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2013-01-16 09:19:02 PM  
7 votes:

The Asshole Guy: Dogs are not very loyal, at all. I could remove your so called loyal dog from your home, feed it, walk it, give it the same amount of attention as you do and it would simply forget about you. My daughter has a dog that belong to her Aunt for over 10 years. Now when that same Aunt comes to vist the dog wants nothing to do with her because she no longer cares for it.


Your name fits.
2013-01-16 08:39:42 PM  
7 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-01-16 08:51:23 PM  
3 votes:
ts2.mm.bing.net

govis93.files.wordpress.com
2013-01-16 08:48:14 PM  
3 votes:
Now if only we could find humans that were this loyal.
2013-01-17 12:53:21 AM  
2 votes:

The Asshole Guy: Confusean: The Asshole Guy: Dogs are not very loyal, at all. I could remove your so called loyal dog from your home, feed it, walk it, give it the same amount of attention as you do and it would simply forget about you. My daughter has a dog that belong to her Aunt for over 10 years. Now when that same Aunt comes to vist the dog wants nothing to do with her because she no longer cares for it.
You know, you really are an asshole or a troll. Just like people not all dogs are the same. When a really good person happens to get a really loyal dog, strong bonds will occur. I'm guessing your just an asshole that dogs and most people just don't like very much.

My daughters dog loves me. When I show up he will greet me and sit next to me on the couch but this so called strong bond can be broken, with ease, when it comes to dogs. You dog people just don't want to admit it. You want to think you have some sort of speical bond when you really don't. A dog is nothing but an animal that relies on you to take care of it and that is why it cares for you so much. It needs you to live but so many dog owners think their pet is some sort of human, it is not.


It's odd how much time you've spent in this thread trying to convince us how much dogs love you... You doin' okay?
2013-01-16 11:38:29 PM  
2 votes:

The Asshole Guy: DarkScarab the problem though is some people think their dogs are human, they are not. While dogs can do a lot of great things they still rely on us humans to take care of them and I stand by my word that I can take your loyal dog and make it just as loyal to me and make it forget about you in due time.


And people never forget about acquaintances they had after being separated for a long period of time? Your problem is you think of animals merely as things. Most self-centered assholish people do. What you fail to realize is that animals can feel emotions just as well as you can, though obviously they cannot describe them the same or even begin to comprehend such a concept. But they do remember things, and they will react fondly to things they like and negatively to things they don't. To think otherwise is just pure ignorance.
2013-01-16 10:07:52 PM  
2 votes:
The asshole guy: wrap your lips around a revolver and make this world a better place. Or, of you prefer, roll around in barbwire with Magic Johnson.
2013-01-16 10:00:42 PM  
2 votes:
farm9.staticflickr.com
2013-01-16 09:49:04 PM  
2 votes:

snowjack: No better place to find dog than in a church, I guess.



Dog spelled backwards is God.
2013-01-16 09:48:01 PM  
2 votes:

The Asshole Guy: Heist: The Asshole Guy: Dogs are not very loyal, at all. I could remove your so called loyal dog from your home, feed it, walk it, give it the same amount of attention as you do and it would simply forget about you. My daughter has a dog that belong to her Aunt for over 10 years. Now when that same Aunt comes to vist the dog wants nothing to do with her because she no longer cares for it.

When my grandfather used to visit us growing up, our family dog would latch on to him from the moment he pulled into the driveway until the moment he left (while completely ignoring grandma, ha!). They lived out of state, and would only visit about once a year, for a long weekend. Dogs do remember people, and they do care about people even when they haven't seen them for a long time.

Of course they remember people but that doesn't mean I cannot take a dog from an owner and make it just as loyal to me. My daughtes dog will ignore her at times to spend time with me because I also feed him, walk him, play with him and take him out to pee. He has even snapped at her more than once when she went to give me a hug. I know it is a huge insult for me to state I could take your loyal dog away and make it loyal to me but the bottom line is it is done all the time.


