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(Time)   How Dr. Dre convinced the world that you need $300 headphones to listen to your highly compressed MP3s   (business.time.com) divider line 260
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2013-01-17 12:21:42 AM
I have crappy ears, and haven't ever been able to keep a pair of headphones alive for more than 6 months. So the $9 Cheapo heaphones work for me.

Worst purchase ever was a pair of Klipsch earbuds. They sounded amazing to my tin ears, but the jack broke (as every headphone I've ever had has done), within weeks. $150 down the drain. What a terrible birthday present.

My girlfriend has been bugging me for a pair of Beats for a couple years now. Whenever I go gift shopping, I do look at the display, and then laugh to myself for considering spending so much.
 
2013-01-17 12:24:12 AM

rocky_howard: And it's all a sham.

These will blow the hell out of any of the Dre abortions, but more power to him for finding fools to get richer:
(click on the image for more details)

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 333x500]


I give you: the ATH M50-R. Same headphones, but with a removable cord so you're replacing a $10 cord instead of a $150 pair of headphones when the cord breaks 6 months from now.

/Had Seinheisser 280 Pros. And then the cord broke in about a year and a half (and they had 0 bass).
//Then had Audio-Technica A-900's. And the cord broke in 3 months. And I sent them in for repair, got them back, and then the cord broke again a month later.
///And now I have these.
 
2013-01-17 12:26:10 AM

meyerkev: rocky_howard: And it's all a sham.

These will blow the hell out of any of the Dre abortions, but more power to him for finding fools to get richer:
(click on the image for more details)

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 333x500]

I give you: the ATH M50-R. Same headphones, but with a removable cord so you're replacing a $10 cord instead of a $150 pair of headphones when the cord breaks 6 months from now.

/Had Seinheisser 280 Pros. And then the cord broke in about a year and a half (and they had 0 bass).
//Then had Audio-Technica A-900's. And the cord broke in 3 months. And I sent them in for repair, got them back, and then the cord broke again a month later.
///And now I have these.


Of course, you could have spent less money overall on a higher end Sennheiser(500 series or better) and had better headphone with a replaceable cord, too.
 
2013-01-17 12:28:35 AM
Doesn't matter to me.

Too many years of sticking my head near a 100W stack has blown out a lot of my fine hearing.

/ yes, I'm a dumbass who didn't use earplugs.
// I was a teen and therefore invincible.
 
2013-01-17 12:34:22 AM

bhcompy: meyerkev: rocky_howard: And it's all a sham.

These will blow the hell out of any of the Dre abortions, but more power to him for finding fools to get richer:
(click on the image for more details)

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 333x500]

I give you: the ATH M50-R. Same headphones, but with a removable cord so you're replacing a $10 cord instead of a $150 pair of headphones when the cord breaks 6 months from now.

/Had Seinheisser 280 Pros. And then the cord broke in about a year and a half (and they had 0 bass).
//Then had Audio-Technica A-900's. And the cord broke in 3 months. And I sent them in for repair, got them back, and then the cord broke again a month later.
///And now I have these.

Of course, you could have spent less money overall on a higher end Sennheiser(500 series or better) and had better headphone with a replaceable cord, too.


Question: Do the higher end headphones have closed backs? Because I use these at work and in a shared apartment, and I remember the high-end Sennheiser's all being open-back.
 
2013-01-17 12:44:25 AM
Silly subby! Dr. Dre (not a real doctor) convinced the world of nothing. He conned a given amount of people - those who are ignorant consumers, to purchase his over-priced wares. The bulk of these consumers are youthful inner city types with lots of untaxed unreported illegally gained income. They will gladly buy any fashion or item that a person of their race advertises. Shame on these piss poor role models that shyster their own people with inferior goods for their personal monetary gain. It ain't just whitey out to get you, bro.
 
2013-01-17 12:44:56 AM

meyerkev:

Question: Do the higher end headphones have closed backs? Because I use these at work and in a shared apartment, and I remember the high-end Sennheiser's all being open-back.


