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2013-01-16 12:58:12 PM

EyeballKid: Dubya may have been a mentally challenged war criminal who doomed the nation's economy for decades after his unearned presidency ("may have been..." HA! I'm such a kidder!), but at least he wasn't so -- you know -- "socialist."


No, he was also a socialist (Medicare Part D, TARP, etc.).

And therefore scum.
 
2013-01-16 12:58:15 PM

DiamondDave: So, you folks would be A-OK with GWB using executive orders to circumvent the Constitution?

What am I saying? Of course you would! Because you're not a bunch of hypocrites.


What executive order has Obama issued that circumvents the Constitution?
 
2013-01-16 12:59:29 PM
So this is what happens when politics spills out onto the main page.. Wow.
 
2013-01-16 12:59:30 PM

hdhale: Obama is no George III. However, he is one arrogant son of a biatch.


How's that, then?
 
2013-01-16 12:59:31 PM

jigger: BMFPitt: No, he seems to make no mention of imperialism in TFA, unfortunately.

Nice that he is speaking out on a unconstitutional power grab, but he seems to have no problem with empire building.

Are you talking about Rand Paul here? Rand has his faults, but this is not one of them.


Better than most, but still too much for me.

But at least I give him credit for being in favor of civil liberties.
 
2013-01-16 12:59:35 PM

Infernalist: It's amazing how people never seem to recognize that these sorts of things are coordinated by a handful of people at the top.


Not too surprising. It's not like you watch footage of a Pit-Tea Party protest and find yourself thinking, "Was nothing accomplished at the universities and hospitals today, what with all our local brilliant minds apparently elsewhere?"
 
2013-01-16 01:00:39 PM

Infernalist: Mutiny32: The trolling tags getting greenlit are getting really old. Cut that shiat out already. Between that and the crap sponsored articles, this place is getting worse and worse.

If you're looking for honest debate, you're better off looking elsewhere other than Fark.

I treat this place as it deserves to be treated: A place to amuse myself by mocking retarded conservatives and watching the trolls stink up the joint.


I view it that way too. I am simply pointing out that maybe some variety with tags on politically charged stories would be better. Using trolling tags is fun, but not when it's used virtually all of the time. It's boring.
 
2013-01-16 01:01:18 PM

Infernalist: lordjupiter: "King" is the buzzword being circulated lately. This is very clearly designed to stir up the revolutionary argle bargle.

These people are insane.

It's amazing how people never seem to recognize that these sorts of things are coordinated by a handful of people at the top. The synchronized releases and talks and speeches all referring to 'king' and 'monarchy'...Do they all think that these disparate and different groups and peoples all came up with the same idea on the same day?


It always happens this way. Suddenly, every derper you know is using the same words, talking about the same issue that nobody had even thought about for X years. Out of the blue, suddenly there's fake outrage over some standard practice that had been going on for years, but is suddenly some new, dictatorial initiative by King Blackie McGungrabber.

And then they have the balls to say they don't get it from right wing media sources. Well, if they don't get it directly (which they DO, but won't admit) then they get it from friends who do (but also won't admit it).

DAILY OUTRAGE!
DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO, LIBTARDZ!
HEY RUSH, TELL ME WHAT TO DO!
 
2013-01-16 01:01:29 PM

kindms: Ignored "kindms". If you want to completely hide ignored user comments, change the "Show header of ignored comments" option in your user profile.


welcome to the list! Assassinated Americans indeed!!!111!!!


what color IS the sky there?
 
2013-01-16 01:02:44 PM

cleek: jigger: reign424: Not like Obama passed the ..."Patriot" Act

Yes he did.

and had he not, all the "conservatives" would be wailing about how he has weakened our most effective tools against terrorism.


So? What, you actually think Obama is against the Patriot Act? I guess it's hard to tell since he only voted for its reauthorization when he was a Senator and then signed its reauthorization when he was President.
 
2013-01-16 01:03:08 PM

Timmy the Tumor: So, you guys are ok with Obama skipping around Congress on the second-most inflammatory issue (second to abortion) in politics by issuing an executive order?


