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2013-01-16 09:54:39 AM  
One of these days Dodge might actually produce a quality car.


This is their followup ricerboy neon bullshiat. I fully expect Darts to be harassing me in the coming years.

Dear Charger, you aren't that fast either, quit trying to race me.
 
2013-01-16 09:57:53 AM  
Mr. Marchionne attributed the slow sales to the car being launched last year with a manual transmission, an option that appeals to only 5% of the marketplace in the U.S. He also said the engine and transmission options need to be improved.

"We learned the hard way," Mr. Marchionne said. "And we learned quickly."


You didn't realize that when you rebadged a Fiat that you had to give it an auto so that we could talk on our phones, drink our Big Gulps, and masturbate to Christie Brinkley on the way to our cubicle jobs?

Fail, dude. How did you get this gig? I don't even need an alarm on my car in America. I've got a manual.
 
2013-01-16 10:16:02 AM  
Maybe next they can "reboot" the Pinto
 
zez
2013-01-16 10:25:06 AM  
I might have to get one, I didn't know you could still buy a manual transmission in America.
 
2013-01-16 10:34:46 AM  

zez: I might have to get one, I didn't know you could still buy a manual transmission in America.


My car only comes in manual.
 
2013-01-16 10:39:05 AM  
Bringing back the Swinger edition?  That would be so boss.
 
2013-01-16 10:42:33 AM  
I wouldn't buy a car with a 4 cylinder. I would rather have a 6 cylinder with no turbo charger.
 
2013-01-16 10:42:42 AM  
They need to bring this version back.
 
2013-01-16 10:45:28 AM  
image.moparmusclemagazine.com

"Hey there, foxy ladies.  See you at the key party."
 
2013-01-16 10:56:10 AM  
The rule for the manual is, unless it is sold to performance folks, you're just wasting your time at this point.

/although it really annoys me how I can't get M6s in most daily drivers anymore
 
2013-01-16 11:10:00 AM  
Perhaps they could bring back the slant 6?

Traffic sucks to much around here to want a manual.
 
2013-01-16 11:15:16 AM  

Girion47: One of these days Dodge might actually produce a quality car.


This is their followup ricerboy neon bullshiat. I fully expect Darts to be harassing me in the coming years.

Dear Charger, you aren't that fast either, quit trying to race me.


*clicks profile* yep, another WRX owner that thinks they are the fastest thing on the road. The  "ricer boy" comment threw me off a bit. What do you think YOURE driving? LOL! And please tell me those are your wife/gf's dogs...

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-16 11:34:04 AM  
I went to buy a car 6 mos ago I only wanted a TWO DOOR w/ MANUAL trans. I looked at every make mostly I they mentioned "we have a four door auto..." I got a VW GTI. It took awhile to find one.
 
2013-01-16 11:40:03 AM  
I get harassed by far more WRXs and GTIs than Neons when I'm on the road in my GT500.

They're all ricers.

And in the Dart's case, it's a tarted up Alfa Romeo with the Dodge grill badly stuffed onto the front end.  Fail.

/No replacement for displacement
 
2013-01-16 11:46:06 AM  

Cretony38: I went to buy a car 6 mos ago I only wanted a TWO DOOR w/ MANUAL trans.


This is what I went with:
www.leasetrader.com

/Not my actual car, but cosmetically identical.
 
2013-01-16 12:02:11 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Maybe next they can "reboot" the Pinto


Pinto was Ford. I wouldn't mind a new Dodge Dart, but I can't afford one at the present time.
 
2013-01-16 12:08:40 PM  

MadManMoon: I get harassed by far more WRXs and GTIs than Neons when I'm on the road in my GT500.


The first generation ones that are still barely running in a lot of cases are just sad. I had one rev at my CTS-V a month ago. Blue smoke came out of the tailpipe and then it stalled out. So many of those cars were butchered by owners that just farked around with the force induction and has no clue how to do anything right. I was looking at getting one for the winter utility of having AWD and a decent ground clearance on Michigan's dirt roads. I managed to find two that hadn't been ruined with low quality mods.

