit. Nobody likes an attention whore. Which creates it's own MC Escher mindfark paradox problem. By consciously making the decision to not like an attention whore, we are giving them attention. Instead we should take a zen approach and clear our minds of thought completely when thinking about attention whores.
 
2013-01-18 08:14:34 AM  
To me it looks like this guy should be tazed and while he convulses on the floor take his guns from him.
 
2013-01-18 08:15:50 AM  
This thread was going well for longer than I expected, until the gay rights comparisons came up. Good job, some of you!
 
2013-01-18 08:16:32 AM  
Right wing fear identification chart

Not scary:

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Scary:

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2013-01-18 08:17:15 AM  

sethen320: Bladel: I wonder what would happen if two such asshats would target the same store on the same day for this stunt.

Would the immediately recognize each other as kindred souls?

Or more likely, would they both assume the other was coming for their gun, and turn the Food Court in to a 21st Century OK Coral?

Do you really believe that?


Yes, that's what they really believe. Personally, I think they need to quit judging everybody by what they see at the gay gang-bangs, but what are you going to do?
 
2013-01-18 08:18:43 AM  

numbquil: At this current time, in our country The United States of America, it is not culturally acceptable to walk around with an AR-15 on your back.


When and where has it ever been? You talk as if the US is the exception.
 
2013-01-18 08:19:14 AM  
OMG, that guy walked into a store with an ultra-killy, über-evil "weapon of war" and masses of people didn't spontaneously drop dead?

It's almost like people control their guns and are responsible for the method in which their used.
 
2013-01-18 08:20:11 AM  

moonscatter: This dude just doesn't understand tacky behavior. What woukd Miss Manners say?


His rifle color clashes with his shirt.
 
2013-01-18 08:20:45 AM  

This About That: Now, if his dick was hanging out, he would have been arrested.


#1) That has to be the best, most insightful comment on this in this thread.
#2) It goes to our essentially Puritan underpinning of 'Murica
#3) I know that for side arms, here in CT he could be charged with "Brandishing".

This is also an intelligent bit of insight- do not dismiss it-

FlashHarry: wow, what a farking little cowardly asshole!


If Odgen can't afford police then I'm all for carrying guns and ammunition. Must be an awful place if you need to carry weaponry into a JCP. I would never move there and I don't think you should either.
He is also a Serial Bed Wetter.
 
2013-01-18 08:21:10 AM  

numbquil: James F. Campbell: Tell me this, gun nuts: if an armed society is supposed to be a polite society, why are so many of you in this thread admitting that this guy is an asshole?

For one thing that is obviously a quote that is simply overused by idiots who are incapable of generating a rational argument with evidence and supporting points. Much like the farkwads who can't come up with anything more than small penis or Rambo references. The quote also implies that the entire society is armed rather than just one individual in a society that fears firearms.

While I would feel perfectly comfortable shopping at a store where someone has an AR-15 on their back, I am capable of understanding that many people are not. Unlike most of the farktards on this site who are incapable of observing the world through a different lens.

At this current time, in our country The United States of America, it is not culturally acceptable to walk around with an AR-15 on your back. Anyone who does walk around with an AR-15 on their back is obviously looking for attention and shock value. It pisses me off for the same reason that it pisses me off when Lady Gaga wears a meat suit. Nobody likes an attention whore. Which creates it's own MC Escher mindfark paradox problem. By consciously making the decision to not like an attention whore, we are giving them attention. Instead we should take a zen approach and clear our minds of thought completely when thinking about attention whores.


I stand by my opinion.
 
2013-01-18 08:22:02 AM  

hinten: muck4doo: Have a flashlight in your house? You scared of the dark, pussy?

Lighting a room is the same as shooting a human being.


Who told you that? Being unprepared is being unprepared. But you go ahead and trust the government to get that flashlight for you.
 
2013-01-18 08:22:07 AM  

Elvis Presleys Death Throne: It's almost like people control their guns and are responsible for the method in which their used.


Until they decide it's killing time, anyway.
 
2013-01-18 08:22:28 AM  

mamoru: Brontes: Will our next cause be to ban all fatty foods because heart disease kills 60 times as many people as gun homicides?

When the fatty foods that I eat kill others instead of just killing me, then perhaps we can consider it. If people only used guns for suicide, then perhaps that way the problem might be comparable, too.

Otherwise, false comparison is false.


A fat person tripped and fell into me tearing my acl. Being fat is not a victimless crime.
 