Even if left to congress, I can't imagine them doing anything. I mean, look what the House did with several easy bills. They sit on them and refuse to vote, or simply work against the President cause...well fark everyone else but our party. I don't trust them with anything at this point, it's all just fighting and rhetoric. And I used to be Republican.
 
2013-01-16 01:03:19 PM

utharda: Timmy the Tumor: So, you guys are ok with Obama skipping around Congress on the second-most inflammatory issue (second to abortion) in politics by issuing an executive order?

Since you are obviously slow, I'll use small words.  Yes I am.  Obama was elected by a majority of Americans   You second amendment bet wetting mouth breathers have representation largely due to gerrymandered congressional districts, which have created an absolute race to the bottom.  Now go drive your hover round off a pier and leave real people alone.  Or I will stab you.

Now leave or I shall taunt you again.


Quit stereotyping, you wine sipping, homo loving half man. Your cowardice shames not only your family who you seem intent to leave to dangers you wont be able to protect them from, but you shame your neighbors and countrymen.
 
2013-01-16 01:04:07 PM

d23: 900RR: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: What's scary is some people in here sound like they would be OK with the King idea.

He's already their king! Stupid people love him. The media already said he is "Sort of a God".

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Plonk. I hope I never read anything you post again.. ever.


Can you plonk me, too? I don't want you to read my stuff.
 
2013-01-16 01:04:36 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Pants full of macaroni!!: Bf+: So...

According to Republicans, Obama is:
Socialist
Marxist
Arab
Fascist
Antichrist
Kenyan
Muslim
Blah
Usurper
Monarch

I left out Reptoid for now-- It's just a matter of time though.
Any others I missed?

According to the Big Spiffy List of All the Bad Things Fartbama Is (which I maintain), he is a Communist Nazi Muslim Socialist Peacenik Elitist Dhimmicrat Man-Child Egghead Blowhard Lightweight Girlyman Embarrassment Celebrity Jihadist Appeaser Jew Poseur Usurper Dictator Manchurian-Candidate Community-Organizer Cult-Leader Empty-Suit Empty-Chair Tyrant Bureaucrat Hypocrite Nerd Non-Citizen America-Hater Arugula-Muncher Marxist Terrorist Liberal Leftist Stalinist Welfare-Statist Narcissist Plagiarist Pottymouth Pantywaist Murderer War-Criminal Islamofascist Sleeper-Cell Ghetto-Trash Blame-America-Firster Fearmonger Racist Atheist Kenyan Keynesian Militant Flag-Burner Cyber-Luddite Child-Molester Anti-Catholic Drug-Lord Gun-Grabber Gun-Runner Lightbulb-Outlawer Disbarred-Lawyer Scarecrow Hipster Union-Thug Anti-Semite Media-Darling Fifth-Columnist Ponzi-Schemer Vacation-Abuser Lazy-Ass Flip-Flopper Black-Liberationist Abortionist Antichrist Coward Traitor Liar Trickster Death-Panelist Affirmative-Action-Case Evolutionist Fraudster Pothead Coke-Dealer Alinskyite Taxaholic Spendthrift Job-Killer Puppetmaster Soros-Minion Apology-Tourist Anti-Colonialist Subhuman Illegal-Alien Homogay Reptoid Hayes-Insulter Dog-Eater Weather-Controller Silver-Spoon Monarchist Teleprompter-Addict Chain-Smoker Yuengling-Swiller Hip-Hop-Barbecuer Taqqiya-Practitioner Hoodie-Condoner Stutterer Non-Tipper Binder-Clipper Pizza-Cheese-Eater Face-Blocker Havel-Snubber Malware-Propagator Autopen-User Armwrestler-Phobic Churchill-Bust-Returner Misogynist Greenie-Weenie State-Miscounter Asian-Name-Flubber Tchotchke-Seller Mom-Jeans-Wearer Grey-Poupon-Supremacist Long-Legged Mackdaddy.

..of Ulm.