Okay on the off chance that you aren't trolling I have to tell you this:

Your dog might not like your daughter because of how she treats him. Most dogs do not like hugs. Dogs will politely *tolerate* being hugged by people the like. Some dogs will not tolerate any hugs. IF dogs could talk, they would say "hey dude I feel really uncomfortable when you hug me like you might strangle me so could you please just pat my chest instead! and stop patting my head!". I strongly encourage you to learn about dog body language and things that dogs don't like before your dog gets tired of being terrified and bites instead of snapping.

/I am sure that some dogs actually do like hugs. But most don't and would choose to receive your affection in another way.
2013-01-16 09:35:49 PM  
2 votes:
i.dailymail.co.uk

That picture makes me sad.

/who's a good boy?
//you're a good boy
2013-01-16 09:35:06 PM  
2 votes:

The Asshole Guy: Dogs are not very loyal, at all. I could remove your so called loyal dog from your home, feed it, walk it, give it the same amount of attention as you do and it would simply forget about you. My daughter has a dog that belong to her Aunt for over 10 years. Now when that same Aunt comes to vist the dog wants nothing to do with her because she no longer cares for it.


Yeah, that's exactly what's happening in those videos of dogs going batshiat with glee when their deployed humans come home after months/years/etc. 1/10, zzzzz.
2013-01-16 09:01:10 PM  
2 votes:

zzottt: Dwedit: [i.imgur.com image 640x480]

this article almost made me cry... then I saw ^^ and oh man did I almost lose it...

That episode of Futurama makes me cry EVERY TIME


seriously one of the best cartoon episodes ever...
2013-01-16 08:55:49 PM  
2 votes:
This is reason #2 why dogs are better than cats
2013-01-16 08:43:46 PM  
2 votes:
Fark you, subby. FARK. YOU.
And me too for reading that whole article.

/incoherent blubbering
//somebody give that dog a home
2013-01-17 10:44:45 AM  
1 vote:
I do volunteer work with a local rescue (siberian huskies mainly), a lot of training and companion stuff as well as fundraiser stuff, adoptions, yada, yada...

my favorite part is working with the dogs we keep at the shelters that volunteer space, and a while ago one of the volunteer families had outdoor kennels that I would visit everyday to work with the dogs, training and stuff. A few years ago, they being an elderly couple and looking for smaller house, stopped taking in dogs but there was a special case a dog named "Buck". He was brought in from W. Va, they named him buck because some a-hole shot him with buck shot. He had gotten an infection and needed surgery... it was right before christmas (christmas after pick of destiny came out) anyway the little guy could barely stand or hold his head up, and he became my charge - earlier this year a childhood friend of mine committed suicide (right before thanksgiving) it was a tough year. And though I dont pray often, I pledged myself to take care of this little dude, in this prayer. To the universe or whomever... he could barely stand, or hold his head up, but I came everyday for him. He got stronger and to the surprise of the people who were housing him and thought he would be permanently damaged, he got stronger, his energy picked up more everyday. By mid february we found a home for him near a park where he would have a companion, husky mix.

That was a while ago, we have an adoption reunion picnic every year and to this day he still comes to me happy... they know things, they remember. He is not the only dog that has shown me some appreciation well after my time with them has passed, but because of what I went through before him, he healed me as much as any help I gave him. Thanks Buck!
i237.photobucket.com
Top picture was after surgery around Dec 19th - Dudes happy face, greeting me at the gate was taken in March. The next image is him and his buddy...
i237.photobucket.com

I was lucky to have had a part in quite a few good dogs lives, and lucky to have them in mine as well.
2013-01-17 07:54:31 AM  
1 vote:
i49.tinypic.com
2013-01-17 04:20:18 AM  
1 vote:

The Asshole Guy: @ Lligeret

It is my daughters dog, not mine. It belonged to her Aunt for over 10 years and now said dog doesn't care at all when she shows up. Trust me, a dog is not as loyal to you as you think they are but telling that to a dog owner is pointless.



Well now this just turned pitiful.
I actually feel bad for you. Also of course the dog is not loyal to any of you three all you do is feed it. You do realize the dog looks down on you right?
Probably not and that is pitiful.


