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(C|Net)   The low-cost iPhone that was coming this summer, then wasn't coming at all, never, not ever is now again coming this summer   (news.cnet.com) divider line 67
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2013-01-17 08:44:31 AM  
At this point Apple could buy up a ton of old clam shell phones, put their logo on it, and the phone would sell like hotcakes.
 
2013-01-17 08:47:39 AM  
Do we trust cnet to tell us honestly what is going to happen?
 
2013-01-17 08:51:15 AM  
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2013-01-17 08:53:53 AM  

BizarreMan: Do we trust cnet to tell us honestly what is going to happen?


That depends - does CNET, it's parent company, or any of the parent's other subsidiaries have an ongoing lawsuit with Apple?
 
2013-01-17 08:56:28 AM  

car_go_fast: does CNET, it's parent company, or any of the parent's other subsidiaries have an ongoing lawsuit with Apple


Being that it's Apple, I will go with... PROBABLY (rounded corners and such)
 
2013-01-17 08:58:27 AM  
It's an analyst saying this. That's no better than sheer speculation.
 
2013-01-17 08:59:41 AM  
Yes - but what does Apple consider "low-cost".

`This one only costs one limb (& the left testicle)!'
 
2013-01-17 09:19:19 AM  

skinink: At this point Apple could buy up a ton of old clam shell phones, put their logo on it, and the phone would sell like hotcakes.


Close enough for govenment work. ipoop
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2013-01-17 09:20:05 AM  
Isn't that the normal product cycle for iPhones? The new one comes out, so the old one becomes the cheap one? The 5s comes out, so the 5 becomes the low-cost version? Right now I can go get a nice, cheap 4s since the 5 came out recently.

Why would I want to buy an iPhone that's even cheaper (crappier) than just buying last year's model?
 
2013-01-17 09:20:53 AM  
I thought a low cost iPhone was a 50$ 3G from Craigslist.
 
2013-01-17 09:22:45 AM  

Enfenestrate: Why would I want to buy an iPhone that's even cheaper (crappier) than just buying last year's model?


Some people will buy it for no other reason than it is the "new" Apple product. Does not matter if it is crap, it's 'new' and its Apple.
 
2013-01-17 09:23:38 AM  

ModernLuddite: I thought a low cost iPhone was a 50$ 3G from Craigslist 4S with a contract from AT&T.



FTFY
 
2013-01-17 09:25:08 AM  
MIssing marine still beheaded or not beheaded?
 
2013-01-17 09:25:33 AM  
What does Apple consider "Cheap"

You can get a Iphone 4 for $0 on contract, an Phone 4S for $99.

The lol part is they still want to sell you an Iphone 4 for $450 off contract or a 4S for $550 off contract.

That's quite the racket they have going on over there.
 
2013-01-17 09:30:12 AM  
so they're going to release a warehouse full of refurbed 3gs?
 
2013-01-17 09:37:16 AM  
Get ready for your iphone 5 to be obsolete!!

You gotta love that since the phones get old so fast the older models tend to be found cheaper on craigslist than the newest ipod touch which typically has lower specs.

Then again why does the ipod touch still exist?
 
2013-01-17 09:40:40 AM  

styckx: What does Apple consider "Cheap"

You can get a Iphone 4 for $0 on contract, an Phone 4S for $99.

The lol part is they still want to sell you an Iphone 4 for $450 off contract or a 4S for $550 off contract.

That's quite the racket they have going on over there.


Yeah, this is why this doesn't make sense. How much different is a stripped down iPhone 5 going to be from a 4 or 4S?

On one hand this could be all about marketing -- people rather have the iPhone 5L than the 4 because the model number is one digit greater, but at the same time, I don't think Apple would want to dilute the brand by introducing a new product that is clearly inferior to existing ones.
 
2013-01-17 09:57:09 AM  

skinink: At this point Apple could buy up a ton of old clam shell phones, put their logo on it, and the phone would sell like hotcakes.


iRetro. I called it.
 
2013-01-17 09:57:53 AM  

Enfenestrate: Isn't that the normal product cycle for iPhones? The new one comes out, so the old one becomes the cheap one? The 5s comes out, so the 5 becomes the low-cost version? Right now I can go get a nice, cheap 4s since the 5 came out recently.

