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2013-01-16 08:42:27 AM  
And it took less than a day for Fox and subby to start in with the "see we told ya" postings that mean absolutely nothing.
 
2013-01-16 08:43:01 AM  
Subby, stop being an ass.
 
2013-01-16 08:44:36 AM  
Dictator Andrew Cuomo needs to be impeached, tried, convicted and sentenced to prison. Cuomo is the Anti-Christ. Cuomo is Adolf Hitler!!! Cuomo...GO DIAF!!!!!
 
2013-01-16 08:44:41 AM  
You're jackass, subby.
 
2013-01-16 08:45:26 AM  
FTFA: "It it not clear what the victims' relationship is as they have the same last name."

www.reactionface.info
 
2013-01-16 08:46:03 AM  

Frizbone: Dictator Andrew Cuomo needs to be impeached, tried, convicted and sentenced to prison. Cuomo is the Anti-Christ. Cuomo is Adolf Hitler!!! Cuomo...GO DIAF!!!!!


don't sugar coat it... tell us how you really feel.
 
2013-01-16 08:47:12 AM  
If we give these laws more time, we will see a substantial drop in gun crimes. Right, guys?

/Not going to happen.
 
2013-01-16 08:47:22 AM  
The laws are not really expected to do anything subby except show the sheep that their political shepherds are doing "something".
 
2013-01-16 08:47:46 AM  
No one is saying we should ban all latinos. Just those 30 or under! Certainly would have saved these two.
 
2013-01-16 08:48:39 AM  
DEY TERK ER GNSSSS
 
2013-01-16 08:50:07 AM  

The Angry Hand of God: If we give these laws more time, we will see a substantial drop in gun crimes. Right, guys?

/Not going to happen.


Don't think anyone ever said that, it really seems only focused on mass shootings. It only bans assault weapons and high capacity clips. Pistols will still be everywhere.

Still, is that a bad thing? I don't understand why the constant refrain from gun lovers is "if it doesn't solve everything, then don't bother."
 
2013-01-16 08:50:27 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: FTFA: "It it not clear what the victims' relationship is as they have the same last name."

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I share my surname with like 80 million people around the world - and I have several friends who share my surname, but that doesn't mean we're all related.
 
2013-01-16 08:50:49 AM  
wild pigs cannot be hindered by surprise legislation.
 
2013-01-16 08:52:11 AM  

spacelord321: No one is saying we should ban all latinos. Just those 30 or under! Certainly would have saved these two.


What if we banned all minorities? Imagine the drops in violent crime! Then, rednecks.
 
2013-01-16 08:53:26 AM  
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2013-01-16 08:58:02 AM  

Moosecakes: The Angry Hand of God: If we give these laws more time, we will see a substantial drop in gun crimes. Right, guys?

/Not going to happen.

Don't think anyone ever said that, it really seems only focused on mass shootings. It only bans assault weapons and high capacity clips. Pistols will still be everywhere.

Still, is that a bad thing? I don't understand why the constant refrain from gun lovers is "if it doesn't solve everything, then don't bother."


The point is that if you are doing something, or own something, that fits the definition of "keeping and bearing arms," the Constitution says that you are within your rights to do/own that thing. What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you people understand?
 
2013-01-16 08:58:11 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Frizbone: Dictator Andrew Cuomo needs to be impeached, tried, convicted and sentenced to prison. Cuomo is the Anti-Christ. Cuomo is Adolf Hitler!!! Cuomo...GO DIAF!!!!!

don't sugar coat it... tell us how you really feel.


Well, say what you will, at least this one's using his words.  Or...  Trying to use his words.  We should give him a gold star or something, shouldn't we?
 
2013-01-16 09:01:30 AM  
Literally EVERY SINGLE PERSON who actually thought that would produce 0 shootings the very first day is a Harungulous Gramulnch.

/nobody thought that at all.
 