Also here is a very short list of people that would disagree with you:
-Anyone that has a service dog
-Anyone that has a guard dog
-Mushers (dog sledding)
-K9 units for both police and military
-Behavioral, social, and biological scientists
-Herders
-etc...
2013-01-17 03:18:09 AM  
1 vote:
Asshole guy:

Yeah and I'd fark your girlfriend if she wasn't so fat. What's your point? And lots of dogs are as loyal as owners claim; maybe your dog just recognizes that she has shiatty owners...
2013-01-17 02:18:54 AM  
1 vote:

The Asshole Guy: StrangeQ: The Asshole Guy: DarkScarab the problem though is some people think their dogs are human, they are not. While dogs can do a lot of great things they still rely on us humans to take care of them and I stand by my word that I can take your loyal dog and make it just as loyal to me and make it forget about you in due time.

And people never forget about acquaintances they had after being separated for a long period of time? Your problem is you think of animals merely as things. Most self-centered assholish people do. What you fail to realize is that animals can feel emotions just as well as you can, though obviously they cannot describe them the same or even begin to comprehend such a concept. But they do remember things, and they will react fondly to things they like and negatively to things they don't. To think otherwise is just pure ignorance.

Dogs are not humans as much as you want to think they are, they are not and you missed my point. My point is that I can take your dog that you think is 100% loyal to you and make it 100% loyal to me. It is done all the time, you are just scared to admit it.


Dogs aren't human? And you're using this as evidence that they can't truly be leal and grateful members of a loving home?

The fact that they aren't human is evidence of their ability to be loyal. How many truly honest people do YOU know? (my over/under for you is like 2.5). I hold no illusion that I am special but my dog, when being walked to meet me with the spouse recognizes me from a block away. If we leave her for 5 minutes alone it's the same reception as when it's 10 hours.

Could she love others if removed from our lives? Of course, she's a loving creature. But it would never erase us from her memory. Guess we just treat her better than the dog(s) you cite as evidence
2013-01-17 01:32:29 AM  
1 vote:

The Asshole Guy: duppy: The Asshole Guy: Dogs are not very loyal, at all. I could remove your so called loyal dog from your home, feed it, walk it, give it the same amount of attention as you do and it would simply forget about you. My daughter has a dog that belong to her Aunt for over 10 years. Now when that same Aunt comes to vist the dog wants nothing to do with her because she no longer cares for it.

Yeah, that's exactly what's happening in those videos of dogs going batshiat with glee when their deployed humans come home after months/years/etc. 1/10, zzzzz.

First, not trolling. Just telling you the truth. I know dog owners hate to read that their loyal dog could be taken away and made to be loyal to someone else. You are talking about a dog that has not left the home and has not been introduced to a new environment. My daughters dog when she first brought it home would bang his head against the basement door at night because it had learned that is where it sleeps at night, it no longer does this. It also had a lot of accidents in the house because it was in a new enviornment. It no longer does any of those things.

Keep thinking your dog is 100% loyal to you but the truth is, it is not. Dogs are given new homes all the time and become just as loyal, if not more loyal to their new owners. Some dogs will become your best friend simply if you pet them. I know, how dare I insult a dog but they are just pets and nothing more.


Oh you are TOTALLY trolling. There is NO other reason to come into a thread like this to post something like that truth or no. You get off on being the asshole guy and that IS trolling.
2013-01-17 12:10:28 AM  
1 vote:
I had a coworker who I respected in many ways; he was well educated and probably a couple decades older. However, we had one argument that defined a difference between us. His stance was always that "they're just dogs/cats", and minimized stories of their poor treatment and death.

He would say things like "it's not like the death of a human".

I think at the time I brought up Mark Twain's writing about a cat's moral superiority to man.
Eventually, I shortened the argument to 'animals are one of the things that allow us to be human'. It's our job to protect and take care of them.

When pets demonstrate in a heart wrenching way, the bond they form with us, it gets pretty dusty in my house.
2013-01-16 11:55:04 PM  
1 vote:
i304.photobucket.com

Sometimes I think we don't deserve dogs.
2013-01-16 11:32:50 PM  
1 vote:

The Asshole Guy: @ Lligeret

It is my daughters dog, not mine. It belonged to her Aunt for over 10 years and now said dog doesn't care at all when she shows up. Trust me, a dog is not as loyal to you as you think they are but telling that to a dog owner is pointless.


