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(AP)   President Obama has announced his new world order where Uncle Sam will now confiscate your gun...wait...what...those are, um, reasonable and Constitutional expansions to regulation authority. You may now cancel your outrage   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 1376
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2013-01-16 02:33:30 PM  
An Executive Order that enhanced background checks, closes loopholes and tries to have the States share their background database, truly Obama is the worlds greatest monster.
 
2013-01-16 02:33:39 PM  

Koalaesq: Well, yeah, but if he REALLY wanted to make gun violence drop like a stone he'd have to address out nation's drug laws. But that ain't happening in my lifetime or yours.


This.
 
2013-01-16 02:33:54 PM  
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

Bye HIPAA, was nice knowing you. So much for patients rights.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

A blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment. Essentially, if I get pulled over while carrying a gun, the police officer gets to keep it for six to eight weeks? Don't think so.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

You know... The NRA has been doing that for more than 100 years. Maybe if you would actually talk to them instead of vilify them at every turn...

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

Yeah, okay sure. Wait, what kind of criminal investigations? If I get busted for jaywalking does that mean the FBI has to run my gun? Hello Fourth Amendment again. The firearm has to be pertinent to the crime to be searched and seized.

Bah, not like the Constitution stood a chance..

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

Wait... I though that police officers in schools wasn't a viable answer? Hang on... Did Obama just implement the NRAs suggestion? Obama must be the greatest troll ever. Not only does he get the whole left riled up against the NRA's "stupid" suggestion, he goes and implements it. LOL
 
2013-01-16 02:34:16 PM  
This far and away the least traumatic option. Seizeing weapons already owned would be a nightmare.

minoridiot: Grand_Moff_Joseph: As for fully private sales, just require a license and proof of sale/purchase to be available to present on demand for any firearm. If you can't produce it (or provide it in 24 hours), you get arrested, and the gun is seized.

I don't have a proof of sale for any of my guns, all of which I've purchased over 10 years ago.  So I should go to jail?


I inherited most of my guns, so also no bill of sale.. BTW, we both need to buy more and newer guns.
 
2013-01-16 02:34:22 PM  
AWB and high cap ban will never pass. Dems in gun states are not going to risk losing their seat over this.

The universal background check has a chance.
 
2013-01-16 02:34:35 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: As for fully private sales, just require a license and proof of sale/purchase to be available to present on demand for any firearm. If you can't produce it (or provide it in 24 hours), you get arrested, and the gun is seized.


The burden of proof is on the government that a private weapon is illegal.
 
2013-01-16 02:34:56 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Actually, I've learned recently of how many road signs in the US are actually marked on the back with secret signals designed to communicate high-value strike targets and directions to an invading UN army, and on a recent trip into town noticed no less than FOUR new road signs along my regular route. I don't know if all of them had secret signals on the back, because it did not occur to me then to stop and check, but that sudden proliferation along with his new and unprecedented move against the Constitution makes me wonder if perhaps we are approaching some tipping point. I'm going to study it out a little more and see what else I can find; I earnestly suggest that everyone else does likewise.


You just unjumped the shark and became funny again. Well done, good sir.
 
2013-01-16 02:35:04 PM  
Sandy Hook truly is the 9/11 of gun control.

We are going to end up with PATRIOT Act level effectiveness, costs and trampling of rights.

/never underestimate the political class
 
2013-01-16 02:35:14 PM  

vpb: The overriding the second amendment stuff is just irresponsible people stirring up trouble with the lunatic fringe.


The GOP calls that "speaking to our base."
 
2013-01-16 02:35:24 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Is it Constitutional to infringe on citizens' right to keep and bear arms? Even if there wasn't a 2nd Amendment, it wouldn't be legal for the feds to regulate guns because it would be a matter for the states, as per the 10th Amendment.


Aw, you're cute. You think the delegation construction of the Constitution has the slightest connection to what the Supreme Court will let the feds get away with.
 
2013-01-16 02:35:27 PM  

Callous: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Callous: I have read the 23 executive orders and nothing jumped out at me as bad.  I will have to look them over again when I have time to really think about them and see if my opinion changes.  My only concern would be abuse of the mental health system where people are too easily labeled unsuitable.

No to an AWB.   Could live with background checks for private sales if dealers aren't allowed to gouge us for making a phone call.  Or better yet make the NICSaccessible to everyone.  No to magazine bans.

