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2013-01-17 08:17:38 PM
mlkshk.com
 
2013-01-17 08:38:11 PM
Some people are assholes, even if they are paying you. And they are HGE assholes if they aren't paying you and should be.
 
2013-01-17 09:07:05 PM
Dentists hate to pay their bills.
 
2013-01-17 09:15:40 PM
This is perfectly acceptable. I know a contractor, he doesn't hesitate to fire clients if they are being dicks. Now he'll have a way to spread the word.
 
2013-01-17 09:17:04 PM
>> Posts complain of 'cheap-skates' and people who watch contractors while they work

What's wrong with watching your contractor? As long as you don't start stroking your wang, it seems reasonable to me. I've never done it myself but if the job was tricky or I was worried about the contractor's skillz I would watch him (or her, fap).
 
2013-01-17 09:17:41 PM
Dry Cleaners hate to pay their bills! 11111111111111111111111111111
 
2013-01-17 09:20:37 PM
O well there goes my idea. Was just thinking this exact idea not 2 days ago after I was screwed by a new customer. Sites such as yelp are horrible. They can ruin your business rep with no recourse allowed for the business owner, and a bad review is nearly impossible to remove.
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2013-01-17 09:20:51 PM
A good contractor will know how to write a contract that deals with most of the major complaints.....and won't be afraid to fire a bad client.
 
2013-01-17 09:21:18 PM
As an upholsterer, I had a one legged client who had issues with his personal fart catcher.
I mad his seat and he biatched about it, and would not pay me.
So I visited him and asked what the problem was.
He was telling me all about his ass pain and I hoisted up his good leg and pulled the fart catcher out and said, "Well, then. Good day to you, sir", and left.

Bastard was on the floor rolling about screaming he would sue me.

Fark him.

I did a tuck and roll and buttons and head to head tacks and he was biatching about it?
Fark him, and would not assist again....

Dipshiat shouldn't have been napping his drunken ass on the tracks in the first place.
/or maybe it was not paying his track bets.
//It was RI, so either way.
///used it in a Chihuahua whelping box the nest week.
 
2013-01-17 09:21:35 PM

Jument: >> Posts complain of 'cheap-skates' and people who watch contractors while they work

What's wrong with watching your contractor? As long as you don't start stroking your wang, it seems reasonable to me. I've never done it myself but if the job was tricky or I was worried about the contractor's skillz I would watch him (or her, fap).


For the same reason you wouldn't tolerate your boss standing there watching you work. It makes them tense. If you don't trust the guy you hired to do a good job without constant oversight then you shouldn't have hired him in the first place. Communicate your needs accurately before the job begins, treat him like a professional, and check in regularly to make sure you're both still on the same page. You'll both be happier.
 
2013-01-17 09:21:47 PM
Cuz we need more shame and spite on the internets.
 
2013-01-17 09:22:20 PM
Won't this just get recursive? Client complains about business who complains about client who complains about business...until somebody winds up either in hospital or court.
 
2013-01-17 09:22:32 PM

2wolves: Dentists hate to pay their bills.


They have their reasons...

sallongo.com
 
2013-01-17 09:23:09 PM

Jument: >> Posts complain of 'cheap-skates' and people who watch contractors while they work

What's wrong with watching your contractor? As long as you don't start stroking your wang, it seems reasonable to me. I've never done it myself but if the job was tricky or I was worried about the contractor's skillz I would watch him (or her, fap).


I'm reminded of the sign in a buddy's garage from a few years ago about his rates... $65 an hour, $75 if you want to watch, $85 if you want to help.
I'm a contractor, and I approve of this web site... I will never use it, but I approve of it.
 
2013-01-17 09:23:52 PM

2wolves: Dentists hate to pay their bills.



You are right. I think the last four I had all went south, come to think of it!
 
2013-01-17 09:24:04 PM
Every person here who works in IT is totally OK with this.
 
2013-01-17 09:24:06 PM
put a lien on the property. gosh darn that can screw a homeowner over in a legal perfect storm.
 
2013-01-17 09:25:40 PM
My home is being reworked from sandy damage. The contractors, electricians and plumbers all tried to bill my landlord for days they weren't here. They didn't know I had moved back into the upstairs. If you don't watch them things like this happen. On the days I was there early on cleaning up when I left for a coffee and bathroom break I would come home to everyone gone. They would just walk out assuming I wasn't coming back and wouldn't report it to the landlord. It drove me crazy. They would show up for an hour or two then leave with hardly anything done. The most productive days were when I stayed put. I am still waiting on simple finishing touches. Doors need to be hung, outlets fixed, paint still not finished. I haven't seen anyone in a week. How about less biatching about customers and more finishing the freaking job!
 
