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(NBC News)   Well, of course Google's flashlight app is tracking your location. What the hell else did you expect?   (redtape.nbcnews.com) divider line 79
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-16 08:31:15 AM  
You could use a phone that gives users line item veto of app permissions. (At the risk of being ostracized by your former friends.)
 
2013-01-16 08:40:18 AM  
It's not Google's app. It's an app that some random dude wrote on and released on the Android Play Store. There are no Google Flashlight Apps.
 
2013-01-16 08:41:34 AM  

ZAZ: You could use a phone that gives users line item veto of app permissions. (At the risk of being ostracized by your former friends.)


I thought the iphone did.  I get a window that pops up, asks me if this app can use location services.  I always hit 'don't allow'.

Am I totes wrong? AM I BEING TRACKED??
 
2013-01-16 08:48:15 AM  

hillbillypharmacist: ZAZ: You could use a phone that gives users line item veto of app permissions. (At the risk of being ostracized by your former friends.)

I thought the iphone did.  I get a window that pops up, asks me if this app can use location services.  I always hit 'don't allow'.

Am I totes wrong? AM I BEING TRACKED??


No, of course not. Stop being paranoid. And sit up straight for a change, we've noticed you always slouch.
 
2013-01-16 09:09:58 AM  
I have Google Maps. Of course I'm being tracked.

Google knows where I live. Google knows where I work. Google knows where my kids play soccer and where we get pizza. They even know what's in my email.

I'm sure there's some guy in Mountain View, CA sitting at his desk saying: "Hey guys! Come check this out!  Demetrius is at his job right now!"

I could give up all the cool things that Google and Android do for me, or I can realize that no one really gives a shiat about what I do and ignore the things they try to market to me because they have some info on me.  I'll take Google's marketing to me over the shiat-ton of other marketing stuff that I get in my mailbox every day that goes straight into the trash.  Those people know a ton about me too.
 
2013-01-16 09:10:44 AM  
Where on the cloud does the flashlight app post the pics it takes?
 
2013-01-16 09:12:27 AM  
Just put the Data Enable/Disable toggle button right on the main screen. Enable when you want to do stuff, and Disable before you put it away. And while your at it, sign up for a lower data package. You'd be surprised at how little you end up using.
 
2013-01-16 09:12:29 AM  
What better way for researchers construct a map of places that are dark?
 
2013-01-16 09:13:32 AM  

Demetrius: I have Google Maps. Of course I'm being tracked.

Google knows where I live. Google knows where I work. Google knows where my kids play soccer and where we get pizza. They even know what's in my email.

I'm sure there's some guy in Mountain View, CA sitting at his desk saying: "Hey guys! Come check this out!  Demetrius is at his job right now!"

I could give up all the cool things that Google and Android do for me, or I can realize that no one really gives a shiat about what I do and ignore the things they try to market to me because they have some info on me.  I'll take Google's marketing to me over the shiat-ton of other marketing stuff that I get in my mailbox every day that goes straight into the trash.  Those people know a ton about me too.


Quit posting while you're in the can.
 
2013-01-16 09:14:47 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Where on the cloud does the flashlight app post the pics it takes?


That would be a real shiat storm - use the flashlight app and it takes a picture every couple of seconds...
 
2013-01-16 09:14:54 AM  
As much as I love to don my tinfoil hat and shout at strangers about the evils of Google, is that even Google's flashlight app? Or is it Some Dude's flashlight app?
 
2013-01-16 09:15:01 AM  

Nem Wan: What better way for researchers construct a map of places that are dark?


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-16 09:15:53 AM  
Google?

An email sent to the contact address at BrightestFlashlight.com wasn't returned. The website lists no contact phone number.

Ah not google, a 3rd party app, I'm shocked!
 
2013-01-16 09:16:56 AM  
Who gives a fark? When the developer who codes `Virtual Whoopi Cushion' starts knocking on my door because I downloaded his app  one day then I'll start giving a shiat about tracking.

Overreacting assholes. Who gives a shiat.
 
2013-01-16 09:18:13 AM  

RexTalionis: It's not Google's app. It's an app that some random dude wrote on and released on the Android Play Store. There are no Google Flashlight Apps.