2013-01-18 08:22:29 AM  

zerkalo: 22. High and tight haircut. AR-15 strapped. And you're not overseas serving your country, why?

somethings shoot back


THIS! I recently bought a copy of "Shotgun News" for the first time in a dozen years or so. I immediately noticed that the advertising centered around middle-aged men carrying AR-15s with a bunch of crap strapped to the rails (sporting guns?). The defining feature was that nearly every one had that same haircut, and was dressed in some sort of OD uniform, some with helmets and utility belts. The kicker was that several were wearing headsets (to communicate with other Real Patriots?).

Assuming that the ad writers know their market, this magazine made me feel uneasy about the mental health of its readership. Are all gun owners "coming out" and living their GI Joe fantasies? Combined with the number of morans who are suddenly feeling the need to pack rifles when they buy milk, I think it might be so.

/What kind of coward pussy does this?
 
2013-01-18 08:24:30 AM  
BLRBMAGARBMANARBLE ASSAULT RIFFLE!!!!!

OOOHH it has a PISTOL GRIP IT'S GOING TO KILL US ALL!!

MOAR LAWS!! MOAR LAWS!!

We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

Actually....Utah. STFU haters and crawl back into your holes.
Utah = good gun laws.

Not the murder capital of anything, actually one of the safest states in the nation.
HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE!! Thar are BLACK guns in UTAH!!

The biggest problem we have here is the gangbangers overflowing the Rectopia of Kalifornia.

Keep your crappy laws, your tree huggers and your gangbangers.
 
2013-01-18 08:24:54 AM  

We get it! The guns are black!!!

 
2013-01-18 08:25:14 AM  
Has anybody mentioned that this picture depicts poor muzzle control? Because this picture depicts poor muzzle control. Adjust your shoulder strap, Pudgy, and quit pointing that thing at the dude next you at the counter.

Also, as I live in an open carry state, I'm used to seeing people carrying around a handgun. Hell, sometimes I carry around a handgun (in the woods, at the gas station on the way to the range, you know, places where that's reasonable), but carrying around a rifle of any sort like this in a department store is just douchebaggery. If the point you're trying to make is that you're a sensationalist, attention whore ass hat, well congrats, you've succeeded. If your point is anything other than that, you probably did more harm than good to your cause.
 
2013-01-18 08:25:37 AM  

TheEdibleSnuggie: I mean, I carry with me all the time.  Granted it's only a Walther PPQ; but this guy is just being a farking dick.

"My girlfriend said these size 20 panties don't fit her.  Ahem...I SAID, MY GIRLFRIEND BOUGHT THESE SIZE 20 PANTIES, AND THEY DON'T FIT HER.  DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?"


CSB

I live in West Chester, PA about 30 mins from Philadelphia. My wife went to Best Buy a town over about a week ago to pick up an iPad mini. So she goes in, gets the iPad, and starts discussing service plans with the salesguy to talk protection plans because my wife is not exactly easy on portable electronics. So as they're talking, in walks a dude open carrying a handgun. Walks over the the counter and plops an iPad with an obvious bullet hole through it down and says "I have the protection plan. I'd like a new iPad". Upon seeing the gun, the salesguy dealing with my wife calmly moved her over a few places on the counter while another associate called the cops and then dealt with the dude with the gun. My wife said the guy carrying was very calm and very polite, but according to the salesguy they had a dude come in open carrying a few weeks prior to that who was irate and making a bunch of demands, so they were being very cautious as a result. Wife stuck around long enough to overhear that the Best Buy protection plan doesn't cover bullet holes and that he wouldn't be getting a new iPad. She didn't get to stick around to see how he handled the police.

/CSB
 
2013-01-18 08:26:36 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: It's almost like people control their guns and are responsible for the method in which their used.

Until they decide it's killing time, anyway.


lulz. That's what they are all doing. Just waiting to kill you.

Door: knock knock
HWC: Nooooo!
Door: Gun
HWC: Nooooo! Leave me alone! I don't wanna die! Wait for me to call the cops. The government is here for my protection
Door: hold on, i need someone who gives a rats ass about you to pull the trigger
HWC: OMFG!!!!
 
2013-01-18 08:26:54 AM  

fusillade762: Between him and these nitwits

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Seriously guys, you're not helping your cause.


In a way they are helping. They're forcing many people to reveal their true feelings about the subject, that their goal isn't the eradication of gun violence, but the eradication of guns themselves.
 
