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(Techcitement)   The best birth control in the world is: a) those army issued eyeglasses. b) seeing her mother. c) Once-a-decade injection in your scrotum   (techcitement.com) divider line 116
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2013-01-16 12:26:37 PM  
takes ten years for the pain to subside.
 
2013-01-16 01:22:16 PM  
the sperm are torn apart through the polyelectrolytic effect

Do not want in my balls!
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-01-16 01:31:57 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-16 01:33:59 PM  
A doctor applies some local anesthetic, makes a small pinhole in the base of the scrotum, reaches in with a pair of very thin forceps, and pulls out the small white vas deferens tube. Then, the doctor injects the polymer gel (called Vasalgel here in the US), pushes the vas deferens back inside, repeats the process for the other vas deferens, puts a Band-Aid over the small hole, and the man is on his way

FARK NO.
 
2013-01-16 01:37:07 PM  
$15 box of condoms looking pretty good right now.
 
2013-01-16 01:38:57 PM  
I'd rather go with the solution covered in Wired: RISUG. One time surgery, but reversible anytime, unlike this one.
 
2013-01-16 01:42:06 PM  
Vasectomy. Best and worst 15 minutes of my life.
 
2013-01-16 01:42:32 PM  
Ya know, cool that birth control options are available for men, too, but why can't we get something like a pill or a patch?

While this seems safer than getting snipped, I dunno.... I'd have to be knocked unconscious for this procedure. There is no way I'd be able to be awake and have someone do this, and not have assault charges filed against me.
 
2013-01-16 01:44:31 PM  

dj_spanmaster: I'd rather go with the solution covered in Wired: RISUG. One time surgery, but reversible anytime, unlike this one.



Do you know how I know you didn't read the article?

/hint: its the same procedure you're linking
//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibition_of_sperm_under_g u idance
 
2013-01-16 01:45:12 PM  
My vasectomy works just fine.
 
2013-01-16 01:46:14 PM  
The best birth control most farkers have is their personalities and hygiene habits.
 
2013-01-16 01:46:47 PM  

dj_spanmaster: I'd rather go with the solution covered in Wired: RISUG. One time surgery, but reversible anytime, unlike this one.


Know how I know you didn't read TFA?

"The procedure called RISUG in India (reversible inhibition of sperm under guidance) takes about 15 minutes with a doctor, is effective after about three days, and lasts for 10 or more years"
 
2013-01-16 01:47:04 PM  
Every 10 years? TOO OFTEN!

dj_spanmaster: I'd rather go with the solution covered in Wired: RISUG. One time surgery, but reversible anytime, unlike this one.


There is a NSFW image of a yam-bag on that page.
 
2013-01-16 01:47:22 PM  

Rann Xerox: My vasectomy works just fine.


What comes out now? Confetti? The filling in an Oreo? The secret sauce on a Big Mac? I'm legitimately curious, but don't want to GIS.
 
2013-01-16 01:47:25 PM  

Cyber_Junk: dj_spanmaster: I'd rather go with the solution covered in Wired: RISUG. One time surgery, but reversible anytime, unlike this one.


Do you know how I know you didn't read the article?

/hint: its the same procedure you're linking
//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibition_of_sperm_under_g u idance


Curse you!

/shakes fist
 
2013-01-16 01:48:50 PM  

dj_spanmaster: I'd rather go with the solution covered in Wired: RISUG. One time surgery, but reversible anytime, unlike this one.


This is the same procedure, just with a fancy name.

Looks like a winner compared to the traditional vasectomy. Wish they'd had this 10 years ago.
 
2013-01-16 01:50:31 PM  

SkylineRecords: Rann Xerox: My vasectomy works just fine.

What comes out now? Confetti? The filling in an Oreo? The secret sauce on a Big Mac? I'm legitimately curious, but don't want to GIS.


Sperm is only like 1-5% of the total package (IIRC). The rest is seminal fluid.
 
2013-01-16 01:52:07 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-16 01:52:26 PM  
The snip is one of the best things I ever did.