"President" Basilisk Chumpstain 0FUK0's

Kenyan communist arugula eating Presidential usurping paperclip using birth certificate forging tax loving dijon mustard spreading gun-running college transcript cheating cigarette smoking baby killing 200 million dollar a day vacationing job regulating gun taking teleprompter reading czar appointing christmas tree taxing death panel instating wealth redistributing terrorist pal'ing inexperienced foriegn leader worshipping vacation-taking deficit spending incandescent lightbulb banning jalapeno ordering secret muslim Nazi Americans won't do.


Communist Nazi Muslim Socialist Peacenik Elitist Dhimmicrat Man-Child Egghead Celebrity Jihadist Appeaser Usurper Dictator Manchurian-Candidate Community-Organizer Cult-Leader Empty-Suit Tyrant Bureaucrat Hypocrite Non-Citizen America-Hater Arugula-Muncher Marxist Terrorist Liberal Leftist Stalinist Welfare-Statist Narcissist Plagiarist Pottymouth Murderer Islamofascist Sleeper-Cell Ghetto-Trash Blame-America-Firster Fearmonger Racist Atheist Kenyan Keynesian Militant Flag-Burner Child-Molester Drug-Lord Gun-Grabber Gun-Runner Lightbulb-Outlawer Union-Thug Anti-Semite Media-Darling Fifth-Columnist Ponzi-Schemer Vacation-Abuser Lazy-Ass Flip-Flopper Black-Liberationist Abortionist Antichrist Coward Traitor Liar Trickster Death-Panelist Affirmative-Action-Case Evolutionist Fraudster Pothead Coke-Dealer Alinskyite Taxaholic Spendthrift Job-Killer Puppetmaster Soros-Minion Subhuman Illegal-Alien Reptoid Silver-Spoon Monarchist Teleprompter-Addict Chain-Smoker Hip-Hop-Barbecuer Stutterer Non-Tipper Binder-Clipper Pizza-Cheese-Eater Face-Blocker Havel-Snubber Malware-Propagator Greenie-Weenie State-Miscounter Mom-Jeans-Wearer Grey-Poupon-Supremacist Long-Legged Mackdaddy currently defiling the White House.
Em-barr-ASS-ment HUSSEIN Fartburglar Antichrist
 
2013-01-16 01:04:43 PM

EyeballKid: "Was nothing accomplished at the universities and hospitals today, what with all our local brilliant minds apparently elsewhere?"


If it's all about money, then the people who print it own your land, your food, your work and your history. They also own the talent that makes the universities and hospitals offer quality. So far, this hasn't worked out. Mayer Amschel Rothschild figured this out eons before our grandfathers were born.
 
2013-01-16 01:05:05 PM

Infernalist: Mutiny32: The trolling tags getting greenlit are getting really old. Cut that shiat out already. Between that and the crap sponsored articles, this place is getting worse and worse.

If you're looking for honest debate, you're better off looking elsewhere other than Fark.

I treat this place as it deserves to be treated: A place to amuse myself by mocking retarded conservatives and watching the trolls stink up the joint.


I began coming here in 2000 or 2001, lurked for a while (iirc) and registered in December of 2001 when I couldn't hold my tongue anymore because of the political derp.

It has ALWAYS been like this. All political discussions take the same course and tone. Anyone looking to hammer out legislation is looking in the wrong place.
 
2013-01-16 01:05:05 PM

Timmy the Tumor: So, you guys are ok with Obama skipping around Congress on the second-most inflammatory issue (second to abortion) in politics by issuing an executive order?


There are 20 dead 7 year old in Newtown that would like to have a word with you. If they were like, I don't know - vertical?
 
2013-01-16 01:07:41 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: What's scary is some people in here sound like they would be OK with the King idea.

Anyway, here is the list of executive orders Obama is tossing out there.

All in all, not too much to get worked up over.


1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector ...


He is truly and unequivocally History's Greatest Monster.
 
