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2013-01-16 10:59:17 AM
Our long national nightmare is finally over.
 
2013-01-16 11:00:43 AM
That seems more reasonable.
 
2013-01-16 02:42:25 PM
They finally took down the petition site??

*clicks link*

Dammit.
 
2013-01-16 02:47:53 PM
Petition to lower the signature limit in 3...2...1...
 
2013-01-16 02:48:19 PM
The whole petition thing is moronic. I mean, the idea's of the petition thing a good one, but we're seriously spending money on this kinda nonsense? While the Death Star answer thing was cute, I don't particularly like the idea of paying for that cute answer. It's wasteful.
 
2013-01-16 02:51:55 PM
The petition site are a good idea in theory, but in practice if all it accomplishes is making excuses as you why you're going to ignore those petitions, it's a waste of time and just pisses people off.

/Used to use it, now I don't anymore.
 
2013-01-16 02:52:20 PM
Since they don't seem to take the venue seriously anyway, I dont see how it matters.
 
2013-01-16 02:52:36 PM

RevRaven: The whole petition thing is moronic. I mean, the idea's of the petition thing a good one, but we're seriously spending money on this kinda nonsense? While the Death Star answer thing was cute, I don't particularly like the idea of paying for that cute answer. It's wasteful.


FTFM. What do you guys think? I don't post much and I like to skim the politics comments occasionally (and I don't block or ignore or highlight or anything), but I'm curious what other Farkers think (Pants full of macaroni!! aside)
 
2013-01-16 02:56:58 PM

RevRaven: RevRaven: The whole petition thing is moronic. I mean, the idea's of the petition thing a good one, but we're seriously spending money on this kinda nonsense? While the Death Star answer thing was cute, I don't particularly like the idea of paying for that cute answer. It's wasteful.

FTFM. What do you guys think? I don't post much and I like to skim the politics comments occasionally (and I don't block or ignore or highlight or anything), but I'm curious what other Farkers think (Pants full of macaroni!! aside)


TBH, I doubt there's much in the way of resources being devoted to the petition site. It makes a convenient avenue for the average Joe to get some small measure of access to the Executive Branch, and if we're going to go after government waste, there's a lot better targets.
 
2013-01-16 02:58:15 PM

LucklessWonder: Petition to lower the signature limit in 3...2...1...


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/lower-petition-count-taking- us-seriously-back-25000-signatures/cNjdpc3R
 
2013-01-16 02:59:19 PM
The White House has finally taken steps to put an end to a problem that has been plaguing this country for months now

Somebody finally waterboarded Taylor Swift?
 
2013-01-16 03:00:32 PM
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2013-01-16 03:09:46 PM
You guys know it's not the President who writes these answers, right? The only "time and money" being wasted is whatever the page/interns are paid. There's probably some guidance from higher-up, but let's be realistic here.

And if the site seems like a waste of time, that's only because idiots and assholes have decided to make it such. That's not a reason to give up, that's a reason to do what they did and make it more difficult to scam.
 
2013-01-16 03:14:41 PM

RevRaven: The whole petition thing is moronic. I mean, the idea's of the petition thing a good one, but we're seriously spending money on this kinda nonsense? While the Death Star answer thing was cute, I don't particularly like the idea of paying for that cute answer. It's wasteful.


In addition to what HeartBurnKid said, it is also a reasonably good way to come up with good ideas. Sure, there is a monumental pile of crap/snark/failed humor, but eventually something clever or useful might crop up- the diamond in the rough, so to speak. Also, I would also like to reiterate that it's unlikely much money is being devoted to this given the time it takes to reply, the actual length of the answers, and the authors thereof.
 
2013-01-16 03:18:49 PM
And yet again, people fail to understand "big" numbers. 300 million Americans, and you only were requiring 25,000 signatures for the White House to take a look? Jeez, even the Facebook chain posts are asking for at least a million likes before they do whatever stupid thing they say they're going to do. The number should probably be set around 1% of the number voting eligible people in the US.
 
2013-01-16 03:21:56 PM
5K, to 25K, to 100K. While I think the petitions site has promise, they really should pick a number and stick to it, even if it's an obscene number, like a million or something. Setting up a constantly moving target is actually not helping the transparency aspect at all, because it looks like the White house is listening, but don't like what they hear, so they'll raise the bar until all that's there is what they want to hear...
 