There are high end headphones with both open and closed backs. Headroom has a section for just closed headphones:

Closed Headphones
 
2013-01-17 12:45:49 AM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: They're also twice the price. I don't need $250 headphones.

As I said, for $100 they're keen.


yeah, my 280s broke, so it's the only reason I got the 598s.
 
2013-01-17 12:49:49 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: Sony makes ear sofas that deliver nearly as much bass for a lot less.



They do break up before I reach the volume I like though, but it seems people enjoy listening to noise these days.


I don't have that model, but my Sony noise canceling headphones are pretty good. IIRC, I paid $55 or so.
 
2013-01-17 12:50:38 AM

KrispyKritter: Silly subby! Dr. Dre (not a real doctor) convinced the world of nothing. He conned a given amount of people - those who are ignorant consumers, to purchase his over-priced wares. The bulk of these consumers are youthful inner city types with lots of untaxed unreported illegally gained income. They will gladly buy any fashion or item that a person of their race advertises. Shame on these piss poor role models that shyster their own people with inferior goods for their personal monetary gain. It ain't just whitey out to get you, bro.


I can't tell if this is poeslaw or not.

I guess 4/10 for racism, you'll probably get a few bites.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-17 12:51:04 AM

GreenAdder: Before he sold headphones, what was he a doctor of? Who is this guy?


He was the fat guy on Yo MTV Raps.
 
2013-01-17 12:51:49 AM
Forget the gun porn, we now have headphone porn.
 
2013-01-17 01:06:14 AM
i236.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-17 01:08:50 AM
All music is compressed to some degree, even music stamped onto vinyl, unless you can afford to hire a band to follow you around and play whenever you feel like music.

That said: I thought $279 for a set of headphones was idiotic, until I borrowed my father's for a plane trip. Bought them within a half-hour of landing. Yeah, it's a luxury item, and one I'd survive just fine without, but dammit if the music didn't sound better, not to mention it drowned out the sound of that jerkoff businessman behind me talking about how well he's doing despite the fact that he's sitting in coach.
 
2013-01-17 01:09:53 AM
Three hundred on Dr. Dre headphones? Nah, but $250 or so for some Sony MDR 7506's is the last pair of cans you'll ever need to buy.
 
2013-01-17 01:10:34 AM
Dre is not doing anything new. Skullcandy convinced people of the same dreck, using crappy little drivers in their headphones and selling at a markup. Just like the Monster cables that came before, their priduct actually sucks balls, but they are selling a brand on cognitive dissonance. People will buy them, and rather than admitting they got duped out of three hundred bucks, they will staunchly defend it so that they don't look like an absolute fool for being duped.
 
2013-01-17 01:12:27 AM
AKG 240 600 ohm..
 
2013-01-17 01:12:54 AM
I've tested so many brands and models that I couldn't even list them.

What I found was that most high priced headphones/earphones are simply overpriced and many actually sound worse or equal to some that are easily 1/6 of their prices.

The most annoying thing is the person that buys these expensive ones, have to justify themselves like their lives depended on it.

One person raved on about his >300$ Skull Candy headphones... I found them to be worse than my 40$ JVC pair that had been my go-to at the time, but then again, those JVCs (HA-B25) were a very limited run, are quite rare and set the bar very high as they were extremely good. The wiring has worn down and I've had to re-solder them in part, but they have been one of the best headphones I've ever had.

I have a few Creative Labs, Sennheiser, Razor, etc. but lately, I've been going with wireless more and more as once you try wireless for a while, getting caught on wires is a pain, plus with some decent Bluetooth ones, the quick controls (skip, volume, etc.) makes them even better.

I went ahead with getting the kids some very simple BT headphones from "The Source" that were on special for 20$, and they actually surprised me quite a bit for the sound quality. The kids that "love" their wired earphones, have all started using them and are quite enjoying them, leaving the wired pairs behind more and more. And for 20$, can't really lose at that price if the kids break or lose them.

For me, I've been using the Creative WP-250, and while tricky to put on, they're not bad at all.

All I know is that wired headphones are not something that I like using much anymore.