2013-01-17 09:27:20 PM

vudukungfu: As an upholsterer, I had a one legged client who had issues with his personal fart catcher.
I mad his seat and he biatched about it, and would not pay me.
So I visited him and asked what the problem was.
He was telling me all about his ass pain and I hoisted up his good leg and pulled the fart catcher out and said, "Well, then. Good day to you, sir", and left.

Bastard was on the floor rolling about screaming he would sue me.

Fark him.

I did a tuck and roll and buttons and head to head tacks and he was biatching about it?
Fark him, and would not assist again....

Dipshiat shouldn't have been napping his drunken ass on the tracks in the first place.
/or maybe it was not paying his track bets.
//It was RI, so either way.
///used it in a Chihuahua whelping box the nest week.


Wtf is a fart catcher?

Can you make extras for the kids in Mississippi?
 
2013-01-17 09:27:30 PM

5monkeys: My home is being reworked from sandy damage. The contractors, electricians and plumbers all tried to bill my landlord for days they weren't here. They didn't know I had moved back into the upstairs. If you don't watch them things like this happen. On the days I was there early on cleaning up when I left for a coffee and bathroom break I would come home to everyone gone. They would just walk out assuming I wasn't coming back and wouldn't report it to the landlord. It drove me crazy. They would show up for an hour or two then leave with hardly anything done. The most productive days were when I stayed put. I am still waiting on simple finishing touches. Doors need to be hung, outlets fixed, paint still not finished. I haven't seen anyone in a week. How about less biatching about customers and more finishing the freaking job!


Are you paying them or your insurance?
 
2013-01-17 09:29:20 PM

sno man: 5monkeys: My home is being reworked from sandy damage. The contractors, electricians and plumbers all tried to bill my landlord for days they weren't here. They didn't know I had moved back into the upstairs. If you don't watch them things like this happen. On the days I was there early on cleaning up when I left for a coffee and bathroom break I would come home to everyone gone. They would just walk out assuming I wasn't coming back and wouldn't report it to the landlord. It drove me crazy. They would show up for an hour or two then leave with hardly anything done. The most productive days were when I stayed put. I am still waiting on simple finishing touches. Doors need to be hung, outlets fixed, paint still not finished. I haven't seen anyone in a week. How about less biatching about customers and more finishing the freaking job!

Are you paying them or your insurance?


Landlord is. She paid in advance which was dumb. No incentive to finish quickly. She was denied for insurance and is fighting it. They had to remortgage their home to pay for the repairs. The people they hired remind me of the three stooges. I spend most of my day fixing the work they have done.
 
2013-01-17 09:29:31 PM
FTWebsite: "Whether you are reading this on your Smartphone or Tablet, swaying back and forth in your train seat, or you just settled into your office, I'd like to thank you for including me in your morning. Nastyclient.com was self-created out of shear frustration and a burning desire to fix a broken system."

*twitch*
 
2013-01-17 09:30:32 PM

pdieten: Jument: >> Posts complain of 'cheap-skates' and people who watch contractors while they work

What's wrong with watching your contractor? As long as you don't start stroking your wang, it seems reasonable to me. I've never done it myself but if the job was tricky or I was worried about the contractor's skillz I would watch him (or her, fap).

For the same reason you wouldn't tolerate your boss standing there watching you work. It makes them tense. If you don't trust the guy you hired to do a good job without constant oversight then you shouldn't have hired him in the first place. Communicate your needs accurately before the job begins, treat him like a professional, and check in regularly to make sure you're both still on the same page. You'll both be happier.


If I was doing something really tricky, my boss might just be there. I'm not saying I'd watch a guy from start to finish but if he was putting my house on jacks or something, I would be watching every step of the job. It doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me, honestly. I can see how it would bother some people but if you're in someone's home you can understand that they might be uncomfortable about leaving you completely unattended at all times.
 
2013-01-17 09:31:12 PM
I love this idea. Nothing more annoying than clients who follow you around and tell you how to do your job.

/and then biatch when you do exactly what they tell you to do
 
2013-01-17 09:31:30 PM
I am okay with this. The people who post at Consumerist must have their panties in a major twist.

/funny stuff
//turn about is fair play
 
2013-01-17 09:32:09 PM
Don't people already use Yelp to badmouth businesses?
 
2013-01-17 09:32:36 PM
The free service is called The BBB (Better Business Service)
 
2013-01-17 09:32:51 PM
Isn't there enough work for libel lawyers?
 
2013-01-17 09:33:16 PM

LesterB: FTWebsite: "Whether you are reading this on your Smartphone or Tablet, swaying back and forth in your train seat, or you just settled into your office, I'd like to thank you for including me in your morning. Nastyclient.com was self-created out of shear frustration and a burning desire to fix a broken system."

*twitch*


you don't like the cut of his jib? Perhaps you should rip him a new one on one of those complaint websites.
 