/NRA Life Member

I just don't get the huge hang up about AWs and overly large standard mags.  Even in the hands of a sane and well trained person, I can't think of a single legitimate need to have either of those. (and "just because" doesn't pass muster, imo)

Because I don't like spending more time filling mags than shooting when I am at the range.


I was talking to my husband about this last night... he's somewhat to the right but mostly politically apathetic. He thought that making higher capacity mags legal only at (and possibly sold at) gun ranges would be a good compromise. There's something to be said for letting the enthusiasts have their fun, but in real life, if you can't shoot a deer with only a few shots, you should probably not be shooting at the deer at all. I couldn't find a whole lot of fault with that logic.
 
2013-01-16 02:35:33 PM  

minoridiot: Grand_Moff_Joseph: As for fully private sales, just require a license and proof of sale/purchase to be available to present on demand for any firearm. If you can't produce it (or provide it in 24 hours), you get arrested, and the gun is seized.

I don't have a proof of sale for any of my guns, all of which I've purchased over 10 years ago.  So I should go to jail?


those are the best weapons to own. just don't go looking for owner's manuals online from your own computer. pay cash for ammo.
 
2013-01-16 02:35:45 PM  
The outrage wasn't based on facts in the first place.
 
2013-01-16 02:35:49 PM  

LasersHurt: You contend that the majority of illegal guns ALL come from being stolen? By irresponsible gun owners who just let them lie around?


No, I do not have exact stats.  But some of the guns on the black market are stolen.  It matters not where I leave my guns in my house.  B&E is already illegal.  Theft is already illegal.  Me leaving my gun in my night stand is hardly irresponsible.
 
2013-01-16 02:35:52 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Phinn: I can save the CDC the time and money involved in extensive gun violence research:

Most gun crimes are committed by black and Hispanic drug-dealing gang-members.

Or is this the part of the "national discussion" we're not supposed to mention?

So you're saying we need to expand restrictions on hand guns too? Let's get on it.


No, it means that law-abiding people need handguns (or any weapon of their choosing, really) to defend themselves against the occasional spill-over threat posed by black and Hispanic drug-dealing gang members.

What Obama should really propose, in order to save the most lives, is a slate of proposals designed to eliminate the threat posed by black and Hispanic drug-dealing gang members.

Since that's who's committing the most gun violence.
 
2013-01-16 02:35:56 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: whiz


No shiat. A big gun nut I know (who thinks the Sandy Hook shootings was the result of the government hiring a bunch of actors) carries guns everywhere he goes, because, as he says, "you never know." Our small city has had something like three murders in the past five years, and maybe four or five shootings. What the hell is the name of the universe he lives in?
 
2013-01-16 02:36:05 PM  
Telling Republicans not to be outraged is like telling them they cant breathe through their mouth.

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2013-01-16 02:36:10 PM  

Weaver95: so far, all the right people seem to oppose Obama's plans.  if the NRA or Rush Limbaugh are against something then it's probably a plan worth following.


This can't be repeated enough.
 
2013-01-16 02:36:10 PM  
Honestly? It's about what I expected. I didn't think the White House wanted a full fledged brawl over this issue. I really don't see much to object over. At least now we can move on to something else.

\need to check out the details
\\the Devil is in there you know
 
2013-01-16 02:36:11 PM  
Nothing he does will even remotely solve the problem. All it will do is be a pain in the ass for legal gun owners. nothing more. Next shooting that happens with a 10 round magazine will prompt bans on them as well. Then 5 rounds will be the maximum. Then only bolt action rifles allowed. Then only revolvers. Then ATF will have the right to come into your house to check, for safety of course. Etc....

Really doesn't sound unreasonable does it? But that is how this starts. background checks? No problem. I always get one, because I buy from a dealer. But my doctor now will quiz me on gun ownership? I don't like the vague stipulations regarding Obamacare, I wonder if my doctor will now have to investigate any evil gun ownership and report it to the IRS, or ATF, Brown Shirts, what have you.
 
2013-01-16 02:36:12 PM  

The 4chan Psychiatrist: 14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

Because gun violence is inherently worse than every other type of violence...


It could be caused by demons, bad humors in the body, perhaps evil spirits in the head.  Maybe even curable by human sacrifice and trepanation.
 
2013-01-16 02:36:27 PM  
I'll reserve judgment until I see the documents generated from this. The EO authorizing assassinations, for example, is pretty vague yet pretty broad.