And as for as the Beats, the only person I know that has a pair is an Apple fanboy that woreships his Apple gear, for this guy his belief in his selection of gadgets and such is an pompous as can be, so his Beats are the best thing ever, and nothing would convince him otherwise. Funny thing is, he whines about the prices and usefulness of just about everything (else).
 
2013-01-17 01:24:19 AM

imfallen_angel: I've tested so many brands and models that I couldn't even list them.

What I found was that most high priced headphones/earphones are simply overpriced and many actually sound worse or equal to some that are easily 1/6 of their prices.

The most annoying thing is the person that buys these expensive ones, have to justify themselves like their lives depended on it.

One person raved on about his >300$ Skull Candy headphones... I found them to be worse than my 40$ JVC pair that had been my go-to at the time, but then again, those JVCs (HA-B25) were a very limited run, are quite rare and set the bar very high as they were extremely good. The wiring has worn down and I've had to re-solder them in part, but they have been one of the best headphones I've ever had.

I have a few Creative Labs, Sennheiser, Razor, etc. but lately, I've been going with wireless more and more as once you try wireless for a while, getting caught on wires is a pain, plus with some decent Bluetooth ones, the quick controls (skip, volume, etc.) makes them even better.

I went ahead with getting the kids some very simple BT headphones from "The Source" that were on special for 20$, and they actually surprised me quite a bit for the sound quality. The kids that "love" their wired earphones, have all started using them and are quite enjoying them, leaving the wired pairs behind more and more. And for 20$, can't really lose at that price if the kids break or lose them.

For me, I've been using the Creative WP-250, and while tricky to put on, they're not bad at all.

All I know is that wired headphones are not something that I like using much anymore.

And as for as the Beats, the only person I know that has a pair is an Apple fanboy that woreships his Apple gear, for this guy his belief in his selection of gadgets and such is an pompous as can be, so his Beats are the best thing ever, and nothing would convince him otherwise. Funny thing is, he whines about the prices and usefulness of just ab ...


Now Skullcandy is complete crap. Had the misfortune of forgetting my headphones at home while going on a trip, and the only headphones I could find in the terminal were Skullcandy. Worst earbuds EVER. Something like $40 for them.

Actually, my favorite earbuds are (I'm almost ashamed to admit it) Brookstone. $40 pair, self-retracting, and a pretty decent tone. I like them for when I don't feel like looking like a pompous jerk with my giant-ass Beats Wireless headphones.
 
2013-01-17 01:46:34 AM
Bose been doing this for years
/Nothing new
 
2013-01-17 01:54:42 AM

OnlyM3: obama need to gib me gubment helf care cause I can't afford to go to da doctor cause I dun bought dees head phones.


Yes because the majority of people who buy these are black, moron. And fark if I can't stand when racist white people try to imitate ebonics because they can't do it right and wind up sounding more idiotic than ebonics is in the first place.
 
2013-01-17 02:09:19 AM
I'm an audiophile noob, but I can tell when an audio file is compressed comparing it to a .flac (end result of parents taking you to the symphony every month as a kid).
I got my first pair of non-default headphones last winter, Shure SE115s, for about $60. I'd like to get another pair; does anyone have suggestions for earbuds in a similar price range?

Got a Zune back when iPods didn't do lossless. For some reason, my uncompressed files still sound better played back on my computer with the same earbuds. Is the reason the hardware, or some physical thing (walking/standing/sitting)?
 
2013-01-17 02:09:36 AM

PirateKing: KrispyKritter: Silly subby! Dr. Dre (not a real doctor) convinced the world of nothing. He conned a given amount of people - those who are ignorant consumers, to purchase his over-priced wares. The bulk of these consumers are youthful inner city types with lots of untaxed unreported illegally gained income. They will gladly buy any fashion or item that a person of their race advertises. Shame on these piss poor role models that shyster their own people with inferior goods for their personal monetary gain. It ain't just whitey out to get you, bro.

I can't tell if this is poeslaw or not.

I guess 4/10 for racism, you'll probably get a few bites.

