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(CBS New York)   Arizona Cardinals fullback Reagan Mauia says he met Manti Te'o's fake dead girlfriend, Lennay Kekua, in person in 2011 - before she started allegedly dating Te'o - and that Mauia and Kekua became friends and Mauia was close to Kekua's family   (newyork.cbslocal.com) divider line 500
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2013-01-17 10:45:37 AM
I think that it's very important that we get to the bottom of a random football player's potential love life. Let's continue to make conjecture based on no knowledge whatsoever and interpret it to be what we want to believe.

I just find it really odd that everyone always wants to believe the star football player is gay (prior to this, it was Tebow).
 
2013-01-17 10:45:57 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: This is getting SO hilarious.

None of this changes the fact that Notre Dame covered up the story in December, whilst continuing to enjoy the resulting story line and associated jersey sales. Sanctions are a-comin'.


Don't forget the ESPN machine, that was beat to the story by Deadspin, has to get the last say, and state "We had the story 10 days ago, we just didn't report it yet"

Right.  So either ESPN did shoddy news reporting, or they did shoddy news reporting.
 
2013-01-17 10:47:47 AM

Lando Lincoln: This is a really slow news day.


It's winter. Remember Golden Voice Ted Williams? Or the obsession with Betty White? This shiat always happens in the winter. Because people have nothing to do.
 
2013-01-17 10:47:54 AM

KingsleyZisou: ongbok: NaziKamikaze: At least Johnny Manziel won the Heisman. Imagine the voting if this bullshiat wasn't always in the air.

Hell, since it's obvious he was compliant in this, he should be vacated from the list of eligible recipients.

That is one reason why I think this was a marketing scheme setup by either ND, an agent or a booster to raise Teo's Heisman stock. Also if this was just Teo doing this himself without the school's knowledge, I don't think they would be sticking with him through all of this especially with this thing getting sillier and sillier by the minute. ND is part of this hoax and they are trying to keep it from coming out.

I too don't understand ND's motivation to support Teo. If he is a fraud, throw him under the bus and protect the institution. I however don't think the school is "in on it." What would they have to gain from such a scheme? Maybe publicity from the Heisman campaign but that only happened in year 4 of this charade.

I think Teo had convinced the administration that he is a victim. Pathological liars will spin any situation to suit their needs. They are very good at convincing people. Just my theory though.

/this while thing is hilarious
//Catfish and Lance Armstrong are doing backflips with joy today


Or he may have been really scammed by someone. And if he was it probably involved him sending them money. It could have been somebody that befriended him on Facebook or whatever and used his naivety to lead him on and con him into sending them money over the years.Then decided to go for the big score and threatened to expose the whole thing if he didn't pat up. This has been known to happen.
 
2013-01-17 10:47:59 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: coolio mack:
And I don't buy into the whole doing it for publicity bit at all. Te'o was the #1 linebacker coming out of college, he'd been a very good NFL player, and he had plenty of NFL buzz last year. Notre Dame going 12-0 would've automatically boosted his profile anyways since he was the best player and leader of the defense.

It's not Manti who's the issue here. Like you pointed out above who the real central figure is... just gotta figure out his angle.
- Troll job? (any number of dudes at who put the lulz before anything else)
- Revenge plot? (Mhissy)
- Just bored and it was interesting to keep it going? (any number of women who use their daughter's high school photos to trawl horny men on adult dating sites)
- Money, gifts, notoriety and feeling loved/important? (the Total Farker who fled to Reddit)

A dude scamming another dude doesn't mean that the second dude is gay. Just means the second dude got duped. It was real to Manti, dammit. And yeah, this started out as Manti being duped and being completely innocent.

I hope he didn't run with it, though.


The total darker who fled to reddit... What did I miss? Was it GD, by chance?
 
2013-01-17 10:49:42 AM
Whatever the outcome of this story and whatever the reason behind the hoax, can we all finally agree that ESPN is an absolute joke that should never be taken seriously as a legitimate source for sports news ever again?
 
2013-01-17 10:50:02 AM
Isn't it kind of weird that Lennay Kekua is like... kind of close to being an anagram of leukemia? Possibly if it was spelled by a poor speller?

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2013-01-17 10:50:05 AM

Lost Thought 00: wiwille: I can't understand why most of the media reporting on this is missing this obvious detail.

The answer is simple. Notre Dame has told the various outlets, including ESPN, that if they don't go along with their official explanation, they will cut them off from all access to the university and their students and employees. This is why Te'o is giving an interview today only to ESPN, so they can control the message and not open this up to general questioning


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2013-01-17 10:50:38 AM

IAmRight: I just find it really odd that everyone always wants to believe the star football player is gay (prior to this, it was Tebow).


