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(CBS New York)   Arizona Cardinals fullback Reagan Mauia says he met Manti Te'o's fake dead girlfriend, Lennay Kekua, in person in 2011 - before she started allegedly dating Te'o - and that Mauia and Kekua became friends and Mauia was close to Kekua's family   (newyork.cbslocal.com) divider line 500
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2013-01-17 10:10:02 AM
This is a really slow news day.
 
2013-01-17 10:10:22 AM

SlothB77: Arizona Cardinals fullback Reagan Mauia said he met Lennay Kekua in person during an outreach trip with Troy Polamalu of the Pittsburgh Steelers and others in June 2011.

I am curious if Polamalu was with Mauia when Mauia met Kekua.


Shaka, when the walls fell.
 
2013-01-17 10:11:05 AM

Bartleby the Scrivener: so we may have to ask Manu Tuiasosopo or Tui Alailefaleula.


hahaha.  Maybe Marques Tuiasosopo.  Don't forget about him.Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala might know something.


crazytrain: Wow - TIL Somoa is not in the Caribbean, but is out in the middle of f***ing nowhere.

Somoa

/geography fail


Also spelling fail: Samoa.
 
2013-01-17 10:12:16 AM
So this guy also had a few dates with Te'o? The gay football mafia is outing itself.
 
2013-01-17 10:14:15 AM
There are some pictures that corroborate Mauia's claims that he met her in Samoa:

www.puretravel.com
 
2013-01-17 10:14:33 AM

RAWISRADFORD: I don't think they were "boyfriend and girlfriend" for four years.

So what starts as a setup by a hanger on(er) intensifies in his senior year with a money grab planned after the draft.

Plans to meet - expressions of love.

But as the "missed" dates and meetups pile up - the mark loses interest.

the "prankster" looks to string him along with car accidents and cancer as reasons for not being able to meet and when even that's doesn't work - well cut and run "she's dead".

I grew up around some of these insulated religious islanders. If anyone would call someone they have only communicated with on the phone or online - it's these guys - and farkers.


Should read

If anyone would call someone they have only communicated with on the phone or online - GIRLFRIEND - it's these guys - and farkers
 
2013-01-17 10:14:48 AM

abhorrent1: So some b/tards owned a college footbal player? Why is this such big news?


Because the evidence suggests he was in on it, and the were monetary donations made in the fake dead girls name.
 
2013-01-17 10:16:06 AM

SlothB77: Bartleby the Scrivener: so we may have to ask Manu Tuiasosopo or Tui Alailefaleula.

hahaha.  Maybe Marques Tuiasosopo.  Don't forget about him.Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala might know something.


crazytrain: Wow - TIL Somoa is not in the Caribbean, but is out in the middle of f***ing nowhere.

Somoa

/geography fail

Also spelling fail: Samoa.


Tuiasosopo is Marques's nephew or cousin our something. It's in the dead spin article linked earlier.

One of his relations died recently and is a former Cardinal. Is that the connection between Mauia and this imaginary person?
 
2013-01-17 10:16:55 AM

ATRDCI: For those wondering why he doesn't just come out, he's an Hawaiian mormon, who are (at least generally) very sheltered and conservative, and is going to the school that hasn't let a LGBT group form for 20 years, and now they are letting it form, they are forcing the group to promote chastity.

Add in to the fact that his dad probably didn't want to believe his star football son was gay, I can understand why he created the girlfriend (though the car accident/cancer part was not smart)


That's why I believe that this is not only the most likely scenario, but the one that puts Te'o in the most sympathetic light. If he comes out, he's upsetting every institution that raised him, not to mention the great unknown of being the first openly gay active athlete in an NFL locker room.
 
2013-01-17 10:17:25 AM

Frozboz: The biggest loser in this story? Oprah. No one cares about Lance Armstrong now.


Lance Armstrong is known around the world and clips from Oprah's interview with him will be shown on lots of foreign news and sports broadcasts.
Who is this Teo guy again?
 
