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2013-01-17 09:49:08 PM

2wolves: Dentists hate to pay their bills.


So do most people from Illinois. (At least in northern Indiana)
 
2013-01-17 09:51:39 PM

JayDeeKay: 2wolves: Dentists hate to pay their bills.

So do most people from Illinois. (At least in northern Indiana)


Region represent!
 
2013-01-17 09:51:58 PM

pdieten: Jument: >> Posts complain of 'cheap-skates' and people who watch contractors while they work

What's wrong with watching your contractor? As long as you don't start stroking your wang, it seems reasonable to me. I've never done it myself but if the job was tricky or I was worried about the contractor's skillz I would watch him (or her, fap).

For the same reason you wouldn't tolerate your boss standing there watching you work. It makes them tense. If you don't trust the guy you hired to do a good job without constant oversight then you shouldn't have hired him in the first place. Communicate your needs accurately before the job begins, treat him like a professional, and check in regularly to make sure you're both still on the same page. You'll both be happier.


For me it's not an issue of trust. I like to watch them because they are doing something I don't know how to do. I might learn something, and it satisfies my curiosity.
 
2013-01-17 09:52:29 PM

Bloody William: Would it be farked up to send them my consulting rates as a copy editor and Web formatting consultant?


No. That's a good idea. Do it right now.

/not joking.
//seize the day
 
2013-01-17 09:55:20 PM

5monkeys: [many words]

I do, and I have been. I am exhausted from this whole thing. I spent the time I was gone trying to be there for them since they were unable most of the time. I did my best to help the process along. Now I am just frustrated. Each day I find some new screw up. Some are easy fixes, but time consuming. Like the cabinets in the kitchen that the shelves were hung wrong. They put the clips in upside down. I didn't notice until the top shelf collapsed as I was loading it up. Dropped 3 shelves on myself loaded with glasses. What a freaking mess. Then I checked and half of the kitchen was wrong. I had to pull them all out and redo it. More annoying than anything. The faucet is backwards and I still can't figure out how they did that. I mean seriously? How do you do that?

There are at least two ways to do that I can think of, but anyone that would, isn't a plumber, or a contractor with any actual experience. Easy fix: shut off the water where ever the shut off may be, and switch the two supply lines up to the faucet. Best practice will have shut off's right there under the sink, but that might not be code there, it's not here.
 
2013-01-17 09:59:47 PM
Sometimes you need to keep an eye on those contractors...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-17 10:00:59 PM

kudayta: Bloody William: Would it be farked up to send them my consulting rates as a copy editor and Web formatting consultant?

No. That's a good idea. Do it right now.

/not joking.
//seize the day


Just sent. I'm now professionally meta.
 
2013-01-17 10:01:56 PM
The only people who post negative reviews on sites like Yelp ARE assholes. And they usually use their real names and photographs, too.
 
2013-01-17 10:02:50 PM
I earned a 2 year degree in building inspection with an extra certificate to go along with it. However, due to the job climate and the hurry-up-and-die-already problem with senior building inspectors, I never got any actual experience. I can only imagine a contractor's frustration to have a 20 year old stand behind them with an open copy of the building code.
 
2013-01-17 10:05:32 PM
So now if I try to get their best price, I'm a shiatty client?

I generally only contact companies if they do something well. For example, last month my wife and I had the best waitress we've ever had in our lives. I made it a point to tell her, tip her accordingly, tell the manager, and I contacted the company directly. When something doesn't work out so well, I chalk it up to "shiat happens", and I move on. However, if I ever find my info on this site, you can be goddamned sure I'm going to burn the internet down in my attempt to slaughter the reputation of the asshole who's doing the same to me.
 
2013-01-17 10:07:50 PM
I like this one. Not Always Right
 
2013-01-17 10:08:05 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: So now if I try to get their best price, I'm a shiatty client?



Only if you wheedle and cajole the contractor down to his "best" price by making him make concession after concession...then once the contract is signed, immediately start demanding all the things he was taking out of the bid in the first place to get to the price you wanted.
 
2013-01-17 10:08:23 PM
Angie's List: He is a greedy asshole!
Nastyclient: He is a cheap asshole!
 