[i.imgur.com image 300x268]


I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt that he's not that stupid. The majority of people who buy those things are white, just as the majority of people who purchase rap music.
 
2013-01-17 02:12:09 AM

Lsherm: Luminiferous Aether: For those of you that have headphones that can truly benefit from it, I highly suggest getting an amplifier.

The hippy that writes for CNET's audio column is always going on about headphone amplifiers.  Of course, he's also always going on about turntables, too.  He gives the distinct impression that if reel to reel tapes were still manufactured, he'd review those, too.  He repeatedly uses words like: warmth, lively, responsive, subtle, lows, highs, and natural.


I smoke a lot of weed and try to recycle when I can, but I'd hardly call myself a hippy. Not that I'm saying you were calling me a hippy though. I'd love a turntable setup if I had the space for one, but the words said hippy uses are very frequent when talking about/reviewing any audio components.

Point is, I know I don't have the greatest or fanciest amp/DAC combo, but those pieces of equipment allowed my cans to truly open up. So what I'm saying is that anyone with high-impedance, high-quality cans that are currently just jacking straight off of their motherboard soundcard can really upgrade by getting a decent USB amp/DAC combo. Of course, this may end up costing as much or more than the cans you paid for in the first place, but if you paid that much for cans you can't adequately drive or enjoy, you were wasting your money to begin with. Waste a little more, and truly wake your music up!
 
2013-01-17 02:20:51 AM

bhcompy: [www.productwiki.com image 425x555]

Best $300 I ever spent. Mine are about 16 years old. And Sennheiser still repairs/replaces any piece under repair service for about $60(flat fee for service, regardless of work), but I haven't had to do that because the drivers are still good and the frame isn't weak(like some of the Beats headphones that break on the ear swivel joints).


Sennheiser has excellent service. I was restoring 2 pairs of 414s, which haven't been made since the 70s, and are now collectors items, and they sent me original parts for them cheap.
They looked and functioned like brand new when I was finished.
 
2013-01-17 02:28:58 AM
"If you're wearing a pair of Beats, it says, "I am very stupid with money says Gordon Bennett.

Mind you, I may not be the right one to speak. Most of what I listen to are comedies from Radio 4 and the occasional podcast. All spoken word, all perfectly listenable through a pair of £20 full-size over the ear headphones. Also, I really do not feel the need to impress people by showing off the things I have purchased.
 
2013-01-17 02:32:09 AM
These are the ones I use:
i50.tinypic.com
Very nice sound quality. Used them for years without knowing that they were basically the best headphones money could buy when they were released. They belong to my dad. He got them from my uncle, who bought them for $300 in Japan on a tour of duty while he was in the Air Force in the 1970s. I've been a lot more careful with them since learning their true nature.
 
2013-01-17 02:37:03 AM
Beats are designed to be great headphones for hip-hop music, and they are. For hip-hop. I'm not really a fan of any type of headphones with only a certain type of mixing in mind, so I don't think motorheadphones are really going to be much better unless you are only listening to rock/metal. Got a pair of V-moda crossfades. Good purchase.

Also audio compression has been around for a long time, to think you listened to uncompressed music "back in the day" is just foolish. For a good sounding record, you need a certain amount of compression.

Which isn't to say people don't overuse compression these days. They do.
 
2013-01-17 02:46:49 AM

Luminiferous Aether: Lsherm: Luminiferous Aether: For those of you that have headphones that can truly benefit from it, I highly suggest getting an amplifier.

The hippy that writes for CNET's audio column is always going on about headphone amplifiers.  Of course, he's also always going on about turntables, too.  He gives the distinct impression that if reel to reel tapes were still manufactured, he'd review those, too.  He repeatedly uses words like: warmth, lively, responsive, subtle, lows, highs, and natural.

I smoke a lot of weed and try to recycle when I can, but I'd hardly call myself a hippy. Not that I'm saying you were calling me a hippy though. I'd love a turntable setup if I had the space for one, but the words said hippy uses are very frequent when talking about/reviewing any audio components.