Why would I want to buy an iPhone that's even cheaper (crappier) than just buying last year's model?


www.legitreviews.com
 
2013-01-17 10:18:54 AM  

Enfenestrate: Isn't that the normal product cycle for iPhones? The new one comes out, so the old one becomes the cheap one? The 5s comes out, so the 5 becomes the low-cost version? Right now I can go get a nice, cheap 4s since the 5 came out recently.

Why would I want to buy an iPhone that's even cheaper (crappier) than just buying last year's model?


Robert Cringley has good insight into why and how it all comes back to the Chinese market: Link
 
2013-01-17 10:19:40 AM  

BizarreMan: Do we trust cnet to tell us honestly what is going to happen?


I see my work is already done.
 
2013-01-17 10:23:11 AM  

thisone: Enfenestrate: Isn't that the normal product cycle for iPhones? The new one comes out, so the old one becomes the cheap one? The 5s comes out, so the 5 becomes the low-cost version? Right now I can go get a nice, cheap 4s since the 5 came out recently.

Why would I want to buy an iPhone that's even cheaper (crappier) than just buying last year's model?

Robert Cringley has good insight into why and how it all comes back to the Chinese market: Link


It's a HUGE, HUGE market.
 
2013-01-17 10:33:21 AM  
I'm not sure how well it would sell, being that the whole point of owning an iPhone is so people know how much you spent on your phone. It wouldn't do to let people see you bought the cheap model.
 
2013-01-17 10:34:31 AM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: being that the whole point of owning an iPhone is so people know how much you spent on your phone


I know you're a troll, but really? Really.
 
2013-01-17 10:35:10 AM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: I'm not sure how well it would sell, being that the whole point of owning an iPhone is so people know how much you spent on your phone. It wouldn't do to let people see you bought the cheap model.


...because nobody who uses an Apple product actually bought it because they liked it.
 
2013-01-17 10:37:59 AM  

skinink: At this point Apple could buy up a ton of old clam shell phones, put their logo on it, and the phone would sell like hotcakes.


That's apparently not as true now as it once was. Steve Jobs legacy is fading. If they don't quit f*cking around soon, they'll lose their image and thus their market edge.
 
2013-01-17 10:38:39 AM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: I'm not sure how well it would sell, being that the whole point of owning an iPhone is so people know how much you spent on your phone. It wouldn't do to let people see you bought the cheap model.


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2013-01-17 10:45:39 AM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: I'm not sure how well it would sell, being that the whole point of owning an iPhone is so people know how much you spent on your phone. It wouldn't do to let people see you bought the cheap model.


When you see someone with an iPhone, how quickly can you tell which model they have? The "cheap" one will probably look just like the new one. In fact, that may be exactly what the "cheap" one is: last year's model in this year's case.

Of course, as people start to figure that out, simply owning an iPhone won't be enough anymore. People will have to put some new piece of flair on their phone to show that they spent more.
 
2013-01-17 10:48:29 AM  

jonny_q: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I'm not sure how well it would sell, being that the whole point of owning an iPhone is so people know how much you spent on your phone. It wouldn't do to let people see you bought the cheap model.

When you see someone with an iPhone, how quickly can you tell which model they have? The "cheap" one will probably look just like the new one. In fact, that may be exactly what the "cheap" one is: last year's model in this year's case.

Of course, as people start to figure that out, simply owning an iPhone won't be enough anymore. People will have to put some new piece of flair on their phone to show that they spent more.


Like an SLR lens

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-17 11:08:05 AM  

styckx: jonny_q: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I'm not sure how well it would sell, being that the whole point of owning an iPhone is so people know how much you spent on your phone. It wouldn't do to let people see you bought the cheap model.

When you see someone with an iPhone, how quickly can you tell which model they have? The "cheap" one will probably look just like the new one. In fact, that may be exactly what the "cheap" one is: last year's model in this year's case.

Of course, as people start to figure that out, simply owning an iPhone won't be enough anymore. People will have to put some new piece of flair on their phone to show that they spent more.

Like an SLR lens

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 600x317]


Many lulz were had.

Just needs a hollow body now.
 
2013-01-17 11:27:39 AM  

BizarreMan: Do we trust cnet to tell us honestly what is going to happen?


Short answer? No.

Long answer?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Journalistic integrity is something that is hard to gain, easily lost.
 
2013-01-17 11:30:05 AM  

RaverRevolution: Get ready for your iphone 5 to be obsolete!!

You gotta love that since the phones get old so fast the older models tend to be found cheaper on craigslist than the newest ipod touch which typically has lower specs.

Then again why does the ipod touch still exist?