2013-01-17 10:09:16 PM
I see nothing inherently wrong with contractors networking and identifying customers who were difficult to work for. Failure to meet payment schedules on time, adding extra work and expecting some labor to be done for free or any number of other things that cuts into the contractors bottom line are unfortunately all too common. Even when the contractor seeks legal remediation via mechanics liens it costs them time and money.

There's no reason to automatically think that the customer is always right Although there is a fuzzy line between trying to please the customer and over-demanding customers trying to take advantage of the contractor as it's usually a matter of opinion. The fact is that a reputable contractor will spell out in writing what they will do, who will buy the materials, when the work is due to be done (barring any unforeseeable issues of course) and payment(s). While there are legal recourse's for them they may not want to deal with them from the start if they could've been doing work for a customer who doesn't cause them headaches. If the customer has a history of being a bad customer with other contractors and I knew about it then I would pass on the work too.

On the other hand I could see something like this being abused by some contractors who might single out customers that are easy to roll over. Why go do the job that pays a fair wage when you can single out the customers who are willing to overpay for the same work? Most people usually don't pay the lowest estimate by default on the principal that you get what you pay for it's hard to know what that one is when most of the estimates come from people who all think that you're a pushover ahead of time.
 
2013-01-17 10:09:31 PM

W.C.fields forever: Years ago,I installed a wood floor at this Korean gentlemans house.He ordered his wife to sit in that room.In her chair.Her arms folded.Staring.At lunch my helper and I grabbed our coolers sat in front of her.Staring at her.She left the room.She came back when we were finished with lunch,This went on for 3 days.Let us do our job....

Another time working up at Leisure World(siezure world) Changing carpet out.I close the door to take the door off..Mrs Costanza start screaming 'WHAT ARE YA DOIN" IN THERE'

I have way to many stories.The second you open the door to greet me I know you.I know what kind of customer
I am dealing with.


Long ago I learned (from others who knew the score) that half of your potential clients will take up 90% of your time and generate 10% of your income. After 30 years I've taken it to heart and have told many potential clients that I'm not interested in their job/ too busy/ too far away/ whatever. I rarely feel any regret walking away from a job bid.

On the other hand, once I agree to do a job then I'll keep my word regardless of what it takes. I've gone so far as to order the customer off my jobsite until I'm finished. They can come inspect once I'm done.
 
2013-01-17 10:11:38 PM
 In a similar vein, I used to buy and sell audio equipment on eBay. It wasn't a full-time thing, but buying broken vintage audio, fixing it, and reselling it was profitable enough to pay for a modest vacation or at least the beer in my fridge.

 Then eBay removed the ability for sellers to make remarks about bad bidders. The buyers, of course, were free to make any accusation they wanted in the feedback section, leaving sellers with absolutely no recourse. I thought this was bullsh*t and started doing all my stuff on Craigslist. It takes longer to sell as you don't reach nearly as high an audience, but it also saves me the packing and shipping.

 Perhaps this has changed in the last year or so. I wouldn't know because I stopped using them, and they stopped getting my $100 and up seller fees every month. Btw, that's the other reason I bolted - the fees just keep getting higher and the sellers' rights keep getting cut.

/still maintains 99% positive feedback, but it would be 100% if not for a couple of assholes blaming UPS or FedEx's problems on me.
 
2013-01-17 10:13:10 PM
I quit Ebay when the sellers could not give reviews n the buyers, but the buyers and scammers could dish plenty. F*ckt that.
 
2013-01-17 10:16:52 PM

dickfreckle: In a similar vein, I used to buy and sell audio equipment on eBay. It wasn't a full-time thing, but buying broken vintage audio, fixing it, and reselling it was profitable enough to pay for a modest vacation or at least the beer in my fridge.

 Then eBay removed the ability for sellers to make remarks about bad bidders. The buyers, of course, were free to make any accusation they wanted in the feedback section, leaving sellers with absolutely no recourse. I thought this was bullsh*t and started doing all my stuff on Craigslist. It takes longer to sell as you don't reach nearly as high an audience, but it also saves me the packing and shipping.

 Perhaps this has changed in the last year or so. I wouldn't know because I stopped using them, and they stopped getting my $100 and up seller fees every month. Btw, that's the other reason I bolted - the fees just keep getting higher and the sellers' rights keep getting cut.

/still maintains 99% positive feedback, but it would be 100% if not for a couple of assholes blaming UPS or FedEx's problems on me.