//TMI, I know.
 
2013-01-16 01:53:45 PM  
uhh...how does this truly prevent HIV as TFA or linking FA infers?

Just because you're getting rid of HIV infected sperm...doesn't mean you can't get it otherwise.


/confused
 
2013-01-16 01:56:05 PM  
Many, many Totalfarkers would very happily say that the best birth control in the world is to be likefunbutnot.
 
2013-01-16 01:57:44 PM  

meat0918: The snip is one of the best things I ever did.

//TMI, I know.


This.

I called in sick on a Friday morning, had the snip done (via the no-scalpel method), held down the couch Saturday and part of Sunday, went back to work Monday. I think I took one Aleve because of the general tenderness. That was 8 years ago.
 
2013-01-16 02:01:43 PM  
Cyber_JunkDingleberry Dickwad:

My shoddy reading comprehension skills, exposed!

It's less that I didn't read this one at all, and more that I skimmed it and mis-remembered the Wired article, in which I thought it was a small tube installed/removed.
 
2013-01-16 02:02:43 PM  

RoxtarRyan: Ya know, cool that birth control options are available for men, too, but why can't we get something like a pill or a patch?

While this seems safer than getting snipped, I dunno.... I'd have to be knocked unconscious for this procedure. There is no way I'd be able to be awake and have someone do this, and not have assault charges filed against me.


We can't have that because we suck at remembering to take pills or use a patch.
 
2013-01-16 02:03:30 PM  

DarthBart: meat0918: The snip is one of the best things I ever did.

//TMI, I know.

This.

I called in sick on a Friday morning, had the snip done (via the no-scalpel method), held down the couch Saturday and part of Sunday, went back to work Monday. I think I took one Aleve because of the general tenderness. That was 8 years ago.


yep. 4 years ago here, same story. would do it again if I had to.
 
2013-01-16 02:05:29 PM  

SkylineRecords: Rann Xerox: My vasectomy works just fine.

What comes out now? Confetti? The filling in an Oreo? The secret sauce on a Big Mac? I'm legitimately curious, but don't want to GIS.


It's the same gunk, just no tadpoles.
 
2013-01-16 02:05:58 PM  

DarthBart: meat0918: The snip is one of the best things I ever did.

//TMI, I know.

This.

I called in sick on a Friday morning, had the snip done (via the no-scalpel method), held down the couch Saturday and part of Sunday, went back to work Monday. I think I took one Aleve because of the general tenderness. That was 8 years ago.


1. Does insurance cover it? What about for single people?
2. How bad is the "general tenderness"? When I sprained my knee, I was confined to a recliner for 3 days, only walking to the bathroom (which the doc said I shouldn't do, but I didn't have a cane handy), but it didn't hurt much when I was sitting still. Will my boys be achy - and if so, more or less so than after a, shall we say, "spirited weekend with the ladyfriend"?
3. How reversible/effective is it? I know vasectomies these days mostly are reversible, and that most of their partners don't end up pregnant (0% of men with vasectomies reported being pregnant after the procedure, too), but are we talking a The-Pill-esque 99+% effective?
4. How long would I be out of commission? Just those 2-3 days, or is there a "no farking until month 4" rule that no one talks about?

// remembering an ex's IUD's getting-to-know-you period, is there any hormonal imbalance to be expected?
// I'd guess not, since you're not farking with anything endocrine, production-wise
 
2013-01-16 02:06:41 PM  
Injection? Maybe...
"reaches in with a pair of very thin forceps, and pulls out the small white vas deferens tube?"

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2013-01-16 02:10:13 PM  

Andy Andy: DarthBart: meat0918: The snip is one of the best things I ever did.

//TMI, I know.

This.

I called in sick on a Friday morning, had the snip done (via the no-scalpel method), held down the couch Saturday and part of Sunday, went back to work Monday. I think I took one Aleve because of the general tenderness. That was 8 years ago.

yep. 4 years ago here, same story. would do it again if I had to.


