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(Breitbart.com)   Conservative PACs upset Congressmen voted to raise taxes instead of doing nothing which would have resulted in even higher tax rates   (breitbart.com) divider line 39
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2013-01-17 02:41:58 PM
If the Republicans would've focused on something more long term than the outrage of the week, perhaps they wouldn't have been outflanked by an inexperienced community organizer.
 
2013-01-17 02:44:12 PM
Heck, here in Michigan a Republican House and Republican Senate passed a law that raised taxes on everyone but the 1% and it was signed by a Republican governor.
 
2013-01-17 02:46:14 PM
Schock is considering a run for Illinois governor in 2014.....

Schock's lawyers have reacted to the ad viscerally, demanding broadcasters in the congressman's district take it down. Shearer blamed Chicago billionaire Bruce Rauner, considered as another potential GOP gubernatorial candidate in the state, for the ad in that Facebook post, but Rauner denies being involved at all. The group that ran the ad is called "Jobs & Progress Fund," and it is unclear who funds it.


They really are going to run a candidate that is going to make Quinn look good by comparison, aren't they?
 
2013-01-17 02:49:01 PM
Just dropping in to mention that Breitbart is still dead and the world is better for it. Carry on.
 
2013-01-17 02:49:18 PM
"As Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform said, Aaron Schock did not violate his pledge not to raise taxes with the vote on the fiscal cliff."

Yet, the exact same deal means Obama lied when he said he wouldn't raise taxes on the middle-class in 2008.

Conservative logic!
 
2013-01-17 02:49:53 PM
"Conservative" PACs? More accurate to call them "Batshiat insane reactionary wingut" PACs.

But given the FOX/Republican constituency, that goes without saying.
 
2013-01-17 02:50:13 PM

Muta: Heck, here in Michigan a Republican House and Republican Senate passed a law that raised taxes on everyone but the 1% and it was signed by a Republican governor.


Those taxes are OK, though.
 
2013-01-17 02:50:22 PM
Conservatives continue to be incensed that people refuse to be as ignorant as they'd prefer.
 
2013-01-17 02:52:37 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: If the Republicans would've focused on something more long term than the outrage of the week, perhaps they wouldn't have been outflanked by an inexperienced community organizer.


But Benghazi!
 
2013-01-17 02:55:14 PM
Georgia Republican Rep. Paul Broun, one of the most conservative members of the House, told Breitbart News late last year he thinks the entire fiscal cliff fight was a ploy on Obama's part just to get Republicans to break from their principles. If Obama gets enough Republicans to crack, Broun said, his Democrats could take back the House in 2014, giving him full control of Congress for his last two years as President.

"When your political party is chock-full of dumbasses, it is extremely likely that you will be politically outmanuevered."
 
2013-01-17 02:56:11 PM
That's your modern "conservative."  You courted, supported and promoted these teabagger idiots, GOP, enjoy being their biatches for the rest of your careers.

Muta: Heck, here in Michigan a Republican House and Republican Senate passed a law that raised taxes on everyone but the 1% and it was signed by a Republican governor.


I bet the middle-lower class Republibaggers thought that was just swell, too.
 
2013-01-17 02:59:02 PM

Epoch_Zero: Just dropping in to mention that Breitbart is still dead and the world is better for it. Carry on.


Behave yourself.
 
2013-01-17 03:00:40 PM
Matthew Boyle

/on my arse
 
2013-01-17 03:01:20 PM

Gyrfalcon: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: If the Republicans would've focused on something more long term than the outrage of the week, perhaps they wouldn't have been outflanked by an inexperienced community organizer.

But Benghazi!


I just thought it's been like close to a week now with no "This Democrat who is looking for office is now all at fault for Benghazi" story.
 
2013-01-17 03:02:59 PM
If you are against the tax increases passed last month, then you'd be correct to be angry with GOP congressmen who voted for it.

The GOP totally caved, not using the leverage they had (the dems desperately wanted tax rates to stay low for the 98% and extension of unemployment benefits), giving in to the tax increases they did while getting no spending cuts. The GOP could have held out for a better deal for themselves.

Now all the leverage they have is the raising of the debt ceiling, voting against which is ridiculous and makes you look like an asshole.
 
2013-01-17 03:03:54 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: If the Republicans would've focused on something more long term than the outrage of the week


or their #1 stated goal of making Fartbongo a one-term POTUS.
 
2013-01-17 03:09:36 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Schock is considering a run for Illinois governor in 2014.....

