SevenizGud: The rationale behind watching the workers do their jobs is simple: I am smart, and practically everyone else on the planet is a blithering retard.It doesn't matter if I have never done wiring, or plumbing, or whatever else the case may be. I know that presumption of retardedness is universal. I know that if I am not there, they will make a lot of totally stupid, and even inexplicable mistakes. The fact that this is their profession, and they have been doing it for 25 years has NOTHING to do with it. They are still stupid.So while I am there, I can reduce the number of stupid things done by others somewhat.Just some examples from years gone by:A. Hey, Mr. Electrician dude running the new outlet for the clothes dryer. Congrats on putting the box on an interior wall. I was trying to decide whether I wanted to just vent the exhaust indoors, or run the dryer cord across to the other side of the closet.B. Hey, Mr. Bathtub surround installer dude, you know the lower gasket has a crease in it. Hmmm, maybe there's a reason for that. Have you ever wondered why that might be? No? No foolin'?C. Hey, Mr. Toilet tank float engineer dude, you see this place where the threads from the drop-rod are? You know, the place where the walls are the thinnest. Where do you imagine would be the worst possible spot for attachment of the dipping prong? And where did you put it.D. Hey, Mr. Kitchen sink sprayer assembler dude, when you push on the spray diverter, which fulcrum do you imagine takes the most force? So, where would you like to support the fulcrum with a whopping 2mm of useless-grade plastic. No kidding?E. Hey, Mr. Kitchen door weather strip installer dude, which side of the door do you imagine would be best to install the strip to keep the rain out?F. Hey, Mr. contracted landscaper worker, about how far away from the structure do you imagine you need to buzzkill ALL that grows with a weedeater before you can call your job good? Oh, about 2 feet should do. Yes, there will be nothing growing near that building, that's for sure.G. ...list goes on forever....
kudayta: Bloody William: Would it be farked up to send them my consulting rates as a copy editor and Web formatting consultant?No. That's a good idea. Do it right now./not joking.//seize the day
mab1823: Also, the BBB is a horrid scam. I wish I could complain about them to some sort of watchdog-type organization.
freetomato: sxacho: It's easy. Don't do any work for anyone from New York or New Jersey. They expect to get cheated and they will cheat you first instead so as to be the cheater and not the cheatee./Florida generalizations are accurate generalizationsWhen I lived in CT I had a friend who was a chimney sweep, a pretty rare specialty. He went to Long Island and swept the Billy Joel/Christie Brinkley chimney. BJ laid low - welcomed him and disappeared. CB skulked suspicously, screeched at BJ from across the compound, and treated Paul like an indentured servant. He told me she was less beautiful afterward, if you can believe that.
RatMaster999: Not Alw
dickfreckle: In a similar vein, I used to buy and sell audio equipment on eBay. It wasn't a full-time thing, but buying broken vintage audio, fixing it, and reselling it was profitable enough to pay for a modest vacation or at least the beer in my fridge. Then eBay removed the ability for sellers to make remarks about bad bidders. The buyers, of course, were free to make any accusation they wanted in the feedback section, leaving sellers with absolutely no recourse. I thought this was bullsh*t and started doing all my stuff on Craigslist. It takes longer to sell as you don't reach nearly as high an audience, but it also saves me the packing and shipping. Perhaps this has changed in the last year or so. I wouldn't know because I stopped using them, and they stopped getting my $100 and up seller fees every month. Btw, that's the other reason I bolted - the fees just keep getting higher and the sellers' rights keep getting cut./still maintains 99% positive feedback, but it would be 100% if not for a couple of assholes blaming UPS or FedEx's problems on me.
thecpt: Good. Now do it for architects.
sno man: 5monkeys: sno man: 5monkeys: My home is being reworked from sandy damage. The contractors, electricians and plumbers all tried to bill my landlord for days they weren't here. They didn't know I had moved back into the upstairs. If you don't watch them things like this happen. On the days I was there early on cleaning up when I left for a coffee and bathroom break I would come home to everyone gone. They would just walk out assuming I wasn't coming back and wouldn't report it to the landlord. It drove me crazy. They would show up for an hour or two then leave with hardly anything done. The most productive days were when I stayed put. I am still waiting on simple finishing touches. Doors need to be hung, outlets fixed, paint still not finished. I haven't seen anyone in a week. How about less biatching about customers and more finishing the freaking job!Are you paying them or your insurance?Landlord is. She paid in advance which was dumb. No incentive to finish quickly. She was denied for insurance and is fighting it. They had to remortgage their home to pay for the repairs. The people they hired remind me of the three stooges. I spend most of my day fixing the work they have done.If you like your landlord, make notes, take pictures... With enough evidence, She may have some recourse...
Jument: >> Posts complain of 'cheap-skates' and people who watch contractors while they workWhat's wrong with watching your contractor? As long as you don't start stroking your wang, it seems reasonable to me. I've never done it myself but if the job was tricky or I was worried about the contractor's skillz I would watch him (or her, fap).
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