5 or 6 years ago, blocked it out. Done on a Friday, bag of frozen peas and a bottle of Vicodin Saturday, milked the sympathy through Sunday, back to work on Monday.

JC
 
2013-01-16 02:10:42 PM  
so for all the people saying nope, you realize that it's actually less intrusive than a vascectomy, right? It's the same procedure up until the point where the doctor either injects some plastic goo into the tube and tucks it back away, or CUTS IT IN HALF AND TIES A KNOT IN IT.
 
2013-01-16 02:14:25 PM  

PirateKing: so for all the people saying nope, you realize that it's actually less intrusive than a vascectomy, right? It's the same procedure up until the point where the doctor either injects some plastic goo into the tube and tucks it back away, or CUTS IT IN HALF AND TIES A KNOT IN IT.


Yes? It's nice to see they're making advancements, but to clarify, double NOPE.
 
2013-01-16 02:16:43 PM  
Could we make this mandatory for anyone that refuses to make their child support payments?

" When your check clears from County Court, we'll turn your junk back on."
 
2013-01-16 02:19:42 PM  
I'm sure there are plenty of men who'd rather their women use serial abortions as birth control than even consider such a harmless thing.
 
2013-01-16 02:21:16 PM  
This sounds awesome. Sign me up!
 
2013-01-16 02:25:59 PM  
I just had my vasectomy this past Friday, so my nads are really getting a kick...

Dr Dreidel:
1. Does insurance cover it? What about for single people?
2. How bad is the "general tenderness"? When I sprained my knee, I was confined to a recliner for 3 days, only walking to the bathroom (which the doc said I shouldn't do, but I didn't have a cane handy), but it didn't hurt much when I was sitting still. Will my boys be achy - and if so, more or less so than after a, shall we say, "spirited weekend with the ladyfriend"?
3. How reversible/effective is it? I know vasectomies these days mostly are reversible, and that most of their partners don't end up pregnant (0% of men with vasectomies reported being pregnant after the procedure, too), but are we talking a The-Pill-esque 99+% effective?
4. How long would I be out of commission? Just those 2-3 days, or is there a "no farking until month 4" rule that no one talks about?

// remembering an ex's IUD's getting-to-know-you period, is there any hormonal imbalance to be expected?
// I'd guess not, since you're not farking with anything endocrine, production-wise


1. My insurance did. Depends on the company. Give them a call. It might be listed under "voluntary sterilization". It's an in-office procedure, though, so it's pretty quick and cheap for them to approve. All told, I will be spending 100 bucks (2 copays, one of which was the sit down chat of "Are you really really sure?")
2. When I went, they gave me a script for Vicodin. I didn't even consider getting it filled. The doctor said most people don't. Didn't take any Tylenol or anything like that. I guess the best way I can describe it for me was it was like getting tapped kinda hard in the nads, constantly, for the first couple days, and then a reminder tap when you get up after laying down/sitting for a bit, as well as soreness if they get jostled. Definitely moreso than if you balled your brains out for the weekend.
3. Reversibility is going up, but there's all sorts of gotchas, and insurance typically WON'T pay for a reversal and I was told they are pretty expensive. My doctor said "It's $26 an hour just for you to sit in the OR all by yourself. That's not counting the operating surgeon, the equipment, or anything else." They say to consider it permanent. Effectiveness is supposed to be great, though (assuming they don't spontaneously reconnect, but measures are taken to make sure that doesn't happen).
4. The paperwork I got said no banging for 5 days, provided "testicular swelling has subsided". Right now my nads say "If you plan on going all out on the 5th day, we're packing our shiat and getting out of here."

Since I am literally JUST recovering now, the slight bruising and swelling is a bit of a novelty. "Blue balls" is literal. The minor ache is something I can't wait to completely subside.

I see all these comments about it being the "best thing" they have ever done. Does anyone out there REGRET getting it? Personally, the relative permanence of the procedure and the possibility of changing my mind in the future has me a little uneasy.

I think we can all agree that the shot or whatever in the spermatic cord SUCKS, though. Like getting kicked in the balls from the inside...
 