Because there are people who just want a media player; the fact that it can do almost everything that an
iPhone can do except make phone calls is a bonus.  That's why I bought one; it really is an iPad Mini
(the 4G model is, anyway).
 
2013-01-17 11:46:54 AM  

Faps_in_the_kitchen: Enfenestrate: Why would I want to buy an iPhone that's even cheaper (crappier) than just buying last year's model?

Some people will buy it for no other reason than it is the "new" Apple product. Does not matter if it is crap, it's 'new' and its Apple.


The sad part is that you actually believe this.  Apple has shipped shiat products and people haven't bought them.  Why?  Because they are shiat products.

/but hating on something is easier than actually analyzing the market
 
2013-01-17 11:47:49 AM  

DjangoStonereaver:

Because there are people who just want a media player; the fact that it can do almost everything that an
iPhone can do except make phone calls is a bonus.


Exactly.
Daughter (10yo) has a tracfone for calls, Ipod Touch for everything else. With Skype and the apps store, she is all set without bankrupting me for an additional cell line just for data plan.
 
2013-01-17 12:20:29 PM  

RaverRevolution: Get ready for your iphone 5 to be obsolete!!

You gotta love that since the phones get old so fast the older models tend to be found cheaper on craigslist than the newest ipod touch which typically has lower specs.

Then again why does the ipod touch still exist?


pre-teens (for now) and morons
 
2013-01-17 12:45:45 PM  

moothemagiccow: RaverRevolution: Get ready for your iphone 5 to be obsolete!!

You gotta love that since the phones get old so fast the older models tend to be found cheaper on craigslist than the newest ipod touch which typically has lower specs.

Then again why does the ipod touch still exist?

pre-teens (for now) and morons


Or people who don't want to pay for the internet twice(or more for a family), but still like to take advantage of the ubiquity of wifi, and need a toilet diddling device.
Perhaps smartphone users, including me, are the morons.
 
2013-01-17 12:51:15 PM  

rthanu: ...and need a toilet diddling device.



stokereport.com
 
2013-01-17 01:10:45 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: Enfenestrate: Isn't that the normal product cycle for iPhones? The new one comes out, so the old one becomes the cheap one? The 5s comes out, so the 5 becomes the low-cost version? Right now I can go get a nice, cheap 4s since the 5 came out recently.

Why would I want to buy an iPhone that's even cheaper (crappier) than just buying last year's model?

[www.legitreviews.com image 550x482]


But but but the power savings!
 
2013-01-17 01:25:16 PM  
This had better not impact the market value of used iPhones.

The fact that you can sell a two year old used iPhone for $200+ is one of its best features.
 
2013-01-17 01:41:23 PM  
Sweet, now I can finally afford a phone with an interface that makes it look 6 years old.
 
2013-01-17 01:58:23 PM  
Walmart has already made apple their biatch because for the last two weeks through this Saturday Walmart has been selling iphone 5s for 127 bucks.

Apple has to come out with a lower cost iphone because last years Android models that do everything the I5 does are zero dollars.

Samsung Skyrocket  16 gigs, nfc, 4g, expandable memory, removable battery.   The only difference is proc speed, a few pixels, and a slightly newer bluetooth spec.   Apple was only playing catch up, and they did not do that good a job.
 
2013-01-17 02:13:26 PM  

theflatline: Walmart has already made apple their biatch because for the last two weeks through this Saturday Walmart has been selling iphone 5s for 127 bucks.

Apple has to come out with a lower cost iphone because last years Android models that do everything the I5 does are zero dollars.

Samsung Skyrocket  16 gigs, nfc, 4g, expandable memory, removable battery.   The only difference is proc speed, a few pixels, and a slightly newer bluetooth spec.   Apple was only playing catch up, and they did not do that good a job.


Now that's a fanboi.
 
2013-01-17 03:04:43 PM  

Enfenestrate: Isn't that the normal product cycle for iPhones? The new one comes out, so the old one becomes the cheap one? The 5s comes out, so the 5 becomes the low-cost version? Right now I can go get a nice, cheap 4s since the 5 came out recently.

Why would I want to buy an iPhone that's even cheaper (crappier) than just buying last year's model?


I think AT&T and Verizon is giving them grief about not having a cheaper LTE model. Both carriers have made a huge investment in LTE, and they can't leverage that investment by selling non-LTE iPhone 4 and 4S models to customers. Back in the day when they were the only popular smartphone in town, Apple could tell the carriers to go fark themselves, but when you have Android phones dominating the market and models like the Galaxy S3 rivaling the iPhone 5 for popularity, Apple suddenly has to play ball with the carriers again and give them the LTE phones that they want.
 