Point is, I know I don't have the greatest or fanciest amp/DAC combo, but those pieces of equipment allowed my cans to truly open up. So what I'm saying is that anyone with high-impedance, high-quality cans that are currently just jacking straight off of their motherboard soundcard can really upgrade by getting a decent USB amp/DAC combo. Of course, this may end up costing as much or more than the cans you paid for in the first place, but if you paid that much for cans you can't adequately drive or enjoy, you were wasting your money to begin with. Waste a little more, and truly wake your music up!


I wasn't calling you a hippy, I was calling the CNET audiophile auther a hippy, and noting that he reviews headphone amplifiers.  But he's really not even a hippy (hippie) because he isn't old enough.

I'm Ron Swanson's age, with a Ron Swanson mindset.  I swear they have an old guy in the writing room.
 
2013-01-17 02:48:18 AM

rocky_howard: These will blow the hell out of any of the Dre abortions, but more power to him for finding fools to get richer:
(click on the image for more details)


Got those a couple of months ago and am a very happy camper.
 
2013-01-17 02:51:37 AM
Etymotic Research ER-4 for me. Best earbuds EVER!
 
2013-01-17 02:55:43 AM
I like Beats, I won a pair from HP and they sold for a pretty penny.

Oh, sorry for the confusion, I didn't say I like USING Beats.
 
2013-01-17 02:59:18 AM
I had to stop at, "Beats have been praised for their sound." By who? I have yet to hear anyone who knows what they're talking about call them anything other than overpriced garbage.
 
2013-01-17 03:15:41 AM

Jizz Master Zero: I had to stop at, "Beats have been praised for their sound." By who? I have yet to hear anyone who knows what they're talking about call them anything other than overpriced garbage.


Silly people. You're not buying them for the sound, you're paying for that logo printed on the side.
 
2013-01-17 03:17:28 AM
Tried over a hundred sets before getting my gf her new ones.. best without spending 400 bucks+were a full cover set of sennheiser skullcandy. even though that sounds farking embarrassing but you have to believe your ears. They were a lot better than the sennheiser branded ones for the same price. Next best up were also sennheiser.

And yes, listening to compressed mp3s through decent heaphones is enormously better than through crap. not as good as listening to a really good recording no, but so what?
 
2013-01-17 03:18:05 AM

Gordon Bennett: "If you're wearing a pair of Beats, it says, "I am very stupid with money says Gordon Bennett.

Mind you, I may not be the right one to speak. Most of what I listen to are comedies from Radio 4 and the occasional podcast. All spoken word, all perfectly listenable through a pair of £20 full-size over the ear headphones. Also, I really do not feel the need to impress people by showing off the things I have purchased.


I feel the same way when I see someone out in public wearing a full sized set of over the ear headphones. I would think that would be a pain in the ass because it's not like you can keep them in your pocket.
However, I can justify buying cans that list for over $500, because I need them to judge microphones and the like, that cost more than my car.
I repair/buy/sell high end audio gear on the side, so I consider them as tools and the only time they leave my house, is when I need them at work.
Besides, I don't think something like an iPod would power them at any more than whisper volume.
 
2013-01-17 03:41:07 AM
If you need the best, you can afford to do a little research.

If you want to look like you did a little research, remain on the couch.
 
2013-01-17 03:43:57 AM
I helped a friend move recently and after eating much pizza and soda, was told I could pick anything out of a pile of random electronics as a thank-you. I appreciated the gesture, and grabbed a pair of headphones which turned out to be Skullcandy Skullcrushers (I picked them because I liked the way they looked and I needed some gaming headphones). I like them just fine for gaming, but where music is concerned they're definitely a considerable upgrade over the earbuds that comes with the iPhone.

/retail for $70, but paying $300? Nope.
 
2013-01-17 03:51:58 AM
What is "marketing?"

"Obvious Answers" for $500 Alex.
 
2013-01-17 04:03:35 AM

meatofmystery: Beyerdynamic + USB sound card= still less than the cost of sh*t Beats cans


Oh hell yes! DT770 Pros
 
2013-01-17 04:19:42 AM
Black people spend all of their welfare money on overpriced trends? Shocking.
 