My way around that was to say say AAA+ if you want to get have your time wasted.
99.9
 
2013-01-17 10:17:23 PM

AbbeySomeone: I quit Ebay when the sellers could not give reviews n the buyers, but the buyers and scammers could dish plenty. F*ckt that.


I'm sure I remember that sellers could respond to feedback.
 
2013-01-17 10:17:43 PM

illannoyin: Sometimes you need to keep an eye on those contractors...

[i.imgur.com image 500x375]


Good god that's frightening.
 
2013-01-17 10:18:54 PM

MFAWG: My landlord asked me if I knew anybody that could repair the staircase that literally fell off the the house. I actually know several, but wouldn't wish her on any of them.


So have your buddies recommend someone they don't like but who will do a decent job.
 
2013-01-17 10:20:33 PM
I have mechanic's liens against two very nice homes thanks to rich assholes who think they can bully.
 
2013-01-17 10:21:17 PM

coldf33t: I guess I am stupid for being a salaried professional and knowing I will get the job done right no matter how long it takes.


The thing is that salaried employees get paid even when they don't work. It makes for a very stable paycheck which is why most people who are salaried do it (not to mention the comp-time that offsets overtime for most people). Hourly workers don't get paid if they don't work. Contractors are not usually hourly workers and work on a piecework basis, but the people who work for them and that get paid by the contractor are paid by the hour. The contractor estimates how many man hours the job will take and includes that in his estimate. When there is extra unrelated work being asked for at the same price that comes out of the contractors pocket and not the customers.
 
2013-01-17 10:21:48 PM

coldf33t: "I don't get it. Would these same people keep working at their job if one day their boss told them to work late every day for a week for no extra money?... These people drove me insane! I wouldn't work for them again and you shouldn't either."

I guess I am stupid for being a salaried professional and knowing I will get the job done right no matter how long it takes.


Stupid for not knowing your worth. You do work you deserve to be paid. That's the deal. Also, consider this, if you work for free you just negotiated your pay down. I get that a lot of folks do this but really, unless you are doing work for the joy of it, not the pay, make sure you get paid.
 
2013-01-17 10:23:19 PM
Vulture, low rent "contractors" come out after natural disasters/events. We had dozens of scam artist roofers in my area after a crazy hailstorm. I had no problems. USAA is my insurer and I find them to be money well spent. It sucks that scammers hit the vulnerable. I would like to see the book thrown hard at those that target the vulnerable. But on the flip side, I have worked in the service industry, and I know the customer is not always right. In fact, sometimes the customer is an insufferable asshole. I think it is fair for service providers and contracters to be forwarned of serial malcontents. These guys would probably be glad to be spared the headache of ass-pain clients who are perpetually dissatisfied. People like that are out there. If you don't see that, you probably are one.
 
2013-01-17 10:25:04 PM

skwerl: W.C.fields forever: Years ago,I installed a wood floor at this Korean gentlemans house.He ordered his wife to sit in that room.In her chair.Her arms folded.Staring.At lunch my helper and I grabbed our coolers sat in front of her.Staring at her.She left the room.She came back when we were finished with lunch,This went on for 3 days.Let us do our job....

Another time working up at Leisure World(siezure world) Changing carpet out.I close the door to take the door off..Mrs Costanza start screaming 'WHAT ARE YA DOIN" IN THERE'

I have way to many stories.The second you open the door to greet me I know you.I know what kind of customer
I am dealing with.

Long ago I learned (from others who knew the score) that half of your potential clients will take up 90% of your time and generate 10% of your income. After 30 years I've taken it to heart and have told many potential clients that I'm not interested in their job/ too busy/ too far away/ whatever. I rarely feel any regret walking away from a job bid.

On the other hand, once I agree to do a job then I'll keep my word regardless of what it takes. I've gone so far as to order the customer off my jobsite until I'm finished. They can come inspect once I'm done.


Yes.Exactly..The customer that asks what can I do to help? I say go take in a movie..go shopping.It's a lovely day at the beach..One lady asked can I get you anything? I told her she could cook me a potroast..About 4 hours later I smelled potroast..That was awesome.

I worked at a Nuns house.When I was done she said God Bless You..Best tip I ever received..(not even religous...

And Then there's the Dildo story.
 
2013-01-17 10:25:46 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: So now if I try to get their best price, I'm a shiatty client?