2013-01-16 01:08:02 PM

caramba421: clane: You gitty Liberals should head warning that your Obama is setting a precedent for future presidents. How are you going to like it when a president you don't agree with starts using their powers in the same dictating style. It will happen.

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"Low information" is just a polite way of saying "idiot".

These people are idiots.
 
2013-01-16 01:08:12 PM
You know who else liked to use executive orders?
 
2013-01-16 01:08:15 PM
If you look closely at the fine print you'll see these executive orders only apply to "habitants of the States under jurisdiction of this (executive) office". Since Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Kentucky are all Commonwealths and not "states" they are exempt from these orders, which is not surprising given the amount of money donated to Obama's inauguration party from these very areas.
 
2013-01-16 01:08:17 PM

Timmy the Tumor: ImpendingCynic: Timmy the Tumor: So, you guys are ok with Obama skipping around Congress on the second-most inflammatory issue (second to abortion) in politics by issuing an executive order?

Were you OK with Reagan and GW Bush skipping around Congress on the most imflammatory issue (abortion) by issuing the Global Gag Rule?

I was 11 years old, was more concerned with watching cartoons than whatever the global gag rule is.


DO keep in mind that saying "well, because someone did ________ 30 years ago, it's ok for this guy to do something similar now" is a pretty weak stance


So also is whining "that HE did something that EVERY other president in office has done pretty much since we've HAD presidents"

For example, Lance Armstrong doped, as does MOST of the bike crowd, so its horrible for him to admit it?

Plus its pretty well accepted that Paul IS an idiot.
 
2013-01-16 01:08:20 PM

Farkomatic: There are 20 dead 7 year old in Newtown that would like to have a word with you. If they were like, I don't know - vertical?


If Obama could have issued a constitutional Executive Order at any time to prevent the Newtown massacre, then why didn't he? If he has the unilateral authority to issue it at any time, and it would save lives, then why did he wait until AFTER 20 kids had died?

You're saying that Obama's delay killed at least 20 kids.
 
2013-01-16 01:08:31 PM

cryinoutloud: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: How normal people see President Obama:
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How Teapublicans view him:
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i'd vote for that guy
 
2013-01-16 01:09:15 PM
I'm against having a king," he said Tuesday in an interview in Jerusalem with the Christian Broadcasting Network. "I think having a monarch is what we fought the American Revolution over and someone who wants to bypass the Constitution, bypass Congress - that's someone who wants to act like a king or a monarch."

what a whiny cry baby.  this is the future of the GOP?  whiny girly men who complain endlessly when they should be finding a way to fix a difficult and complex problem...?
 
2013-01-16 01:09:48 PM
I've decided that in politics, if you have nothing to say, you bash the other person personally.
 
2013-01-16 01:09:49 PM
He's an idiot. We'd have a King, except George Washington turned the offer down.
 
2013-01-16 01:09:50 PM

Oldiron_79: You know who else liked to use executive orders?


George Bush...?
 
2013-01-16 01:10:10 PM

Phinn: You're saying that Obama's delay killed at least 20 kids.


No, some sh*tstain who took advantage of the fact that you can cobble together an arsenal on a shoestring did that.
 
2013-01-16 01:10:14 PM

jmr61: Stupid piece of shiat never heard of an executive order?

"George W. Bush (R) (2001-2009) had a total of 291 Executive Orders throughout his 8 years in office. President George W. Bush started with EO 13198 and ended with EO 13488. "

I'm sure Paul was perfectly fine with each and every one of these.

Dumbass.


Why are you sure? Because you fail to research things that may not end up supporting your ideology and pre-conceived notions because you're a partisan hack? Or is it some other reason?
 
2013-01-16 01:10:27 PM

Farkomatic: Timmy the Tumor: So, you guys are ok with Obama skipping around Congress on the second-most inflammatory issue (second to abortion) in politics by issuing an executive order?

There are 20 dead 7 year old in Newtown that would like to have a word with you. If they were like, I don't know - vertical?


And there are countless aborted fetuses that would like to have a word with you. If they were like, I don't know, allowed to be born.