Schock's lawyers have reacted to the ad viscerally, demanding broadcasters in the congressman's district take it down. Shearer blamed Chicago billionaire Bruce Rauner, considered as another potential GOP gubernatorial candidate in the state, for the ad in that Facebook post, but Rauner denies being involved at all. The group that ran the ad is called "Jobs & Progress Fund," and it is unclear who funds it.

They really are going to run a candidate that is going to make Quinn look good by comparison, aren't they?



Oh like that's going to be hard to do. The entire state hates Quinn.

Schock is in my city. He's actually the ONLY (R) I voted for. He's not a bad guy, in the large picture of things. Which of course is why his party hates him, at least here locally. One of my friends went to college with him, he was always an actual conservative, not a raging nutbag.

/Now if he would just come out already, it's not like we don't know.
 
2013-01-17 03:10:26 PM

The Third Man: Georgia Republican Rep. Paul Broun, one of the most conservative members of the House, told Breitbart News late last year he thinks the entire fiscal cliff fight was a ploy on Obama's part just to get Republicans to break from their principles. If Obama gets enough Republicans to crack, Broun said, his Democrats could take back the House in 2014, giving him full control of Congress for his last two years as President.

"When your political party is chock-full of dumbasses, it is extremely likely that you will be politically outmanuevered."


Uuummmmm...didn't Congress get us into this predicament? Man, that can should have disintegrated by now it's been kicked so many times.
 
2013-01-17 03:11:14 PM

Muta: Heck, here in Michigan a Republican House and Republican Senate passed a law that raised taxes on everyone but the 1% and it was signed by a Republican governor.


It is Michigan's way to thank the job creators for everything they've done for them recently, duh.
 
2013-01-17 03:12:33 PM

Gyrfalcon: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: If the Republicans would've focused on something more long term than the outrage of the week, perhaps they wouldn't have been outflanked by an inexperienced community organizer.

But Benghazi!


Drink!
 
2013-01-17 03:23:10 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers:

Schock is in my city. He's actually the ONLY (R) I voted for. He's not a bad guy, in the large picture of things. Which of course is why his party hates him, at least here locally. One of my friends went to college with him, he was always an actual conservative, not a raging nutbag.

/Now if he would just come out already, it's not like we don't know.


I live in Schock's district, too. I wouldn't vote for him. He seems pretty punchable to me.
 
2013-01-17 03:23:55 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: If you are against the tax increases passed last month, then you'd be correct to be angry with GOP congressmen who voted for it.

The GOP totally caved, not using the leverage they had (the dems desperately wanted tax rates to stay low for the 98% and extension of unemployment benefits), giving in to the tax increases they did while getting no spending cuts. The GOP could have held out for a better deal for themselves.

Now all the leverage they have is the raising of the debt ceiling, voting against which is ridiculous and makes you look like an asshole.


You have a funny way of looking at "leverage". The tax rates were going up, and Obama wasn't signing anything exempting incomes over 400k. The GOP was going to take the full hit if taxes went up across the board. Obama looks to be done caving in to extremist GOP demands.
 
2013-01-17 03:26:25 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: If you are against the tax increases passed last month, then you'd be correct to be angry with GOP congressmen who voted for it.

The GOP totally caved, not using the leverage they had (the dems desperately wanted tax rates to stay low for the 98% and extension of unemployment benefits), giving in to the tax increases they did while getting no spending cuts. The GOP could have held out for a better deal for themselves.

Now all the leverage they have is the raising of the debt ceiling, voting against which is ridiculous and makes you look like an asshole.


No, they weren't going to get a better deal. The clock had run out and they had already lost. If ethey didn't take the deal on the table they were screwed completely. They didn't HAVE any leverage except blatant obstructionism which was about to hit the wallets of their entire base immediately.
 
2013-01-17 03:26:34 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Philip Francis Queeg: Schock is considering a run for Illinois governor in 2014.....

Schock's lawyers have reacted to the ad viscerally, demanding broadcasters in the congressman's district take it down. Shearer blamed Chicago billionaire Bruce Rauner, considered as another potential GOP gubernatorial candidate in the state, for the ad in that Facebook post, but Rauner denies being involved at all. The group that ran the ad is called "Jobs & Progress Fund," and it is unclear who funds it.

They really are going to run a candidate that is going to make Quinn look good by comparison, aren't they?


Oh like that's going to be hard to do. The entire state hates Quinn.