2013-01-17 10:20:18 AM

Dansker: Frozboz: The biggest loser in this story? Oprah. No one cares about Lance Armstrong now.

Lance Armstrong is known around the world and clips from Oprah's interview with him will be shown on lots of foreign news and sports broadcasts.
Who is this Teo guy again?


But Lance doing PEDs is old news. That fight has been going on for decades. Also, nobody outside France gives a shiat about cycling.

/same thing with football and America
//America is much larger than France
 
2013-01-17 10:20:33 AM
My newest theory:

MTV hired Manti Te'o several years ago. And this is all one big viral publicity stunt for the TV show Catfish.

Or he's gay.
 
2013-01-17 10:21:14 AM
This is only really a news story because the sports media did a shiat-ass job of journalism, and blindly let this story drive their coverage of the sport.

Now that it has been revealed as fake, no matter why it's fake, the media is angry that they've been embarassed.

The media with egg on its face is the only reason this is big news.
 
2013-01-17 10:21:26 AM

SlothB77: Arizona Cardinals fullback Reagan Mauia said he met Lennay Kekua in person during an outreach trip with Troy Polamalu of the Pittsburgh Steelers and others in June 2011.

I am curious if Polamalu was with Mauia when Mauia met Kekua.


idunno.
 
2013-01-17 10:22:07 AM

RAWISRADFORD: I grew up around some of these insulated religious islanders. If anyone would call someone they have only communicated with on the phone or online

their girlfriend - it's these guys - and farkers.

ftfy
 
2013-01-17 10:22:50 AM
Lennay Kekua sounds like a good name for a Polynesian-style Luscious Jackson tribute band
 
2013-01-17 10:23:31 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Igor Jakovsky: DamnYankees: FraggleStickCar: ExperianScaresCthulhu:

Dude's a dupe, a victim.


Only problem with this is that Manti, his father, and the university all claimed more than once and on separate occasions that Manti and his "girlfriend" had frequently met each other and spent time together in person. It's pretty clear that he was in on the whole sham on some level.

Check out the Deadspin article for more info: Link

Also, the idea he's a dupe is just not plausible. We live in the age of Skype and Facetime. He never did a video chat with this person? Please.

Hell 14 or so years ago I was using the little videoconferencing program that came with windows. I think it was called netmeeting. Anyway, that technology has been usable by anyone with a webcam almost as long as this kid has been alive. Definitely not plausible unless they had a real girl on the other end playing Lennay. I doubt that happened because the guy was sent pics of another girl who wasnt in on it.

Picture Ims/Netmeetings/Skype video conferencing can be faked in real time. Adult Chat Hos have been using (and perfecting) the technology for like 15 years, man. A phone call don't mean shiat. Meetings don't have to mean shiat. A skype meeting doesn't mean shiat either.


You really want to believe.
 
2013-01-17 10:23:53 AM
Ok I've been on fark a good while and I'm a huge ND fan that can't wait to find out what happened with this bs, but what's the Tf, reddit story?
 
2013-01-17 10:23:54 AM
Is this kid mentally retarded? How does a grown-ass man - who's attending college (the would suggest a light is at least on up stairs) - claim he is in a relationship with a person he's never met in real life?


He needs to be in those annoying Subway commercials where the dick tease co-workers always steal that desk jockey's sandwich.
 
2013-01-17 10:23:58 AM
Did he really not know how to end a fake internet relationship?
You don't kill them off. You break up with them, amicably, due to growing apart over time.

I'm loving Gene Wojciechowski's spin on how he half-assed the research on the girlfriend, and basically said "oh well" when he couldn't find out any information about her.
 
2013-01-17 10:24:20 AM
A.J. McCarron +1
Monti Te'o -1
 
2013-01-17 10:24:36 AM

Lando Lincoln: This is a really slow news day.


the sad part is, actually it isn't.  there is some hostage crisis in algeria.
 
