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2013-01-18 01:14:07 PM  

Stormgren: X-boxershorts: This is just me speaking...I no longer work for the Cable ISP, but I really don't like the netflix plan. TWCable has more than enough dough to set up multiples of these SuperHD direct peers plus the traffic guarantee would be no problem. But, why should ISPs bear the costs of connecting to Netflix?
It's kind of a push situation, a break even for large ISPs...no more transit costs but still a recurring data center cross connect cost with possible large one time expenditure for the initial cross connect. At the same time, smaller regional ISPs (I am stuck on one of these) are shut out completely....

You make some really excellent points here. I can't really refute much of it. The smaller guys are probably going to get screwed on the cross-connect bit as well, and I guess I was thinking in terms of the bigger players.

Thanks for the discussion, it was fun.


Indeed, thank you
 
2013-01-18 02:34:48 PM  

X-boxershorts: Stormgren: X-boxershorts: This is just me speaking...I no longer work for the Cable ISP, but I really don't like the netflix plan. TWCable has more than enough dough to set up multiples of these SuperHD direct peers plus the traffic guarantee would be no problem. But, why should ISPs bear the costs of connecting to Netflix?
It's kind of a push situation, a break even for large ISPs...no more transit costs but still a recurring data center cross connect cost with possible large one time expenditure for the initial cross connect. At the same time, smaller regional ISPs (I am stuck on one of these) are shut out completely....

You make some really excellent points here. I can't really refute much of it. The smaller guys are probably going to get screwed on the cross-connect bit as well, and I guess I was thinking in terms of the bigger players.

Thanks for the discussion, it was fun.

Indeed, thank you


I'm also an engineer for a Cable ISP and you explained it much better than I did. We're one of the small guys, and actually have equipment in a couple of the Data Centers in the FAQ. We've tried to negotiate with Netflix but its prohibitively expensive for us to implement.

Fun fact. Netflix traffic regularly accounts for a full 30% of all data traffic on our network.
 
2013-01-18 03:33:05 PM  

IrateShadow: Kimpak: Netflix is going to have to do something soon though, as more and more ISP's adopt data caps. Its only a matter of time, data caps are here and are not going away.

Which is bullshiat, because bandwidth gets cheaper every day.


Which becomes profits for the provider, not savings for the consumer.
 
2013-01-18 04:05:46 PM  

Latinwolf: IrateShadow: Kimpak: Netflix is going to have to do something soon though, as more and more ISP's adopt data caps. Its only a matter of time, data caps are here and are not going away.

Which is bullshiat, because bandwidth gets cheaper every day.

Which becomes profits for the provider, not savings for the consumer.


That all depends on how much the consumer, consumes. I personally am against data caps. But if all I really did with the internet was check email, maybe share a few pics with family, then I could sign up for the lowest data tier, which is potentially lower monthly cost than the average. It also frees up more bandwidth for the power users who are paying more.
 
2013-01-18 11:59:33 PM  
When Yahoo, Trio Studios and Akamai bring incredible stuff like this to the edge of your network,
a geeky nerdy engineer wants to tell Netflix to go fark themselves


http://music.yahoo.com/programs/sweetwater/
 
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