2013-01-17 03:08:16 PM  
Because of course the metal shell was the most expensive part of the phone...
 
2013-01-17 03:30:02 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Back in the day when they were the only popular smartphone in town


When was that?
 
2013-01-17 03:34:01 PM  
these headlines should be instared
 
2013-01-17 03:44:52 PM  
Sorry, CNet, you're done. Move along, nothing of trustworthy value here.
 
2013-01-17 04:33:57 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: Mad_Radhu: Back in the day when they were the only popular smartphone in town

When was that?


2007 to 2009. Before Verizon launched the Droid, there really weren't any smartphones outside of Blackberry/Sidekick that really got the public excited the way the iPhone did. Prior to the iPhone, it was pretty rare for non-business customers to pony up for a premium smartphone, plus a data and texting plan. The iPhone basically moved a big chunk of the non-techie public from cheap Razrs that were just used for phone calls into more profitable plans for the carriers, which is why AT&T wanted it so badly and Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint were all trying to come up with iPhone killers. You could probably even argue that it wasn't really until the release of the Galaxy S phones in mid-2010 that the iPhone really had credible competition, so AT&T and Apple pretty much had that lucrative market of new smartphone users to themselves until then.
 
2013-01-17 04:36:05 PM  
And the Droid wasn't launched until late 2009, so Apple/AT&T pretty much had that new, lucrative market almost to themselves for almost 2 and a half years.
 
2013-01-17 05:43:00 PM  
Had 3 iphones. Sold my 5 and picked up a galaxy 3 s. Bye apple.
 
2013-01-17 06:53:49 PM  

theflatline: Samsung Skyrocket  16 gigs, nfc, 4g, expandable memory, removable battery.   The only difference is proc speed, a few pixels, and a slightly newer bluetooth spec.   Apple was only playing catch up, and they did not do that good a job.


16 gigs - same as iPhone 5. And my 4s.

NFC - Wake me when there's a standard.

4g - same as iPhone 5

Expandable Memory: When you have cloud services, why do you need things on your phone?

Removable Battery: Yes, let's waste 20% of our possible battery space and remove the much more efficent power connection by wrapping it in plastic so Billy Bob can swap batteries once in a godsage.

Meanwhile, you downplay processor speed, vital, and screen pixel space, also important.
 
2013-01-17 07:49:37 PM  

Edgewood Dirk: Had 3 iphones. Sold my 5 and picked up a galaxy 3 s. Bye apple.


I don't use the word "hero" very often, but you are the greatest hero in American history.
 
2013-01-17 08:00:23 PM  
I have 5 Iphones on my family plan. They are ok. But WHY is there no call-blocking app? WTF? Since the days of my POS Blackberry I could block calls from any number I chose to add to my blacklist. Why, Apple, why?
 
2013-01-17 08:04:07 PM  

majestic: I have 5 Iphones on my family plan. They are ok. But WHY is there no call-blocking app? WTF? Since the days of my POS Blackberry I could block calls from any number I chose to add to my blacklist. Why, Apple, why?


I've got two words for you: Google Voice.
 
2013-01-17 08:26:48 PM  

elchip: Sweet, now I can finally afford a phone with an interface that makes it look 6 years old.


Because Microsoft turning the Windows interface into an all new steaming pile of crap has worked out so well for them?
 
2013-01-17 09:02:22 PM  

saintstryfe: theflatline: Samsung Skyrocket  16 gigs, nfc, 4g, expandable memory, removable battery.   The only difference is proc speed, a few pixels, and a slightly newer bluetooth spec.   Apple was only playing catch up, and they did not do that good a job.

16 gigs - same as iPhone 5. And my 4s.


Which you can add a 64 gig chip to for 60 bucks. For a total of 80 gigs, a 64 gig iphone adds a 200 dollar increment to the cost of the iphone.  So, the clear winner is the Skyrocket.

NFC - Wake me when there's a standard.

There are several standards, though some a bit fragmented, NFC is in use for payments in other countries and even in the US, and banks are getting into it.  No reason not to into the phone.   Oddly enough apple has been filing nfc patents for years, including one so homeland security can monitor you via a scanner.  But hey, why add it to a phone, so we can charge you to upgrade later.

4g - same as iPhone 5

A year after the fact.