I generally only contact companies if they do something well. For example, last month my wife and I had the best waitress we've ever had in our lives. I made it a point to tell her, tip her accordingly, tell the manager, and I contacted the company directly. When something doesn't work out so well, I chalk it up to "shiat happens", and I move on. However, if I ever find my info on this site, you can be goddamned sure I'm going to burn the internet down in my attempt to slaughter the reputation of the asshole who's doing the same to me.


Unlikely, based on what else you've said.
 
2013-01-17 10:29:08 PM

BradleyUffner:
For me it's not an issue of trust. I like to watch them because they are doing something I don't know how to do. I might learn something, and it satisfies my curiosity.

We're contractors not teachers. If you want to learn something go to home depot.
 
2013-01-17 10:30:35 PM
fark that. If I'm going to be home anyway, I'm going to be watching the contractor. At least whenever he/she/it is working in the same room. I'm not going to follow them around the house, but I'm not going to leave for their comfort, either.
 
2013-01-17 10:30:53 PM

freetomato: Vulture, low rent "contractors" come out after natural disasters/events.


We had a tornado near here 2 years ago... People pulling up and asking if they could check our roof. Now the place were the tornado hit was a mile away, and we had no damage. And most of the I wouldn't trust on my property much less on my roof. Damn storm chasers.
 
2013-01-17 10:32:00 PM

RandyMarsh: BradleyUffner:
For me it's not an issue of trust. I like to watch them because they are doing something I don't know how to do. I might learn something, and it satisfies my curiosity.
We're contractors not teachers. If you want to learn something go to home depot.


*fistbump*
 
2013-01-17 10:33:24 PM

W.C.fields forever: skwerl: W.C.fields forever: Years ago,I installed a wood floor at this Korean gentlemans house.He ordered his wife to sit in that room.In her chair.Her arms folded.Staring.At lunch my helper and I grabbed our coolers sat in front of her.Staring at her.She left the room.She came back when we were finished with lunch,This went on for 3 days.Let us do our job....

Another time working up at Leisure World(siezure world) Changing carpet out.I close the door to take the door off..Mrs Costanza start screaming 'WHAT ARE YA DOIN" IN THERE'

I have way to many stories.The second you open the door to greet me I know you.I know what kind of customer
I am dealing with.

Long ago I learned (from others who knew the score) that half of your potential clients will take up 90% of your time and generate 10% of your income. After 30 years I've taken it to heart and have told many potential clients that I'm not interested in their job/ too busy/ too far away/ whatever. I rarely feel any regret walking away from a job bid.

On the other hand, once I agree to do a job then I'll keep my word regardless of what it takes. I've gone so far as to order the customer off my jobsite until I'm finished. They can come inspect once I'm done.

Yes.Exactly..The customer that asks what can I do to help? I say go take in a movie..go shopping.It's a lovely day at the beach..One lady asked can I get you anything? I told her she could cook me a potroast..About 4 hours later I smelled potroast..That was awesome.

I worked at a Nuns house.When I was done she said God Bless You..Best tip I ever received..(not even religous...

And Then there's the Dildo story.


Please, do tell...
 
2013-01-17 10:33:28 PM

dickfreckle: In a similar vein, I used to buy and sell audio equipment on eBay. It wasn't a full-time thing, but buying broken vintage audio, fixing it, and reselling it was profitable enough to pay for a modest vacation or at least the beer in my fridge.

Then eBay removed the ability for sellers to make remarks about bad bidders. The buyers, of course, were free to make any accusation they wanted in the feedback section, leaving sellers with absolutely no recourse. I thought this was bullsh*t and started doing all my stuff on Craigslist. It takes longer to sell as you don't reach nearly as high an audience, but it also saves me the packing and shipping.


Oh man I got screwed on ebay over an item but eventually won. Sold a 50s Jensen 10" speaker to a guy who seemed to only speak badly broken english. He emailed me and basically said put cardboard over the speaker cone to protect it. I did that along with a layer of foam and more cardboard reinforcements. This thing was packed solid. He waited until an hour before I could file a non payment claim and then finally paid. A few weeks later he said the speaker arrived broken and wanted a refund. I checked the tracking and it only took two days to reach him. I told him to send me pictures of the damage. He finally filed a paypal claim. It took paypal like two weeks to finally side with him. They took the money from my account and said the speaker would be shipped back. A month goes by and nothing ever shows up. Paypal sends me a cryptic message about changing their minds and my money is returned.