2013-01-17 10:26:11 AM
i152.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-17 10:26:23 AM

RAWISRADFORD: I don't think they were "boyfriend and girlfriend" for four years.

So what starts as a setup by a hanger on(er) intensifies in his senior year with a money grab planned after the draft.

Plans to meet - expressions of love.

But as the "missed" dates and meetups pile up - the mark loses interest.

the "prankster" looks to string him along with car accidents and cancer as reasons for not being able to meet and when even that's doesn't work - well cut and run "she's dead".

I grew up around some of these insulated religious islanders. If anyone would call someone they have only communicated with on the phone or online - it's these guys - and farkers.


Again the problem with that is that Mani claimed to have met her. What reason would he have to lie about meeting her if he truly believed she was real and was duped?
 
2013-01-17 10:26:41 AM

KingsleyZisou: Also, nobody outside France gives a shiat about cycling.


This is what you really believe.
 
2013-01-17 10:26:51 AM

SlothB77: Lando Lincoln: This is a really slow news day.

the sad part is, actually it isn't.  there is some hostage crisis in algeria.


Sure there is. I bet Te'o made that stuff up to try to deflect attention.
 
2013-01-17 10:27:16 AM
Except Te'o said he met her in person in 2009. So 2011 is not "before Manti."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/print/865564585/Manti-Teo-A-caree r- that-has-come-full-circle.html
 
2013-01-17 10:27:42 AM
As someone who just went on a date with a girl I met online, I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-01-17 10:31:24 AM
I just posted the Deseret News link in the comments on the CBS story and it was moderated and posted--and then deleted. WTF.
 
2013-01-17 10:32:08 AM

Moopy Mac:
You really want to believe.


Saw it happen in real time. More than one occasion. I'm always more likely to give the benefit of the doubt to the dupes, when shiat like this comes down the pike. Unlike others, I never find that shiat funny or say that the dupe deserved it.
 
2013-01-17 10:32:31 AM
I'm not dumb, but I can't understand,
Why she tweets like a woman but talks like a man,
Oh my Lennay. La-La-La-La-Lennay.
 
2013-01-17 10:34:14 AM

Incorrigible Astronaut: [25.media.tumblr.com image 455x382]


I laughed way too hard at this.
 
2013-01-17 10:35:15 AM

FraggleStickCar: RAWISRADFORD: I don't think they were "boyfriend and girlfriend" for four years.

So what starts as a setup by a hanger on(er) intensifies in his senior year with a money grab planned after the draft.

Plans to meet - expressions of love.

But as the "missed" dates and meetups pile up - the mark loses interest.

the "prankster" looks to string him along with car accidents and cancer as reasons for not being able to meet and when even that's doesn't work - well cut and run "she's dead".

I grew up around some of these insulated religious islanders. If anyone would call someone they have only communicated with on the phone or online - it's these guys - and farkers.

Again the problem with that is that Mani claimed to have met her. What reason would he have to lie about meeting her if he truly believed she was real and was duped?


Tuiasosopo got an old school acquaintance who barely remembered him to send a picture to a friend in the hospital by telling her he thought she was pretty. Not that big of a step to convince another chick to pretend to be someone else for a meeting in order to lighten up his bro's day, you know?
 
2013-01-17 10:35:30 AM
This is getting SO hilarious.

None of this changes the fact that Notre Dame covered up the story in December, whilst continuing to enjoy the resulting story line and associated jersey sales. Sanctions are a-comin'.
 
2013-01-17 10:37:22 AM
According to Deadspin and ND, Manti and his family reported his victimness to the administration, and they launched a full investigation on Dec 26th.

Then on Jan 3rd Manti talked to a reporter about her and how much he missed her. Why would you do that when you know she's not real? It's because he made her up all along. He's no vicitm, and I can't understand why most of the media reporting on this is missing this obvious detail.
 
2013-01-17 10:37:24 AM

FinFangFark: He's either a conman or just epically stupid.


