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(CNN)   Rand Paul lays down the line on Obama's imperial ambitions: "I'm against having a king...I think having a monarch is what we fought the American Revolution over"   (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 628
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2013-01-16 10:47:14 AM  

Timmy the Tumor: ImpendingCynic: Timmy the Tumor: So, you guys are ok with Obama skipping around Congress on the second-most inflammatory issue (second to abortion) in politics by issuing an executive order?

Were you OK with Reagan and GW Bush skipping around Congress on the most imflammatory issue (abortion) by issuing the Global Gag Rule?

I was 11 years old, was more concerned with watching cartoons than whatever the global gag rule is.


DO keep in mind that saying "well, because someone did ________ 30 years ago, it's ok for this guy to do something similar now" is a pretty weak stance


Maybe, but compared to the soup sandwich of 'logic' put out by Rand Paul in TFA, it's farking genius.
 
2013-01-16 10:47:14 AM  
So Rand Paul believes that the President of the United States can't give a directive to organizations in the EXECUTIVE BRANCH. And supposedly this is the guy who knows the constitution?

HABAHAHA!
 
2013-01-16 10:47:45 AM  
I can't deal with this collection of stupid anymore.
 
2013-01-16 10:47:51 AM  

ImpendingCynic: Timmy the Tumor: So, you guys are ok with Obama skipping around Congress on the second-most inflammatory issue (second to abortion) in politics by issuing an executive order?
Were you OK with Reagan and GW Bush skipping around Congress on the most imflammatory issue (abortion) by issuing the Global Gag Rule?


Administration of George Bush (1989-1993)
166 Total Executive Orders Issued

Administration of Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
381 Total Executive Orders Issued

Administration of George W. Bush (2001-2009)
291 Total Executive orders Issued

Administration of Barack Obama (2009-Present)
144 Total Executive orders Issued

Looks like Obama is about average for the number of executive orders issued. But he is blah, and it's about guns, so.......holy shiat. The race wars are really starting. gun nuts, start your engines. You're finally going to get to shoot someone.
 
2013-01-16 10:47:54 AM  
Clap, clap, clap.

Dumbass go home!
 
2013-01-16 10:48:02 AM  
Rand Paul's destiny is surely a reality show.

(Surely.)
 
2013-01-16 10:48:39 AM  
"We fought because we didn't have representation in Parliament !"

No....no not close.

The LAST thing the organizers of the American revolution wanted was representation in British Government. It would have served little purpose.

'Taxation without representation' was a neat little sound bite for Colonists. But those who planned and carried out the American Revolution NEVER intended to be under British Monarchy.

Rand Paul is right about that part.

/history
 
2013-01-16 10:48:49 AM  
Having taken precious time to read through that pile of crap, I've come to the following conclusions:

1) The President is going to act via Executive Order, which is fully within the scope and authority of his office.

2) The GOP doesn't like this.

3) The GOP is going to make up something to try and impeach the President.

Did I miss anything of relevance?
 
2013-01-16 10:48:57 AM  
I predict nothing will come of this. Gun nutters are going to do what they always do - talk big shiat, eat dinner at Denny's, have unsatisfying sex with their wife, fart, fall asleep, then do it all over again tomorrow.
 
2013-01-16 10:49:03 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Barack Obama is not a king - he's just a run of the mill fascist. Just look at the reports of him using some kind of mythical 'executive powers' to strip our gun rights and bypass congress and any type of vote. He fears a vote, he fears democracy. Typical scumbag fascist.


Quit phoning it in or hang it up.
 
2013-01-16 10:49:10 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Barack Obama is not a king - he's just a run of the mill fascist. Just look at the reports of him using some kind of mythical 'executive powers' to strip our gun rights and bypass congress and any type of vote. He fears a vote, he fears democracy. Typical scumbag fascist.


potatozone.com
 
2013-01-16 10:49:11 AM  

TheOther: He was raised by RON PAUL.

RON PAUL, how did you get your kid THIS STUPID?


Practice.
 
2013-01-16 10:49:27 AM  
Other "kingly" actions that perhaps Rand needs to look into.

I for one am concerned about the decision to protect Striped Bass and Red Drum Fish populations without concerning himself with the rest of us! That wily tyrant!
 
2013-01-16 10:49:38 AM  

Infernalist: Having taken precious time to read through that pile of crap, I've come to the following conclusions:

1) The President is going to act via Executive Order, which is fully within the scope and authority of his office.