I think the guy re-shipped the speaker to Asia (where all vintage audio equipment goes) and did it cheaply, as my auction stated USA only. Bottom line is now whenever I sell something I'm moving the money to my bank account and then de-linking it from paypal. Yeah its a pain but they can't steal from me, only try and collect.
 
2013-01-17 10:35:00 PM

sno man: RandyMarsh: BradleyUffner:
For me it's not an issue of trust. I like to watch them because they are doing something I don't know how to do. I might learn something, and it satisfies my curiosity.
We're contractors not teachers. If you want to learn something go to home depot.

*fistbump*


*high five on the up high and the down low*
 
2013-01-17 10:35:21 PM

RatMaster999: Not Alw


One of my daily-visited sites.

/my proposal to my fiancee took second place in the Not Always Romantic story of the year contest
//Triforce of Love
 
2013-01-17 10:36:58 PM

starlost: put a lien on the property. gosh darn that can screw a homeowner over in a legal perfect storm.


Had that. But alas, the Oregon bankruptcy judge ruled against me and my deadbeat customer was allowed to skate on $2500. I asked myself "why am I paying for a license and bonding if people are allowed to steal my labo?". I moved to another state and I'm no longer operating legally. fark it. Not going to waste my hard earned money to comply with rules that don't matter.

I filed a lien and it meant nothing.
 
2013-01-17 10:37:59 PM

Zombie Butler: sno man: RandyMarsh: BradleyUffner:
For me it's not an issue of trust. I like to watch them because they are doing something I don't know how to do. I might learn something, and it satisfies my curiosity.
We're contractors not teachers. If you want to learn something go to home depot.

*fistbump*

*high five on the up high and the down low*


you keep my down low out of this...
 
2013-01-17 10:38:52 PM

sno man: Your Average Witty Fark User: So now if I try to get their best price, I'm a shiatty client?

I generally only contact companies if they do something well. For example, last month my wife and I had the best waitress we've ever had in our lives. I made it a point to tell her, tip her accordingly, tell the manager, and I contacted the company directly. When something doesn't work out so well, I chalk it up to "shiat happens", and I move on. However, if I ever find my info on this site, you can be goddamned sure I'm going to burn the internet down in my attempt to slaughter the reputation of the asshole who's doing the same to me.

Unlikely, based on what else you've said.


You're right, it is entirely unlikely. However, I don't really like where this site is going.

What I'd really like to see is a site that goes both ways, and hell, could even offer, for a nominal fee, arbitration. Being able to just randomly make shiat up about a business or a customer is crummy. Kind of like when people Yelp bomb a business that makes a stupid political statement. I should be able to freely avoid your business because you're farking stupid, however, you shouldn't have to worry about being libeled because you're stupid.

Does that make any sense?
 
2013-01-17 10:39:13 PM
Good.

Now can those of us in the service industry get an anti-Yelp site?

Because I would love to rate those customers who write negative reviews because we didn't offer them a menu (we have no kitchen), or we refused to serve their wife a margarita (we have no liquor).

/Just kidding. I know Yelp reviewers aren't really customers.
 
2013-01-17 10:41:18 PM
I've yet to meet a contractor that wasn't shady, nor a laborer who wasn't a lazy drunk. I've never understood how mechanics and lawyers get the worse reputation of the group.

I assume that all the craftsmen that aren't lazy good for nothing drunks work on the really expensive custom homes.
 
2013-01-17 10:41:56 PM

sno man: Zombie Butler: sno man: RandyMarsh: BradleyUffner:
For me it's not an issue of trust. I like to watch them because they are doing something I don't know how to do. I might learn something, and it satisfies my curiosity.
We're contractors not teachers. If you want to learn something go to home depot.

*fistbump*

*high five on the up high and the down low*

you keep my down low out of this...


How low can you go. . . . .

bwahahahahaha good one
 
2013-01-17 10:43:11 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: So now if I try to get their best price, I'm a shiatty client?


Typically a contractor is going to give you his best price to begin with. It's not like a pawn shop where they start high and expect you to haggle them down.