Schock is in my city. He's actually the ONLY (R) I voted for. He's not a bad guy, in the large picture of things. Which of course is why his party hates him, at least here locally. One of my friends went to college with him, he was always an actual conservative, not a raging nutbag.

/Now if he would just come out already, it's not like we don't know.


I can't possibly vote for anyone who signed Norquist's pledge.
 
2013-01-17 03:29:34 PM

FuturePastNow: Satan's Bunny Slippers:

Schock is in my city. He's actually the ONLY (R) I voted for. He's not a bad guy, in the large picture of things. Which of course is why his party hates him, at least here locally. One of my friends went to college with him, he was always an actual conservative, not a raging nutbag.

/Now if he would just come out already, it's not like we don't know.

I live in Schock's district, too. I wouldn't vote for him. He seems pretty punchable to me.


Given the other choices we had, he's all I could do, or leave it blank, and I don't like to leave boxes blank ;) But yeah, he's also punchable, but then almost all politicians are. I won't go out and rah rah for him by any means, he's just not batshiat crazy in my book.
 
2013-01-17 03:29:40 PM

Muta: Heck, here in Michigan a Republican House and Republican Senate passed a law that raised taxes on everyone but the 1% and it was signed by a Republican governor.


That wasn't as lol-worthy as the Republican state rep who tried to insert an amendment into the RTW bill to exclude her husband's job from the legislation.
 
2013-01-17 03:34:25 PM
Again the comments were the best part of the article.

Apparently anybody that actually does their job is a RINO, and sitting down to discus anything or plan ahead with other members of the House is a hanging offense.
 
2013-01-17 03:34:41 PM

Philip Francis Queeg:

I can't possibly vote for anyone who signed Norquist's pledge.


Valid point.

Sometimes it's hard to keep up on all the things that the person you're trying to decide on voting for has or has not done. I admit that I can get overwhelmed, mix things up, and sometimes just not pay attention like I should.

In short, I didn't know that when I voted for him. Or if I did know at some point, I had forgotten.
 
2013-01-17 03:41:22 PM

Mike_1962: Debeo Summa Credo: If you are against the tax increases passed last month, then you'd be correct to be angry with GOP congressmen who voted for it.

The GOP totally caved, not using the leverage they had (the dems desperately wanted tax rates to stay low for the 98% and extension of unemployment benefits), giving in to the tax increases they did while getting no spending cuts. The GOP could have held out for a better deal for themselves.

Now all the leverage they have is the raising of the debt ceiling, voting against which is ridiculous and makes you look like an asshole.

No, they weren't going to get a better deal. The clock had run out and they had already lost. If ethey didn't take the deal on the table they were screwed completely. They didn't HAVE any leverage except blatant obstructionism which was about to hit the wallets of their entire base immediately.


You think Obama and the dems would have let tax rates go up on everybody and let unemployment benefits expire just to make sure the 1% paid more?

Although that's what he shouldve done in the first place (make 90% of the bush tax cuts permanent is a horrible decision in the long term), I don't think he would've done it for very long. It was a game of chicken and the GOP lost.

Now the GOP is playing a game of chicken (debt ceiling) where they are clearly in the wrong.
 
2013-01-17 03:52:17 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: You think Obama and the dems would have let tax rates go up on everybody and let unemployment benefits expire just to make sure the 1% paid more?


That's exactly what happened.

The deadline was passed, tax rates went up. the majority of Americans blamed the Republicans, not Obama. That wasn't going to change if the Republicans dug their heels in and refused any action other than to extend all the tax cuts.
 
2013-01-17 04:18:55 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Now all the leverage they have is the raising of the debt ceiling, voting against which is ridiculous and makes you look like an asshole.


Republicans have absolutely nothing against being ridiculous and looking like assholes.
For that matter, you can forget 'looking' - they take pride in actually *being* assholes.
 
2013-01-17 04:29:36 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Debeo Summa Credo: You think Obama and the dems would have let tax rates go up on everybody and let unemployment benefits expire just to make sure the 1% paid more?

That's exactly what happened.

The deadline was passed, tax rates went up. the majority of Americans blamed the Republicans, not Obama. That wasn't going to change if the Republicans dug their heels in and refused any action other than to extend all the tax cuts.


It is exactly what happened. The GOP caved after the 1st because they feared popular opinion. When they could've played chicken longer and forced obama to choose between tax increases for everybody or nobody. Obama never had to make that choice. He never had to answer the question "why are you letting my unemployment benefits expire just to get 1/10th of the bush tax cuts back.