2013-01-16 02:26:43 PM  
Really, really tempting.

I'm okay with condoms, but my wife doesn't like them much (strange but true). They also aren't anywhere near 100%.

The more-permanent vasectomy route has been discussed. But, I'd actually kinda like a kid, she doesn't. We've compromised to 'it probably won't happen', but it seems insane for me to cut off the option permanently.

All the hormonal options have lead to virtually zero libido issues on her end. Like they do for many women. Probably more than report it even... one side-effect of a low libido is not wanting a libido. Some argue that post-Pill-era couples have half the sex of pre-Pill-era couples, despite all the talk about sex, and the marked drop in libido due to hormonal BC is why.

I'm willing to give it a try.
 
2013-01-16 02:27:25 PM  

WickerNipple: I'm sure there are plenty of men who'd rather their women use serial abortions as birth control than even consider such a harmless thing.


Given that hormones are the number one choice for semi-permanent birth control and can seriously f*ck with a woman's body, and that a secondary option is JAMMING A COPPER DEVICE IN YOUR CERVIX, I personally say "Boohoo to all you men who wouldn't consider it.  You're goddamned pansies."
 
2013-01-16 02:32:11 PM  
The Farkers in this thread who are saying NOPE are very likely the same Farkers who show up in child support threads to bash the woman.
 
2013-01-16 02:34:10 PM  
The husband and I are considering a vasectomy, as we have absolutely no interest in children. However, we're still working out way through grad school and that just might (slim chance) change ten years or less down the road. The reversal stats on a vasectomy don't look awful until it's been five or so years since the procedure.

Something like this would be great, if it works as advertised. As a (soon to be) polymer scientist, the concept looks pretty good. Styrene maleic anhydride is an almost perfectly alternating copolymer of styrene and maleic anhydride. It's nicely soluble in basic solutions (like the sodium bicarbonate solution they would use to remove the gel), but is otherwise very chemically and thermally stable. The DMSO is just a solvent that lets the gel get into position, then your body can excrete it.

It would be so nice not to be on the pill, or have plastic or metal in my uterus, or have inpatient surgery to get the tubes tied. Something like this would be so very much easier. I'll be keeping an eye on this.
 
2013-01-16 02:35:59 PM  

UnrepentantApostate: The husband and I are considering a vasectomy, as we have absolutely no interest in children. However, we're still working out way through grad school and that just might (slim chance) change ten years or less down the road. The reversal stats on a vasectomy don't look awful until it's been five or so years since the procedure.

Something like this would be great, if it works as advertised. As a (soon to be) polymer scientist, the concept looks pretty good. Styrene maleic anhydride is an almost perfectly alternating copolymer of styrene and maleic anhydride. It's nicely soluble in basic solutions (like the sodium bicarbonate solution they would use to remove the gel), but is otherwise very chemically and thermally stable. The DMSO is just a solvent that lets the gel get into position, then your body can excrete it.

It would be so nice not to be on the pill, or have plastic or metal in my uterus, or have inpatient surgery to get the tubes tied. Something like this would be so very much easier. I'll be keeping an eye on this.


Still found this less invasive than the pill.  It hurts occasionally, but I no longer cry on the bathroom floor for no reason.
 
2013-01-16 02:36:21 PM  

Dr Dreidel: DarthBart: meat0918: The snip is one of the best things I ever did.

//TMI, I know.

This.

I called in sick on a Friday morning, had the snip done (via the no-scalpel method), held down the couch Saturday and part of Sunday, went back to work Monday. I think I took one Aleve because of the general tenderness. That was 8 years ago.

1. Does insurance cover it? What about for single people?
2. How bad is the "general tenderness"? When I sprained my knee, I was confined to a recliner for 3 days, only walking to the bathroom (which the doc said I shouldn't do, but I didn't have a cane handy), but it didn't hurt much when I was sitting still. Will my boys be achy - and if so, more or less so than after a, shall we say, "spirited weekend with the ladyfriend"?
3. How reversible/effective is it? I know vasectomies these days mostly are reversible, and that most of their partners don't end up pregnant (0% of men with vasectomies reported being pregnant after the procedure, too), but are we talking a The-Pill-esque 99+% effective?
4. How long would I be out of commission? Just those 2-3 days, or is there a "no farking until month 4" rule that no one talks about?

