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2013-01-17 08:04:55 PM
7 votes:
From the PDF:
Mississippi's Black students are hit the hardest by harsh discipline practices. Statewide, they are three times more likely to receive
an out-of-school suspension than their White peers, with an even greater disparity in some school districts.16 In Lawrence County,
for example, Black students are eight times more likely to receive an out-of-school suspension than White students


and

Black students are disproportionately affected by harsh discipline policies and practices in Mississippi. According to data gathered on 115 Mississippi school districts by the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights (OCR) in its Civil Rights Data Collection for the 2009-2010 school year, Black students, who made up half the student population in these districts, received almost 75% of the out-of-school suspensions in these districts, making them over three times more likely than White students to receive an out-of-school suspension.

Black students are often treated differently than White students who exhibit similar behavior. National research on student behavior has found that racial disparities in school discipline are not the result of Black students acting out more; rather the differences lie in how adults in the school building respond to student behavior. Broad, discretionary offense categories like "disorderly conduct," "disrespect of authority," or "disobedience" are mainly in the eye of the beholder, leaving significant room for implicit and explicit racial biases to creep into the discipline process and exacerbate disparities.60 This fact was also highlighted during interviews with multiple Mississippi students about their schools.


F(ck the Deep South.
2013-01-17 08:07:53 PM
6 votes:
Given this, it is no surprise that not only are Black students suspended, expelled, and arrested at school at rates higher than their White peers, but too often these punishments are for behavior that does not merit the severity of the disciplinary response. The stories that illustrate this, highlighted in the introduction to this report, are heartbreaking. In Holmes County a five-year-old Black child was escorted home in a sheriff car for the dress code violation of wearing shoes with some red and white symbols on them, where the dress code required solid black shoes. In Southaven, in response to an argument between three students on a school bus, police officers reportedly arrested a half dozen Black students, choked and tackled a Black female student, and threatened to shoot the other students on the bus.

We should spend more time fixing our nation and not building/destroying others.
2013-01-17 07:57:24 PM
6 votes:
In August, the Justice Department released a letter of findings charging that the police in Meridian routinely arrested children at schools without probable cause, merely on the referral of school personnel. The letter found that students had been incarcerated for "dress code violations, flatulence, profanity and disrespect."

Any takers on the race of the majority of these kids?
2013-01-17 09:09:52 PM
5 votes:
Cue the Mississippi hate. For all of you saying "fark mississippi", "fark the deep south" and "southern whites are the ones that fark things up", I highly suggest you move to Mississippi for a bit. Racial politics are played so hard by both sides that they frequently cut to the bone. You'll fit right in with the angry racists of all stripes that we have, and whatever side you favor, you'll have at least 50% of the population that agrees with you.

This makes me very, very angry. It shouldn't happen, and those involved should be penalized with the loss of their wealth and freedoms.

That said, if you haven't lived in the deep south, you probably don't understand the intractable problems that Mississippi faces in today's society. You think - "oh, if only those confederate loving, gun toting, bible thumping whites weren't so racist all of the problems would magically go away." It's not that simple. And if you think it is, you are part of the problem.
2013-01-17 09:19:43 PM
4 votes:
Jail for black kids who fart in the South and a slap on the wrist for HSBC execs who laundered BILLIONS of dollars for drug cartels and terrorists.

Just another day in America.
2013-01-17 08:49:52 PM
3 votes:
So, black kid farting = dangerous risk to society

White guy selling gun to felon = exercise of 2nd amendment rights

/ stay classy 'murrica
2013-01-17 08:27:31 PM
3 votes:

crazydave023: I wonder what the reason is behind doing this? There seems to be no real benefit to anyone by locking these kids up at such an early age.


Hm. 2 things.

1.  You start out in 1954 by saying, "N***, n***, n***." By 1968 you can't say "n***"-that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states' rights, and all that stuff, and you're getting so abstract. Now, you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.... "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N***, n***."