That's the beauty of this. Te'o is:

1. The dumbest farking person on the planet (sup Notre Dame admission standards)
2. A soulless con man.
3. Covering up the fact he's gay.

I'm going with #3 considering how Samoan culture, Mormonism, the NFL, and the Catholic Church view homosexuality. Plus if that was the case, his boyfriend was a pastor.

/also if it is #3, Te'o has to be farked up in the head
 
2013-01-17 10:39:34 AM
all this discussion of Samoa has reminded me to buy girl scout cookies.
 
2013-01-17 10:40:27 AM

wiwille: According to Deadspin and ND, Manti and his family reported his victimness to the administration, and they launched a full investigation on Dec 26th.

Then on Jan 3rd Manti talked to a reporter about her and how much he missed her. Why would you do that when you know she's not real? It's because he made her up all along. He's no vicitm, and I can't understand why most of the media reporting on this is missing this obvious detail.


Keep in mind that ND has tremendous PR resources and controls the media out of South Bend. So a lot of derp is radiating from the source of all this. And the national media is lazy as sh*t.
 
2013-01-17 10:41:16 AM
I had a stroke trying to read that title.
 
2013-01-17 10:41:27 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I just can't see how this can come out positive for the guy. Besides, who is in the market for a slightly undersized Samoan linebacker?


www.kayfabenews.com

you rang?
 
2013-01-17 10:41:34 AM

wiwille: According to Deadspin and ND, Manti and his family reported his victimness to the administration, and they launched a full investigation on Dec 26th.

Then on Jan 3rd Manti talked to a reporter about her and how much he missed her. Why would you do that when you know she's not real? It's because he made her up all along. He's no vicitm, and I can't understand why most of the media reporting on this is missing this obvious detail.


Did Manti start the investigation, or did his family? If he still believes, in spite of his family.... Or was he advised to pretend that everything was okay by someone else? December 26 to January 3rd, is that a lot of time for an investigation, or would it still be ongoing by the time of the interview?
 
2013-01-17 10:42:11 AM

wiwille: According to Deadspin and ND, Manti and his family reported his victimness to the administration, and they launched a full investigation on Dec 26th.

Then on Jan 3rd Manti talked to a reporter about her and how much he missed her. Why would you do that when you know she's not real? It's because he made her up all along. He's no vicitm, and I can't understand why most of the media reporting on this is missing this obvious detail.


The Catholic Church has a lot of experience in lying like a whore.
 
2013-01-17 10:42:31 AM
is100.imagesocket.com

 
2013-01-17 10:43:01 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Did Manti start the investigation, or did his family? If he still believes, in spite of his family.... Or was he advised to pretend that everything was okay by someone else? December 26 to January 3rd, is that a lot of time for an investigation, or would it still be ongoing by the time of the interview?


So you think it was reported to ND that she wasn't real on 12/26, but Manti didn't believe that, and in fact he believed she was real so much he was still doing public interviews about her a week later despite knowing this investigation was happening?
 
2013-01-17 10:44:22 AM
 
2013-01-17 10:44:40 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: coolio mack:
And I don't buy into the whole doing it for publicity bit at all. Te'o was the #1 linebacker coming out of college, he'd been a very good NFL player, and he had plenty of NFL buzz last year. Notre Dame going 12-0 would've automatically boosted his profile anyways since he was the best player and leader of the defense.

It's not Manti who's the issue here. Like you pointed out above who the real central figure is... just gotta figure out his angle.
- Troll job? (any number of dudes at who put the lulz before anything else)
- Revenge plot? (Mhissy)
- Just bored and it was interesting to keep it going? (any number of women who use their daughter's high school photos to trawl horny men on adult dating sites)
- Money, gifts, notoriety and feeling loved/important? (the Total Farker who fled to Reddit)

A dude scamming another dude doesn't mean that the second dude is gay. Just means the second dude got duped. It was real to Manti, dammit. And yeah, this started out as Manti being duped and being completely innocent.

I hope he didn't run with it, though.