I'm also a little worried about keeping the paranoids away from receiving the mental health care that they need. Will be interesting to see how draconian this seems to those types after the docs are generated and the dust in the blogs settles.

In brief, I'm not sure what any of this means yet.

Also, did anyone notice the parts where the AG/DoJ is to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks and provide a report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

Maybe we'll get some more info on Fast and Furious??
 
2013-01-16 02:36:37 PM  

Click Click D'oh: 7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

You know... The NRA has been doing that for more than 100 years.


Was Nancy Lanza signed up for it?
 
2013-01-16 02:36:49 PM  

bradkanus: Callous: Endive Wombat: Gun Nut Here!

So I've looked at the list, and I really cannot get mad at it.  I do take some issue with two aspects:

1.  Doctors asking if there are guns in the home.  Some doctors are going to get yelled at, some will get preachy.  This really has nothing to do with the federal government though...
2.   "Universal Background Checks" - I have no idea what that means or how it differs from the current system.  I do fear that like many things the federal government works on, it will become convoluted, bloated and inefficient

Other than those, I ain't mad

It's basically making all private sales go through an FFL so that a NICS check is done.  Like I said above, I'm ok with that as long as the FFLs don't get to gouge on the fee or better yet open NICS up to everyone.

I've always wondered how this would work.  The government doesn't know what guns people already own in most cases (In Texas for sure) - so how would they know if I'm selling my friend a pistol?  They could track all future sales, but the approximately 300 million guns floating around now are untrackable.

I don't mind doing what I do when I buy guns off of Gunbroker - putting an FFL in the middle of the sale for a small fee.  I have nothing to hide and don't mind if they check up on me.


What you're referencing is a huge problem. What this does is make a beginning toward dealing with the problem.
 
2013-01-16 02:36:51 PM  
You ever notice how gun nuts are like "professional wrestling" fans? They both live in fantasy worlds and there is probably a correlation between the two groups.

Can you imagine the frothing outrage if someone tried to ban "professional" wrestling? The semi-justification I can see would be to protect people from stupidity. Gun nuts on the other hand are both stupid and a public safety hazard.
 
2013-01-16 02:37:19 PM  

Callous: Endive Wombat: Gun Nut Here!

So I've looked at the list, and I really cannot get mad at it.  I do take some issue with two aspects:

1.  Doctors asking if there are guns in the home.  Some doctors are going to get yelled at, some will get preachy.  This really has nothing to do with the federal government though...
2.   "Universal Background Checks" - I have no idea what that means or how it differs from the current system.  I do fear that like many things the federal government works on, it will become convoluted, bloated and inefficient

Other than those, I ain't mad

It's basically making all private sales go through an FFL so that a NICS check is done.  Like I said above, I'm ok with that as long as the FFLs don't get to gouge on the fee or better yet open NICS up to everyone.


Uh, no it's not. He's basically going to send them a letter outlining the steps they already know if someone comes in for a transfer.
 
2013-01-16 02:37:25 PM  

Endive Wombat: LasersHurt: You contend that the majority of illegal guns ALL come from being stolen? By irresponsible gun owners who just let them lie around?

No, I do not have exact stats.  But some of the guns on the black market are stolen.  It matters not where I leave my guns in my house.  B&E is already illegal.  Theft is already illegal.  Me leaving my gun in my night stand is hardly irresponsible.


When your contention is that we shouldn't monitor sales, you're ignoring that source of illegal guns. By defending your need to keep guns lying around - and blaming that for the REST of the illegal guns - you're not making a strong point.
 
2013-01-16 02:37:28 PM  

Farce-Side: CADMonkey79: Why would my doctor ask me if I had guns in the house?

So your insurance could increase your premiums and deductable.


Not happening, nobody can afford health insurance anyways.
 
2013-01-16 02:37:36 PM  
You have all this outrage packaged up and rolling.
Don't let this crappy misdirection to "gun control" disarm you.
DEMAND that your pandering politicians do someting ACTUALLY USEFUL to reduce gun violence.

And folks, this Presidential Masterbation ain't it.
 
2013-01-16 02:37:39 PM  

Thunderpipes: Liberals want more government control, less individual rights.

News at 11:00!


Conservatives want to kill children.
News at 11.
 
2013-01-16 02:37:42 PM  

Koalaesq: Holocaust Agnostic: Fubini: Supporting a renewal of the AWB is silly, but otherwise I liked what I heard. I'm truly impressed that he seems to have targeted actions and reforms that get to the bulk of gun violence rather than focusing just on high-profile shootings like Sandy Hook or Aurora.