This is a stupid game. Can we discuss this like adults?
 
2013-01-16 01:10:42 PM

Weaver95: I'm against having a king," he said Tuesday in an interview in Jerusalem with the Christian Broadcasting Network. "I think having a monarch is what we fought the American Revolution over and someone who wants to bypass the Constitution, bypass Congress - that's someone who wants to act like a king or a monarch."

what a whiny cry baby.  this is the future of the GOP?  whiny girly men who complain endlessly when they should be finding a way to fix a difficult and complex problem...?


Yes. Although to be fair, that's what his constituents want.
 
2013-01-16 01:10:58 PM
This drives me crazy, ok, I am a Libertarian who votes GOP, and YES for the millionth time if George Bush (H.W. and W.) did that I would be mad too. I was indeed angry over many of George Bush's decisions. The No Child Left Behind Act (I am was teaching at the time) especially got on my nerves. Obama and George Bush are not the supreme leaders. I don't need to bow down to any of them.

Ok? So stop the high school argument of "but it would be ok if Bush did it nah nah nah nah!"
 
2013-01-16 01:11:31 PM

bunner: hdhale: Obama is no George III. However, he is one arrogant son of a biatch.

How's that, then?


Didn't you see that picture where he has his chin up?

OOOOOOHHHH THE ARROGANCE!!1!
 
2013-01-16 01:11:42 PM
There are times when I come here and read through the posts and wonder if people really believe what they are posting, because it that is the case I weep for the human race. My favorite is when they say something totally off the wall and when they are questioned on it the response is some insult. I haven't done any calculations, but it feels as though the liberals are guilty of this move often than the conservatives, but that could just be as result of more of them being on here.

There were many grievances that led up to the revolution and some of those were a result of policies implemented by Parliament under the encouragement of King George III. So the statement about a Monarch is correct if not limited and does apply to the current situation where representation does not include many of the people of this nation.
 
2013-01-16 01:12:16 PM

ghare: Weaver95: I'm against having a king," he said Tuesday in an interview in Jerusalem with the Christian Broadcasting Network. "I think having a monarch is what we fought the American Revolution over and someone who wants to bypass the Constitution, bypass Congress - that's someone who wants to act like a king or a monarch."

what a whiny cry baby.  this is the future of the GOP?  whiny girly men who complain endlessly when they should be finding a way to fix a difficult and complex problem...?

Yes. Although to be fair, that's what his constituents want.


you should hear limbaugh today - he's having a mental breakdown. My gods, I thought he was actually going to break down and CRY on air!
 
2013-01-16 01:12:59 PM

Cythraul: kronicfeld: SurfaceTension: Technically it was because we were having taxes imposed while not having representation in parliament.

Not to go all Howard Zinn (I just assume he's written something that bears a resemblance to the following), but technically that's a very simplistic analysis. Very few people could even vote at the time, even for local colonial offices that were independent of the crown; if you weren't a white, male landowner over 21 years of age, even the local authority would not enfranchise you. Those at the head of the revolutionary movement, including John Adams, fervently opposed widening the right to vote. "Taxation without representation" was a convenient slogan, but it couldn't mean much to the "middle" and lower classes that didn't meet the parameters necessary to have the vote. And it certainly wasn't a policy that the colonies bothered to remedy after winning their independence from the crown.

Remember that people and politicians aren't really any different now from how they were 350 years ago. Sloganeering and the political spectacle are as old as time. The people at the front of an ideological movement will find ways to convince people who stand to gain very little if anything from that movement that they need to join in. Look at today's Tea Party and other fringe groups.

After reading A People's History, I got the impression that it was just a bunch of rich people over here who didn't like other rich people across the ocean telling them what to do and preventing them from getting even richer.


I bought A People's History before a deployment, looking for something to whet my appetite for history. They weren't kidding when they named it "People's History". It's like the farking People's Republic of China, what's said in that shiat-tome. But some people want a slanted demagogued out version of information. I want the truth.

