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2013-01-16 02:22:54 PM
I am not normally for custodial sentences for trivial matters like throwing a rabbit off a bridge. I would never commit cruelty to animals in this way, but I believe too high a premium is put on non-sentient beings and that a big fine would be sufficient punishment.

That said, in this case, at least according to the facts as presented in the article, this 18-year-old delinquent stole the property of a homeless man, a thoroughly despicable act, and more so because this property was a living animal that the homeless man has adopted a huge attachment to (enough of one to jump off a bridge to rescue it.) To do something like that to a vulnerable person for a quick laugh is despicable. In view of these circumstances, a four-month jail sentences is entirely appropriate and I commend the magistrate for it.
 
2013-01-16 02:24:12 PM

simon_bar_sinister: 4 months is the wrong punishment. A year of inpatient psych with lots of "therapy". And make sure everyone knows about until age 30. You know the drill - local PD, employers, neighbors etc.


This. Being around regular criminals in a regular jail/prison is just going to broaden the young sociopath's horizons. He needs help for his mental illness and a note in his criminal records that show that he could develop into a full-blown sociopath. That way, the local police can keep an eye on him.
 
2013-01-16 02:26:15 PM

Parthenogenetic: //by the way, THE BUNNY DIED :(


Ah, never mind. I see now that he resuscitated it.

"I wasn't going to leave him there," John said. "I had to get him, I had to jump in to get him. Barney died in my arms but I got him under the bridge and gave him the kiss of life."

Room must have gotten dusty when I read the bunny died.
 
2013-01-16 02:27:23 PM

skinink: Just what I always wanted. My own little bunny rabbit. I will name him George, and I will hug him and pet him and squeeze him and pat him and pet him and rub him and caress him and...


Lemmy!
 
2013-01-16 02:28:26 PM

Oldiron_79: Its just a rabbit isnt it


Do you have any pets? Do you mind if I throw them off a bridge? After all, they're just animals, no?
 
2013-01-16 02:29:51 PM

Vodka Zombie: Take everything that punk owns or calls his own and give it to the homeless guy and his bunny.

That would be justice.


THIS.

/goddammit why am I at work right now
//I need to hug my bunny ASAP

Electromax: The Muthaship: LL316: The Muthaship: That's a great story, and I'm glad the asshole is going to jail.

But, that homeless dude is a f*cking moron.

Ok, I'll bite...why is he a moron?

He jumped off a bridge to save a rabbit. I understand he really liked the rabbit, but he could have been seriously hurt or killed.

True, but he's been homeless since he was 14. If you have one possession in the world, particularly a living breathing one, you probably cling to it pretty tight. It could be the only thing keeping him going. Or maybe you aren't as concerned about being hurt or killed when the only thing you have to lose is being lost right in front of you. Dunno, but I think it would be difficult for any farker to put themselves in the mind of a decades-long homeless person in terms of value placed on things unless they've been there.


Well said.

So happy the bunny made it.
 
2013-01-16 02:31:50 PM

simon_bar_sinister: libranoelrose: This thread is proof that the ignore deature is one of the best things Fark has going for it. Stop quoting trolls.

Why would ignore anyone? Everyone has a contribution to the discussion, even trolls. You do too, occasionaly.


The only people I put on ignore are those who only have one opinion and apply it to every topic. They never ADD anything to a discussion, so I don't miss anything by not seeing the same rants posted time and time again.

For instance, there is one farker who consistently posts, "Atheism is a religion." I don't even have to name the farker, but everyone who's ever read a thread on religion or atheism or general morality probably knows who I'm talking about based on just those four words.
 
2013-01-16 02:34:48 PM
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That's better.
 
2013-01-16 02:39:12 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: simon_bar_sinister: 4 months is the wrong punishment. A year of inpatient psych with lots of "therapy". And make sure everyone knows about until age 30. You know the drill - local PD, employers, neighbors etc.

This. Being around regular criminals in a regular jail/prison is just going to broaden the young sociopath's horizons. He needs help for his mental illness and a note in his criminal records that show that he could develop into a full-blown sociopath. That way, the local police can keep an eye on him.


He is a "regular criminal". If he'd stolen a Twinkie from a convenience store (or "done the barest minimum to warrant any kind of jail time"), would we be asking to segregate him out?

Jail is for people who commit (certain types of) crimes. The way you laid it out, every offender who didn't rape or kill would be sent to therapy rather than jail.