2) The GOP doesn't like this.

3) The GOP is going to make up something to try and impeach the President.

Did I miss anything of relevance?


.
You sound like a person not familiar with the laws of the US.
 
2013-01-16 10:49:48 AM  

clane: You gitty Liberals should head warning that your Obama is setting a precedent for future presidents. How are you going to like it when a president you don't agree with starts using their powers in the same dictating style. It will happen.


Your aware every presidents give orders to the organizations to the executive branch. It's actually the job of the president.


He doesn't only hire people.
 
2013-01-16 10:50:28 AM  

TheOther: He was raised by RON PAUL.

RON PAUL, how did you get your kid THIS STUPID?


I believe your question contains your answer.
 
2013-01-16 10:50:29 AM  

david_gaithersburg: I can't wait until this guy is president.


I'll file that in the folder with all the other conservative predictions that never come true.
 
2013-01-16 10:51:36 AM  
There was a long list of reasons for the Revolutionary War. Does anybody even read the Declaration of Independence anymore?

btw, Rand Paul was opposed to Republican presidents bypassing Congress too.
 
2013-01-16 10:51:42 AM  

SuperT: thinking about this, has anyone told these people that magazines are basically just metal boxes with a spring in them? or that there are already a gobillion "high capacity" versions of them in existence?


I certainly hope not. Anti-gun advocates have mainly said they are against confiscation and that's really the only way to remove all of those magazines from the country.
 
2013-01-16 10:51:50 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Infernalist: Having taken precious time to read through that pile of crap, I've come to the following conclusions:

1) The President is going to act via Executive Order, which is fully within the scope and authority of his office.

2) The GOP doesn't like this.

3) The GOP is going to make up something to try and impeach the President.

Did I miss anything of relevance?

.
You sound like a person not familiar with the laws of the US.

Among the proposals are 19 executive actions that Obama could take without congressional approval, legislators briefed by Biden said Tuesday.

 
2013-01-16 10:51:56 AM  

belome: OK, so I'll admit, I slept through my government class.

When an executive order is executed, what happens next? Say he tried to remove free speech from our country which would clearly violate the constitution. What checks and balances are there for this? Can it be reversed by congress? Does it go to a supreme court?

Or does it just become law and there is nothing that can be done about it? [I'm assuming the next president could remove it?]


The Supreme Court can, and has, thrown out Executive Orders.

I'm not sure if Congress could nullify an executive order if they really tried, but they could probably rewrite the laws the executive order is at least officially based on. In extreme cases a blatantly unconstitutional executive order could be considered grounds for impeachment on that front.

How executive orders typically are thrown out is by the next President. Generally one of the first things on the agenda after taking office is reverse all the existing executive orders they don't like.
 
2013-01-16 10:52:29 AM  

miss diminutive: Obama's a king now? So I gather he recently abolished term limits and appointed an heir to the throne?


stay tune, boy-o
 
2013-01-16 10:52:41 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Barack Obama is not a king - he's just a run of the mill fascist. Just look at the reports of him using some kind of mythical 'executive powers' to strip our gun rights and bypass congress and any type of vote. He fears a vote, he fears democracy. Typical scumbag fascist.


0/10
 
2013-01-16 10:53:00 AM  

Bf+: So...

According to Republicans, Obama is:
Socialist
Marxist
Arab
Fascist
Antichrist
Kenyan
Muslim
Blah
Usurper
Monarch

I left out Reptoid for now-- It's just a matter of time though.
Any others I missed?