/Threw the book out the bus window, should've crapped on it and set it on fire first
 
2013-01-16 01:13:06 PM
Rand Paul would never make it through the primaries. He is too much of a purist. Libertarians are still weak in the GOP but I hope they take it over. Really sick of the GOP we have now.
 
2013-01-16 01:13:17 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: What's scary is some people in here sound like they would be OK with the King idea.

Anyway, here is the list of executive orders Obama is tossing out there.

All in all, not too much to get worked up over.


1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challeng ...


Yes, it's another instance of let the right whoop and holler and get people scared, and then do something really bland and reasonable and not at all what the right was screaming about and then people look at the right and say "WTF were you whooping and hollering about? He's not taking your guns you morons".

I expect some of my fellow Democrats to be a bit disappointed at what was proposed, since isn't a good chunk of it "Let Congress sort it out"?
 
2013-01-16 01:13:43 PM

Cythraul: kronicfeld: SurfaceTension: Technically it was because we were having taxes imposed while not having representation in parliament.

Not to go all Howard Zinn (I just assume he's written something that bears a resemblance to the following), but technically that's a very simplistic analysis. Very few people could even vote at the time, even for local colonial offices that were independent of the crown; if you weren't a white, male landowner over 21 years of age, even the local authority would not enfranchise you. Those at the head of the revolutionary movement, including John Adams, fervently opposed widening the right to vote. "Taxation without representation" was a convenient slogan, but it couldn't mean much to the "middle" and lower classes that didn't meet the parameters necessary to have the vote. And it certainly wasn't a policy that the colonies bothered to remedy after winning their independence from the crown.

Remember that people and politicians aren't really any different now from how they were 350 years ago. Sloganeering and the political spectacle are as old as time. The people at the front of an ideological movement will find ways to convince people who stand to gain very little if anything from that movement that they need to join in. Look at today's Tea Party and other fringe groups.

After reading A People's History, I got the impression that it was just a bunch of rich people over here who didn't like other rich people across the ocean telling them what to do and preventing them from getting even richer.


There were also the things republicans are terrified of mentioning today. The corporate powers dominating trade, being drafted for wars they didn't necessarily feel like fighting. The implication that where you're born determines whether you're a superior Englishman or an inferior Colonial.

Kind of all the things Rand Paul supports. Hell he's even for a monarch as long as it calls itself "Chief Executive Officer."
 
2013-01-16 01:14:19 PM

tommyl66: If you look closely at the fine print you'll see these executive orders only apply to "habitants of the States under jurisdiction of this (executive) office". Since Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Kentucky are all Commonwealths and not "states" they are exempt from these orders, which is not surprising given the amount of money donated to Obama's inauguration party from these very areas.


9.5/10. Well done.
 
2013-01-16 01:14:36 PM
I have dogs smarter than Rand Paul.
 
2013-01-16 01:14:57 PM

kindms: seadoo2006: shortymac: God this is ridiculous. This reminded me of a derptasic FB posting by someone I went to High School with when Obama was elected:

"I will NOT call him president. HE IS NOT MY PRESIDENT. He wasn't my president before this election, he will not be my president this election and he will not be my ex-president. He will not be my king, my ruler.....NOTHING!!!"

Another posting summarized:
"But, in the mean time...on a very good note and a very happy note....HE CAN NOT BE ELECTED FOR A THIRD TERM!!!!! We can overcome the obstacles in the way, because we have a greater power on our side and it is not "the ruler obama", it is God!!!! So, lets all pray, have faith and look forward to no more Obama in four years. KARMA IS A biatch! :) #TeamRomney2016"

Granted I was a kid when Clinton was elected, but I don't remember all these "monarchy" rhetoric while he was in office. For both him and Bush it was more "dumb redneck" heckling.

Is this hidden racism or more the internet and FB has given every angry idiot a soapbox? Thoughts?

That's the only logical conclusion I can come up with based on the fact that, objectively, Obama is a left-leaning, pro-business, centrist, who up until about a month ago, couldn't give two shiats about guns. The man is half-black and that just pisses people off with righteous indignation.

Oh Baloney.