Have you met people who hate football? All they do is talk about how "homoerotic" the sport is, like its supposed to strike a nerve or something.
 
2013-01-17 10:50:39 AM
Also, if he figured it out at some point, man, that's a pretty embarrassing admission to make. But yeah, always go with the "we broke up" instead of "she's dead."

/it's disturbing that anyone cares enough to actually go digging through to look for this information
 
2013-01-17 10:51:48 AM

wiwille: Lost Thought 00: wiwille: I can't understand why most of the media reporting on this is missing this obvious detail.

The answer is simple. Notre Dame has told the various outlets, including ESPN, that if they don't go along with their official explanation, they will cut them off from all access to the university and their students and employees. This is why Te'o is giving an interview today only to ESPN, so they can control the message and not open this up to general questioning

[urbanflyventures.com image 400x300]


well that was close
 
2013-01-17 10:51:54 AM
Mahu
 
2013-01-17 10:52:44 AM

sigdiamond2000: Whatever the outcome of this story and whatever the reason behind the hoax, can we all finally agree that ESPN is an absolute joke that should never be taken seriously as a legitimate source for sports news ever again?


This is not a repeat from last year, or the year before that, or....

They are "entertainment" and not news. They often get the breaking news and make it a narrative.
 
2013-01-17 10:53:49 AM
I want it to be known that I farked Lennay Kekua before and after she became famous.
 
2013-01-17 10:55:51 AM

IAmRight: Also, if he figured it out at some point, man, that's a pretty embarrassing admission to make. But yeah, always go with the "we broke up" instead of "she's dead."

/it's disturbing that anyone cares enough to actually go digging through to look for this information


Good to hear your take. Here in SEC territory we get all the real, live girls we want. We just lie about the steroids.

Dude was covering for gay and it got out of hand. Lesson for the kids, If you are gay, just be gay. You don't need to cover.
 
2013-01-17 10:56:45 AM
What's really blowing my mind is TFA says Kekua's mom was controlling the Kekua Twitter account. Regardless of Te'o's involvement or non-involvement, this has all the makings of a bad made-for-TV movie where a mom and her beautiful daughter are in on a ruse together.
 
2013-01-17 10:57:22 AM

DamnYankees: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Did Manti start the investigation, or did his family? If he still believes, in spite of his family.... Or was he advised to pretend that everything was okay by someone else? December 26 to January 3rd, is that a lot of time for an investigation, or would it still be ongoing by the time of the interview?

So you think it was reported to ND that she wasn't real on 12/26, but Manti didn't believe that, and in fact he believed she was real so much he was still doing public interviews about her a week later despite knowing this investigation was happening?



Exactly, why not just say nothing about her and talk about the upcoming game. He blew any credibility out of the water by claiming they had met. No way he wasn't in on this.
 
2013-01-17 10:57:53 AM
Manti is gay. The girlfriend was invented so he and his boyfriend could be cute in public on Twitter without actually being public. The death was their breakup. ESPN saw a game coming up in California where his girlfriend would attend and they wanted to put her on TV for Musburger to make creepy comments. Fearing the truth would come out, she had to die.
 
2013-01-17 10:59:19 AM
Mecca lecca hi, mecca hiney ho

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2013-01-17 11:01:43 AM

IAmRight: I think that it's very important that we get to the bottom of a random football player's potential love life. Let's continue to make conjecture based on no knowledge whatsoever and interpret it to be what we want to believe.

I just find it really odd that everyone always wants to believe the star football player is gay (prior to this, it was Tebow).


It's almost like this story is confined to the sports tab, and the player in question used is love life as a sob story to up his votes for the most famous college football award. The reason I believe he is in the closet, along with that the facts support it, is that the alternative is he lied about the entire relationship with the purpose of getting those Heisman votes, which is just terribly scummy. Plus, they've claimed in the past that Teo met his GF, so its hardly conjecture to say there is some BS here.


wiwille: Lost Thought 00: wiwille: I can't understand why most of the media reporting on this is missing this obvious detail.

The answer is simple. Notre Dame has told the various outlets, including ESPN, that if they don't go along with their official explanation, they will cut them off from all access to the university and their students and employees. This is why Te'o is giving an interview today only to ESPN, so they can control the message and not open this up to general questioning

[urbanflyventures.com image 400x300]


You really think its coincidence that the AD's interview was with CSN, aka NBC, who has a hell of alot of money to lose if the ND football program blows up

/good job by the reporters to not ask softball questions but still
 
2013-01-17 11:04:10 AM
soonerpsycho.com
 
2013-01-17 11:04:11 AM

IAmRight: I think that it's very important that we get to the bottom of a random football player's potential love life. Let's continue to make conjecture based on no knowledge whatsoever and interpret it to be what we want to believe.