According to the Big Spiffy List of All the Bad Things Fartbama Is (which I maintain), he is a Communist Nazi Muslim Socialist Peacenik Elitist Dhimmicrat Man-Child Egghead Blowhard Lightweight Girlyman Embarrassment Celebrity Jihadist Appeaser Jew Poseur Usurper Dictator Manchurian-Candidate Community-Organizer Cult-Leader Empty-Suit Empty-Chair Tyrant Bureaucrat Hypocrite Nerd Non-Citizen America-Hater Arugula-Muncher Marxist Terrorist Liberal Leftist Stalinist Welfare-Statist Narcissist Plagiarist Pottymouth Pantywaist Murderer War-Criminal Islamofascist Sleeper-Cell Ghetto-Trash Blame-America-Firster Fearmonger Racist Atheist Kenyan Keynesian Militant Flag-Burner Cyber-Luddite Child-Molester Anti-Catholic Drug-Lord Gun-Grabber Gun-Runner Lightbulb-Outlawer Disbarred-Lawyer Scarecrow Hipster Union-Thug Anti-Semite Media-Darling Fifth-Columnist Ponzi-Schemer Vacation-Abuser Lazy-Ass Flip-Flopper Black-Liberationist Abortionist Antichrist Coward Traitor Liar Trickster Death-Panelist Affirmative-Action-Case Evolutionist Fraudster Pothead Coke-Dealer Alinskyite Taxaholic Spendthrift Job-Killer Puppetmaster Soros-Minion Apology-Tourist Anti-Colonialist Subhuman Illegal-Alien Homogay Reptoid Hayes-Insulter Dog-Eater Weather-Controller Silver-Spoon Monarchist Teleprompter-Addict Chain-Smoker Yuengling-Swiller Hip-Hop-Barbecuer Taqqiya-Practitioner Hoodie-Condoner Stutterer Non-Tipper Binder-Clipper Pizza-Cheese-Eater Face-Blocker Havel-Snubber Malware-Propagator Autopen-User Armwrestler-Phobic Churchill-Bust-Returner Misogynist Greenie-Weenie State-Miscounter Asian-Name-Flubber Tchotchke-Seller Mom-Jeans-Wearer Grey-Poupon-Supremacist Long-Legged Mackdaddy.
 
2013-01-16 10:53:10 AM  

DamnYankees: Cythraul: After reading A People's History, I got the impression that it was just a bunch of rich people over here who didn't like other rich people across the ocean telling them what to do and preventing them from getting even richer.

That's basically right. It's what makes our revolution much less interesting and dramatic than the French Revolution.


But ours stuck better. The French ended up with a new king and a new aristocracy barely a generation later.
 
2013-01-16 10:53:15 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Infernalist: Having taken precious time to read through that pile of crap, I've come to the following conclusions:

1) The President is going to act via Executive Order, which is fully within the scope and authority of his office.

2) The GOP doesn't like this.

3) The GOP is going to make up something to try and impeach the President.

Did I miss anything of relevance?

.
You sound like a person not familiar with the laws of the US.


No, that's about right.
 
2013-01-16 10:53:24 AM  

DeathCipris: Oh right, dictatorship (monarch if they consider themselves regal).


I'm sure the Brits would appreciative to know they are living under a dictatorship. You should let them know.
 
2013-01-16 10:53:31 AM  

earthworm2.0: WhoopAssWayne: Barack Obama is not a king - he's just a run of the mill fascist. Just look at the reports of him using some kind of mythical 'executive powers' to strip our gun rights and bypass congress and any type of vote. He fears a vote, he fears democracy. Typical scumbag fascist.

0/10


You don't rate the bad ones, man. You ignore the bad ones.
 
2013-01-16 10:53:33 AM  

vpb: SurfaceTension: DamnYankees: Then he's an idiot. That's NOT why we fought the American Revolution. Like, at all.

We didn't fight because we had a monarch. We fought because we didn't have representation in Parliament.

Technically it was because we were having taxes imposed while not having representation in parliament.

That was the basis for demanding representation.  Most of the founding fathers didn't want independence at first, they just wanted the colonies to have MPs.

If we had gotten our own MPs there wouldn't have been a revolutionary war.


You must have found a much shorter version of the Declaration of Independence than I've been reading.
 
2013-01-16 10:54:16 AM  

doubled99: DamnYankees [TotalFark]

Then he's an idiot. That's NOT why we fought the American Revolution. Like, at all.

We didn't fight because we had a monarch. We fought because we didn't have representation in Parliament.

No, stupid, we fought it over slavery


no we didn't, idiot, we fought it to save that blind girl, Anne Frank.
 
2013-01-16 10:54:48 AM  
They've been acting like kings since JFK.
 
2013-01-16 10:55:06 AM  

STRYPERSWINE: btw, Rand Paul was opposed to Republican presidents bypassing Congress too.


Really? Citation?
 
2013-01-16 10:55:18 AM  

DamnYankees: Then he's an idiot. That's NOT why we fought the American Revolution. Like, at all.

We didn't fight because we had a monarch. We fought because we didn't have representation in Parliament.


You make a valid point, now since we do have representation, let congress pass or not pass bills for King President Obama to sign or veto as the system is design to do. Ruling by decree is not the way this government works
 
2013-01-16 10:55:21 AM  

clane: How are you going to like it when a president you don't agree with starts using their powers in the same dictating style.


oh i didn't like it when bush did it either.
(so i voted for barr then johnson.)
 