// alternatively, this type of "rehabilitative therapy" is exactly what jails/prisons should be doing anyway, so...I agree?
// I'm a seamstress?!
 
2013-01-16 02:39:44 PM
Vodka Zombie
Take everything that punk owns or calls his own and give it to the homeless guy and his bunny.

This really is a case where he should have been sentenced to be the guy's butler.
 
2013-01-16 02:45:20 PM
Dude made out with his rabbit?
 
2013-01-16 02:46:24 PM

dudicon: The My Little Pony Killer: The Muthaship: LL316: The Muthaship: That's a great story, and I'm glad the asshole is going to jail.

But, that homeless dude is a f*cking moron.

Ok, I'll bite...why is he a moron?

He jumped off a bridge to save a rabbit. I understand he really liked the rabbit, but he could have been seriously hurt or killed.

How else was he supposed to get down to his drowning rabbit quickly?

The bridge isn't really that high.. I wouldn't really say he was risking his life, people jump off shiat higher than that for fun all the time.


It's not so much the height of the bridge, but rather the depth of the water. If he somehow went in headfirst, and there were large rocks 2 feet below the surface, he could well have been risking his life.
 
2013-01-16 02:46:39 PM

mdeesnuts: I'm confused why a homeless person would have a pet. They have a hard enough time taking care of themselves.


People like companionship. Even homeless people.
 
2013-01-16 02:47:48 PM
Next up, two-minutes hate with Gary Kearney.
 
2013-01-16 02:49:46 PM

Felgraf: The Muthaship: But, that homeless dude is a f*cking moron.

Why? For risking his life? The rabbit and his dog are likely, to some extent, all he friggen has.


The fact that all he has is a rabbit and a dog are also evidence that he may, in fact, not be the sharpest tool in the shed.
 
2013-01-16 02:54:45 PM
Too bad it wasn't this bunny:
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2013-01-16 02:55:53 PM
selfish, but here it comes: this whole story makes me sad for my country. i don't think it would happen here, that the kid would get in any trouble, or that any notice would be taken. our Puritan-to-evangelical background teaches that animals are nearly nothing- it's a sick idea, but it's endemic. on a side note: five thousand people in Ireland are homeless? seems like a single rich coont could fix that.
 
2013-01-16 02:56:26 PM

simon_bar_sinister: libranoelrose: This thread is proof that the ignore deature is one of the best things Fark has going for it. Stop quoting trolls.

Why would ignore anyone? Everyone has a contribution to the discussion, even trolls. You do too, occasionaly.


Yay!
 
2013-01-16 02:59:15 PM

rainbowbutter: selfish, but here it comes: this whole story makes me sad for my country. i don't think it would happen here, that the kid would get in any trouble, or that any notice would be taken. our Puritan-to-evangelical background teaches that animals are nearly nothing- it's a sick idea, but it's endemic. on a side note: five thousand people in Ireland are homeless? seems like a single rich coont could fix that.


IT'S A FREAKING BUNNY.  And homeless guy who saves his friend.  And punk kids these days.

You really don't think that story would be on every local 6 PM news?

It would.
 
2013-01-16 03:01:05 PM

StingerJ: I've said it before and I'll say it again: to hell with cleanliness, caring for animals is next to godliness.


Awww, that makes me feel good. (And a lot of other animale caretakers, too I bet.)
 
2013-01-16 03:01:13 PM

Dr Dreidel: Mitch Taylor's Bro: simon_bar_sinister: 4 months is the wrong punishment. A year of inpatient psych with lots of "therapy". And make sure everyone knows about until age 30. You know the drill - local PD, employers, neighbors etc.

This. Being around regular criminals in a regular jail/prison is just going to broaden the young sociopath's horizons. He needs help for his mental illness and a note in his criminal records that show that he could develop into a full-blown sociopath. That way, the local police can keep an eye on him.

He is a "regular criminal". If he'd stolen a Twinkie from a convenience store (or "done the barest minimum to warrant any kind of jail time"), would we be asking to segregate him out?

Jail is for people who commit (certain types of) crimes. The way you laid it out, every offender who didn't rape or kill would be sent to therapy rather than jail.

// alternatively, this type of "rehabilitative therapy" is exactly what jails/prisons should be doing anyway, so...I agree?
// I'm a seamstress?!


I know that correlation is not causation, but there is a correlation between people who commit acts of animal cruelty and sociopaths who move on to committing more serious crimes against humans. That's why I think acts of animal cruelty need to be handled differently.