Intelligent journalism? On my Internet? Get outta here.
 
2013-01-16 09:19:39 AM  
Well, the government has to have a way to find you when they come to take all of your evil guns away.

If you haven't had your tracking chip implanted yet (flu shot), then Google will most certainly sell you out.
 
2013-01-16 09:20:03 AM  
I'll chalk it up to lazy programming. Probably included every module by default when developing the app.
 
2013-01-16 09:24:41 AM  
Wait until you see what you agreed to in the terms of service, heh.
 
2013-01-16 09:25:00 AM  

themasterdebater: I'll chalk it up to lazy programming. Probably included every module by default when developing the app.


Exactly. They are making sound like some villain from an episode of Knight Rider is sitting in a cave stroking his beard while watching every move you make and randomly laughing in an evil tone while implying he'll get you one day.
 
2013-01-16 09:25:34 AM  

WelldeadLink: Nem Wan: What better way for researchers construct a map of places that are dark?


WellDeadLink, I think you deserve a golf clap yourself if that GIF is from what I think it is.

:)

/was before my time
 
2013-01-16 09:25:36 AM  
How to make money with a free app 101
 
2013-01-16 09:25:37 AM  
*le gasp* The electronic device that allows me to make calls on the move from virtually anywhere, map GPS routes directly following my every move and post photos etc that state my location at the time is insecure to third-party software I download onto it and my own lack of security is being exploited!?!! I'm through with technology forever!

www.sott.net
 
2013-01-16 09:26:35 AM  

computerguyUT: Well, the government has to have a way to find you when they come to take all of your evil guns away.

If you haven't had your tracking chip implanted yet (flu shot), then Google will most certainly sell you out.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-16 09:28:42 AM  
For every 100 photos of Demetrius on the can when building power goes out I get 1 photo from some kid's phone when he's got the shy freshman girl naked in the dark and needs a light to figure out which end is up. It's worth -

Hold on, somebody's yelling "FBI!" outside.
 
2013-01-16 09:28:51 AM  
Yeah, not Google on the flashlight app. And every app that wants to use my location info I've ever used, on both my iPhones and my android, ask for permission to use my location data. To which I always respond with "no," unless the app has a valid reason to do so. There's a setting on the phone to require this. Not hard to deal with, unless the clock on your still-in-use VCR is always flashing 12:00. Incidentally, before I realized my phone came with a widget which was better, I got the "brightest flashlight" app. It had a banner ad on its screen. That's probably why it wanted location data- for targeted ads.
 
2013-01-16 09:29:08 AM  
My only fear, when it comes to my phone, is when the future Mrs. titwrench isn't home and I decide to blow off some steam with some youporn or spankwire that my camera secretly turns on and some room full of people is watching me "shake hands with the unemployed". Too much pressure to put on a show.
 
2013-01-16 09:31:03 AM  
Why the fark do I care what words people around me are looking up?
 
2013-01-16 09:33:10 AM  
So basically, if you're off to do something nefarious, leave your phone at home.
 
2013-01-16 09:38:48 AM  
It's not Google and even if it was I don't give a fark. Google knows what I jerk off to. I've got no "google dignity" left.
 
2013-01-16 09:41:20 AM  
I bet the same people outraged by this immediately posted it on Facebook and installed the latest Zynga game.
 
2013-01-16 09:43:09 AM  
To all the commenters posting some version of "OMG my phone can track me!? I'm going to go back to using smoke signals!" You're missing the larger point.

The issue is not that the 3rd party developer (or even Google) knows what you do and where you are; it's what they do with that information. They sell it to huge data aggregators like Acxiom who add it to the digital file under your unique identifier (phone number/phone network id). Those companies then turn loose their algorithms on analyzing and punching and folding and mutilating your patterns of life. The potential for abuse of that data is so big as to be unimaginable. But it's mostly potential now, so whatever. I'm sure it will all work out fine.
 
2013-01-16 09:44:16 AM  
Until Gingerbread there was a simple free app that let you check off each permission on each app. Apparently no one could afford to buy the developer a new phone with updated android OS.
 