I just find it really odd that everyone always wants to believe the star football player is gay (prior to this, it was Tebow).


The deadspin article has a lot more than conjecture. However, him possibly being gay is, and irrelevant.
 
2013-01-17 11:05:19 AM

IAmRight: I just find it really odd that everyone always wants to believe the star football player is gay (prior to this, it was Tebow).


In this case, we want to believe that because its the most charitable reading of events.
 
2013-01-17 11:05:42 AM

Wellon Dowd: Mecca lecca hi, mecca hiney ho


I love you
 
2013-01-17 11:05:43 AM

Cybernetic: Yeah, but she's from Canada twitter. You wouldn't know her.

 
2013-01-17 11:06:40 AM

Moopy Mac: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Moopy Mac:
You really want to believe.

Saw it happen in real time. More than one occasion. I'm always more likely to give the benefit of the doubt to the dupes, when shiat like this comes down the pike. Unlike others, I never find that shiat funny or say that the dupe deserved it.

Despite his comments about him meeting this person (along with all of the other evidence), you still want to believe.


Folks on this thread acting like it's outside the realm of possibility, have lived in the nice parts of the internet. Must be nice. Like I said, I usually give the benefit of the doubt to the duped.

If he was that invested in what turned out to be a male acquaintance fking with him, then his saying that he missed the phone calls isn't a lie. What he is implying about those phone calls is a lie, but his saying that he missed the phone calls is not.

While the investigation was ongoing, was he given ANY guidance about how to deal with the public, and how to answer questions? If he wasn't the one who started the investigation, then his heart is going to rebel against any 'proof' unless its showstopping. If he was the one who asked for the investigation, not his family, then something else was happening. It's the difference between a woman being forced by her family to disavow her fiance, and a woman walking in on her fiance screwing her best friend.

The Tuiasosopo angle is the key. I likecoolio mack's conspiracy theory. But (because I remember the stories of the ladies who are duped by other women in real life and in bed who pretend to be men) I also say it's possible for Manti to be completely innocent this whole time, and not knowing how to deal with a quickly falling apart world.

I haven't heard Tuiasosopo's voice. Is it kinda high for a guy?
 
2013-01-17 11:08:32 AM

DamnYankees: IAmRight: I just find it really odd that everyone always wants to believe the star football player is gay (prior to this, it was Tebow).

In this case, we want to believe that because its the most charitable reading of events.


Good point. But like others have said, wouldn't just finding a "fake" girlfriend on campus be a lot easier?
 
2013-01-17 11:09:41 AM

Bartleby the Scrivener: It's unfortunate that we cannot ask Seau about the relationships between Polamua, Te'o, Mauai and Kekua, so we may have to ask Manu Tuiasosopo or Tui Alailefaleula.


that may be the best sentence I have ever read.
 
2013-01-17 11:11:08 AM

Solid State Vittles: I want it to be known that I farked Lennay Kekua before and after she became famous died.


FTFY
 
2013-01-17 11:12:42 AM
Of teh million things Ive heard about this since last night all I can say this is some weird shiat. And when/if the truth comes out it wont be as weird as the story around it.
 
2013-01-17 11:13:07 AM
I have a theory now. Tuisasopo (sic, fark that spelling shiat) and Teo had some girl meet Mauia so it would look plausible that Teo had a girlfriend. its an elaborate con to protect Teo from coming out as gay.
 
2013-01-17 11:13:18 AM

CADMonkey79: DamnYankees: IAmRight: I just find it really odd that everyone always wants to believe the star football player is gay (prior to this, it was Tebow).

In this case, we want to believe that because its the most charitable reading of events.

Good point. But like others have said, wouldn't just finding a "fake" girlfriend on campus be a lot easier?


Then she has to be at every home game and put on TV for Musburger comments.
 
2013-01-17 11:14:25 AM
The guy has never had a cup of coffee, or a Coca Cola. Think about that.

He's a Hawaiian Mormon, to the extent his parents let him have a girlfriend, they were thrilled it was a computer girlfriend.

I Vote "Completely Duped" due to vigorously controlling family and religious community.
 
2013-01-17 11:15:02 AM

coolio mack: he said he talked to her everyday for four months straight until he falls asleep, only to wake up and find they had an eight hour call and he could hear her breathing on the other end.