Barack Obama was elected in part because he said he would follow the rule of law. He has gone after more whistle blowers than every president combined. He has assassinated american citizens without due process of law. He has refused to allow the public to even read the secret interpretations of the patriot act that his admin is working under. He has steadfastly continued to argue Bush administration court arguments of executive secrecy shielding torturers and other law breakers from any accountability.

To say the only reason that anyone has an issue with him is because he is black is just stupid. I voted for the guy the first ti ...


cleek: jigger: reign424: Not like Obama passed the ..."Patriot" Act

Yes he did.

and had he not, all the "conservatives" would be wailing about how he has weakened our most effective tools against terrorism.


Good move, then!
 
2013-01-16 01:15:13 PM

Lionel Mandrake: bunner: hdhale: Obama is no George III. However, he is one arrogant son of a biatch.

How's that, then?

Didn't you see that picture where he has his chin up?

OOOOOOHHHH THE ARROGANCE!!1!


Ah reckon if he had any manners and knew his place, he'd stare at his feet when addressed by respectable folk, then again, if'n he was one of the good ones, he wouldn't messin' with all this presidential tomfoolery.
 
2013-01-16 01:15:31 PM

bunner: Phinn: You're saying that Obama's delay killed at least 20 kids.

No, some sh*tstain who took advantage of the fact that you can cobble together an arsenal on a shoestring did that.


Stop and think for 2 seconds.

Obama claims that:

1. he has the Constitutional authority to unilaterally issue these Executive Orders, and
2. they have the power to save lives, particularly mass shootings, and mass school shootings most of all.

He's been in office for 4 years. In that time, there have been a few mass shootings.

Obama's supporters (and you, and Farkomatic, etc.) are all openly admitting that Obama's failure to do all that he could, when he could, cost all those people their lives.

Obama is a dilatory kid-killer.
 
2013-01-16 01:17:00 PM

Phinn: Stop and think for 2 seconds.


You first.
 
2013-01-16 01:19:17 PM

Phinn: bunner: Phinn: You're saying that Obama's delay killed at least 20 kids.

No, some sh*tstain who took advantage of the fact that you can cobble together an arsenal on a shoestring did that.

Stop and think for 2 seconds.

Obama claims that:

1. he has the Constitutional authority to unilaterally issue these Executive Orders, and
2. they have the power to save lives, particularly mass shootings, and mass school shootings most of all.

He's been in office for 4 years. In that time, there have been a few mass shootings.

Obama's supporters (and you, and Farkomatic, etc.) are all openly admitting that Obama's failure to do all that he could, when he could, cost all those people their lives.

Obama is a dilatory kid-killer.


www.troll.me
 
2013-01-16 01:19:29 PM

Bf+: So...

According to Republicans, Obama is:
Socialist
Marxist
Arab
Fascist
Antichrist
Kenyan
Muslim
Blah
Usurper
Monarch

I left out Reptoid for now-- It's just a matter of time though.
Any others I missed?


Incompetent
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-16 01:19:37 PM

Wangiss: d23: 900RR: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: What's scary is some people in here sound like they would be OK with the King idea.

He's already their king! Stupid people love him. The media already said he is "Sort of a God".

[i47.tinypic.com image 640x676]

Plonk. I hope I never read anything you post again.. ever.

Can you plonk me, too? I don't want you to read my stuff.


no
 
2013-01-16 01:20:54 PM

SurfaceTension: DamnYankees: Then he's an idiot. That's NOT why we fought the American Revolution. Like, at all.

We didn't fight because we had a monarch. We fought because we didn't have representation in Parliament.

Technically it was because we were having taxes imposed while not having representation in parliament.


Which was only a small portion of what lack of representation implied. We fought a Revolution because we were being remotely governed and had developed a separate identity. If we had simply petitioned Parliment for representation as a condition for continuing as subjects, they probably would have said yes. But there was so much that was wrong with remotely managing the colonies as well as the distinct cultural and social aspects that made the colonists say "we don't need you, and we aren't you"
 
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