2013-01-16 09:45:33 AM  
FTFA: "The list wasn't ranked, though Hong said the flashlight app registered the most surprise. The list wasn't ranked, though Hong said the flashlight app registered the most surprise."

/wut?
 
2013-01-16 09:54:49 AM  
FTFA - Dictionary.com's collection of location information allows the app to offer a fun feature: words others nearby are searching for. That explanation made users much less likely to feel like their privacy had been violated, Hong said.

Well, who's not gonna feel better after knowing that they've got a cool feature like that?
 
2013-01-16 10:02:36 AM  

Demetrius: I have Google Maps. Of course I'm being tracked.

Google knows where I live. Google knows where I work. Google knows where my kids play soccer and where we get pizza. They even know what's in my email.

I'm sure there's some guy in Mountain View, CA sitting at his desk saying: "Hey guys! Come check this out!  Demetrius is at his job right now!"

I could give up all the cool things that Google and Android do for me, or I can realize that no one really gives a shiat about what I do and ignore the things they try to market to me because they have some info on me.  I'll take Google's marketing to me over the shiat-ton of other marketing stuff that I get in my mailbox every day that goes straight into the trash.  Those people know a ton about me too.


I think people are more concerned with things like that reported on Market Place a few months back... Google is privately testing a system that sells information about your habits to insurers, which can then be used to deny you claims.
 
2013-01-16 10:11:27 AM  

RexTalionis: It's not Google's app. It's an app that some random dude wrote on and released on the Android Play Store. There are no Google Flashlight Apps.


Really? I have not downloaded any apps to my Android phone, and it has an app called "Flashlight". The screen image is of a flashlight, naturally, but I cannot find any info about it on the phone (the menu button does nothing within this app).

/location sharing turned off
 
2013-01-16 10:12:00 AM  

jensvoight14: To all the commenters posting some version of "OMG my phone can track me!? I'm going to go back to using smoke signals!" You're missing the larger point.

The issue is not that the 3rd party developer (or even Google) knows what you do and where you are; it's what they do with that information. They sell it to huge data aggregators like Acxiom who add it to the digital file under your unique identifier (phone number/phone network id). Those companies then turn loose their algorithms on analyzing and punching and folding and mutilating your patterns of life. The potential for abuse of that data is so big as to be unimaginable. But it's mostly potential now, so whatever. I'm sure it will all work out fine.


Help me out here. Your imagination must be better than mine, because I can't imagine anything bad they can do with this. Track me and rob my house when I'm gone? Having access to that kind of data could provide a small benefit to mundane crimes, but I can't imagine any 'futuristic' crimes. I may have too much faith that the 'Unique identifier' is randomized and not blatantly traceable back to me, but even if it is, I'm not seeing the drawbacks. If someone wants to rob me in a high tech way, or the old fashioned way, it's all the same, theft.

I have two CSB about google tracking.
One, while searching Version, Sprint, Cricket, Tracfone. I did see a useful add for $20 "Unlimited" talk and data from RePublicWireless. The phone system uses wifi whenever possible (unlimited), then uses Sprints network when wifi is not available (nebulous limits). Currently they are transitioning between beta to live, so there are no limits but if you are using too much tower time they will warn and cut you off. As said they are just coming out of beta so the sound quality is not great over wifi, but they will have an update to address that later this month. Even as is, it suits my needs as a secondary phone.

The other one was we were discussing a friends recent trip to Disney in a restaurant. Then out of the blue I started seeing Disney vacation adds. It freaked me out a bit.
 
GBB
2013-01-16 10:12:20 AM  
TFA: 95 percent were surprised it used location data

The other 5% responded with a sarcastic, "No, I'm not surprise by this."
 
2013-01-16 10:17:36 AM  
You know, there would be a market for a flashlight app that transparently shot video whenever the light was on and secretly uploaded it to a location of the user's choosing.
 
2013-01-16 10:21:24 AM  
I switched from an iPhone4 to an Galaxy S3 back in September. The ability to toggle individual permissions on a per-app basis was, IMO, one of the areas where iOS was ahead of Android. In the stock Android universe (at least the Android images AT&T ships), there's no way to selectively enable/disable various permissions on a per-app basis. I can't enable, say, GPS for maps but disable it for everything else.