2013-01-18 08:27:15 AM  

Farce-Side: Has anybody mentioned that this picture depicts poor muzzle control? Because this picture depicts poor muzzle control. Adjust your shoulder strap, Pudgy, and quit pointing that thing at the dude next you at the counter.



Same thing I said. He is going to shoot someone's nuts off.
 
2013-01-18 08:28:08 AM  

computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!


I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.
 
2013-01-18 08:30:28 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.


I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.
 
2013-01-18 08:31:24 AM  

2 grams: We get it! The guns are black!!!


Well done.
 
2013-01-18 08:31:45 AM  

Blink: I wonder if it would make all these gun nuts nervous if I walked into a store with an open-topped vat of molten rock (wearing protective gear, of course) and pretended as though I had shaky balance as I got into line right behind them at the cashier.

/law-abiding citizen
//I just like doing chemistry
///time and place


Go for it. We live in a nation where you are free to do as you wish so long as it does not harm someone else. I can carry my goddamn rifle around with me, and unless prohibited by law, or I actively engage in hurting someone with it, I'm perfectly free to do so.
 
2013-01-18 08:31:47 AM  

doglover: Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.


All of this training being taken into account, a gun really seems to be a dubious weapon for self-defense. If you're never going to draw on someone you don't intend to kill, and you're never going to use the weapon preemptively, or against a less deadly form of assault, it seems to me that you're employing a policy of relinquishing the initiative against a weapon that overwhelmingly stacks the odds in favor of the aggressor.

At least if someone is going to attack you with a sword, you have a few tempos to adopt a defensive posture while they draw and close the distance. Statistically, a gun is roughly equivalent to a knife in a surprise 21-foot drill (give or take a few feet). Against a firearm, it would seem that the only high-percentage options would be conflict avoidance techniques, in which case why do you need the weapon at all?

The only place I can see a firearm being useful in (other than home defense) are group situations like mass shootings and large robberies, where the assailant is unaware that you're carrying. Open carry just marks you as a primary target, so that's out. And is it really worth it to spend hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars preparing for the extremely unlikely scenario where having a gun might help you save a few lives, but also greatly increases your risk of getting killed in a confrontation?

I wholeheartedly support people owning a shotgun or rifle for home defense, especially if they live in an isolated area. The more I consider the prospect of carrying a handgun for defense, the less it seems like a good idea, tactically. Far too much liability for way too little payoff. I'd rather have a knife, and a small one that I can hide in my hand at that. I think it would be far more useful in the kinds of situations that a person is most likely to encounter.
 
2013-01-18 08:32:16 AM  

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: It's almost like people control their guns and are responsible for the method in which their used.

Until they decide it's killing time, anyway.

lulz. That's what they are all doing. Just waiting to kill you.

Door: knock knock
HWC: Nooooo!
Door: Gun
HWC: Nooooo! Leave me alone! I don't wanna die! Wait for me to call the cops. The government is here for my protection
Door: hold on, i need someone who gives a rats ass about you to pull the trigger
HWC: OMFG!!!!


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That's just silly, why go door to door when there are turkey shoots all over town?



That's your hero James Holmes. You know, the responsible legal gun owner that decided he didn't want to be responsible anymore. His real problem seems to be that he hasn't come out and said he did it for freedom. Then he would be revered like your other hero, Tim McVeigh.
 
2013-01-18 08:33:02 AM  

ThunderPelvis: cman: I wonder what the reaction was in the 60s when people saw interracial couples holding hands entering businesses.

If you dont fight for rights they tend to disappear.

Oh, for the love of...this shiat right here is why I have to drink.

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Wait wait... you're supposed to have a REASON to drink?

/did anyone get hurt? Nope.
//Even an idiot with a gun can be nice and not crazy.
///sanity is still debatable for -this- piece of hardware.
 
2013-01-18 08:34:13 AM  

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.


I can leave my house with no weapons, pussy.
 
2013-01-18 08:34:20 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: It's almost like people control their guns and are responsible for the method in which their used.

Until they decide it's killing time, anyway.

lulz. That's what they are all doing. Just waiting to kill you.

Door: knock knock
HWC: Nooooo!
Door: Gun
HWC: Nooooo! Leave me alone! I don't wanna die! Wait for me to call the cops. The government is here for my protection
Door: hold on, i need someone who gives a rats ass about you to pull the trigger
HWC: OMFG!!!!

[cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com image 300x315]


That's just silly, why go door to door when there are turkey shoots all over town?