/ended up buying a 3000GT VR4, the thing is a mechanical maintenance nightmare but has so many cool little technological toys (all wheel drive and steering, the variable spoiler, etc)
//it's going to take me all winter just to undo the damage the previous's owner's incompetence and neglect
///then I get it up to 450 HP or so and have fun
 
2013-01-16 12:15:59 PM  

ha-ha-guy: The first generation ones that are still barely running in a lot of cases are just sad. I had one rev at my CTS-V a month ago. Blue smoke came out of the tailpipe and then it stalled out. So many of those cars were butchered by owners that just farked around with the force induction and has no clue how to do anything right. I was looking at getting one for the winter utility of having AWD and a decent ground clearance on Michigan's dirt roads. I managed to find two that hadn't been ruined with low quality mods.

/ended up buying a 3000GT VR4, the thing is a mechanical maintenance nightmare but has so many cool little technological toys (all wheel drive and steering, the variable spoiler, etc)
//it's going to take me all winter just to undo the damage the previous's owner's incompetence and neglect
///then I get it up to 450 HP or so and have fun


Excellent rides, both!  I'm a Ford guy (obviously), but the desire for a 556-hp manual-transmission station wagon is VERY strong...so very tempted!

Whaddya think of the C7 'Vette?

/Have you favorited as "GM Engineer"
//Assuming people on the internet tell the truth
 
2013-01-16 12:17:40 PM  
I don't mind the new Dart, but why have 4 engine options?

In the end, I think they would do better to just import the Alpha Romeos.
 
2013-01-16 12:35:41 PM  

MadManMoon: Whaddya think of the C7 'Vette?

/Have you favorited as "GM Engineer"
//Assuming people on the internet tell the truth


The direct injected V8 is an amazing power train and I have nothing but good things to say about it. I'm really happy with the idea to move the baseline in the direction of performance, but also econ with the direct injection and the displacement on demand. I think that will help main stream as something you might buy as a semi daily driver with a lot of people. The engine itself itself has all the design features you need to slap forced induction on it and produce a monster Grand Sport and ZO6 versions.

I've been arguing to bring DoD into the performance vehicles for awhile so I'm a big fan to see my faction won. I love my Grand Prix GXP with its 5.3L LS4 and the ability to get 33-35 MPH highway if I don't overly abuse the gas pedal. One minute I'm cruising along in 4 cylinder mode just sipping the gas, the next I have the pedal down and all the torque I need to pass that damn semi truck (and plenty left over). So to see it becoming mainstream is awesome. For awhile I was afraid the V6 + Forced Induction lobby was going to win. Getting the direct injected and DoD V8 through was a major win.

All that said, I think the handling and suspension is where it is really going to shine. 450 HP or 600 HP isn't going to be all that useful if you have to mash the brakes for every curve in the road. The C7 plays nicely on the skid pad and should review well compared to its Euro competitors.

As a related note, back when they were making the C6 ZO6, the Vette engineers were mocking us for making the LSA for the CTS-V. "Hahaha, why didn't you 'tards just slap forced induction on a LS7? What do you mean the cylinder walls are too thin? You idiots don't know anything." I was sitting there at Milford one day and watched a pair of Vette engineers in fire suits flee a burning test mule after a cylinder wall ruptured.

/all that said the styling on the rear looks like a GT-R and a Camaro had sex and produced a bastard
//must find the guy that did the rear tail lights and beat him
///the internals are still sweet though
 
2013-01-16 12:38:52 PM  

ha-ha-guy: MadManMoon: I get harassed by far more WRXs and GTIs than Neons when I'm on the road in my GT500.

The first generation ones that are still barely running in a lot of cases are just sad. I had one rev at my CTS-V a month ago. Blue smoke came out of the tailpipe and then it stalled out. So many of those cars were butchered by owners that just farked around with the force induction and has no clue how to do anything right. I was looking at getting one for the winter utility of having AWD and a decent ground clearance on Michigan's dirt roads. I managed to find two that hadn't been ruined with low quality mods.