You know nothing about a GSD. Absolutely clueless.
2013-01-16 11:24:19 PM  
1 vote:

The Asshole Guy: DarkScarab the problem though is some people think their dogs are human, they are not. While dogs can do a lot of great things they still rely on us humans to take care of them and I stand by my word that I can take your loyal dog and make it just as loyal to me and make it forget about you in due time.


No. Stop thinking in absolutes. I'm not going to attack you as others have done. But I've seen it. Some dogs just connect with certain people and won't get that connection with another person again. No, they're not human but, they do have emotions. And some, some, are loyal to thier humans. Percentages? I have no idea. How many humans are loyal to their "masters"?
2013-01-16 11:07:46 PM  
1 vote:

ZuZu: The Asshole Guy: Heist: The Asshole Guy: Dogs are not very loyal, at all. I could remove your so called loyal dog from your home, feed it, walk it, give it the same amount of attention as you do and it would simply forget about you. My daughter has a dog that belong to her Aunt for over 10 years. Now when that same Aunt comes to vist the dog wants nothing to do with her because she no longer cares for it.

When my grandfather used to visit us growing up, our family dog would latch on to him from the moment he pulled into the driveway until the moment he left (while completely ignoring grandma, ha!). They lived out of state, and would only visit about once a year, for a long weekend. Dogs do remember people, and they do care about people even when they haven't seen them for a long time.

Of course they remember people but that doesn't mean I cannot take a dog from an owner and make it just as loyal to me. My daughtes dog will ignore her at times to spend time with me because I also feed him, walk him, play with him and take him out to pee. He has even snapped at her more than once when she went to give me a hug. I know it is a huge insult for me to state I could take your loyal dog away and make it loyal to me but the bottom line is it is done all the time.

Sounds more like your dog doesn't like your kid that much and wishes s/he was still with their old owner.


Someone else besides me figured this out. A dog knows when its new owner (your daughter in this case) is a lousy pet owner. Since the aunt is no longer in the picture you are the next best alternative. Don't flatter yourself.
2013-01-16 11:05:01 PM  
1 vote:

The Asshole Guy: Heist: The Asshole Guy: Dogs are not very loyal, at all. I could remove your so called loyal dog from your home, feed it, walk it, give it the same amount of attention as you do and it would simply forget about you. My daughter has a dog that belong to her Aunt for over 10 years. Now when that same Aunt comes to vist the dog wants nothing to do with her because she no longer cares for it.

When my grandfather used to visit us growing up, our family dog would latch on to him from the moment he pulled into the driveway until the moment he left (while completely ignoring grandma, ha!). They lived out of state, and would only visit about once a year, for a long weekend. Dogs do remember people, and they do care about people even when they haven't seen them for a long time.

Of course they remember people but that doesn't mean I cannot take a dog from an owner and make it just as loyal to me. My daughtes dog will ignore her at times to spend time with me because I also feed him, walk him, play with him and take him out to pee. He has even snapped at her more than once when she went to give me a hug. I know it is a huge insult for me to state I could take your loyal dog away and make it loyal to me but the bottom line is it is done all the time.


Dog psychology, pack structure matters. Whomever is on the top, that is who they follow - in the Grandfather example, in daily life the Dad is in charge, but dad defers to Grandpa and the dog picks up on that, so Grandpa is pack leader when he is around.

Also, Alpha controls the food supply, so whomever feeds the dog is often considered on top - literally, of the food chain. Alphas also tend to be female, believe it or not.

In your example with your Aunt's old dog, the dog seems to see itself on equal footing with your daughter in the hierarchy, and needs to be corrected so that it understands its place. As for its loyalty tot he Aunt, she might have fed it out of a bin or automatic feeder, or otherwise was not personally controlling the food supply, so the dog may never have accepted her as Alpha. There can be other circumstances too, but food and discipline are the strongest.
2013-01-16 10:52:02 PM  
1 vote:

The Asshole Guy: Heist: The Asshole Guy: Dogs are not very loyal, at all. I could remove your so called loyal dog from your home, feed it, walk it, give it the same amount of attention as you do and it would simply forget about you. My daughter has a dog that belong to her Aunt for over 10 years. Now when that same Aunt comes to vist the dog wants nothing to do with her because she no longer cares for it.