2013-01-16 09:03:00 AM  
It's those no guns signs. To be effective they should not be color copied or from a printer. To work they must be of the plastic kind, professionally screen printed.
And gun-free zones. Those surely work to eliminate the guns in public places.
 
2013-01-16 09:04:53 AM  
Au contraire....it has given us this first, most excellent opportunity to discuss the issue with reasonableness and gravity....

I make myself laugh...and probably no one else.....
 
2013-01-16 09:05:45 AM  

DrPainMD: Moosecakes: The Angry Hand of God: If we give these laws more time, we will see a substantial drop in gun crimes. Right, guys?

/Not going to happen.

Don't think anyone ever said that, it really seems only focused on mass shootings. It only bans assault weapons and high capacity clips. Pistols will still be everywhere.

Still, is that a bad thing? I don't understand why the constant refrain from gun lovers is "if it doesn't solve everything, then don't bother."

The point is that if you are doing something, or own something, that fits the definition of "keeping and bearing arms," the Constitution says that you are within your rights to do/own that thing. What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you people understand?


What part of well regulated militia don't you understand?
 
2013-01-16 09:08:26 AM  

homelessdude: And it took less than a day for Fox and subby to start in with the "see we told ya" postings that mean absolutely nothing.


The 'see we told you so' postings go in both directions.

Someone will come in here, or in another thread, and post some 'evidence' supporting how a law lessened gun violence, and it too will mean nothing.

People are sick. Fix them, and then maybe the problem will be solved.
 
2013-01-16 09:08:47 AM  
2 people in the same car with gunshot wounds to the head. Why were they taken to different hospitals?
 
2013-01-16 09:09:03 AM  

johnryan51: DrPainMD: Moosecakes: The Angry Hand of God: If we give these laws more time, we will see a substantial drop in gun crimes. Right, guys?

/Not going to happen.

Don't think anyone ever said that, it really seems only focused on mass shootings. It only bans assault weapons and high capacity clips. Pistols will still be everywhere.

Still, is that a bad thing? I don't understand why the constant refrain from gun lovers is "if it doesn't solve everything, then don't bother."

The point is that if you are doing something, or own something, that fits the definition of "keeping and bearing arms," the Constitution says that you are within your rights to do/own that thing. What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you people understand?

What part of well regulated militia don't you understand?


"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress shall have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American ... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the People."
- Tench Coxe, 1788.

"How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things have been like if every police operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? If during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever was at hand? The organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt."
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prize winner and author of The Gulag Archipelago, who spent 11 years in Soviet concentration camps.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-16 09:09:12 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: FTFA: "It it not clear what the victims' relationship is as they have the same last name."

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2 dead, 20 dead, who cares they both have 2 in them, right?

Even if gun control didn't work I would be for it just to piss off the gun nuts.
 
2013-01-16 09:09:56 AM  
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-16 09:10:11 AM  

The Angry Hand of God: If we give these laws more time, we will see a substantial drop in gun crimes. Right, guys?


Yep.

/Has already happened.
 
2013-01-16 09:11:47 AM  
Yesterday it was illegal to murder someone in New York.

Today it's SUPER DUPER illegal to murder someone in New York.

How come people are still getting murdered in New York?
 
2013-01-16 09:12:27 AM  

johnryan51: DrPainMD: Moosecakes: The Angry Hand of God: If we give these laws more time, we will see a substantial drop in gun crimes. Right, guys?

/Not going to happen.

Don't think anyone ever said that, it really seems only focused on mass shootings. It only bans assault weapons and high capacity clips. Pistols will still be everywhere.

Still, is that a bad thing? I don't understand why the constant refrain from gun lovers is "if it doesn't solve everything, then don't bother."

The point is that if you are doing something, or own something, that fits the definition of "keeping and bearing arms," the Constitution says that you are within your rights to do/own that thing. What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you people understand?

What part of well regulated militia don't you understand?