/ended up buying a 3000GT VR4, the thing is a mechanical maintenance nightmare but has so many cool little technological toys (all wheel drive and steering, the variable spoiler, etc)
//it's going to take me all winter just to undo the damage the previous's owner's incompetence and neglect
///then I get it up to 450 HP or so and have fun


I've wanted a first-gen/bugeye WRX for ages now (since, well, 2002, hah). But not only are the ones left around usually farked with (and badly)... but they still hold their value extremely well. Last time I looked, high-mileage, crap condition examples were still like $10k. No, I'll just hold on to my 325Ci until it gives out on me, thanks anyway.
 
2013-01-16 12:42:35 PM  
www.mst3kinfo.com

16 men on a dead Dodge Dart
 
2013-01-16 12:50:11 PM  

ha-ha-guy: I've been arguing to bring DoD into the performance vehicles for awhile so I'm a big fan to see my faction won. I love my Grand Prix GXP with its 5.3L LS4 and the ability to get 33-35 MPH highway if I don't overly abuse the gas pedal. One minute I'm cruising along in 4 cylinder mode just sipping the gas, the next I have the pedal down and all the torque I need to pass that damn semi truck (and plenty left over). So to see it becoming mainstream is awesome. For awhile I was afraid the V6 + Forced Induction lobby was going to win. Getting the direct injected and DoD V8 through was a major win.


What kind of fuel economy improvements are they expecting with DoD in the 'Vette application?  I know the weight and aerodynamics are definitely on the right side here, compared to a pickup truck.

My wife's daily driver is a 2011 F-150 with the EcoBoost V6, and we absolutely love it.  We have a 19MPG lifetime rating after almost 60K miles, and it'll tow her fully loaded horse trailer like it's not even there.  It's obvious that Ford has chosen the FI V6 route with EcoBoost, and I think it's working well in that application.  Then again, Ford has gone all-in with DOHC engines, while GM is OHV.

Did you work directly on the CTS-V program?  If so...jealous.

/Naval architect and marine engineer
//Wish I went to work for Ford or GM as a powertrain engineer
///Three-story slow-speed diesels for merchant ships are pretty cool in their own right, too
 
2013-01-16 01:05:53 PM  
As someone who's about to buy his first car (been driving my parents' hand-me-downs since I learned to drive) and drives by the GM tech center almost everyday, I'm getting a kick out of this thread. Cobo is going to be more fun than usual this year.
 
2013-01-16 01:19:14 PM  
I wish I owned and drove a fuselage-styled big Mopar from the early '70s. Then I'd have a trunk big enough to HOLD a new Dodge Dart.

Did you know that in '69 and '70 you could get big Newports with 3-speed manual transmissions?
 
2013-01-16 01:26:55 PM  

tricycleracer: Cretony38: I went to buy a car 6 mos ago I only wanted a TWO DOOR w/ MANUAL trans.

This is what I went with:
[www.leasetrader.com image 640x480]

/Not my actual car, but cosmetically identical.


I got one of those, too. Liked it better than the 3-series 2-door. Also nice to have a car thats a bit rare compared to the ubiquitous 3-series.
 
2013-01-16 01:40:11 PM  

ha-ha-guy: ended up buying a 3000GT VR4, the thing is a mechanical maintenance nightmare but has so many cool little technological toys


Awesome. Always wanted a VR4. I owned 3 turbo DSM's until I discovered the bliss of the 1999+ v8 silverado, think I still have turbo parts cams and a gasket kit somewhere... Now I've got a 6.0 L76 powered, 9.5" rear GMC, DoD works great on mine anyways, I run Pennzoil Ultra, just incase. Though the tinker itch is coming back...
 
2013-01-16 01:54:00 PM  

MadManMoon: ha-ha-guy: I've been arguing to bring DoD into the performance vehicles for awhile so I'm a big fan to see my faction won. I love my Grand Prix GXP with its 5.3L LS4 and the ability to get 33-35 MPH highway if I don't overly abuse the gas pedal. One minute I'm cruising along in 4 cylinder mode just sipping the gas, the next I have the pedal down and all the torque I need to pass that damn semi truck (and plenty left over). So to see it becoming mainstream is awesome. For awhile I was afraid the V6 + Forced Induction lobby was going to win. Getting the direct injected and DoD V8 through was a major win.

What kind of fuel economy improvements are they expecting with DoD in the 'Vette application?