This.

Well, yeah, but if he REALLY wanted to make gun violence drop like a stone he'd have to address out nation's drug laws. But that ain't happening in my lifetime or yours.


I may just be unreasonably optimistic, but the drug war seems to be receiving more and more negative attention.
 
2013-01-16 02:37:42 PM  

ManRay: Sandy Hook truly is the 9/11 of gun control.

We are going to end up with PATRIOT Act level effectiveness, costs and trampling of rights.

/never underestimate the political class


This is tyranny!!!!!! 1111
 
2013-01-16 02:37:46 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: How 'bout no. What you just described would turn a right into a privilege for the rich only. You really think that if the government institutes a tax on ammo to pay for mental health screenings and gun safety courses it will be used for that? Just look at the anti ...

How does that take a right away from you? We all have the right to drive a car, but we have to take a training course and pay for a license to do so. And I really don't think a 0.2% tax on that box of shells is going to dent your wallet.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harper_v._Virginia_Board_of_Elections

You cannot make a right dependent on the payment of a fee or tax.
 
2013-01-16 02:37:46 PM  

Sybarite: What? Cancel my outrage? Did you say "cancel my outrage"? No outrage is cancelled until I decide it is! Was outrage cancelled when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!


REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!
-- Admiral Chester "Bull" Halsey
 
2013-01-16 02:37:46 PM  

Colin O'Scopy: Dusk-You-n-Me: Obama wants universal background checks for guns. Would it work?

Yup.

It's the sane thing to do.


Maybe, depends on how it's enforced. Because, if you are talking about making even private sales require a background check, individuals (non-dealers) selling to another individual, you will need their 'voluntary' cooperation to make it happen. If they checks consist of a simple phone call, a quick response, minimal fee you will get a lot of cooperation. But, knowing how gun-controllers write regulations, I would expect 10 pages of paperwork, waiting periods, huge fees, etc., you will get far less cooperation and it will be useless.
 
2013-01-16 02:38:02 PM  

Farce-Side: CADMonkey79: Why would my doctor ask me if I had guns in the house?

So your insurance could increase your premiums and deductable.


How would that conversation even start? I mean I know how it would end with me telling to get farked.
Are there doctors out there that even want to ask this question? I don't get it.
 
2013-01-16 02:38:17 PM  

gweilo8888: Pocket Ninja: Actually, I've learned recently of how many road signs in the US are actually marked on the back with secret signals designed to communicate high-value strike targets and directions to an invading UN army, and on a recent trip into town noticed no less than FOUR new road signs along my regular route. I don't know if all of them had secret signals on the back, because it did not occur to me then to stop and check, but that sudden proliferation along with his new and unprecedented move against the Constitution makes me wonder if perhaps we are approaching some tipping point. I'm going to study it out a little more and see what else I can find; I earnestly suggest that everyone else does likewise.

You just unjumped the shark and became funny again. Well done, good sir.


Are the otherwise partiotic bullet holes part of the secret code?
 
2013-01-16 02:38:36 PM  

RidgeRunner5: Popcorn Johnny: Gun ownership should be limited to the types of weapons available when the 2nd amendment was written.

Ditto for 1st amendment and all forms of communication.

Only public speaking and quill/parchment for you!


And the commerce clause should only apply to the first 13 states!
 
2013-01-16 02:38:51 PM  
I said this years ago before there was even a peep about gun control: If Obama could get away with more, he would.

Stop acting like he doesn't want to ban most types of guns.
 
2013-01-16 02:38:59 PM  
So, the most "unconstitutional" EO is for agencies to share more information that they should have already been sharing under the existing law?  I can't wait to see the Alex Jones Derp Brigade spin this into black helicopters coming to confiscate their guns and pocket-sized copies of the Constitution.
 
2013-01-16 02:39:07 PM  

minoridiot: Grand_Moff_Joseph: As for fully private sales, just require a license and proof of sale/purchase to be available to present on demand for any firearm. If you can't produce it (or provide it in 24 hours), you get arrested, and the gun is seized.

I don't have a proof of sale for any of my guns, all of which I've purchased over 10 years ago.  So I should go to jail?


No, but you should have to register them regardless.  No fines or anything, just a requirement to get them registered under your name going forward.  The serials will be checked just to make sure they weren't previously used in a crime (which if they were, you'd likely not have been aware of it), but assuming all is good, then you get your registration, and go home.