That's your hero James Holmes. You know, the responsible legal gun owner that decided he didn't want to be responsible anymore. His real problem seems to be that he hasn't come out and said he did it for freedom. Then he would be revered like your other hero, Tim McVeigh.


Door: knock knock
HWC: Oh noooo! It's james holmes call the cops! They will save me!
Door: You're farking dumber than my knob.
 
2013-01-18 08:34:56 AM  
It might take some effort, but we can all still feel threatened and outraged

If you need a high powered rifle to protect yourself while shopping, then yes, you definitely feel threatened.
 
2013-01-18 08:35:02 AM  

keylock71: "Look everyone!! My guns are fashion accessories!!"

People like this guy in the story just sound like a bunch of chicken shiat wannabe tough guys.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 470x616]

"Honey? I'm going to Walmart... They're having a sale on fudge cake. Need me to pick you up same tampons?"


"Shotgun News" reader?
 
2013-01-18 08:35:28 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.


Which is worse, the person who carries a gun around and does not harm anyone, or the ones that want to ban a shotgun just because it has a pistol grip?
 
2013-01-18 08:36:46 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: It's almost like people control their guns and are responsible for the method in which their used.

Until they decide it's killing time, anyway.

lulz. That's what they are all doing. Just waiting to kill you.

Door: knock knock
HWC: Nooooo!
Door: Gun
HWC: Nooooo! Leave me alone! I don't wanna die! Wait for me to call the cops. The government is here for my protection
Door: hold on, i need someone who gives a rats ass about you to pull the trigger
HWC: OMFG!!!!

[cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com image 300x315]


That's just silly, why go door to door when there are turkey shoots all over town?

That's your hero James Holmes. You know, the responsible legal gun owner that decided he didn't want to be responsible anymore. His real problem seems to be that he hasn't come out and said he did it for freedom. Then he would be revered like your other hero, Tim McVeigh.


Do you suffer from constant nosebleeds? Does it ever hurt?
 
2013-01-18 08:37:20 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.

I can leave my house with no weapons, pussy.


No you can't. You're hoping the government weapons are there to protect you from other people that might have them. You also hope that your government savior can take away any weapons from all the scary people who live in the world. You are the biggest pussy of them all. Scary gun says BOO!
 
2013-01-18 08:38:22 AM  

loser0: way south: Deep Contact: Imagine the terror if he lit up a smoke too.

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That cop -- he has no gun


Funny thing is they invented the game back when anyone could get a gun but no one needed them.

/"Something's rotten in the state of Denmark..."
 
2013-01-18 08:39:13 AM  

I live in Virginia, about as Gun nutty a state as exists, and here are the rules:


OC is the act of carrying a firearm (mostly handguns however rifles and shotguns may be OC'd) in plain sight on your person while conducting your daily business. This normally means a handgun secured in a holster on the outside of your clothing much the same way a police officer would carry their weapon. Alternative options would be a shoulder holster, "in the waistband" holster (providing your shirt is tucked in exposing the butt of the handgun) and tactical / drop leg holsters. "In the waistband" holsters are not considered "concealed" under VA law since about 1/3 of the firearm (the butt) is exposed (See example pictures below). Just take care not to let your shirt come un-tucked and cover the firearm if you are not in possession of a CHP. Carrying a firearm in your hands, whether handgun or long gun is not OC! That is considered "brandishing" and it's against the law. The proper way to OC a rifle or shotgun is with a sling, however OC'ing a rifle or shotgun around town is not common and will likely merit you a visit from the police, possibly with guns drawn on you.

source

 
2013-01-18 08:39:44 AM  
I am a gun owner. I've had a concealed carry--though I don't have one today, because I don't need one--and I used to be a bouncer. That is just background information though. What I learned over the years was that you don't carry a loaded weapon, especially in public, without good reason.

When I was bouncing, I didn't carry, because in a shuffle, you don't want to lose a loaded weapon, not in a crowded club. Even when hunting, I don't load a weapon, until I actually get to the area where I intend to hunt, because of the chance of accidental discharge. Even with a safety on, the best way to prevent accidents with a weapon, even if you are alone or somewhere remote, is to simply not have it loaded. Trip and fall, sudden stop, crash, whatever, things can happen. You reduce that chance by simply removing the possibility of the weapon firing. In amongst people, a LOT can go wrong, and carrying a loaded weapon in public is not the brightest thing. People can grab the weapon, all sorts of things can go wrong. When I did carry, it was because I was dropping off deposits, and it was in Boston, and near the Combat Zone, and I'm glad I did carry, because those were sort of wild and wooly days, and thankfully, I never had fire at people, and never even had to draw on someone. I was mugged when carrying, by a guy with a knife, and the $75 in my wallet wasn't worth shooting someone over, and in the situation, I never felt that I was in danger if I just cooperated--guess I got lucky that I was mugged by a professional, because he even let me keep the wallet.