-Lee Atwater, describing the Republican Southern Strategy

2.  After years of widespread violence and sexual abuse at Mississippi's for-profit prison for juvenile offenders, state officials and civil rights groups signed aimed at overhauling a facility described by a federal judge as "a cesspool of unconstitutional and inhuman acts."

So ... race and money.
2013-01-17 08:05:07 PM
3 votes:
...like the five year-old who was sent home in a police car for "violating dress code" for not having black shoes, even though his mom had tried to color his shoes with a black marker.

fark Mississippi.

That is all.
2013-01-17 08:36:40 PM
2 votes:

namegoeshere: crazydave023: I wonder what the reason is behind doing this? There seems to be no real benefit to anyone by locking these kids up at such an early age.

For-profit juvenile jails. And they're just black kids. They'll end up behind bars eventually - might as well make some money off 'em.

/no I don't think this
//Mississippi school officials do, though


Plus once you have a criminal record, it's harder to get a decent job or exercise your right to vote.
2013-01-17 08:32:02 PM
2 votes:

grimlock1972: Someone need to face a nice long jail sentence for this.


But no one will. They'll get new jobs and more money.
2013-01-17 08:28:22 PM
2 votes:
Someone need to face a nice long jail sentence for this.
2013-01-17 08:27:35 PM
2 votes:

crazydave023: I wonder what the reason is behind doing this? There seems to be no real benefit to anyone by locking these kids up at such an early age.


For-profit juvenile jails. And they're just black kids. They'll end up behind bars eventually - might as well make some money off 'em.

/no I don't think this
//Mississippi school officials do, though
2013-01-17 08:14:52 PM
2 votes:
This is buried in the Main Page. It should have gone to Politics. This sh*t is the result of racial politics that the South has turned to since they lost the Civil War and their 'peculiar institution'.
2013-01-17 08:14:05 PM
2 votes:

Nadie_AZ: F(ck the Deep South.


To be honest I find these people anything but deep,  These are the sort of people that read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter in case they stumble across a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.
                            --Dennis Miller (before he went crazy)
2013-01-18 02:03:06 AM
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Abacus9:
The deep south gets singled out because the problem there is much more prevalent, and the problem is institutionalized like nowhere else in the U.S.

Neat opinion. Shame that's it's flat out false.


In what way is it false? We don't roll that way in the north.
2013-01-18 01:42:01 AM
1 votes:

ThrobblefootSpectre: Keizer_Ghidorah: So you're upset because he only mentioned one place where this occurs and because "Stop being bigoted towards bigotry!"?

I wasn't upset. Just hoping to dispel the blatant bigotry. On the other hand, you sound quite upset that I pointed out it's not just the deep south though, which is curious.

Singling out one group is pretty misleading yes. It's like saying "Gays should stop spreading aids so much." When it's not just a gay problem.


The deep south gets singled out because the problem there is much more prevalent, and the problem is institutionalized like nowhere else in the U.S.
2013-01-18 01:41:44 AM
1 votes:

Elegy: LindenFark: False premise. The complaint is not "Racism is the cause of all problems". The complaint is "Institutional racism is a huge problem", so yes, if the institutions weren't so racist, that particular problem would go away. It's more than stating the obvious. It's worth pointing out that 60 years ago the entire country was like that and we've made a fair amount of progress. The deep south can and should aspire to keep up.

How is it a false premise to say that Farkers who post drivel insinuating that all of Mississippi's problems stem from good-ole-boy-racism not only misunderstand the problem, but are actually part of the problem? That was a comment directed to other commenters here, not at TFA, which seems to be where you're pointing.

Now, to address the substance of your post, yes, institutional racism is a huge problem here, as it is everywhere, and no, racism is not the cause of ALL of Mississippi's problems. What I'm trying to point out is that "stating the obvious", as you want to do, ignores quite a bit of the reality on the ground. It is much, much more complicated than simple institutional racism of whites directed against blacks, or casual racism of whites directed against blacks, or even the reverse racism of blacks against whites (which exists in as much abundance as the other). What I am trying to point out is that there are many intractable problems that make simple solutions a lie.