When my grandfather used to visit us growing up, our family dog would latch on to him from the moment he pulled into the driveway until the moment he left (while completely ignoring grandma, ha!). They lived out of state, and would only visit about once a year, for a long weekend. Dogs do remember people, and they do care about people even when they haven't seen them for a long time.

Of course they remember people but that doesn't mean I cannot take a dog from an owner and make it just as loyal to me. My daughtes dog will ignore her at times to spend time with me because I also feed him, walk him, play with him and take him out to pee. He has even snapped at her more than once when she went to give me a hug. I know it is a huge insult for me to state I could take your loyal dog away and make it loyal to me but the bottom line is it is done all the time.


Sounds more like your dog doesn't like your kid that much and wishes s/he was still with their old owner.
2013-01-16 10:32:14 PM  
1 vote:

The Asshole Guy: Dogs are not very loyal, at all. I could remove your so called loyal dog from your home, feed it, walk it, give it the same amount of attention as you do and it would simply forget about you. My daughter has a dog that belong to her Aunt for over 10 years. Now when that same Aunt comes to vist the dog wants nothing to do with her because she no longer cares for it.

You know, you really are an asshole or a troll. Just like people not all dogs are the same. When a really good person happens to get a really loyal dog, strong bonds will occur. I'm guessing your just an asshole that dogs and most people just don't like very much.
2013-01-16 10:16:13 PM  
1 vote:

The Asshole Guy: Heist: The Asshole Guy: Dogs are not very loyal, at all. I could remove your so called loyal dog from your home, feed it, walk it, give it the same amount of attention as you do and it would simply forget about you. My daughter has a dog that belong to her Aunt for over 10 years. Now when that same Aunt comes to vist the dog wants nothing to do with her because she no longer cares for it.

When my grandfather used to visit us growing up, our family dog would latch on to him from the moment he pulled into the driveway until the moment he left (while completely ignoring grandma, ha!). They lived out of state, and would only visit about once a year, for a long weekend. Dogs do remember people, and they do care about people even when they haven't seen them for a long time.

Of course they remember people but that doesn't mean I cannot take a dog from an owner and make it just as loyal to me. My daughtes dog will ignore her at times to spend time with me because I also feed him, walk him, play with him and take him out to pee. He has even snapped at her more than once when she went to give me a hug. I know it is a huge insult for me to state I could take your loyal dog away and make it loyal to me but the bottom line is it is done all the time.



Ahhh now I get it you latched the dogs loyalty based on possession. I got news for you that dog is not your daughters dog. You are that dogs person. Lets say your daughter is of the age where she moves out and she takes the dog with you. Your daughter will care for it because you are not there anymore. After a while sure the dog is likely to have a connection with the daughter at that point. But if you and your daughter were put into the same room with the dog I will put my money on the dog going to you.

You assume the dog is your daughters because either she got it for herself or you got it for her. You ignore that non-humans have emotions as well.


http://mentalfloss.com/article/23234/late-movies-dogs-welcoming-home- s oldiers

Here are what dogs look like when the person they are loyal to returns home. Some of these dogs may not be "their dog" by your standards, but the dog doesn't give a shiat who owns them on paper.


You can befriend a dog, just like you can befriend a human, that does not mean you are the person they care about the most though. Not saying it is impossible to take the loyalty of a dog away it is always possible, your best friend has changed over the years probably but not frequently, it is the same with dogs. YOUR dog could care less if your daughter never came home, YOUR dog would miss you if you never came home though.
2013-01-16 10:10:12 PM  
1 vote:

The Asshole Guy: spidermilk: The Asshole Guy: Heist: The Asshole Guy: Dogs are not very loyal, at all. I could remove your so called loyal dog from your home, feed it, walk it, give it the same amount of attention as you do and it would simply forget about you. My daughter has a dog that belong to her Aunt for over 10 years. Now when that same Aunt comes to vist the dog wants nothing to do with her because she no longer cares for it.