18/29 is what the sticker on the side will say. If you are really light on the gas and never kick it out of 4 cylinder mode, mid to low 20s and mid to high 30s is reachable. The car displays real time fuel econ so you can play the fuel econ game real time.

It's obvious that Ford has chosen the FI V6 route with EcoBoost, and I think it's working well in that application.  Then again, Ford has gone all-in with DOHC engines, while GM is OHV.

Really both have their merits and I think we'll see GM FI V6s for some applications. For the Corvette though there was a push to keep that V8 rumble.

Did you work directly on the CTS-V program?  If so...jealous.

I did. I was part of the HPV Division (High performance, not the genital virus thing). The whole place got the ax during the bailout though. These days I'm more kept around for my knowledge of China and my contacts over there, as opposed to my engineering acumen. I'm an EE with a degree from the 1980s which makes me a walking fossil to the new kids.


/Naval architect and marine engineer
//Wish I went to work for Ford or GM as a powertrain engineer
///Three-story slow-speed diesels for merchant ships are pretty cool in their own right, too


They are, and from 2006 to 2011 or so odds are you were a lot safer. We had mass firings, security walking people out, all that fun stuff. these days it is contractor central and a lot of the old hands are gone. The corporate culture has shifted and the shift killed a lot of people. Do you have anything on the Great Lakes? Whenever I go to the Ren Cen on the Detroit River I watch the lake freighters go chugging by.
 
2013-01-16 01:57:34 PM  

Girion47: One of these days Dodge might actually produce a quality car.


This is their followup ricerboy neon bullshiat. I fully expect Darts to be harassing me in the coming years.

Dear Charger, you aren't that fast either, quit trying to race me.


www.deviantart.com
 
2013-01-16 02:02:11 PM  

angry_scientist: ha-ha-guy: ended up buying a 3000GT VR4, the thing is a mechanical maintenance nightmare but has so many cool little technological toys

Awesome. Always wanted a VR4. I owned 3 turbo DSM's until I discovered the bliss of the 1999+ v8 silverado, think I still have turbo parts cams and a gasket kit somewhere... Now I've got a 6.0 L76 powered, 9.5" rear GMC, DoD works great on mine anyways, I run Pennzoil Ultra, just incase. Though the tinker itch is coming back...


Odds are you should be fine, maybe a bit of lifter click at the worst. Our really bad moment was DoD was in the 1980s when we tried having a V8 with 6 and 4 cylinder modes. The 6 cylinder one was a disaster since the block was out of balance. Those were disasters and the entire car would start vibrating.

/I keep waiting for someone to have a DoD V10 where you run one bank for an inline 5
//or a V12 with 6 and 4 modes
 
2013-01-16 02:14:01 PM  

ha-ha-guy: 18/29 is what the sticker on the side will say. If you are really light on the gas and never kick it out of 4 cylinder mode, mid to low 20s and mid to high 30s is reachable. The car displays real time fuel econ so you can play the fuel econ game real time.


That's fantastic.  I am sorely tempted to get a Vette as a track car (the GT500 is fun, but WAY too heavy and WAY too floaty for a road course).  Amazing engineering feat.

Really both have their merits and I think we'll see GM FI V6s for some applications. For the Corvette though there was a push to keep that V8 rumble.

Yeah, I couldn't imagine a Corvette without the V8.

I did. I was part of the HPV Division (High performance, not the genital virus thing). The whole place got the ax during the bailout though. These days I'm more kept around for my knowledge of China and my contacts over there, as opposed to my engineering acumen. I'm an EE with a degree from the 1980s which makes me a walking fossil to the new kids.

They are, and from 2006 to 2011 or so odds are you were a lot safer.We had mass firings, security walking people out, all that fun stuff. these days it is contractor central and a lot of the old hands are gone. The corporate culture has shifted and the shift killed a lot of people. Do you have anything on the Great Lakes? Whenever I go to the Ren Cen on the Detroit River I watch the lake freighters go chugging by.