2013-01-16 03:25:54 PM

Sir-Marx-A-Lot: LucklessWonder: Petition to lower the signature limit in 3...2...1...

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/lower-petition-count-taking - us-seriously-back-25000-signatures/cNjdpc3R



Here's the link to change it.
http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/lower-petition-count-taking -u s-seriously-back-25000-signatures/cNjdpc3R
 
2013-01-16 03:26:08 PM
You guys are overlooking the fact that we will get no Deathstar!
 
2013-01-16 03:33:44 PM

RevRaven: RevRaven: The whole petition thing is moronic. I mean, the idea's of the petition thing a good one, but we're seriously spending money on this kinda nonsense? While the Death Star answer thing was cute, I don't particularly like the idea of paying for that cute answer. It's wasteful.

FTFM. What do you guys think? I don't post much and I like to skim the politics comments occasionally (and I don't block or ignore or highlight or anything), but I'm curious what other Farkers think (Pants full of macaroni!! aside)


I like it but don't use it. It's fairly inexpensive to maintain. Compare it to politicians who used to spend tax dollars mailing fliers to constituents. It also might allow them to gauge public sentiment. There's actually an analytics field called sentiment analysis and the Obama campaign is really into analytics. And frankly if a few hundred thousand people get to voice their outrage in public I think that's a good thing. Some people just want to be heard. the modern way to be heard is to post on the internet. I think it is not unlike emailing your congress critter or calling their office. I knew an angry dude who was obsessed with every move of our congress critter. He would email and call incessantly. If this gives him an outlet that's less obtrusive and less costly to service then great.
 
2013-01-16 03:34:01 PM
And yet ending cannabis prohibition will likely be the first to make it to that number and will be brushed aside.
 
2013-01-16 03:36:39 PM

Sir-Marx-A-Lot: LucklessWonder: Petition to lower the signature limit in 3...2...1...

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/lower-petition-count-taking - us-seriously-back-25000-signatures/cNjdpc3R


Gunny Walker: Sir-Marx-A-Lot: LucklessWonder: Petition to lower the signature limit in 3...2...1...

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/lower-petition-count-taking - us-seriously-back-25000-signatures/cNjdpc3R


Here's the link to change it.
http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/lower-petition-count-taking -u s-seriously-back-25000-signatures/cNjdpc3R


Yay! I AM a wizard!
 
2013-01-16 03:40:41 PM

Empty Matchbook: You guys know it's not the President who writes these answers, right? The only "time and money" being wasted is whatever the page/interns are paid. There's probably some guidance from higher-up, but let's be realistic here.

And if the site seems like a waste of time, that's only because idiots and assholes have decided to make it such. That's not a reason to give up, that's a reason to do what they did and make it more difficult to scam.


And they group petitions, so you'd still be able to reach the threshold with several 20k+ petitions saying basically the same thing.

However, it looks like they are cherry-picking a bit. There are a bunch of petitions around labeling the WBC as a hate group and I don't see a response to that even though there are several hundred thousand signatures. They may not be able to comment on it because it crosses the "law enforcement action" line, but they could at least say that. At the same time, they responded to a "digitizing federal records" petition that has yet to hit 3,000 signatures.

But I love their response to all the impeachment petitions.
 
2013-01-16 04:05:50 PM
Just stop it, White House!
 
2013-01-16 04:08:57 PM
Petition to raise the limit to 500 billion in one-one-thousand, two-one-thousand, three-one-thousand...
 
2013-01-16 04:10:59 PM

RevRaven: The whole petition thing is moronic. I mean, the idea's of the petition thing a good one, but we're seriously spending money on this kinda nonsense? While the Death Star answer thing was cute, I don't particularly like the idea of paying for that cute answer. It's wasteful.


Tell that to the founding fathers who made the right to petition a first amendment right. It's not like they can ignore grievances, sure they can and will tell petitioners to go take a hike, but ignore it, nope against the law. It's safe to say that the government have been receiving these types of silly petitions for centuries, it's just that now the news media is making it a story.
 