I don't really want to run to the whole gay angle yet either, but the thing that just doesn't look good for Manti was the ESPN interview when he said he talked to her everyday for four months straight until he falls asleep, only to wake up and find they had an eight hour call and he could hear her breathing on the other end. I mean, I could see the long con troll angle of this if they talked like once a week or something and it wasn't this intimate type relationship Te'o made it out to be in the media. But that's just way too much effort in trolling this guy with no end game (again, no extortion attempt claimed by the AD).

So at the very least for this to make sense as Te'o as the complete victim with no knowledge of this, Tuiasosopo had to hire or bring in a female to play Manti's girlfriend for 30-50 hours a week, he had to manage a cell phone to text other family members of the Te'o family along with Manti, and he had to bring in other people to play the different roles of brother and mother of the girl.

Additionally, Manti had to lie to his family in saying that he met her at a Stanford game and on visits to Hawaii when he alone would be there to greet her (in order to cover up falling for this girl online and seeming more normal?). But that already disputes some of the info that the Notre Dame AD said in his presser yesterday. He said Manti confirmed to him that they had met online sometime back in 2009, but that it was online.

My conspiracy theory take from it - Manti makes up a girlfriend his freshman year in college, gets people off his back (family, teammates, students) for whatever reason. Really easy to say your girlfriend is out of the state. The social media stuff is all for show with help from Tuiasosopo, and there's a third party girl involved to talk to teammates and keep the thing going for Te'o. Rides the whole thing through Notre Dame, pressure rises that the family has to meet her eventually (the family stated Senior Day was the initial plan), he knows he has to kill off the story. Car accident/Leukemia gets baked up. Manti has to play along in the media as the story starts spreading. In return for his help, Tuiasosopo gets support for his fledgling music career, and some cash and connections once Manti gets to the NFL.
 
2013-01-17 10:44:47 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: This is getting SO hilarious.

None of this changes the fact that Notre Dame covered up the story in December, whilst continuing to enjoy the resulting story line and associated jersey sales. Sanctions are a-comin'.


Maybe. Maybe not.

d3fjksicjrdxgn.cloudfront.net

/hot like JoePa's final resting place
 
2013-01-17 10:44:50 AM

wiwille: I can't understand why most of the media reporting on this is missing this obvious detail.


The answer is simple. Notre Dame has told the various outlets, including ESPN, that if they don't go along with their official explanation, they will cut them off from all access to the university and their students and employees. This is why Te'o is giving an interview today only to ESPN, so they can control the message and not open this up to general questioning
 
2013-01-17 10:45:09 AM

ha-ha-guy: FinFangFark: He's either a conman or just epically stupid.

That's the beauty of this. Te'o is:

1. The dumbest farking person on the planet (sup Notre Dame admission standards)
2. A soulless con man.
3. Covering up the fact he's gay.

I'm going with #3 considering how Samoan culture, Mormonism, the NFL, and the Catholic Church view homosexuality. Plus if that was the case, his boyfriend was a pastor.

/also if it is #3, Te'o has to be farked up in the head


Those were my same thoughts when I first heard about it too.

That and the story was probably fed from all the bullshiat human interest stuff they feel the need to now throw at us with all the game breaks. No Todd I really don't give a shiat about what you had for dinner last night or if Joe Paterno is older than scotch tape. Dumb as shiat sideline token female reporters asking a coach "So Coach your team is sucking out there. What do you think you'll do differently in the next half?" "Uh, not suck?" I now know more about a player's wife's cancer or eri son's autism than I know about his sacks for the year. STFU and just show us football please?
 
2013-01-17 10:45:18 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Moopy Mac:
You really want to believe.

Saw it happen in real time. More than one occasion. I'm always more likely to give the benefit of the doubt to the dupes, when shiat like this comes down the pike. Unlike others, I never find that shiat funny or say that the dupe deserved it.


Despite his comments about him meeting this person (along with all of the other evidence), you still want to believe. You have a good heart.
 
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