2013-01-17 09:33:22 PM

pdieten: Jument: >> Posts complain of 'cheap-skates' and people who watch contractors while they work

What's wrong with watching your contractor? As long as you don't start stroking your wang, it seems reasonable to me. I've never done it myself but if the job was tricky or I was worried about the contractor's skillz I would watch him (or her, fap).

For the same reason you wouldn't tolerate your boss standing there watching you work. It makes them tense. If you don't trust the guy you hired to do a good job without constant oversight then you shouldn't have hired him in the first place. Communicate your needs accurately before the job begins, treat him like a professional, and check in regularly to make sure you're both still on the same page. You'll both be happier.


I understand that can be annoying, but it is the person's own home. A sloppy contractor affects habitability.
 
2013-01-17 09:33:23 PM

5monkeys: sno man: 5monkeys: My home is being reworked from sandy damage. The contractors, electricians and plumbers all tried to bill my landlord for days they weren't here. They didn't know I had moved back into the upstairs. If you don't watch them things like this happen. On the days I was there early on cleaning up when I left for a coffee and bathroom break I would come home to everyone gone. They would just walk out assuming I wasn't coming back and wouldn't report it to the landlord. It drove me crazy. They would show up for an hour or two then leave with hardly anything done. The most productive days were when I stayed put. I am still waiting on simple finishing touches. Doors need to be hung, outlets fixed, paint still not finished. I haven't seen anyone in a week. How about less biatching about customers and more finishing the freaking job!

Are you paying them or your insurance?

Landlord is. She paid in advance which was dumb. No incentive to finish quickly. She was denied for insurance and is fighting it. They had to remortgage their home to pay for the repairs. The people they hired remind me of the three stooges. I spend most of my day fixing the work they have done.


If you like your landlord, make notes, take pictures... With enough evidence, She may have some recourse...
 
2013-01-17 09:34:38 PM
I think that they should have a website where anyone can put any person's or businesses name and address on it and set up a date and time where everyone can go to their address and egg them.
 
2013-01-17 09:35:48 PM
My landlord asked me if I knew anybody that could repair the staircase that literally fell off the the house. I actually know several, but wouldn't wish her on any of them.
 
2013-01-17 09:36:39 PM
Good. Now do it for architects.
 
2013-01-17 09:38:02 PM
FTA: "Another anonymous post states: 'At the meeting the husband told me he found another guy that would do more work for a cheaper price and if I wanted the job, I needed to include some free work...The extra work ended up taking two guys 8 hours, which equals a totally free day. We did the job and got paid, but I would just be aware that these people are the epitome of cheap negotiators. I don't get it. Would these same people keep working at their job if one day their boss told them to work late every day for a week for no extra money?... "

Ummm, I'm salaried and I do work extra hours for no extra money, it's kind of common.
 
2013-01-17 09:38:33 PM
Also, the BBB is a horrid scam. I wish I could complain about them to some sort of watchdog-type organization.
 
2013-01-17 09:39:36 PM

sno man: 5monkeys: sno man: 5monkeys: My home is being reworked from sandy damage. The contractors, electricians and plumbers all tried to bill my landlord for days they weren't here. They didn't know I had moved back into the upstairs. If you don't watch them things like this happen. On the days I was there early on cleaning up when I left for a coffee and bathroom break I would come home to everyone gone. They would just walk out assuming I wasn't coming back and wouldn't report it to the landlord. It drove me crazy. They would show up for an hour or two then leave with hardly anything done. The most productive days were when I stayed put. I am still waiting on simple finishing touches. Doors need to be hung, outlets fixed, paint still not finished. I haven't seen anyone in a week. How about less biatching about customers and more finishing the freaking job!

Are you paying them or your insurance?

Landlord is. She paid in advance which was dumb. No incentive to finish quickly. She was denied for insurance and is fighting it. They had to remortgage their home to pay for the repairs. The people they hired remind me of the three stooges. I spend most of my day fixing the work they have done.

If you like your landlord, make notes, take pictures... With enough evidence, She may have some recourse...


I do, and I have been. I am exhausted from this whole thing. I spent the time I was gone trying to be there for them since they were unable most of the time. I did my best to help the process along. Now I am just frustrated. Each day I find some new screw up. Some are easy fixes, but time consuming. Like the cabinets in the kitchen that the shelves were hung wrong. They put the clips in upside down. I didn't notice until the top shelf collapsed as I was loading it up. Dropped 3 shelves on myself loaded with glasses. What a freaking mess. Then I checked and half of the kitchen was wrong. I had to pull them all out and redo it. More annoying than anything. The faucet is backwards and I still can't figure out how they did that. I mean seriously? How do you do that?
 
2013-01-17 09:40:13 PM
Subby

In what could be considered a turnabout is fair play move to customer sites like Angie's List, Nastyclient.com is set up for contractors to name and shame bad clients.