2013-01-16 10:55:38 AM  

Deep Contact: They've been acting like kings since JFK.


Have you heard of the emancipation proclamation?
 
2013-01-16 10:56:01 AM  

DamnYankees: Then he's an idiot. That's NOT why we fought the American Revolution. Like, at all.

We didn't fight because we had a monarch. We fought because we didn't have representation in Parliament.


Done in one. One thing I seem to find consistent about these new Republicans is their utter inability to grasp the most basic of historical and political concepts.

Why didn't Randy say anything when Bush invaded Iraq? Oh, that's right, that was "OK".
 
2013-01-16 10:56:46 AM  
he's ron paul's kid..of course he's a loon!
 
2013-01-16 10:56:49 AM  

mentula: so ... what did he think about bush, i wonder.


RINO
 
2013-01-16 10:57:12 AM  
What do you think they're going to charge him with? "Presidenting while being Black"?
 
2013-01-16 10:57:12 AM  

mentula: clane: How are you going to like it when a president you don't agree with starts using their powers in the same dictating style.

oh i didn't like it when bush did it either.
(so i voted for barr then johnson.)


So you believe the president of the US is not allowed to give an order to the organizations in the executive branch?
 
2013-01-16 10:57:16 AM  

DamnYankees: DeathCipris: Oh right, dictatorship (monarch if they consider themselves regal).

I'm sure the Brits would appreciative to know they are living under a dictatorship. You should let them know.


They have a Parliamentary government...and a prime minister. The royal family are more or less figureheads. Try again.
 
2013-01-16 10:57:25 AM  

Infernalist: earthworm2.0: WhoopAssWayne: Barack Obama is not a king - he's just a run of the mill fascist. Just look at the reports of him using some kind of mythical 'executive powers' to strip our gun rights and bypass congress and any type of vote. He fears a vote, he fears democracy. Typical scumbag fascist.

0/10

You don't rate the bad ones, man. You ignore the bad ones.


If it is a troll, its bad. But if it was meant as sarcasm its kind of ok.
 
2013-01-16 10:57:49 AM  

seadoo2006: TheOther: He was raised by RON PAUL.

RON PAUL, how did you get your kid THIS STUPID?

He named his kid after Ayn Rand ... obvious retard is obvious.


That is false. Whoever told you that is content to lie to you. You should question their motives.
 
2013-01-16 10:57:49 AM  

Corvus: Deep Contact: They've been acting like kings since JFK.

Have you heard of the emancipation proclamation?


Seizing enemy property or material during a time of war by the commanding officer is nothing new.
 
2013-01-16 10:58:15 AM  

japlemon: miss diminutive: Obama's a king now? So I gather he recently abolished term limits and appointed an heir to the throne?

stay tune, boy-o


When do you start the revolution?
 
2013-01-16 10:58:21 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-16 10:58:22 AM  

DeathCipris: They have a Parliamentary government...and a prime minister. The royal family are more or less figureheads. Try again.


They had that in 1776 also. Lord North was the Prime Minister and ran the country.
 
2013-01-16 10:58:30 AM  
We could eliminate all the confusion and debate and arm embryos. 2, count em, 2 solutions in one.
 
2013-01-16 10:58:40 AM  

DeathCipris: DamnYankees: DeathCipris: Oh right, dictatorship (monarch if they consider themselves regal).

I'm sure the Brits would appreciative to know they are living under a dictatorship. You should let them know.

They have a Parliamentary government...and a prime minister. The royal family are more or less figureheads. Try again.


The have a monarchy that allows the parliament to run things. Try again.
 
2013-01-16 10:58:56 AM  

ccundiff: Infernalist: earthworm2.0: WhoopAssWayne: Barack Obama is not a king - he's just a run of the mill fascist. Just look at the reports of him using some kind of mythical 'executive powers' to strip our gun rights and bypass congress and any type of vote. He fears a vote, he fears democracy. Typical scumbag fascist.

0/10

You don't rate the bad ones, man. You ignore the bad ones.

If it is a troll, its bad. But if it was meant as sarcasm its kind of ok.


I disagree. Some trolls are 'good' at their job and they deserve recognition. It's a shame that Fark has so very few good trolls. It's a damned shame. The vast majority of them are complete crap and unworthy of a response.
 
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