While I was bouncing, we were offered stun guns, and pepper spray, and as a team we refused, because when you carry a weapon, you have to think of the environment. Pepper spray is sort of indiscriminate, and gassing patrons who aren't involved in a dust up is a bad idea. And dangerous, if someone has respiratory problems or asthma or the like. Stun guns and tasers can be taken, and used on you or someone else, and that is a recipe for disaster. A gun, in a crowded club is even more so.

I am a gun owner. I like to squeeze off rounds for practice, I like hunting. Shooting is a practical skill, but you have to be responsible with a weapon. Not just for yourself, but those around you. When I was carrying, because I was in a city, I loaded Glaser rounds, because IF I had to shoot, I didn't want to put folks in nearby buildings in danger if I missed. Nothing ruins someone's day like sitting in your living room, and having a round slam into you through a wall or door. You have to think before you carry. Not just carry for kicks, because when you have a tool with you, you carry what you need. You carry a weapon, you have a responsibility not just yourself, but to those around you, because very quickly, folks around you can get brought into a mess if you get into trouble. That means you think about what you need, and the needs of those around you. Carrying, just because, that works for off duty cops. They may need a weapon, and quickly. For security personnel, you have to be careful of those around you, and weigh the options and needs. For a private citizen, you have to be even MOAR careful, because you aren't an officer. You may want to carry in some neighborhoods, on some business, but carrying to a Little League game only increases the risk to those around you--because accidents do happen, and they happen to folks who are careless. Carrying without good reason is an invitation for disaster, and you wander through thick brush and unsure footing with a loaded weapon, you can blow a hole in a tree, but doing in an area that is even thinly populated puts folks at risk. You have to be smart with a weapon, and you have to think.

I am all for the right to bear arms. I have carried in the past, and I'd do it again, easily, but only under the right circumstances, because as a responsible gun owner, I understand that having a loaded weapon IS a responsibility, not just a right. Rights and responsibilities go together, and the exercise of one without the other is asinine.
 
2013-01-18 08:40:14 AM  

Farkage: moothemagiccow: Farkage: moothemagiccow: doglover: html_007: I am surprised someone didn't see him walking twoards the entrancet to the mall and thought he may have been coming to the store to shoot it up, and then pull out their concealed handgun and drop a couple rounds into this idiot.

Then you're a moron.

Do you understand the concept of license? You have to pass tests and complete training to get a CCW. Did you see the guy last week who was being assaulted by a guy with a pellet gun but didn't pull his real gun? That's how you're supposed to react.

You're supposed to buy a gun and never use it? Why that's the exact same thing as not having one. Curious.

I bought a fire extinguisher with the intent of never using it. Is that the same as not having one too?

If there's a fire in your house, and you don't use it, yes. Someone shot the guy more than once, and he didn't pull the gun. I don't care if it was a pellet gun.

I had a grease fire in my kitchen and I put the lid on the frying pan to take care of it. should I get rid of my fire extinguisher becuse I have proven it isn't, and won't ever be needed?


I guess not, since fire is a real thing that can kill you, your family and neighbors, as opposed to whatever boogieman a gun is supposed to protect you from.
 
2013-01-18 08:41:20 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: *head desk*


He kinda has a point, though if you think about it.

Farkage: I bought a fire extinguisher with the intent of never using it. Is that the same as not having one too?


Do you take your fire extinguisher to the mall with you?

way south: Betting your life there isn't one in the chamber?


This is silly. Are you saying that if someone with the initiative, malicious intent, and a concealed handgun draws on an unsuspecting person with a rifle slung over his back, the two are somehow on equal tactical footing because there's one round in the rifle's chamber? That AR-15 is worse than useless.
 
2013-01-18 08:42:37 AM  

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.

I can leave my house with no weapons, pussy.

No you can't. You're hoping the government weapons are there to protect you from other people that might have them.


No I'm not. I'm not afraid of the world, you are. I don't even lock my door at night. You own weapons to pretend like you're in control. You're a sad little man who at the very least recognizes how small he is. How often did you get beat up in school? This level of paranoia comes from somewhere.