When my grandfather used to visit us growing up, our family dog would latch on to him from the moment he pulled into the driveway until the moment he left (while completely ignoring grandma, ha!). They lived out of state, and would only visit about once a year, for a long weekend. Dogs do remember people, and they do care about people even when they haven't seen them for a long time.

Of course they remember people but that doesn't mean I cannot take a dog from an owner and make it just as loyal to me. My daughtes dog will ignore her at times to spend time with me because I also feed him, walk him, play with him and take him out to pee. He has even snapped at her more than once when she went to give me a hug. I know it is a huge insult for me to state I could take your loyal dog away and make it loyal to me but the bottom line is it is done all the time.

Okay on the off chance that you aren't trolling I have to tell you this:

Your dog might not like your daughter because of how she treats him. Most dogs do not like hugs. Dogs will politely *tolerate* being hugged by people the like. Some dogs will not tolerate any hugs. IF dogs could talk, they would say "hey dude I feel really uncomfortable when you hug me like you might strangle me so could you please just pat my chest instead! and stop patting my head!". I strongly encourage you to learn about dog body language and things that dogs don't like before your dog gets tired of being terrified and bites instead of snapping.

/I am sure that some dogs actually do like hugs. But most don't and would choos ...


Dogs have different personalities, just like people. Some are loyal, some are not. Some have loyalty to food, some have loyalty to love. And some are loyal to one person. Kind of like people. Found that out when my son was almost killed. Some, not all, dogs are VERY loyal to thier owners. Personalities, you know, like people, they have them.
2013-01-16 09:57:51 PM  
1 vote:
The lord is my shepherd...
2013-01-16 09:48:31 PM  
1 vote:

santadog: [imageshack.us image 480x640]
 My boy.


Your dog has a smile. Awesome. Doglike. Smile. Detected.
2013-01-16 09:27:31 PM  
1 vote:

AverageAmericanGuy: 'Abandoned by owner, dumb dog dies without ever figuring it out.' - Futurama: Jurassic Bark


Stop. Just stop. I mean, trolling a dog thread? Go see a shrink, now. Or when your local shrink opens.
2013-01-16 09:25:36 PM  
1 vote:

The Asshole Guy: Dogs are not very loyal, at all. I could remove your so called loyal dog from your home, feed it, walk it, give it the same amount of attention as you do and it would simply forget about you. My daughter has a dog that belong to her Aunt for over 10 years. Now when that same Aunt comes to vist the dog wants nothing to do with her because she no longer cares for it.


When my grandfather used to visit us growing up, our family dog would latch on to him from the moment he pulled into the driveway until the moment he left (while completely ignoring grandma, ha!). They lived out of state, and would only visit about once a year, for a long weekend. Dogs do remember people, and they do care about people even when they haven't seen them for a long time.
2013-01-16 09:12:20 PM  
1 vote:
Damn you, subs. A month ago, I buried my 13 yr old Shep.
Yes, he followed me around like a toddler and life was better for it.

Dusty? There's a got dam sandstorm in here.
2013-01-16 09:02:27 PM  
1 vote:
Also, if you guys ever want to read about how dogs experience emotion then read "For the Love of a Dog" by Patricia McConnell (PhD Zoology). Seriously good read...

i37.photobucket.com

Loyal and adorable!

i37.photobucket.com
2013-01-16 08:43:57 PM  
1 vote:
Okay this is terribly sad, but I have a German Shepherd and this dog would return to the same place every day for a chicken foot.

(Seriously though, never get a German Shepherd if you don't like the idea of a 70-90 lb dog following you everywhere you go, including the bathroom, he makes sure to lay down behind my feet while I'm cooking and if I leave him in the backyard for 5 minutes to go to the bathroom he is just sitting at the door staring in when I return.)
2013-01-16 08:42:05 PM  
1 vote:
I WAITED FOR YOU, FRY.
 
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