And believe it or not blacks have made great strides in Mississippi in the past 60 years, particularly in civic life - judges, mayors, police chiefs, other elected officials - and particularly in predominantly black communities (i.e. a plurality of the state).

Again, it is more complicated here than you have been led to believe.

Now, look. I can see it in your head. You're picturing a set of officials that look and talk like Haley Barbour, thundering "I say I say I say boy you goin' to jail!" at some poor, innocent black child. But what do you do when the "inst ...


They're not interested in reality. They're interested in demonizing and prejudging other people based on arbitrary characteristics like the region that they're from. Sounds an awful lot like the racism they claim to despise, don't it? : )
2013-01-17 11:03:54 PM
1 votes:
For-profit prisons should be immediately banned.  It's just too great a temptation for sleazy judges and legislators to send more people to prison for stupid reasons to get those sweet, sweet kickbacks.  It's an invitation to corruption and massive civil rights violations.
2013-01-17 11:00:01 PM
1 votes:

part of the problem: take_flight: I live in New York, and there was a kid from down the street that used to wander up to my yard and scream obscenities at my kids, he threw rocks at my new car in my driveway, he beat the crap out of my son for a football, and beat the crap out of one of my sons friends and stole his bike, and when I called the cops they said there was nothing they could do because he was only 14.

WTFark? Clearly Mississippi and New York are in completely different countries.

Some one beat the crap out of your kid and your response was to make a phone call?

This is why normal people get concerned when New Yorkers start having opinions on how the rest of us protect our families.

Nevermind Mississippi is a third world hell hole as well. New York is just a different kind of third world hell hole.


I think assault on one's child warrants a phone call to the cops, no?  It's not like they called Oprah or something.  Even if the 14-year-0ld beat the piss out of your child, beating the piss out of that kid will just land you in a shiat-ton of trouble.  I mean, that was what you were suggesting, right?  If it was a grown adult that did it.....yeah, I could see the visceral reaction to assault them back, but a minor?  I'd cover my ass and call the po-po.
2013-01-17 09:26:08 PM
1 votes:

Elegy: Cue the Mississippi hate. For all of you saying "fark mississippi", "fark the deep south" and "southern whites are the ones that fark things up", I highly suggest you move to Mississippi for a bit. Racial politics are played so hard by both sides that they frequently cut to the bone. You'll fit right in with the angry racists of all stripes that we have, and whatever side you favor, you'll have at least 50% of the population that agrees with you.

This makes me very, very angry. It shouldn't happen, and those involved should be penalized with the loss of their wealth and freedoms.

That said, if you haven't lived in the deep south, you probably don't understand the intractable problems that Mississippi faces in today's society. You think - "oh, if only those confederate loving, gun toting, bible thumping whites weren't so racist all of the problems would magically go away." It's not that simple. And if you think it is, you are part of the problem.


I have grown up in the deep south and I know what you mean. I have witnessed the racism being proudly displayed by all types. Although, it isn't just the deep south that pull this crap. I see it in Flint and Detroit as well. It is different by having more people accepting other people as fellow human beings than the south, but there are people who like to exploit the differences. It takes everyone to rid themselves of the distrust they have for everyone different before anything will change. I had a coworker that didn't trust any of us at first because he stuck out, but when time passed he realized we liked him just fine. Give everyone a chance for if they mess up, you have time later to not like them.

/racism doesn't always wave a confederate flag
2013-01-17 09:24:35 PM
1 votes:

namegoeshere: crazydave023: I wonder what the reason is behind doing this? There seems to be no real benefit to anyone by locking these kids up at such an early age.

For-profit juvenile jails. And they're just black kids. They'll end up behind bars eventually - might as well make some money off 'em.

/no I don't think this
//Mississippi school officials do, though


You hit it right on and there is no one to defend these people. This is incarceration for profit at it's finest and most vulnerable. I am ashamed to be an American citizen sometimes.
2013-01-17 09:12:42 PM
1 votes:
If flatulence was illegal I would top every "Most Wanted" list in every nation in the world.