2013-01-17 04:21:12 AM
Sometimes products that seem to compete with others do not.

The purpose of an Apple Macbook Air is not to be more creative, or to be more efficient. You can spend half the money and get a Dell/HP/Lenovo that does the same job. It is so that you can sit in Starbucks showing how much disposable income you have.

Likewise, the Beats by Dr Dre are not just about headphones. If they were, they'd be black and have a piece of wire. They are funky looking as a piece of fashion, to show off that you're one of the rich hip kids. If anyone's in doubt, read how hi-fi magazines rate them. You can get a pair of $50 Sennheisers that score as highly.
 
2013-01-17 04:21:40 AM
Someone help me out here. I read this comment.

LesMorpions
4 hours ago
Actually, anyone walking around wearing big headphones on the street or in social gatherings looks like a complete moron. The only people who think it carries a message are other morons. It's how morons communicate with each other. Through fashion.


I got a set of those Dre Beats headphones free. To be honest I don't notice any difference with them. Does this mean as I walk around with them people are looking and saying, "what a moran, he must have spent loadsamoney on them, idiot"? I don't like that. However is it just nerdy audiophiles with no friends who'd say that, because all the cool kids have bought into the marketing hype and fashion trends? So the cool kids are saying "wow, he's got £300 headphones, I should probably mug him"? I prefer the latter. It's all about looking cooool.
 
2013-01-17 04:42:28 AM

fusillade762: FlashHarry: it's sad; there's an entire generation that has never heard an uncompressed piece of music.

Kids don't go to live concerts anymore?


GAT_00: I can't stand earbuds,

Seconded. I don't see how people can use them.


Well, take my situation. I have a moderate to severe hearing loss. 65* Db bilateral, from a fever when I was 2 and a half. Also I'm a pretty heavy cyclist who listens to music when he rides. This is actually legal if you use just one ear-bud (or headphone) at a time, just like driving. But I use two, because I can't hear the traffic anyways. I simply can't use cans (headphones) and wear a helmet at the same time, so when I ride I have to use ear buds. That much makes sense, right?
Now, that hearing loss thing... I've tried cheaper ear-buds, but even the $30-40 SOny ear buds don't do so great when I turn the music up very loud, which I have to do with some albums or songs because of the way it was mixed/mastered; not to mention that I have to turn things up much louder than most people just to hear it at all. So I've been using a $90 pair of Bose ear buds, specifically the IE2 because the shape of teh ear bud funnels the music right into my ears"
www.bose.com
Over the years I've discovered that if I don't have ear buds that are approximately that exact shape, I can't hear anything (music wise) over about 30-35 mph. Hell, I even lose a bit at 20 mph with normal ear buds, and that's my average speed commuting.

Anyways, I hope I've given you some insight as to why some people would use ear-buds. FWIW, I use my Cans when I'm actually at work.

\* These numbers mean that if I was 1 foot away from a speaker, and you were about 33 feet away we would be hearing the same thing, assuming I'm un-aided. Sucks, huh?
\\Because the volume of the sound is proportional to the square of the distance.
 
2013-01-17 04:44:32 AM
In case you are wondering, you can't use hearing aids and ride a bike. You know that sound a speaker makes when you blow onto a microphone? It's like that, but a hundred times worse since the speaker is mm away from my ear drum.
 
2013-01-17 04:51:56 AM
There are two completely different types of compression that are being referred to seemingly interchangeably in this thread. Let's just clear up a couple things here: the first occurrence of the word compression comes in the thread name. The compression being referred to here and in a number of the comments in the thread is data compression. This type of compression, used to squeeze a digital signal into a smaller number of bytes, was highly necessary in the early days of digital audio and -- among many other things -- allowed Apple to claim that you could put 1,000 songs in your pocket. They failed to mention that these thousand songs would sound vaguely like oatmeal.