There's something about this detail that bothers me. My phone lines automatically disconnect after four hours, whether landline, VoIP or cellular. I assume this is because the system wants to free up the circuit, and there is a timeout built in. (I work from home mostly, and occasionally I am on conference calls that literally go all day.)

Is that just me, or does somebody else out have a phone line that will stay connected all night with nothing happening?
 
2013-01-17 11:15:24 AM

CADMonkey79: DamnYankees: IAmRight: I just find it really odd that everyone always wants to believe the star football player is gay (prior to this, it was Tebow).

In this case, we want to believe that because its the most charitable reading of events.

Good point. But like others have said, wouldn't just finding a "fake" girlfriend on campus be a lot easier?


If the Ronnie guy was his BF though, this lets them flirt on Twitter and all that crap since Ronne controlled the Lennie account.
 
2013-01-17 11:15:48 AM

IAmRight: Also, if he figured it out at some point, man, that's a pretty embarrassing admission to make. But yeah, always go with the "we broke up" instead of "she's dead."

/it's disturbing that anyone cares enough to actually go digging through to look for this information


If that was the entire story, you'd be right. This is either about a guy either systematically lying to every news outlet that he could find for years (and being happy to ride the wave of sympathy that came with it), a naive top-10 NFL pick being duped by a third party for four years, or (without rehashing what I've said above) the pressures of presenting yourself as one way when you're something different. Who knew? Who went along with what? Who lied about what to protect who?

Also, as a guy with a journalism degree that's seen newspapers die a slow, painful death and stories get compromised because of the interest of a parent company (ESPN supposedly sitting on the story until Deadspin forced their hand, CNET removing a product from its Best of CES awards because CBS told them to, etc.), it's interesting that this is where the "real journalism" is coming from.
 
2013-01-17 11:17:54 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Moopy Mac: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Moopy Mac:
You really want to believe.

Saw it happen in real time. More than one occasion. I'm always more likely to give the benefit of the doubt to the dupes, when shiat like this comes down the pike. Unlike others, I never find that shiat funny or say that the dupe deserved it.

Despite his comments about him meeting this person (along with all of the other evidence), you still want to believe.

Folks on this thread acting like it's outside the realm of possibility, have lived in the nice parts of the internet. Must be nice. Like I said, I usually give the benefit of the doubt to the duped.

If he was that invested in what turned out to be a male acquaintance fking with him, then his saying that he missed the phone calls isn't a lie. What he is implying about those phone calls is a lie, but his saying that he missed the phone calls is not.

While the investigation was ongoing, was he given ANY guidance about how to deal with the public, and how to answer questions? If he wasn't the one who started the investigation, then his heart is going to rebel against any 'proof' unless its showstopping. If he was the one who asked for the investigation, not his family, then something else was happening. It's the difference between a woman being forced by her family to disavow her fiance, and a woman walking in on her fiance screwing her best friend.

The Tuiasosopo angle is the key. I likecoolio mack's conspiracy theory. But (because I remember the stories of the ladies who are duped by other women in real life and in bed who pretend to be men) I also say it's possible for Manti to be completely innocent this whole time, and not knowing how to deal with a quickly falling apart world.

I haven't heard Tuiasosopo's voice. Is it kinda high for a guy?


No, the lie was that he made up an entire backstory about how they met and then about the multiple times they met in person during their relationship. These stories were presented well before any investigation began (and actually assisted in proving that that whole thing was a sham to start with).

I have no idea what your comment has to do with that part of the picture. There was no implication. There were statements of fact that were fabricated.
 
2013-01-17 11:18:25 AM
He's either gay and this was how he was constructing a beard so he didn't have to live up to the expectation of being a football stud that bangs a dozen co-eds a week, or the (dumb footbal player) + (naive, believe-anything mormon) combination just created the ultimate sucker.
 
2013-01-17 11:19:34 AM

ha-ha-guy: CADMonkey79: DamnYankees: IAmRight: I just find it really odd that everyone always wants to believe the star football player is gay (prior to this, it was Tebow).

In this case, we want to believe that because its the most charitable reading of events.

Good point. But like others have said, wouldn't just finding a "fake" girlfriend on campus be a lot easier?

If the Ronnie guy was his BF though, this lets them flirt on Twitter and all that crap since Ronne controlled the Lennie account.


True, but that is a lot of risk to take just to flirt in public.
 
2013-01-17 11:21:46 AM

halfof33: The guy has never had a cup of coffee, or a Coca Cola. Think about that.

He's a Hawaiian Mormon, to the extent his parents let him have a girlfriend, they were thrilled it was a computer girlfriend.

I Vote "Completely Duped" due to vigorously controlling family and religious community.