2013-01-16 04:21:00 PM
DNRTFA. Did they carpet-bomb Karl Rove finally?

*reads*

well, fark.
 
2013-01-16 05:16:58 PM
Are they administering a science test to be on the House Science Committee?

*reads*

Dammit!
 
2013-01-16 05:19:14 PM

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: Empty Matchbook: You guys know it's not the President who writes these answers, right? The only "time and money" being wasted is whatever the page/interns are paid. There's probably some guidance from higher-up, but let's be realistic here.

And if the site seems like a waste of time, that's only because idiots and assholes have decided to make it such. That's not a reason to give up, that's a reason to do what they did and make it more difficult to scam.

And they group petitions, so you'd still be able to reach the threshold with several 20k+ petitions saying basically the same thing.

However, it looks like they are cherry-picking a bit. There are a bunch of petitions around labeling the WBC as a hate group and I don't see a response to that even though there are several hundred thousand signatures. They may not be able to comment on it because it crosses the "law enforcement action" line, but they could at least say that. At the same time, they responded to a "digitizing federal records" petition that has yet to hit 3,000 signatures.

But I love their response to all the impeachment petitions.


They DID answer one of them (not really in a good position to find the link, but they essentially said "No, it's 1st Amendment protection") so that brings up other issues of people creating multiple petitions that basically say the same thing.
 
2013-01-16 05:31:15 PM
Does this mean he'll answer them? The secession ones got over 100,000. I mean what's the point of raising the limit if you don't answer every petition that reaches it?
 
2013-01-16 06:17:01 PM

g4lt: 5K, to 25K, to 100K. While I think the petitions site has promise, they really should pick a number and stick to it, even if it's an obscene number, like a million or something. Setting up a constantly moving target is actually not helping the transparency aspect at all, because it looks like the White house is listening, but don't like what they hear, so they'll raise the bar until all that's there is what they want to hear...


The 100K threshold triggers a response.  Is that what you call "listening?"
 
2013-01-16 06:28:45 PM

BarkingUnicorn: g4lt: 5K, to 25K, to 100K. While I think the petitions site has promise, they really should pick a number and stick to it, even if it's an obscene number, like a million or something. Setting up a constantly moving target is actually not helping the transparency aspect at all, because it looks like the White house is listening, but don't like what they hear, so they'll raise the bar until all that's there is what they want to hear...

The 100K threshold triggers a response.  Is that what you call "listening?"


Did you have an actual point here, or were you just flapping your gums?
 
2013-01-16 07:20:11 PM
I think its great that so many people want to participate in government decisions that they hit the "Pesky" level.

Wish we could eliminate government officials entirely and propose and vote on issues directly.

You have to start somewhere...
 
2013-01-16 08:17:09 PM

g4lt: BarkingUnicorn: g4lt: 5K, to 25K, to 100K. While I think the petitions site has promise, they really should pick a number and stick to it, even if it's an obscene number, like a million or something. Setting up a constantly moving target is actually not helping the transparency aspect at all, because it looks like the White house is listening, but don't like what they hear, so they'll raise the bar until all that's there is what they want to hear...

The 100K threshold triggers a response.  Is that what you call "listening?"

Did you have an actual point here, or were you just flapping your gums?


My point is that you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
2013-01-16 09:00:46 PM

Heraclitus: I think its great that so many people want to participate in government decisions that they hit the "Pesky" level.

Wish we could eliminate government officials entirely and propose and vote on issues directly.

You have to start somewhere...


You are seriously overestimating the judgment and the wisdom of the American people. Ask the people trying to fix California's government how they feel about the diect voice that the state's citizens have.
 
2013-01-16 09:52:16 PM

BarkingUnicorn: g4lt: BarkingUnicorn: g4lt: 5K, to 25K, to 100K. While I think the petitions site has promise, they really should pick a number and stick to it, even if it's an obscene number, like a million or something. Setting up a constantly moving target is actually not helping the transparency aspect at all, because it looks like the White house is listening, but don't like what they hear, so they'll raise the bar until all that's there is what they want to hear...

The 100K threshold triggers a response.  Is that what you call "listening?"

Did you have an actual point here, or were you just flapping your gums?

My point is that you have no idea what you're talking about.