Expandable Memory: When you have cloud services, why do you need things on your phone?

Until the cloud becomes affordable for the masses, and unlimited data returns, not unlimited capped, then it is nice to have things locally on the phone.  Plus, what if the network is down?  I remember in the late 1990s when companies were pushing APS(application service providers) and it is still not as reliable these days.   And remind me again if I am in a remote area, get no signal, or I need to pull a four gig file, how long is that gonna take?   Again also the premium apples places on memory...

Removable Battery: Yes, let's waste 20% of our possible battery space and remove the much more efficent power connection by wrapping it in plastic so Billy Bob can swap batteries once in a godsage.

Which explains the whole cottage industry of shops and websites that charge a premium to repair iphones, change batteries, when most other phones you can buy a replacement on Amazon for seven bucks, and not need a special tool, a suction cup and steady hands.

Meanwhile, you downplay processor speed, vital, and screen pixel space, also important.

Remember when apple users downplayed processor speed because the ppc was more efficient?  Well, things have become so quick these days a few extra megahertz does not matter.   Your angry birds will still run the same.

So the Skyrocket had a bigger screen, was 4g, cost less, and was almost on par with the iphone 5, a year before the five was released....
 
2013-01-17 09:26:57 PM  

MrEricSir: majestic: I have 5 Iphones on my family plan. They are ok. But WHY is there no call-blocking app? WTF? Since the days of my POS Blackberry I could block calls from any number I chose to add to my blacklist. Why, Apple, why?

I've got two words for you: Google Voice.


Yep, that's the same thing.
 
2013-01-17 09:40:18 PM  

majestic: MrEricSir: majestic: I have 5 Iphones on my family plan. They are ok. But WHY is there no call-blocking app? WTF? Since the days of my POS Blackberry I could block calls from any number I chose to add to my blacklist. Why, Apple, why?

I've got two words for you: Google Voice.

Yep, that's the same thing.


Actually it's better, because the call never even makes it to your phone -- so it won't interrupt internet access on CDMA networks. You can have unwanted numbers go straight to voicemail or reject with an invalid number message.

The spam filtering alone makes Google Voice worth it, though. Before I ported my number to Google I got about 2-3 bullshiat calls a day, now I get zero.
 
2013-01-17 10:44:10 PM  

styckx: What does Apple consider "Cheap"

You can get a Iphone 4 for $0 on contract, an Phone 4S for $99.

The lol part is they still want to sell you an Iphone 4 for $450 off contract or a 4S for $550 off contract.

That's quite the racket they have going on over there.


Why is that lol? Because you're bad at math (hint: it's much cheaper to do it off contract)?

Let's compare the same network (towers):

Sprint contract iphone 4s: $100 + $80/month x 24 months = $2020 over 2 years
Virgin prepaid iphone 4s: $450 + $40/month x 24 months = $1410 over 2 years

Did I mention you get about 3 times the minutes on the Virgin Mobile plan? Or that if you don't need that many you can drop it down to $30/month and save another $240? If you compare unlimited plans, the savings is $1090.
 
2013-01-17 10:58:15 PM  

saintstryfe:
Expandable Memory: When you have cloud services, why do you need things on your phone?


You have GOT to be trolling, right?

Unless you're with Sprint in an LTE area, the amount of data you can transfer over the cloud per month is negligible. How does 2-5GB a month compare to a 64GB (soon to be 128GB, then 256GB) card you can put in your phone? Well, it's the difference between being able to have 10% of my music or 100% of it available to my phone.

Congrats! You fell for Apple's marketing.
 
2013-01-17 11:05:04 PM  

Bisu: saintstryfe:
Expandable Memory: When you have cloud services, why do you need things on your phone?


You have GOT to be trolling, right?

Unless you're with Sprint in an LTE area, the amount of data you can transfer over the cloud per month is negligible. How does 2-5GB a month compare to a 64GB (soon to be 128GB, then 256GB) card you can put in your phone? Well, it's the difference between being able to have 10% of my music or 100% of it available to my phone.

Congrats! You fell for Apple's marketing.


Or, maybe, just maybe, he has different needs than you?
 
2013-01-17 11:11:30 PM  

LasersHurt: Bisu: saintstryfe:
Expandable Memory: When you have cloud services, why do you need things on your phone?


You have GOT to be trolling, right?

Unless you're with Sprint in an LTE area, the amount of data you can transfer over the cloud per month is negligible. How does 2-5GB a month compare to a 64GB (soon to be 128GB, then 256GB) card you can put in your phone? Well, it's the difference between being able to have 10% of my music or 100% of it available to my phone.