If they give you a price and in turn you ask if they can do better, they will most likely have to make cuts in things like materials. Using cheaper materials just increases the likelihood that they will fail and then you will be badmouthing them on some site like Yelp claiming they do shoddy work when you're the one who demanded a lower price. It's like the old saying, you get what you pay for.
 
2013-01-17 10:43:46 PM
Who would charge $1.33 (and a third) per month for an internet forum? I bet no one would spring for that.
 
2013-01-17 10:44:01 PM
Wow. That shiatstorm requires a membership to read posts? Why is it a mainline -anywhere-?
 
2013-01-17 10:44:40 PM

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: (we have no kitchen), or we refused to serve their wife a margarita (we have no liquor).


What type of busienss is this?
 
2013-01-17 10:45:26 PM
The more complaints that they have about their customers, the worse they are as a contractor.
The more they don't want to be watched, the more they are trying to lie and cheat.

You want a good contractor? Find one who is proud of the work they're doing as they do it, and who has the ethical and common sense business practices to satisfy both his business needs and his customers.
 
2013-01-17 10:51:18 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: sno man: Your Average Witty Fark User: So now if I try to get their best price, I'm a shiatty client?

I generally only contact companies if they do something well. For example, last month my wife and I had the best waitress we've ever had in our lives. I made it a point to tell her, tip her accordingly, tell the manager, and I contacted the company directly. When something doesn't work out so well, I chalk it up to "shiat happens", and I move on. However, if I ever find my info on this site, you can be goddamned sure I'm going to burn the internet down in my attempt to slaughter the reputation of the asshole who's doing the same to me.

Unlikely, based on what else you've said.

You're right, it is entirely unlikely. However, I don't really like where this site is going.

What I'd really like to see is a site that goes both ways, and hell, could even offer, for a nominal fee, arbitration. Being able to just randomly make shiat up about a business or a customer is crummy. Kind of like when people Yelp bomb a business that makes a stupid political statement. I should be able to freely avoid your business because you're farking stupid, however, you shouldn't have to worry about being libeled because you're stupid.

Does that make any sense?


yea sure, A site with all the bs both ways would be handy, I guess.  Personally, most of my clients come from real first person referrals. I haven't advertised in years. I have work booked into October. The last time I was screwed on a project was a Real Estate agent I was doing a favour for. My core clients are awesome.
 
2013-01-17 10:52:30 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: (we have no kitchen), or we refused to serve their wife a margarita (we have no liquor).

What type of busienss is this?


A tavern in Washington state. According to the Liquor Control Board, the only alcohol we can sell is beer and wine, but we can also sell beer to go and have no requirement to serve food, unlike other bars and nightclubs in the state.

I just live here, man. I didn't write the laws.
 
2013-01-17 10:54:03 PM

desertfool: We had a tornado near here 2 years ago... People pulling up and asking if they could check our roof. Now the place were the tornado hit was a mile away, and we had no damage. And most of the I wouldn't trust on my property much less on my roof. Damn storm chasers.


The same thing happened here. Had a freak spring storm with baseball size hail. It dented up my hood really nice but the windshield and roof were just fine. Anyhow like half the people in the area ended up getting new shingles from their insurance. All kinds of shady people would pull up in vans and go up on your roof without even asking. Heard one story of a guy watching this happen so he goes outside and steals the shady guys ladder, leaving him stranded. The cops were called and the guy left in handcuffs. Can't verify the truthfulness but we can all wish. Oh on a side note after a co-worker got a "free" roof he noticed his homeowners policy had somehow doubled when it came time to renew. Wonder why...
 
2013-01-17 10:57:05 PM

coalition: The more complaints that they have about their customers, the worse they are as a contractor.
The more they don't want to be watched, the more they are trying to lie and cheat.

You want a good contractor? Find one who is proud of the work they're doing as they do it, and who has the ethical and common sense business practices to satisfy both his business needs and his customers.


What about the contractors who have A1 ratings across the board, but one abysmal rating? I hired that guy to build me a 6' privacy fence. 2 acre lot, and a 3 man team built if swiftly and beautifuLly, and gave me a military discount. I asked the business owner, over coffee on day two, about the raging, negative review. He rolled his eyes and politely told me about the batshiat insane drunk woman who sexually harassed his laborers while wearing a ratty, half undone bathrobe and kicking her dog. I gave his company and crew a well deserved a great yelp shout-out.
 
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