Heck, to encourage folks in your scenario to register, I'd even offer the registration for free for guns previously purchased privately.
 
2013-01-16 02:39:10 PM  
Good job at keeping the screaming dumb masses focused on something other than the disaster that Obama has made of the economy though, huh?

Masterful.
 
2013-01-16 02:39:12 PM  
Still fascism, and bad form no matter what the outcome to grandstand on the victims of Sandy Hook like this.
 
2013-01-16 02:39:27 PM  
Missed the speach - stupid pre-deployment physical. So, the executive orders are supposedly as follows:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

I'm ok with this

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

I'm ok with this

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

I'm ok with this

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

I'm (tentatively) ok with this - depends on who they say is now prohibited if they weren't previously.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

I'm ok with this, as long as it isn't used as an excuse to keep a gun any longer from a qualified person (background checks are instant with the current FFL system, should be for this as well)

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

I am (tentatively) ok with this - depends how onerous they will make private sales.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

I'm ok with this.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

I'm (tentatively) ok with this - as long as they don't try and make them compulsory for all gun owners (I build my own safes, thanks)

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

I'm ok with this

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

I'm ok with this

11. Nominate an ATF director.

I'm ok with this

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

I'm ok with this

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

I'm (tentatively) ok with this - depends on what preventative measures they implement

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

I'm (tentatively) ok with this - maintaining a neutral stance can be difficult for politically charged issues. Even a statistics-based approach can be biased depending on the setup. Hopefully that won't be an issue.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

I'm ok with this

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

This is stupid. "Yes doc, I have a gun in my home. What specific training do you have to advise me on this? None? Then lemme alone."

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

I'm ok with this

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

I'm ok with this

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

I'm ok with this

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

I'm ok with this

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

I ... am actually not sure what this means. Reserving judgement.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

Again, not sure what this means. I can admit my ignorance.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

I am ok with this

So, as a gun owner, I don't have too many issues with the exec orders. The stuff going through Congress, well, that remains to be seen.
 
2013-01-16 02:39:35 PM  

Click Click D'oh: 2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

Bye HIPAA, was nice knowing you. So much for patients rights.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

A blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment. Essentially, if I get pulled over while carrying a gun, the police officer gets to keep it for six to eight weeks? Don't think so.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

You know... The NRA has been doing that for more than 100 years. Maybe if you would actually talk to them instead of vilify them at every turn...

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

Yeah, okay sure. Wait, what kind of criminal investigations? If I get busted for jaywalking does that mean the FBI has to run my gun? Hello Fourth Amendment again. The firearm has to be pertinent to the crime to be searched and seized.

Bah, not like the Constitution stood a chance..

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

Wait... I though that police officers in schools wasn't a viable answer? Hang on... Did Obama just implement the NRAs suggestion? Obama must be the greatest troll ever. Not only does he get the whole left riled up against the NRA's "stupid" suggestion, he goes and implements it. LOL


Shhh, see, the idea is to get people like Weaver95 to feel like they came up with the ideas and get smug about it, so that we can watch them foam at the mouth when we explain they're agreeing with the NRA...
 
Bf+
2013-01-16 02:39:43 PM  
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America died.
 
2013-01-16 02:39:56 PM  
He wants to get rid of armor piercing bullets?!? How am I supposed to hunt turtles now?

Thanks but no thanks O'Bummer!
 
2013-01-16 02:40:00 PM  
Just make guns and ammo so expensive only the rich can afford them. Surely, the GOP has to get behind this idea.
 
2013-01-16 02:40:01 PM  

mesmer242: He thought that making higher capacity mags legal only at (and possibly sold at) gun ranges would be a good compromise. There's something to be said for letting the enthusiasts have their fun, but in real life, if you can't shoot a deer with only a few shots, you should probably not be shooting at the deer at all. I couldn't find a whole lot of fault with that logic.


Short example: Citizens who carry firearms defensively can usually only practically carry one magazine, though some large men and women who carry in purses could carry an extra. When assaulted by more than one attacker, five rounds each is entirely likely not enough to disable both of them. Unlike on TV, hitting a person once doesn't make him stop and drop to the ground, and there have been instances where police have emptied magazines into drugged-up attackers without stopping them.
 
2013-01-16 02:40:02 PM  
Click Click D'oh

Almost got a bite out of me. I give it 7/10.
 
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