The grammar of that sentence makes my head hurt.
 
2013-01-17 09:40:27 PM

Jument: >> Posts complain of 'cheap-skates' and people who watch contractors while they work

What's wrong with watching your contractor? As long as you don't start stroking your wang, it seems reasonable to me. I've never done it myself but if the job was tricky or I was worried about the contractor's skillz I would watch him (or her, fap).


Excusing your lack of trust in your contractor's abilities to work unsupervised (as most competent adults are wont to do) the problem workmen usually run into is not those who insistent on silently observing, it is those clients who feel the need to jibber-jabber and poke holes in one's performance as they toil. You're what is known as an obnoxious bastard.

Experienced workmen are known to lay their tools down and engage obnoxious bastards in lengthy conversation on your dime. When you catch on they won't work until you leave them the hell alone they are then free to return to their responsibilities.

-- not a contractor or workman, just an adult with common sense and respect for others.
 
2013-01-17 09:40:39 PM

MFAWG: My landlord asked me if I knew anybody that could repair the staircase that literally fell off the the house. I actually know several, but wouldn't wish her on any of them.


You live in Toronto? Cause I'm sure I've done work for her...
 
2013-01-17 09:40:45 PM
Anige sucks and it not the way you farkers want it
 
2013-01-17 09:41:16 PM
How much you want to bet 90% of the site becomes complaints about customers not tipping?
 
2013-01-17 09:41:38 PM
My contractor (really, just a guy I pay cash to do things I don't want) won't leave me alone. But he is a funny fark with tons of great stories.

/The guy is worth his weight
//Actually had to tell him that he was lowballing his rate when the fact that the kitchen faucet missing parts wasn't his fault. We had to run to Menards (hardware store) and get a replacement. It drove his hourly rate down. Don't want to lose him.
 
2013-01-17 09:42:19 PM

thecpt: Good. Now do it for architects.


That's easy, visit their office, if the cost of the chairs in the conference room exceeds the cost of the design software find another architect
 
2013-01-17 09:43:49 PM
"I don't get it. Would these same people keep working at their job if one day their boss told them to work late every day for a week for no extra money?... These people drove me insane! I wouldn't work for them again and you shouldn't either."

I guess I am stupid for being a salaried professional and knowing I will get the job done right no matter how long it takes.
 
2013-01-17 09:46:08 PM
Would it be farked up to send them my consulting rates as a copy editor and Web formatting consultant?
 
2013-01-17 09:46:42 PM

5monkeys: My home is being reworked from sandy damage. The contractors, electricians and plumbers all tried to bill my landlord for days they weren't here. They didn't know I had moved back into the upstairs. If you don't watch them things like this happen. On the days I was there early on cleaning up when I left for a coffee and bathroom break I would come home to everyone gone. They would just walk out assuming I wasn't coming back and wouldn't report it to the landlord. It drove me crazy. They would show up for an hour or two then leave with hardly anything done. The most productive days were when I stayed put. I am still waiting on simple finishing touches. Doors need to be hung, outlets fixed, paint still not finished. I haven't seen anyone in a week. How about less biatching about customers and more finishing the freaking job!



Picture the surf ---- Then say your screenname 3 times and sing

Hey hey
 
2013-01-17 09:46:54 PM

5monkeys: The people they hired remind me of the three stooges.


That's what this sounds like the more you tell us. 3 stooges meaning "intentional stupidity 4 teh lulz."
 
2013-01-17 09:47:55 PM

p the boiler: FTA: "Another anonymous post states: 'At the meeting the husband told me he found another guy that would do more work for a cheaper price and if I wanted the job, I needed to include some free work...The extra work ended up taking two guys 8 hours, which equals a totally free day. We did the job and got paid, but I would just be aware that these people are the epitome of cheap negotiators. I don't get it. Would these same people keep working at their job if one day their boss told them to work late every day for a week for no extra money?... "

Ummm, I'm salaried and I do work extra hours for no extra money, it's kind of common.


Point taken. Though it sounds like the contractor wasn't a very good negotiator. Number one rule of negotiation is be willing to walk away.
 
2013-01-17 09:48:57 PM
Years ago,I installed a wood floor at this Korean gentlemans house.He ordered his wife to sit in that room.In her chair.Her arms folded.Staring.At lunch my helper and I grabbed our coolers sat in front of her.Staring at her.She left the room.She came back when we were finished with lunch,This went on for 3 days.Let us do our job....

Another time working up at Leisure World(siezure world) Changing carpet out.I close the door to take the door off..Mrs Costanza start screaming 'WHAT ARE YA DOIN" IN THERE'

I have way to many stories.The second you open the door to greet me I know you.I know what kind of customer
I am dealing with.
 
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