I've got a friend that works finance at Ford Global HQ, and he has the same horror stories.  I ended up going Government, so job security has been pretty nice (minus the impending fiscal cliff and the rumor of 22-day furloughs this year), and I kinda miss the commercial side of things.  Unfortunately, that market is nonexistent in the US, so it's basically Navy, offshore supply (oil support), or yachts.  I've been working submarines most of my career, which I LOVE.
 
2013-01-16 02:15:39 PM  

Girion47: zez: I might have to get one, I didn't know you could still buy a manual transmission in America.

My car only comes in manual.


Same here.

i29.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-16 02:18:09 PM  
My Acura brings all the ladies to the yard.

I cannot wait for the new NSX.
 
2013-01-16 02:20:51 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: Girion47: zez: I might have to get one, I didn't know you could still buy a manual transmission in America.

My car only comes in manual.

Same here.

[i29.photobucket.com image 850x565]


YAY torque-steer.

I almost bought one of those, but the longevity of subaru, the AWD, and online community made the WRX so much more appealing.

I saw a 2010 Speed3 the other day, your color, the red had already faded to pink.
 
2013-01-16 02:40:13 PM  

ha-ha-guy: /I keep waiting for someone to have a DoD V10 where you run one bank for an inline 5
//or a V12 with 6 and 4 modes


That is a good point, you don't see that much anymore- putting a slightly larger than needed engine for torque, than choking it with an econo induction system for mpg and emissions. Worst case being the 90's 454SS truck with fuel setup similar to a 3.8. Sure made tinkering fun though! On the flip side, even the L76 shares enough with the LS3 and LS7, only differences being block/pistons, cam and tune mostly. Not really sure which approach I prefer, as just a cam/tune job on the L76 is ~$1500ish.
 
2013-01-16 02:42:27 PM  

MadManMoon: I've got a friend that works finance at Ford Global HQ, and he has the same horror stories.  I ended up going Government, so job security has been pretty nice (minus the impending fiscal cliff and the rumor of 22-day furloughs this year), and I kinda miss the commercial side of things.  Unfortunately, that market is nonexistent in the US, so it's basically Navy, offshore supply (oil support), or yachts.  I've been working submarines most of my career, which I LOVE.


My favorite story was they fired a whole bunch of old guys who worked on an older platform we no longer made in North America, but still sold overseas. One day an executive comes wandering in and tells the younger guys: "Hey, we need to update X, Y, and Z." The younger guys look blankly at him and say they don't where the blueprints are. "Well they're on the server somewhere, just search for them." Except they aren't, because they made before CAD and they are entirely pen and paper. In fact no one can find them because they had security walk the old guys before they could tell others which subbasement file the designs are squirreled away in. So now one of the old guys is back at 3x his previous pay as a contractor just to explain the whole concept of physical blueprints to the younger generation. The terror in their eyes when they find out it isn't any kind of CAD program is rather amusing.

Speaking of submarines, is AIP (be it the Stirling Engine or some other non nuke option) all it is cracked up to be? As in if I start ranting and raving in Fark Navy threads for the creation of a SSP fleet to operate in littoral waters, while demanding more Seawolf sized vessels for deep water ops, is that actually valid or am I being a moron? After all you can't kill reactor pumps on a nuke and that means you have a moving part making noise at all times. I've always been curious as to if nuclear is still better or if we cling to nuclear because of Rickover and the fact we the first country to get good at it.
 
2013-01-16 02:58:28 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: Girion47: zez: I might have to get one, I didn't know you could still buy a manual transmission in America.

My car only comes in manual.

Same here.

[i29.photobucket.com image 850x565]


The issue I have is that if you don't want a performance-oriented car, in the US that generally means cheap entry level crap car if you want a manual. In so many cars, especially with the midsize sedans, the manual is only attached to the lowest level engine/trim line. If you can even get one
 
2013-01-16 03:08:25 PM  

Enfenestrate: Fish in a Barrel: Girion47: zez: I might have to get one, I didn't know you could still buy a manual transmission in America.

My car only comes in manual.

Same here.

[i29.photobucket.com image 850x565]

The issue I have is that if you don't want a performance-oriented car, in the US that generally means cheap entry level crap car if you want a manual. In so many cars, especially with the midsize sedans, the manual is only attached to the lowest level engine/trim line. If you can even get one


I wouldn't call the Speed3 or WRX "Performance" They're 4-bangers with a turbo that can outrun a lot shiatty american muscle cars.