You also hope that your government savior can take away any weapons from all the scary people who live in the world. You are the biggest pussy of them all. Scary gun says BOO!

One day they will, and you won't do anything about it, because you're a pussy.
 
2013-01-18 08:42:44 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: In a way they are helping. They're forcing many people to reveal their true feelings about the subject, that their goal isn't the eradication of gun violence, but the eradication of guns themselves.


This is what they actually believe.
 
2013-01-18 08:42:50 AM  
Oh no wait, the gun is actually more likely to kill you, your family, or your neighbors than the boogieman or the fire. Imagine that.
 
2013-01-18 08:44:18 AM  

People_are_Idiots: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

Which is worse, the person who carries a gun around and does not harm anyone, or the ones that want to ban a shotgun just because it has a pistol grip?


I don't really understand what scale is being applied here.
 
2013-01-18 08:45:27 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.

I can leave my house with no weapons, pussy.

No you can't. You're hoping the government weapons are there to protect you from other people that might have them.

No I'm not. I'm not afraid of the world, you are. I don't even lock my door at night. You own weapons to pretend like you're in control. You're a sad little man who at the very least recognizes how small he is. How often did you get beat up in school? This level of paranoia comes from somewhere.

You also hope that your government savior can take away any weapons from all the scary people who live in the world. You are the biggest pussy of them all. Scary gun says BOO!

One day they will, and you won't do anything about it, because you're a pussy.


LOL! If you lived in the caveman days you would have protested the power of fire. Such a sad little scared man you are.

/The gun says BOO!
 
2013-01-18 08:46:22 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: I don't really understand what scale is being applied here


You don't understand much. Period.
 
2013-01-18 08:48:28 AM  

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.

I can leave my house with no weapons, pussy.

No you can't. You're hoping the government weapons are there to protect you from other people that might have them.

No I'm not. I'm not afraid of the world, you are. I don't even lock my door at night. You own weapons to pretend like you're in control. You're a sad little man who at the very least recognizes how small he is. How often did you get beat up in school? This level of paranoia comes from somewhere.

You also hope that your government savior can take away any weapons from all the scary people who live in the world. You are the biggest pussy of them all. Scary gun says BOO!

One day they will, and you won't do anything about it, because you're a pussy.

LOL! If you lived in the caveman days you would have protested the power of fire. Such a sad little scared man you are.

/The gun says BOO!


That's nice honey.

Listen, I saw on the police blotter that they spotted some graffiti a few blocks away from you. You'd better lock up and make sure your gun is clean, there might be a "gang banger" somewhere near by that will get you. I'll let you know when it's safe again.

/the bad guy says BOO
 
2013-01-18 08:49:06 AM  

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I don't really understand what scale is being applied here

You don't understand much. Period.


Sick burn.
 
2013-01-18 08:50:50 AM  

muck4doo: hinten: muck4doo: Have a flashlight in your house? You scared of the dark, pussy?

Lighting a room is the same as shooting a human being.

Who told you that? Being unprepared is being unprepared. But you go ahead and trust the government to get that flashlight for you.


The government is my representation and I will do everything in my power to have it represent me in such a fashion that it will not have to be prepared in such a fashion myself. It is simply not my job.
 
2013-01-18 08:52:01 AM  

TommyymmoT: Eventually, one of those assholes are going to get shot by somebody thinking they're some crazed gunman, because seriously, who brings an AR-15 to the mall?


HE does. Didn't you RTFA? Actions like his offend people (mostly overage children who want someone else to look after them) because it busts their illusion of "Feeling Safe" and makes them realize they aren't. "I don't know why he has a gun or what he intends to do." they say but they leave off admitting that they're thinking "and I'm totally helpless to do anything about it." Especially when they look around and there is not a cop anywhere to be seen. Funny about that, there never is unless you just rolled through a stop sign.
 
2013-01-18 08:53:35 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: That's nice honey.

Listen, I saw on the police blotter that they spotted some graffiti a few blocks away from you. You'd better lock up and make sure your gun is clean, there might be a "gang banger" somewhere near by that will get you. I'll let you know when it's safe again.

/the bad guy says BOO


HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I don't really understand what scale is being applied here

You don't understand much. Period.

Sick burn.