Congrats! You fell for Apple's marketing.

Or, maybe, just maybe, he has different needs than you?


He asked why we needed expandable memory if we have the cloud. I answered his question. What's confusing you?
 
2013-01-17 11:20:15 PM  

Bisu: LasersHurt: Bisu: saintstryfe:
Expandable Memory: When you have cloud services, why do you need things on your phone?


You have GOT to be trolling, right?

Unless you're with Sprint in an LTE area, the amount of data you can transfer over the cloud per month is negligible. How does 2-5GB a month compare to a 64GB (soon to be 128GB, then 256GB) card you can put in your phone? Well, it's the difference between being able to have 10% of my music or 100% of it available to my phone.

Congrats! You fell for Apple's marketing.

Or, maybe, just maybe, he has different needs than you?

He asked why we needed expandable memory if we have the cloud. I answered his question. What's confusing you?


The part where you get shirty about "falling for Apple's marketing" because the dude had a different opinion on something.
 
2013-01-18 08:45:23 AM  

LasersHurt: Bisu: LasersHurt: Bisu: saintstryfe:
Expandable Memory: When you have cloud services, why do you need things on your phone?


You have GOT to be trolling, right?

Unless you're with Sprint in an LTE area, the amount of data you can transfer over the cloud per month is negligible. How does 2-5GB a month compare to a 64GB (soon to be 128GB, then 256GB) card you can put in your phone? Well, it's the difference between being able to have 10% of my music or 100% of it available to my phone.

Congrats! You fell for Apple's marketing.

Or, maybe, just maybe, he has different needs than you?

He asked why we needed expandable memory if we have the cloud. I answered his question. What's confusing you?

The part where you get shirty about "falling for Apple's marketing" because the dude had a different opinion on something.


Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension. He didn't have a different opinion. He simply couldn't fathom why anyone would need anything other than the cloud, even though it's pretty obvious. That's exactly what Apple's marketing tries to convince you. Anyone who wasn't brainwashed by it would take the 3 seconds to think for themselves and realize it's completely obvious the cloud does very little to replace storage space. If the cloud solved storage for everyone, the iphone would only come in 1 size. 8 GB + 2GB/month > 96GB? If Apple said it, it MUST be true!

Logic > you

/reply if you want; I won't see
//poof!
 
2013-01-18 11:21:51 AM  

Mad_Radhu: StoPPeRmobile: Mad_Radhu: Back in the day when they were the only popular smartphone in town

When was that?

2007 to 2009. Before Verizon launched the Droid, there really weren't any smartphones outside of Blackberry/Sidekick that really got the public excited the way the iPhone did. Prior to the iPhone, it was pretty rare for non-business customers to pony up for a premium smartphone, plus a data and texting plan. The iPhone basically moved a big chunk of the non-techie public from cheap Razrs that were just used for phone calls into more profitable plans for the carriers, which is why AT&T wanted it so badly and Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint were all trying to come up with iPhone killers. You could probably even argue that it wasn't really until the release of the Galaxy S phones in mid-2010 that the iPhone really had credible competition, so AT&T and Apple pretty much had that lucrative market of new smartphone users to themselves until then.


You hit the nail on the head. I worked for VZW in that tine frame and every three months there was a new iPhone killer. They usually sucked it, hard. The Chocolate, Voyager, a couple of Palms, even a Samsung WinMo or two. I didn't have a retail job bit my office was in a retail building. It was something to see.
 
2013-01-18 03:11:07 PM  

MrEricSir: majestic: MrEricSir: majestic: I have 5 Iphones on my family plan. They are ok. But WHY is there no call-blocking app? WTF? Since the days of my POS Blackberry I could block calls from any number I chose to add to my blacklist. Why, Apple, why?

I've got two words for you: Google Voice.

Yep, that's the same thing.

Actually it's better, because the call never even makes it to your phone -- so it won't interrupt internet access on CDMA networks. You can have unwanted numbers go straight to voicemail or reject with an invalid number message.

The spam filtering alone makes Google Voice worth it, though. Before I ported my number to Google I got about 2-3 bullshiat calls a day, now I get zero.


Not available in my area.
 
2013-01-18 04:32:33 PM  

BullBearMS: Because Microsoft turning the Windows interface into an all new steaming pile of crap has worked out so well for them?


Sweet Jesus no, that's even worse.
 
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