I think there are some apps that'll allow that level of fine-grained control on Android but they require you to either root your phone or load a custom ROM, I can't remember...
 
2013-01-16 10:25:12 AM  

Nem Wan: What better way for researchers construct a map of places that are dark?


The maker of the camera used in the XBox Kinnect has a new version that is small enough to fit into cell phones. One of the uses he suggested was to make a 3d map of your house for use in games. Which would be kind of cool... a home, school or work place fps game.... Ok, maybe need a better idea.... paint gun shooter game of course.

They could collect 3d maps of schools and hospitals which truly could be put to good use. They could also track the spaces over time to identify stationary and mobile objects, remind you it's time to clean your room.
 
2013-01-16 10:25:32 AM  
Is it wrong that I keep reading the app as a Fleshlight?  Cause that's just yucky.
 
2013-01-16 10:26:16 AM  

skantea: Just put the Data Enable/Disable toggle button right on the main screen. Enable when you want to do stuff, and Disable before you put it away.


Now my Android phone is queueing up reports about where I was at what time, and when I turn data back on it sends them to the Flashlight app's developer all at once!

Problem solved!
 
2013-01-16 10:26:55 AM  
Its just like 1984

/yeah its not about the flashlight app
//fark you, its Tim MInchin
 
2013-01-16 10:27:36 AM  

Stone Meadow: RexTalionis: It's not Google's app. It's an app that some random dude wrote on and released on the Android Play Store. There are no Google Flashlight Apps.

Really? I have not downloaded any apps to my Android phone, and it has an app called "Flashlight". The screen image is of a flashlight, naturally, but I cannot find any info about it on the phone (the menu button does nothing within this app).

/location sharing turned off


Yes, really. Google does not make that app. That is a third party app.
 
2013-01-16 10:29:06 AM  

RexTalionis: It's not Google's app. It's an app that some random dude wrote on and released on the Android Play Store. There are no Google Flashlight Apps.


I was just about to say that. Misleading headline is misleading.

/failmitter an Apple fanboi?
//no dog in this fight, I use a crappy J2ME phone
 
2013-01-16 10:31:25 AM  

jensvoight14: The issue is not that the 3rd party developer (or even Google) knows what you do and where you are; it's what they do with that information. They sell it to huge data aggregators like Acxiom who add it to the digital file under your unique identifier (phone number/phone network id).


And this is basically why I'm *glad* that Apple has taken a walled garden approach.

Sure, it takes two weeks for every app version my company releases to get approved for the App Store. But at least somebody's checking to see if apps are doing certain unsavory behaviors (like requesting location services if there's no user benefit, or reporting personally identifiable device information to third parties).

It's not a perfect system, but it does cut down on the risks you take when you install a new app.
 
2013-01-16 10:35:08 AM  
Flashlight app tracked to subby's moms bedroom.
 
2013-01-16 10:36:53 AM  

poot_rootbeer: jensvoight14: The issue is not that the 3rd party developer (or even Google) knows what you do and where you are; it's what they do with that information. They sell it to huge data aggregators like Acxiom who add it to the digital file under your unique identifier (phone number/phone network id).

And this is basically why I'm *glad* that Apple has taken a walled garden approach.

Sure, it takes two weeks for every app version my company releases to get approved for the App Store. But at least somebody's checking to see if apps are doing certain unsavory behaviors (like requesting location services if there's no user benefit, or reporting personally identifiable device information to third parties).

It's not a perfect system, but it does cut down on the risks you take when you install a new app.


I can see why the walled garden could be desirable with the safety and security and everything, but you also miss out on a lot of kickass things Apple or Google may not want you to have. Such as alternate maps, emulators, free wireless tethering and the like.
I've been with Android the past 2 years with no problems. Basically if you treat a downloadable app the same way you'd treat any other file you download on the net and take the same precautions, you should be OK.
 
2013-01-16 10:47:15 AM  
And that's a great example of why you should root your Android phone. LBE Privacy Guard lets you choose which permissions an app is allowed, either Allow / Ask / Deny. Not only does that let you turn off location data, but for a game like Angry Birds you can turn off internet completely, so it can't contact the servers for advertisements or to share your data.
 
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