These sorts of data compression algorithms were invented by some very clever people and are based on some fairly accurate psychacoustic masking models, so they are a little amazing in how much they can reduce a song's file size without massively impacting the signal quality... but wow the algorithms can do a real number on fidelity if pushed too hard (which they almost always are). This sort of compression also seems somewhat less necessary these days when portable music players could easily store >1,000 digitally uncompressed songs.


But there's an entirely different sort of compression that's being discussed elsewhere in the comments, namely dynamic range compression. This type of compression reduces the amplitude of the highest level signals and brings up the lowest level signals. It's necessary for LPs because of their inherent lack of a large dynamic range (the difference in the lowest level and highest level signals the record can reproduce). That said, a bit of compression can actually be very musical sounding.

Overuse of dynamic range compression, on the other hand, squashes the sound in a very unpleasant way, resulting in music that lacks dynamics.This makes the music simultaneously unexciting and very fatiguing to listen to. In a terrible turn of events, it also allows mixers and mastering engineers to effectively increase the "loudness" of a piece of music, which is something the marketers and producers really liked: 'Hey kid!.. make this record louder than everything else out there" ... and here we entered an awful arms race that has yet to end.

This tldrscreed needs to end now, so I'll end with a plea to the record industry: leave the music digitally uncompressed and preserve its natural dynamics... and to the listeners: get some decent headphones (good god not a pair of "Beats") and reach for the damn volume knob if you want your music louder.
 
2013-01-17 04:52:00 AM
As an audiophile, I really hate the Beats craze. They're not awful, but they're WAY overpriced for how good they are. For $300 you have the option of some amazing headphones. The Denon AH-D2000 I have next to me right now I got for $225, and they blow Beats out of the water, as do my $100 Grados and Shure in-ears.

Oh wait...but Beats are stylish and trendy. Guess that's all that matters.
 
2013-01-17 04:53:47 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: In case you are wondering, you can't use hearing aids and ride a bike. You know that sound a speaker makes when you blow onto a microphone? It's like that, but a hundred times worse since the speaker is mm away from my ear drum.


Dayum. Thank you for sharing that, really. That never even crossed my mind.
I know that to be true, because when micing an outdoor concert, even a mild breeze across the mics sounds like thunder.
I carry a lot of thin sponge rubber, and tape for just that reason.
 
2013-01-17 04:58:40 AM
Oh, and just to contribute some more headphone pron:

www.productwiki.com
media.headphone.com
media.headphone.com
media.headphone.com
 
2013-01-17 05:02:17 AM

TommyymmoT: Uchiha_Cycliste: In case you are wondering, you can't use hearing aids and ride a bike. You know that sound a speaker makes when you blow onto a microphone? It's like that, but a hundred times worse since the speaker is mm away from my ear drum.

Dayum. Thank you for sharing that, really. That never even crossed my mind.
I know that to be true, because when micing an outdoor concert, even a mild breeze across the mics sounds like thunder.
I carry a lot of thin sponge rubber, and tape for just that reason.


You are welcome. In addition, I think it's a common misconception that hearing aids are to hearing loss what glasses are to poor vision and it's quite wrong. The environments in which you can use the aids are really quite limited, especially when you consider that if they get wet they break too. Any wind makes them useless, any water is dangerous. In a loud or crowded room, like a restaurant they pick up whatever is loudest, not what you want to hear. And to top it all off, because they can only amplify a discreet number of frequencies and sound (especially music)is a continuous spectrum, you are not really hearing what is there; and music always sounds like ass with them in. Gotta take em out and turn up the volume. And I have REALLY nice hearing aids too, >$3000 each. (most insurance doesn't help at all, but that's changing as the Boomers need aids) The batteries are hella expensive $15/8 batteries. And I go through 1-2 batteries per week, per ear. With minimal usage. I only put them on when talking with coworkers. Maybe 5% of my work day; unless I have a meeting. Top it all off, it scares the hell out of me to ride my bike with them, just because/in case. So I generally leave them at work where I know I will need them. And am usually unaided at home.

The whole situation sucks, but it's sure better than not hearing. .
 
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