If he is so naive and innocent then why lie about meeting her in person?
 
2013-01-17 11:22:11 AM

CADMonkey79: ha-ha-guy: CADMonkey79: DamnYankees: IAmRight: I just find it really odd that everyone always wants to believe the star football player is gay (prior to this, it was Tebow).

In this case, we want to believe that because its the most charitable reading of events.

Good point. But like others have said, wouldn't just finding a "fake" girlfriend on campus be a lot easier?

If the Ronnie guy was his BF though, this lets them flirt on Twitter and all that crap since Ronne controlled the Lennie account.

True, but that is a lot of risk to take just to flirt in public.


It also gives him a cover story for stopping off in Cali on his way to and from Hawaii (or even just over break). I agree it isn't the most foolproof way to do this, but isn't way out of left field given some of the benefits you get from it. This might have been the best a pair of semi intelligent Mormons could come up with or they had enough hubris to think they could make it work, without thinking of long term issues like when ESPN wants to do a puff piece on his GF.
 
2013-01-17 11:23:38 AM

ha-ha-guy: CADMonkey79: ha-ha-guy: CADMonkey79: DamnYankees: IAmRight: I just find it really odd that everyone always wants to believe the star football player is gay (prior to this, it was Tebow).

In this case, we want to believe that because its the most charitable reading of events.

Good point. But like others have said, wouldn't just finding a "fake" girlfriend on campus be a lot easier?

If the Ronnie guy was his BF though, this lets them flirt on Twitter and all that crap since Ronne controlled the Lennie account.

True, but that is a lot of risk to take just to flirt in public.

It also gives him a cover story for stopping off in Cali on his way to and from Hawaii (or even just over break). I agree it isn't the most foolproof way to do this, but isn't way out of left field given some of the benefits you get from it. This might have been the best a pair of semi intelligent Mormons could come up with or they had enough hubris to think they could make it work, without thinking of long term issues like when ESPN wants to do a puff piece on his GF.


The other thing is lets him use some of the details from his gay relationship. Like he can say he went to some beach in Cali or whatever, he just has to remember to say he took Lenny not Ronnie. Or the whole thing started as a knee jerk because some girl hit on Te'o, the first thing that came to mind was "I have a SO in California" and then he was stuck with the lie, etc.
 
2013-01-17 11:24:10 AM
The call is coming from inside the house!
 
2013-01-17 11:24:38 AM
ND canceled the interview with Te'o for today. I guess they still need more time to flesh out their cover story
 
2013-01-17 11:24:45 AM

CADMonkey79: halfof33: The guy has never had a cup of coffee, or a Coca Cola. Think about that.

He's a Hawaiian Mormon, to the extent his parents let him have a girlfriend, they were thrilled it was a computer girlfriend.

I Vote "Completely Duped" due to vigorously controlling family and religious community.

If he is so naive and innocent then why lie about meeting her in person?


Would you admit to being involved with someone you've never met?
 
2013-01-17 11:25:06 AM
i406.photobucket.com

She is both real and really fake, Papa Moai has spoken from every where at every time.
 
2013-01-17 11:25:12 AM

halfof33: The guy has never had a cup of coffee, or a Coca Cola. Think about that.

He's a Hawaiian Mormon, to the extent his parents let him have a girlfriend, they were thrilled it was a computer girlfriend.

I Vote "Completely Duped" due to vigorously controlling family and religious community.


So why did he continue to lie about it after he and his family allegedly told ND that it was a hoax?
 
2013-01-17 11:26:56 AM

Gwendolyn: CADMonkey79: halfof33: The guy has never had a cup of coffee, or a Coca Cola. Think about that.

He's a Hawaiian Mormon, to the extent his parents let him have a girlfriend, they were thrilled it was a computer girlfriend.

I Vote "Completely Duped" due to vigorously controlling family and religious community.

If he is so naive and innocent then why lie about meeting her in person?

Would you admit to being involved with someone you've never met?


I guess I would admit we never actually met.
 
2013-01-17 11:27:25 AM
This all must be a coverup for his involvement in smuggling drugs from Hawaii. Thai Stick...yeah, that's it.
 
2013-01-17 11:28:05 AM

sigdiamond2000: halfof33: The guy has never had a cup of coffee, or a Coca Cola. Think about that.

He's a Hawaiian Mormon, to the extent his parents let him have a girlfriend, they were thrilled it was a computer girlfriend.

I Vote "Completely Duped" due to vigorously controlling family and religious community.

So why did he continue to lie about it after he and his family allegedly told ND that it was a hoax?


Not to mention all of the stories before they knew it was a hoax.
 
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