"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Why is it that the Second Amendment is only one sentence, yet gun nuts only quote the "right to keep and bear arms" part? We don't have militias anymore. We have the Army, Airforce, Navy and Marine Corps. We even have the National Guard. If you want to have a rifle designed to kill multiple human beings, enlist in the Army. But you should realize that they don't let you take your M16 home, because you don't need it there.
 
2013-01-16 09:12:53 AM  

Moosecakes: The Angry Hand of God: If we give these laws more time, we will see a substantial drop in gun crimes. Right, guys?

/Not going to happen.

Don't think anyone ever said that, it really seems only focused on mass shootings. It only bans assault weapons and high capacity clips. Pistols will still be everywhere.

Still, is that a bad thing? I don't understand why the constant refrain from gun lovers is "if it doesn't solve everything, then don't bother."


Sometimes the best course of action is simply to do nothing and realize you cannot legislate away crazy. For a nation of 300000000 guns only a small insignificant fraction are used improperly. Yet, we keep trying the same tired shiat that doesn't work and is burdensome to those who have done nothing wrong apart from owning something that the constitution allows you to own.

Also, a 1775 flintlock has a bayonet mount, it is now illegal to own in New York because it is an "assault rifle." Pointless legislation like this is pointless but makes politicians feel good to maintain control.
 
2013-01-16 09:14:09 AM  

johnryan51: DrPainMD: Moosecakes: The Angry Hand of God: If we give these laws more time, we will see a substantial drop in gun crimes. Right, guys?

/Not going to happen.

Don't think anyone ever said that, it really seems only focused on mass shootings. It only bans assault weapons and high capacity clips. Pistols will still be everywhere.

Still, is that a bad thing? I don't understand why the constant refrain from gun lovers is "if it doesn't solve everything, then don't bother."

The point is that if you are doing something, or own something, that fits the definition of "keeping and bearing arms," the Constitution says that you are within your rights to do/own that thing. What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you people understand?

What part of well regulated militia don't you understand?


None. The founding fathers intended for the people to have the ability to create a militia if needed. That ability requires private citizens to be well equipped at all times. One of us failed history. Hint: it wasn't me.
 
2013-01-16 09:17:12 AM  
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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"The second amendment is bullsquirt!" It is outdated like the rest of the constitution. You gun nuts should all have your names and addresses posted so everyone can see where you live. Yes I know that would include retired police and ex-military but its for the greater good. Bow down to me!

/Cuomo bless America

/sarcasm off

What an asshat. Glad I live in Florida.
 
2013-01-16 09:18:13 AM  

hasty ambush: A Tale of Two States:

Woman Raped in Queens Home Invasion, Police Say


Dallas Woman Shoots 2 Intruders


Right because a single sensational story makes a good argument for a nationwide policy.

Texas woman shoots husband over cat
 
2013-01-16 09:19:59 AM  

vpb: The Angry Hand of God: If we give these laws more time, we will see a substantial drop in gun crimes. Right, guys?

Yep.

/Has already happened.


Right. Chicago anyone?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-16 09:20:11 AM  

hasty ambush: A Tale of Two States:


Soldier shot and killed in Texas.

Police arrest 6 and recover 6 guns used in roberies in New York.
 
2013-01-16 09:20:45 AM  
You mean to tell, criminals don't follow the law?
 
2013-01-16 09:22:11 AM  

vpb: HindiDiscoMonster: FTFA: "It it not clear what the victims' relationship is as they have the same last name."

[www.reactionface.info image 273x283]

2 dead, 20 dead, who cares they both have 2 in them, right?

Even if gun control didn't work I would be for it just to piss off the gun nuts.


www.empowernetwork.com
 
2013-01-16 09:22:47 AM  

Vodka Zombie: HindiDiscoMonster: Frizbone: Dictator Andrew Cuomo needs to be impeached, tried, convicted and sentenced to prison. Cuomo is the Anti-Christ. Cuomo is Adolf Hitler!!! Cuomo...GO DIAF!!!!!

don't sugar coat it... tell us how you really feel.