/Crohn's Disease and developing some kind of weird food intolerance
//it's not pretty
2013-01-17 09:10:50 PM
1 votes:
I live in Mississippi, about 10 minutes from Memphis. We aren't all racist, ignorant jackasses.
2013-01-17 08:56:03 PM
1 votes:
"like the five year-old who was sent home in a police car for "violating dress code" for not having black shoes, even though his mom had tried to color his shoes with a black marker."

As a mother, heck as a human OMG! Poor kid, literally most likely.
2013-01-17 08:47:56 PM
1 votes:
What are the odds that a for-profit prison is involved somewhere along the chain here?
2013-01-17 08:44:16 PM
1 votes:

utah dude: Nadie_AZ: Any takers on the race of the majority of these kids?

human. they were human kids. the last time i saw a talking goat i was on LSD so I know that wasn't real.


What if the talking goat is real and everything else is a hallucination caused by a lack of LSD?
2013-01-17 08:43:52 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: Nadie_AZ: cmb53208: Yes because Arizona, the state that gave America Joe Arpiao (again) and Jan Brewer can teach the Deep South a thing or two about racial tolerance. Seriously, at least get rid if Arpiao and his posses before you wag your fingers at the South. Seeriously, Arizona is a farking joke on its best day.

Arizona will eventually relearn and become the Border State is has always been. The influx of newbies from the Midwest and other locations has lowered our collective IQ on state history and place. Once everyone either learns it or figures it out, we'll drop these idiots and move on.

But yes, we've excelled at derp over the last few decades.

The Deep South as it in its DNA.

Your state is being overrun with old people, a la Sun City.  Until the Baby Boomers die, bigotry will dominate it.


I can't really argue that point, either.
2013-01-17 08:41:29 PM
1 votes:

Nadie_AZ: cmb53208: Yes because Arizona, the state that gave America Joe Arpiao (again) and Jan Brewer can teach the Deep South a thing or two about racial tolerance. Seriously, at least get rid if Arpiao and his posses before you wag your fingers at the South. Seeriously, Arizona is a farking joke on its best day.

Arizona will eventually relearn and become the Border State is has always been. The influx of newbies from the Midwest and other locations has lowered our collective IQ on state history and place. Once everyone either learns it or figures it out, we'll drop these idiots and move on.

But yes, we've excelled at derp over the last few decades.

The Deep South as it in its DNA.


Your state is being overrun with old people, a la Sun City.  Until the Baby Boomers die, bigotry will dominate it.
2013-01-17 08:40:49 PM
1 votes:
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2013-01-17 08:40:44 PM
1 votes:
Weapons of ass destruction
2013-01-17 08:33:55 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: A new report from the Advancement Project, a civil rights group, says that Mississippi's school's place kids in a "pipeline to prison,"

Educated in Mississippi, I see.

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2013-01-17 08:33:23 PM
1 votes:

Ennuipoet: Nadie_AZ: F(ck the Deep South.

To be honest I find these people anything but deep,  These are the sort of people that read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter in case they stumble across a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.
                            --Dennis Miller (before he went crazy)


This has come up in many FARK threads, but we should have let them go back in 1861...IMHO.
2013-01-17 08:22:30 PM
1 votes:

Sister Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection: Let me take a wild guess--the prisons there are for-profit.


Looks that way. FTC: Mississippi has for profit juvenile prisons. Schools and judges send minors to prison for anything to increase the profits of the prison company and for the kickbacks/bribes they get in return.
2013-01-17 08:13:55 PM
1 votes:
The South is great, it's the white Southerners that fark it up.
2013-01-17 08:13:39 PM
1 votes:
Let me take a wild guess--the prisons there are for-profit.

/too lazy to google right now
//Mississippi is farked already
///Moved away, shook dust from feet, have not looked back
2013-01-17 08:09:23 PM
1 votes:
Has anyone said "F*ck Mississippi" yet?
 
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