BOO! says the gun. Run away! Run away! There went HWC off into the sunset, shiatting his pants, as people had guns and used their 1st amendment rights to disagree with him. Someday he would come back though as soon as all the non-government weren't armed, and he could feel free to spew his derp across the land again. Thus became the legend of little farking HWC Derp Seed.
 
2013-01-18 08:54:24 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What a worthless douchebag. It's legal to carry a chainsaw too, but you'd have to be a pathetic piece of shiat to walk around with one in a shopping mall.


And that is strange why? Walked around a local mall twice with a chain saw, nobody gave me even a second glance. (local sears is connected to a mall, bought a couple chain saws there, walked through the mall to my car...) It isn't like a chain saw is the most effective mass murder weapon ever.
 
2013-01-18 08:56:32 AM  
How do we know he's a law abiding citizen?  Does he have a special sticker on his gun or something?
 
2013-01-18 08:56:34 AM  

smokingcrator: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What a worthless douchebag. It's legal to carry a chainsaw too, but you'd have to be a pathetic piece of shiat to walk around with one in a shopping mall.

And that is strange why? Walked around a local mall twice with a chain saw, nobody gave me even a second glance. (local sears is connected to a mall, bought a couple chain saws there, walked through the mall to my car...) It isn't like a chain saw is the most effective mass murder weapon ever.


What da fark you need a chainsaw for? Regular old fashioned saw can do the same job. Just ask HWC.
 
2013-01-18 08:58:26 AM  

Stimpy's Lost Fart: To me it looks like this guy should be tazed and while he convulses on the floor take his guns from him.


That would certainly make a point in no uncertain terms. "See how easily I took these from you? This is why what you're doing is stupid. Here are your guns back. I'm keeping your ammo."
 
2013-01-18 08:58:27 AM  

Z-clipped: cman: So people fighting for their rights is not the same as people fighting for their rights?

You don't have the right to openly carry a loaded rifle in the mall.
This dickhead was "exercising" the tacit permission of the owner of the store (which could be rescinded at any time, for any reason), not his rights.


That is opinion on how rights work. Another way and one I personally describe to is that when you have a right, you can voluntarily give it up by doing something, such as entering a store, but only iff (if and only if) the store requires you too. If the store does not require you to give up the right when you enter it then you don't lose the right and maintain it.
 
2013-01-18 08:58:45 AM  

Vodka Zombie: How do we know he's a law abiding citizen?  Does he have a special sticker on his gun or something?


He wears a badge to make HWC not shiat his pants.

/Then HWC cums them
 
2013-01-18 08:59:12 AM  

Z-clipped: way south: Betting your life there isn't one in the chamber?

This is silly. Are you saying that if someone with the initiative, malicious intent, and a concealed handgun draws on an unsuspecting person with a rifle slung over his back, the two are somehow on equal tactical footing because there's one round in the rifle's chamber? That AR-15 is worse than useless.


Its not about the tactics.
The question is whether he would make a motion to use his rifle (or the handgun at his side) when you approach him. Because you'll have to commit to murder if he does.
Is a rifle worth twenty years in the pen?

/If the goal is theft then the point of having a gun is to gain compliance.
/A man open carrying two weapons doesn't seem like the complying type, just saying.
/If the goal is murder then you are just as likely to murder an unarmed person from behind.
/More likely, in my view, because the risk of injury is a bigger problem for the predator than the prey.
 
2013-01-18 09:00:19 AM  
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2013-01-18 09:00:29 AM  

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: That's nice honey.

Listen, I saw on the police blotter that they spotted some graffiti a few blocks away from you. You'd better lock up and make sure your gun is clean, there might be a "gang banger" somewhere near by that will get you. I'll let you know when it's safe again.

/the bad guy says BOO

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I don't really understand what scale is being applied here

You don't understand much. Period.

Sick burn.

BOO! says the gun. Run away! Run away! There went HWC off into the sunset, shiatting his pants, as people had guns and used their 1st amendment rights to disagree with him.


Says the man that can't leave his shack without being armed and has serious buttconsternation that I'm using speech he disagrees with.
 
2013-01-18 09:00:31 AM  

Mentat: Well, I'm sure that makes the families of 20 dead first graders feel better.


I worry about how these people feel.

ALL DAY

EVERY DAY

It's crippling.
 
2013-01-18 09:00:58 AM  

Abacus9: Gyrfalcon: Why do you need an assault rifle to go shopping? No, seriously. Bearing in mind that a weapon is only useful if it is in your hands when you need it, realistically speaking, why do you need a rifle when you're shopping?