// remembering an ex's IUD's getting-to-know-you period, is there any hormonal imbalance to be expected?
// I'd guess not, since you're not farking with anything endocrine, production-wise


Feminist groups in the US have been lobbying to keep male birth control (pills/shots) off of the market in the US. I am dead serious. Evidently it oppresses woman for men to have the same reproductive options/rights as women.
 
2013-01-16 02:39:06 PM  
Agree. NOPE. I'll keep my vasectomy too. Fifteen minutes on the table. Done in one trip. Back to work after the weekend. Nothing to worry about.
 
2013-01-16 02:40:34 PM  
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2013-01-16 02:41:44 PM  

farsidius: Agree. NOPE. I'll keep my vasectomy too. Fifteen minutes on the table. Done in one trip. Back to work after the weekend. Nothing to worry about.


As opposed to 15 minutes on the table, done in one trip, with no scalpels involved? This is done almost exactly the same way as a vasectomy, except there are no blades used on the vas deferens, only a needle. Recovery is faster with this gel than with a vasectomy, and the gel allows fluid through so you don't get any pressure buildup like you can get after a vasectomy.
 
2013-01-16 02:43:34 PM  

genepool lifeboat: Vasectomy. Best and worst 15 minutes of my life.


Nah, the procedure itself didn't really hurt because you are numb, but the next week or two can be a little sensitive. When I got mine I was riding a motorcycle to work. I made the mistake of trying to ride in after only a week. Boy did I pay for that one.
 
2013-01-16 02:55:22 PM  

PrivateCaboose: WickerNipple: I'm sure there are plenty of men who'd rather their women use serial abortions as birth control than even consider such a harmless thing.

Given that hormones are the number one choice for semi-permanent birth control and can seriously f*ck with a woman's body, and that a secondary option is JAMMING A COPPER DEVICE IN YOUR CERVIX, I personally say "Boohoo to all you men who wouldn't consider it.  You're goddamned pansies."


I would smack my distended nut satchel with a croquet mallet if it meant my SO was health and had a health libido. Vasectomy? Where do I sign?
Of course, to be so motivated, I would actually need an SO. All you available Farkettes can leave me your resume. EIP.
 
2013-01-16 02:57:25 PM  

Pincy: genepool lifeboat: Vasectomy. Best and worst 15 minutes of my life.

Nah, the procedure itself didn't really hurt because you are numb, but the next week or two can be a little sensitive. When I got mine I was riding a motorcycle to work. I made the mistake of trying to ride in after only a week. Boy did I pay for that one.


I never realized how much the boys bounced around until after my procedure. Just walking up and down the stairs became an experience.

/I highly recommend frozen peas and a jock strap for the recovery period.
 
2013-01-16 03:15:38 PM  
Question for all the other guys with vasectomies out there: How long does the bruising last? My bruising didn't start until maybe 36 hours after, and shows no signs of stopping 5 days later. Am I developing a bloodbean? Should I go all Stand By Me on it?

//LEECHES!
//Only my initial question is sincere
//Apologies for the leeches flashback
 
2013-01-16 03:20:40 PM  
PrivateCaboose: It hurts occasionally, but I no longer cry on the bathroom floor for no reason.

What a coincidence!  I said exactly the same thing after I quit drinking tequila.
 
2013-01-16 03:23:58 PM  

Incremancer: Question for all the other guys with vasectomies out there: How long does the bruising last? My bruising didn't start until maybe 36 hours after, and shows no signs of stopping 5 days later. Am I developing a bloodbean? Should I go all Stand By Me on it?


I have not had one of these procedures done, but if my frank and/or beans were bruised for 8 days after surgery, I'd be considering the ER if the doctor couldn't squeeze me in.
 
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