NY Times article, "The Animal-Cruelty Syndrome."
 
2013-01-16 03:01:39 PM

Jument: Felgraf: The Muthaship: But, that homeless dude is a f*cking moron.

Why? For risking his life? The rabbit and his dog are likely, to some extent, all he friggen has.

The fact that all he has is a rabbit and a dog are also evidence that he may, in fact, not be the sharpest tool in the shed.


The above is evidence that you are definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed.
 
2013-01-16 03:02:12 PM
Kid was probably listening to "bunnies" by Horse the Band....
 
2013-01-16 03:04:22 PM

vrax: Jument: Felgraf: The Muthaship: But, that homeless dude is a f*cking moron.

Why? For risking his life? The rabbit and his dog are likely, to some extent, all he friggen has.

The fact that all he has is a rabbit and a dog are also evidence that he may, in fact, not be the sharpest tool in the shed.

The above is evidence that you are definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed.


Quite possibly true but I have someplace warm to sleep tonight.

/for which I am thankful
 
2013-01-16 03:08:50 PM

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That's better.


thank you.


(squeeee)
 
2013-01-16 03:09:07 PM

Dear Jerk: Vodka Zombie
Take everything that punk owns or calls his own and give it to the homeless guy and his bunny.

This really is a case where he should have been sentenced to be the guy's butler.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-16 03:11:40 PM
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2013-01-16 03:18:00 PM
Picture of the perpetrator
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2013-01-16 03:22:51 PM
"all the world will be your enemy... be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed."
that part makes me cry every time, and now i know that it's because it's about us.
too soon old, too late smart!
but really, could some rich coont just fix this? what is it, the price of a vacay?
 
2013-01-16 03:25:58 PM
SageC: Oldiron_79: Its just a rabbit isnt it

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I can't beleive that 1st 2 people didn't get what I meant
 
2013-01-16 03:38:46 PM
No pics from bunny suicides here
 
2013-01-16 03:39:37 PM
First thing I thought of:
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2013-01-16 03:39:51 PM

NutWrench: [files.abovetopsecret.com image 410x294]


I can totally see one of my rabbits doing that.
 
2013-01-16 03:54:10 PM

carrion_luggage: [dorkshelf.com image 587x295]

Would like you to put the bunny back.

/it took this long... really?


shiat you're right.
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2013-01-16 03:56:33 PM
In DEC, it was reported that the bunny-throwing miscreant has already been tried: "The court heard that Kearney was brought up in care, has 138 previous convictions and is already in detention at St Patrick's Institution." http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/04/youth-threw-homeless-mans-r abbit-dublin-sentenced_n_2236642.html

The story has a little lag on it so wanted to reference the time-frame - this happend in JUL 2011. Couldn't find out of the owner, John Byrne had received donations through any particular group, that's what I was looking for.

138 convictions and the kid hasn't had his shiate beaten straight yet?
 
2013-01-16 03:58:58 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Dr Dreidel: Mitch Taylor's Bro: simon_bar_sinister: 4 months is the wrong punishment. A year of inpatient psych with lots of "therapy". And make sure everyone knows about until age 30. You know the drill - local PD, employers, neighbors etc.

This. Being around regular criminals in a regular jail/prison is just going to broaden the young sociopath's horizons. He needs help for his mental illness and a note in his criminal records that show that he could develop into a full-blown sociopath. That way, the local police can keep an eye on him.

He is a "regular criminal". If he'd stolen a Twinkie from a convenience store (or "done the barest minimum to warrant any kind of jail time"), would we be asking to segregate him out?

Jail is for people who commit (certain types of) crimes. The way you laid it out, every offender who didn't rape or kill would be sent to therapy rather than jail.

// alternatively, this type of "rehabilitative therapy" is exactly what jails/prisons should be doing anyway, so...I agree?
// I'm a seamstress?!

I know that correlation is not causation, but there is a correlation between people who commit acts of animal cruelty and sociopaths who move on to committing more serious crimes against humans. That's why I think acts of animal cruelty need to be handled differently.

NY Times article, "The Animal-Cruelty Syndrome."


Thanks for the link. That was a very good article although at times it was hard to read. I can't believe the things that people do to poor animals.
 
2013-01-16 04:04:04 PM

Millennium: I don't know why, but I'm reminded of the Gygax Rabbit Puzzle.