What I always find odd is that they always just answer with: "I don't NEED it, but it's my RIGHT to carry it!" Seriously, when did grown adults start acting like this. Doing something just because you can, for no good reason.


Tell me about it.  This shiat really creeps some people out.

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2013-01-18 09:01:33 AM  

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Believe it or not, flamethrowers are legal in most places

/But stupid
 
2013-01-18 09:02:42 AM  
Damn, seems I've got a new fan.
 
2013-01-18 09:04:38 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.

I can leave my house with no weapons, pussy.


I think you should move to Flint, Michigan. I'd give you an afternoon before you had brown stains in your underwear and were carrying, legal or not.
 
2013-01-18 09:04:49 AM  

Xenomech: Tat'dGreaser: Xenomech: What an idiot. Who brings a rifle into a close-quarters combat zone?

Say whaaaa?

Rifles are for longer range fire. You'd want a sub-machinegun or a combat shotgun if you're going toe-to-toe with baddies around tight corners in between the aisles of a department store.


Or a Ford Fiesta. It has a nice boot if you're some sort of mafia game ranger. And the backseat, while it doesn't fold flat, accommodates the average 2.2 children. And everyone knows baddies drive corvettes.
 
2013-01-18 09:05:05 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: That's nice honey.

Listen, I saw on the police blotter that they spotted some graffiti a few blocks away from you. You'd better lock up and make sure your gun is clean, there might be a "gang banger" somewhere near by that will get you. I'll let you know when it's safe again.

/the bad guy says BOO

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I don't really understand what scale is being applied here

You don't understand much. Period.

Sick burn.

BOO! says the gun. Run away! Run away! There went HWC off into the sunset, shiatting his pants, as people had guns and used their 1st amendment rights to disagree with him.

Says the man that can't leave his shack without being armed and has serious buttconsternation that I'm using speech he disagrees with.


Did I ever say i go everywhere armed? No. I don't go armed anywhere. I find it hilarious that you are shiatting yourself over the evil guns though that might just jump out and kill you anywhere. Do you fear tire swings too? Meanwhile I'm sure you have been in a car sometime in the last 24 hours.
 
2013-01-18 09:05:18 AM  

This About That: Now, if his dick was hanging out, he would have been arrested.


Wouldn't want any children made in this nasty incident.
 
2013-01-18 09:06:08 AM  

FlashHarry: wow, what a farking little cowardly asshole


You mean the manager that didn't ask him to leave?
 
2013-01-18 09:08:08 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Damn, seems I've got a new fan.


CSB time:

Your new fan was the very first person I put on my ignore list when I came to Fark.
 
2013-01-18 09:08:22 AM  

hinten: muck4doo: hinten: muck4doo: Have a flashlight in your house? You scared of the dark, pussy?

Lighting a room is the same as shooting a human being.

Who told you that? Being unprepared is being unprepared. But you go ahead and trust the government to get that flashlight for you.

The government is my representation and I will do everything in my power to have it represent me in such a fashion that it will not have to be prepared in such a fashion myself. It is simply not my job.


Well, if you trust you and your families lives to police response times in a break-in, you could be onto something. Maybe you could stall them with your gov't is my representation schtick. It worked for this guy.

Wife and daughters raped and Murdered while the police waited outside
 
2013-01-18 09:09:32 AM  

Farkage: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: We're not safe enough yet! We need Obummer to make us safffer!!

I like that the nutters that need weapons to leave their house feel that everyone else is safety obsessed.

I don't like it that the pants shiatters like yourself are willing to step all over everyone elses right's just because you think some evil gun is going to jump out at you someday and kill you. Especially those scary black ones.

I can leave my house with no weapons, pussy.

I think you should move to Flint, Michigan. I'd give you an afternoon before you had brown stains in your underwear and were carrying, legal or not.


I grew up in a shiat neighborhood with crackheads lighting up on my stoop. I assure you, I would manage to make it to the toilet for any defecating needs that might arise.

Well wait....do they still have plumbing in Flint?
 
2013-01-18 09:10:35 AM  
"He had the assault rifle over his shoulder," Yorgason said.

Even some gun advocates agree that carrying a high powered rifle into a busy store wasn't appropriate.

What evidence is there that this was either of those things? Did someone run the serial number? Why don't we arrest media people for printing baseless statements?
 
2013-01-18 09:11:18 AM  

Vodka Zombie: HotWingConspiracy: Damn, seems I've got a new fan.

CSB tim