Well, say what you will, at least this one's using his words.  Or...  Trying to use his words.  We should give him a gold star or something, shouldn't we?


good point... why don't you give it to him... i am all out at this end.
 
2013-01-16 09:23:28 AM  

Ironman273: 2 people in the same car with gunshot wounds to the head. Why were they taken to different hospitals?


divide and conquer?
 
2013-01-16 09:23:43 AM  

homelessdude: And it took less than a day for Fox and subby to start in with the "see we told ya" postings that mean absolutely nothing.


Tip: local news channels that go by "Fox" are not affiliated with Fox News.
 
2013-01-16 09:25:54 AM  
WHAT? I'M OUTRAGED!! OUTRAGED I SAY!

MOAR LAWS!! MOAR LAWS!!!


This is a solid single data point argument cementing the fact that guns should be retroactively outlawed as of 50 years ago.

Polish up the Delorean and fire up the flux capacitor!

Tell you what morans, I'm loving this.
 
2013-01-16 09:28:07 AM  
I think the new law only makes a difference to detectives trying to figure out how many guns were used or did they reload. Well, only if the crooks obeyed the new law because that is what criminals do; obey new laws.
 
2013-01-16 09:28:08 AM  

Ironman273: 2 people in the same car with gunshot wounds to the head. Why were they taken to different hospitals?


This.
 
2013-01-16 09:28:22 AM  
Always amused by the people who say Cuomo's doing this to burnish his credentials for a Presidential run in 2016. Newsflash, folks: if his dad decided he had too many skeletons in the closet to make a run on the WH, what makes you think his son is going to do it too?
 
2013-01-16 09:28:50 AM  

tylerdurden217: hasty ambush: A Tale of Two States:

Woman Raped in Queens Home Invasion, Police Say


Dallas Woman Shoots 2 Intruders

Right because a single sensational story makes a good argument for a nationwide policy.

Texas woman shoots husband over cat


well... it was a fabulous cat...

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2013-01-16 09:33:22 AM  
The nice thing about this is that the NY police now have another throwdown gun to use to frame an innocent civilian, so that's nice.

I said nice twice..

MOAR LAWS!!!
 
2013-01-16 09:34:03 AM  

johnryan51: DrPainMD: What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you people understand?

What part of well regulated militia don't you understand?


It's almost like we've had this EXACT same disagreement a billion farking times in the last few weeks here. Many times in the same goddamned thread. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

That couldn't be though, could it?
 
2013-01-16 09:34:32 AM  

meatsack_01: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


"The second amendment is bullsquirt!" It is outdated like the rest of the constitution. You gun nuts should all have your names and addresses posted so everyone can see where you live. Yes I know that would include retired police and ex-military but its for the greater good. Bow down to me!

/Cuomo bless America

/sarcasm off

What an asshat. Glad I live in Florida.


So are we.
 
2013-01-16 09:36:32 AM  

homelessdude: And it took less than a day for Fox and subby to start in with the "see we told ya" postings that mean absolutely nothing.


Actually, as a gun-less libertarian, I look forward to sweeping gun control laws. Because when the next basement dwelling shiatbag grabs his parents' gun and decides to go CoD on the first person that deprived him of an iPad, I want to watch the years to come of republicans saying "see, no need for control" and the liberals saying "see, outlaw guns entirely".

It's like Abortion, gay marriage, gun control. You'll never change someone else's mind, so why bother. Live your life and hope you manage to outlive your kids.
 
2013-01-16 09:36:32 AM  

GanjSmokr: johnryan51: DrPainMD: What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you people understand?

What part of well regulated militia don't you understand?

It's almost like we've had this EXACT same disagreement a billion farking times in the last few weeks here. Many times in the same goddamned thread. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

That couldn't be though, could it?


i88.photobucket.com?
 
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