It goes like this: the party has just beaten the Big Bad Evil Guy. The room beyond him is mostly empty, but the exit door is locked. Magic fails to budge the door, and lockpicks simply break. Next to the door is a small table, and on the table is a small gilt cage. There are two things in the cage. One is a key that looks like it might fit the lock; it is taped to the cage floor. The other is a small white rabbit, which is currently asleep.

The actual solution is simply to open the cage, take out the key, and use it to unlock the door. The point of the puzzle, though, is to sit back and laugh while the party goes through ridiculous contortions not to touch the cage or disturb the rabbit.


Yeah, and goddamm you and all the other clever GMs.
Bullshiat puzzles, wish spells that go horribly wrong because of a pronoun, decks of many things all over the place, camouflaged-slime molds, making sure the most reckless of the party finds the wand of wonder... oops, forgot to look up- surprise cloaker!


/cockatrice
 
2013-01-16 04:07:12 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: I know that correlation is not causation, but there is a correlation between people who commit acts of animal cruelty and sociopaths who move on to committing more serious crimes against humans. That's why I think acts of animal cruelty need to be handled differently.


So? People who steal candy bars as kids are more likely to lead "lives of crime" as they age - does that mean petty theft gets met with therapy only as well? Child molesters have the worst recidivism rate (i.e. are most likely to re-commit the same crime) - do they need extensive corrective therapy, or the death penalty?

I'm all for diverting minor offenders into "not-jail" situations - counseling, weekly PO visits, mandatory rehab - but let's not start breaking it down based on the kind of crime. We can all agree that first offenders are the most likely to benefit from such interventions, and more minor crimes (like petty theft or animal cruelty) are more deserving of such interventions.

Jail shouldn't be a one-way ticket out of the ability to function normally (so, we don't lock up petty thieves with multiple murderers), but we also shouldn't pretend that therapy can help every hardened criminal turn their lives around.

// s-some men, y-you just cain't reach
 
2013-01-16 04:19:38 PM

LL316: The Muthaship: LL316: The Muthaship: That's a great story, and I'm glad the asshole is going to jail.

But, that homeless dude is a f*cking moron.

Ok, I'll bite...why is he a moron?

He jumped off a bridge to save a rabbit. I understand he really liked the rabbit, but he could have been seriously hurt or killed.

And he has so much to live for otherwise? I think it's a safe assumption to guess that the rabbit and dog are his family by this point, since he's been on the streets since age 14.


Former homeless here. I had a dog (Rot/mutt mix) that was literally the only thing that helped keep me sane. I got her when she was a pup about 6 months old. She listened when I talked, helped keep me warm on cold nights, gave me warning when someone approached us, was always ready for a head scratch or just to put her head in my lap and hang out and stayed beside me when the "friends" that introduced me to the drugs that started a downward spiral that left me homeless abandoned me.

Would I have jumped in a river to save her? Absolutely! Would I have lost my mind on anyone who hurt her? Without a second thought.

I just hate this guy is still homeless and begging.

/clean for 12 years.
//Sheba is in a grave in my fathers back yard. When I finally got on my feet and stable, her health declined to the point the vet said it would be best to put her down. Her hips and legs were giving out on her and our poor diet for so long didn't help.
///I miss her.
 
2013-01-16 04:25:27 PM

kendelrio: LL316: The Muthaship: LL316: The Muthaship: That's a great story, and I'm glad the asshole is going to jail.

But, that homeless dude is a f*cking moron.

Ok, I'll bite...why is he a moron?

He jumped off a bridge to save a rabbit. I understand he really liked the rabbit, but he could have been seriously hurt or killed.

And he has so much to live for otherwise? I think it's a safe assumption to guess that the rabbit and dog are his family by this point, since he's been on the streets since age 14.

Former homeless here. I had a dog (Rot/mutt mix) that was literally the only thing that helped keep me sane. I got her when she was a pup about 6 months old. She listened when I talked, helped keep me warm on cold nights, gave me warning when someone approached us, was always ready for a head scratch or just to put her head in my lap and hang out and stayed beside me when the "friends" that introduced me to the drugs that started a downward spiral that left me homeless abandoned me.

Would I have jumped in a river to save her? Absolutely! Would I have lost my mind on anyone who hurt her? Without a second thought.

I just hate this guy is still homeless and begging.

/clean for 12 years.
//Sheba is in a grave in my fathers back yard. When I finally got on my feet and stable, her health declined to the point the vet said it would be best to put her down. Her hips and legs were giving out on her and our poor diet for so long didn't help.
///I miss her.


Good but sad story Bro. I just wanted to say that I had a great dog named Sheba too.
 