That's why these PACs are pissed. Now the GOP has no leverage whatsoever. They gave it up by extending middle class tax cuts and extending unemployment. Maybe they thought they could get the spending cuts they want via the debt ceiling negotiations, but that is absurd. They'll look much worse unilaterally driving us to default than they would going over the tax hike cliff with Obama.
 
2013-01-17 04:29:44 PM
I actually got to hear that commercial against Aaron Schock. I laughed because they are eating their own over them not having ABSOLUTE POWER to do whatever Republicans are supposed to do. In bowing to undeniable reality, they are tearing him up. From their perspective - if they where sane - what he did SHOULD be classified as "damage control." It is everything he could possibly do.
 
2013-01-17 04:37:07 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Philip Francis Queeg: Debeo Summa Credo: You think Obama and the dems would have let tax rates go up on everybody and let unemployment benefits expire just to make sure the 1% paid more?

That's exactly what happened.

The deadline was passed, tax rates went up. the majority of Americans blamed the Republicans, not Obama. That wasn't going to change if the Republicans dug their heels in and refused any action other than to extend all the tax cuts.

It is exactly what happened. The GOP caved after the 1st because they feared popular opinion. When they could've played chicken longer and forced obama to choose between tax increases for everybody or nobody. Obama never had to make that choice. He never had to answer the question "why are you letting my unemployment benefits expire just to get 1/10th of the bush tax cuts back.

That's why these PACs are pissed. Now the GOP has no leverage whatsoever. They gave it up by extending middle class tax cuts and extending unemployment. Maybe they thought they could get the spending cuts they want via the debt ceiling negotiations, but that is absurd. They'll look much worse unilaterally driving us to default than they would going over the tax hike cliff with Obama.


No no no. Obama could have simply not allowed any of it - not that reinstating the whole thing would get through the Senate in the first place - and rightly blamed Republicans for their inability/unwillingness to compromise on anything. I would point out that what was passed DOES reflect Democrats compromising.
 
2013-01-17 04:44:20 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: It is exactly what happened. The GOP caved after the 1st because they feared popular opinion. When they could've played chicken longer and forced obama to choose between tax increases for everybody or nobody. Obama never had to make that choice. He never had to answer the question "why are you letting my unemployment benefits expire just to get 1/10th of the bush tax cuts back.


No they couldn't force that. The only way to make Obama face that choice was to get a bill passed both the House and Senate, which was not even remotely possible. Since everyone with half a brain understood that was the case, any attempt to claim that would simply come off as Republican obstructionism and posturing.

The Republicans lost what little leverage they had when Boehner's "Plan B" went down.
 
2013-01-17 04:53:45 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: FuturePastNow: Satan's Bunny Slippers:

Schock is in my city. He's actually the ONLY (R) I voted for. He's not a bad guy, in the large picture of things. Which of course is why his party hates him, at least here locally. One of my friends went to college with him, he was always an actual conservative, not a raging nutbag.

/Now if he would just come out already, it's not like we don't know.

I live in Schock's district, too. I wouldn't vote for him. He seems pretty punchable to me.

Given the other choices we had, he's all I could do, or leave it blank, and I don't like to leave boxes blank ;) But yeah, he's also punchable, but then almost all politicians are. I won't go out and rah rah for him by any means, he's just not batshiat crazy in my book.


Oh, I've got no problem leaving fields on a ballot blank. I haven't voted for a governor in this state in ten years.
 
2013-01-17 05:48:46 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Now the GOP has no leverage whatsoever.


Remember me telling you that Obama had the leverage? And that the Republicans were going to take the blame no matter what?

Yeah, that was fun.
 
2013-01-18 01:56:48 AM

Heraclitus: Again the comments were the best part of the article.

Apparently anybody that actually does their job is a RINO, and sitting down to discus anything or plan ahead with other members of the House is a hanging offense.


It is.

"Compromise" and "negotiation" are four-letter words when you spell like a House Republican.
 
2013-01-18 09:37:31 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Debeo Summa Credo: Now the GOP has no leverage whatsoever.

Remember me telling you that Obama had the leverage? And that the Republicans were going to take the blame no matter what?

Yeah, that was fun.


Good job. You managed to use that leverage to get 90% of the bush tax cuts permanent with no cuts in spending.

That should work put great for the future. Hope you don't have kids.
 
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