Ahh, so you don't have a point. It is impossible for someone to not know what one is talking about, since THEY'RE THE ONE DOING THE TALKING. Go back to eating paint chips, there's adults talking.
 
2013-01-16 09:56:45 PM
It was fine until all the nutters got a hold of the site and I'm not the weedlord bonerhitlers of cyberspace. I bet churches started spamming their parishoner's inboxes with petitions after hearing about the secession petitions on Fixed Jews.
 
2013-01-16 09:58:33 PM
Issue an executive order forcing NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to return the New Orleans Saints 2nd Round Draft Pick.

This petition seeks an executive order from President Obama to return the New Orleans Saints' 2nd round selection in the 2013 NFL Draft, taken as penalty for operating a pay-for-injury reward program.

While the NFL unilaterally and unjustly levied harsh sanctions against the Saints, their investigation contained more holes than the 2012 Saints defense and was marked by faulty assumptions, mischaracterizations, and outright lies. A litany of hearings arising from the NFL's collective bargaining agreement proved this. Convicted Louisiana politicians have shown more competence.

The Saints' on-field performance directly affects the New Orleans economy. The city hasn't suffered this much since Mike Ditka was in town. Who Dat Nation asks for relief from Roger Goodell's tyranny in 2013


---------------

Seriously, I hope the FBI is taking the names of these people and putting them on various no-fly lists.
 
2013-01-16 10:00:40 PM
Here's another stupid one:


officially recognize the Sasquatch as an indigenous species and have them lawfully protected by laws banning any hunting

The Sasquatch is an indigenous species living in American forests, and should be lawfully protected from harm, including being hunted, trapped, or killed. Severe penalties should be legally enforced with fines and jail time for anyone harming, trapping, or hunting this unique rare species.
 
2013-01-16 10:26:20 PM

lilbjorn: Are they administering a science test to be on the House Science Committee?

*reads*

Dammit!


I wish. Sheila Jackson Lee was the last sane person on that committee.
 
2013-01-16 10:53:18 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Here's another stupid one:


officially recognize the Sasquatch as an indigenous species and have them lawfully protected by laws banning any hunting

The Sasquatch is an indigenous species living in American forests, and should be lawfully protected from harm, including being hunted, trapped, or killed. Severe penalties should be legally enforced with fines and jail time for anyone harming, trapping, or hunting this unique rare species.


Well, their heart's in the right place on this one, at least, and the US Fish & Wildlife Service can prolly get away with making a strong advisory to the various states' fish and games. The problem is really a technical one, that is, how do you describe a cryptozoological species with enough detail to make a law about it? ;)
 
2013-01-16 11:41:46 PM
Petition: Require that all future petitions be signed only by those who are registered voters rather than just idiots who biatch on the internet but do nothing to actually cause change.
 
2013-01-17 01:09:42 AM

WordyGrrl: Petition: Require that all future petitions be signed only by those who are registered voters rather than just idiots who biatch on the internet but do nothing to actually cause change.


Any stooge who sets foot in the DMV or a shopping mall can be a registered voter. Require that petition signers have voted in 3 of the last 4 elections, including locals and primaries. That'll trim the eligibility. Of course, that'll require a background check, but the FBI isn't that busy these days, so they won't mind.

I don't know what they expected when they created this thing in the first place. Anyone who took a look at the comments section in online newspaper articles would have realized that putting up a White House petition mechanism would be a dinner bell to the same sort of crazies, pressure groups, and Twitter-driven dullards.
 
2013-01-17 01:14:43 AM

Jake Havechek: You guys are overlooking the fact that we will get no Deathstar!


We can get 100K signatures for that in a week.
 
2013-01-17 02:54:03 AM
Yeah, I figured that was going to happen. When everything under the sun is hitting the threshold, it's about time to bump up the threshold.
 
2013-01-18 01:05:46 PM

another cultural observer: lilbjorn: Are they administering a science test to be on the House Science Committee?

*reads*

Dammit!

I wish. Sheila Jackson Lee was the last sane person on that committee.


"Jackson Lee had asked NASA officials whether the Mars Pathfinder photographed the U.S. flag that Neil Armstrong had planted on Mars" [Wikipedia]
 
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