2013-01-16 04:32:57 PM

Cold_Sassy: Thanks for the link. That was a very good article although at times it was hard to read. I can't believe the things that people do to poor animals.


You're welcome. Yes, it's hard to believe people would do bad things to innocent animals...until you realize the things people do to other innocent people. Humans have an incredible capacity for evil...which is only balanced out by our incredible capacity for kindness. At least I hope it balances out somehow.
 
2013-01-16 04:37:07 PM
This punk should have to serve his probation in an orange jumpsuit with "I stole a helpless pet out of his owner's arms and tried to drown it right in front of him" stenciled on the back.

/That would teach him.
 
2013-01-16 04:37:21 PM
Isn't that the song from Watership Down?
 
2013-01-16 04:39:16 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: I'm in a glass case of emotion!


"Milk was a bad idea."
 
2013-01-16 04:40:06 PM

Dr Dreidel: Mitch Taylor's Bro: I know that correlation is not causation, but there is a correlation between people who commit acts of animal cruelty and sociopaths who move on to committing more serious crimes against humans. That's why I think acts of animal cruelty need to be handled differently.

So? People who steal candy bars as kids are more likely to lead "lives of crime" as they age - does that mean petty theft gets met with therapy only as well?


Ahh, I see the disconnect. You seem to have missed this sentence in the post I was responding to: "A year of inpatient psych with lots of "therapy"." [critical word bolded by yours truly for emphasis.]

This means that the perp would be removed from polite society for longer than his 4-month jail sentence while he received evaluation and counseling about his complete lack of empathy for other living creatures.

// s-some men, y-you just cain't reach

True, but I have hope for you ;-)
 
2013-01-16 04:42:25 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: You seem to have missed this sentence in the post I was responding to: "A year of inpatient psych with lots of "therapy".


Yes, I did miss that. Point taken.
 
2013-01-16 04:59:30 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: rainbowbutter: selfish, but here it comes: this whole story makes me sad for my country. i don't think it would happen here, that the kid would get in any trouble, or that any notice would be taken. our Puritan-to-evangelical background teaches that animals are nearly nothing- it's a sick idea, but it's endemic. on a side note: five thousand people in Ireland are homeless? seems like a single rich coont could fix that.

IT'S A FREAKING BUNNY.  And homeless guy who saves his friend.  And punk kids these days.

You really don't think that story would be on every local 6 PM news?

It would.


Minus the bunny, but some rich kid did fark with a homeless guy recently and basically had to do community service:http://www.allabouttrh.com/alexia-echevarrias-son-peter-rosel lo-avoids -jail-time-in-battery-case/
 
2013-01-16 04:59:31 PM

Dr Dreidel: Mitch Taylor's Bro: I know that correlation is not causation, but there is a correlation between people who commit acts of animal cruelty and sociopaths who move on to committing more serious crimes against humans. That's why I think acts of animal cruelty need to be handled differently.

So? People who steal candy bars as kids are more likely to lead "lives of crime" as they age - does that mean petty theft gets met with therapy only as well? Child molesters have the worst recidivism rate (i.e. are most likely to re-commit the same crime) - do they need extensive corrective therapy, or the death penalty?

I'm all for diverting minor offenders into "not-jail" situations - counseling, weekly PO visits, mandatory rehab - but let's not start breaking it down based on the kind of crime. We can all agree that first offenders are the most likely to benefit from such interventions, and more minor crimes (like petty theft or animal cruelty) are more deserving of such interventions.

Jail shouldn't be a one-way ticket out of the ability to function normally (so, we don't lock up petty thieves with multiple murderers), but we also shouldn't pretend that therapy can help every hardened criminal turn their lives around.

// s-some men, y-you just cain't reach


Child molesters are like homosexuals in that they are wired differently in the head but in a bad way.
 
2013-01-16 05:00:20 PM

Vodka Zombie: Take everything that punk owns or calls his own and give it to the homeless guy and his bunny.

That would be justice.


I thought maybe sewing him into a bag of rats and tossing him into the river would be justice. However, I have a higher regard for the rats than for him, so maybe he'd have to be sewn into the bag by himself.
 
2013-01-16 05:04:37 PM

Dr Dreidel: Mitch Taylor's Bro: You seem to have missed this sentence in the post I was responding to: "A year of inpatient psych with lots of "therapy".

Yes, I did miss that. Point taken.


Hope: Validated! [internetfistbump.jpg] :-)
 
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