But they're also AWD, come in hatchback for utility, and my WRX has roof racks that I can put on in less that 5 minutes...literally.

These cars are so versatile.
 
2013-01-16 03:33:33 PM  
Had an 06 Ram Megacab Hemi which was an awesome truck. Had no problems and the resale value was great. Had never had a Dodge before but the Dailmer influence was clearly showing up by the 06 redesign. Sold it in a week on EBay and picked up a 2012 Ram 2500 Big Horn 4x4 with the high output Cummins turbo diesel and 6 speed automatic. 800 ft lbs of torque at 1900 rpm and an exhaust brake like an 18 Wheeler makes for serious fun and lulz. The interior quality is first class and my previous ride before the trucks was a Mazda RX8 so l know good quality. Got $10,600 off NATO so l am loving it. Gonna tow the 95 Talon TSi with estimated 450bhp so really have the best of both worlds.

Chrysler had come a long way since the 80s K car and your mom's minivan. Check out a new Hemi Charger RT fully loaded road and track package for $289 a month lease with 2 grand down. Also the SRT line up with the new Viper, 6.4 Hemi Charger and Challenger are the best damn performance bargains in the world.
 
2013-01-16 04:09:22 PM  
I've been pretty impressed with Chrysler's new products. I never thought I'd purchase a Chrysler product - but I just purchased a Challenger (got the v6 - this is going to be a daily driver). I've been very happy with my decision - decent gas mileage, lots of space (for a coupe) and pretty decent styling for what it is.
 
2013-01-16 04:13:39 PM  
MSRP, dang spell check.
 
2013-01-16 04:20:08 PM  

NyNy21: I've been pretty impressed with Chrysler's new products. I never thought I'd purchase a Chrysler product - but I just purchased a Challenger (got the v6 - this is going to be a daily driver). I've been very happy with my decision - decent gas mileage, lots of space (for a coupe) and pretty decent styling for what it is.


Damn nice ride. I was seriously considering the Challenger. The build and interior quality and resale value are very nice. The salesman for the Ram was saying how they have so many Mustang and Camaro owners trade in for a Challenger since you can actually use the back seat and see out of the Dodge unlike Camaro. The Charger R/T is another great bang for the buck but after having the truck I couldn't go back to a car since the truck has so much utility for towing and hauling.
 
2013-01-16 04:32:53 PM  

Girion47: I wouldn't call the Speed3 or WRX "Performance" They're 4-bangers with a turbo that can outrun a lot shiatty american muscle cars.


i29.photobucket.com

/not gonna get into this argument today
 
2013-01-16 04:44:00 PM  

Farking Sweet: NyNy21: I've been pretty impressed with Chrysler's new products. I never thought I'd purchase a Chrysler product - but I just purchased a Challenger (got the v6 - this is going to be a daily driver). I've been very happy with my decision - decent gas mileage, lots of space (for a coupe) and pretty decent styling for what it is.

Damn nice ride. I was seriously considering the Challenger. The build and interior quality and resale value are very nice. The salesman for the Ram was saying how they have so many Mustang and Camaro owners trade in for a Challenger since you can actually use the back seat and see out of the Dodge unlike Camaro. The Charger R/T is another great bang for the buck but after having the truck I couldn't go back to a car since the truck has so much utility for towing and hauling.


The backseat and trunk space is what sold me on the Challenger. It has about the same amount of trunk space as my Grand Prix with more head room in the back.

What kind of truck did you get?
 
2013-01-16 04:49:18 PM  
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After reading this thread.
 
2013-01-16 05:00:42 PM  

NyNy21: I've been pretty impressed with Chrysler's new products. I never thought I'd purchase a Chrysler product - but I just purchased a Challenger (got the v6 - this is going to be a daily driver). I've been very happy with my decision - decent gas mileage, lots of space (for a coupe) and pretty decent styling for what it is.


Excellent choice brotha! I drive an 09 RT(see profile) and for those interested, I ALSO drive a 2002 WRX in the winter LOL!
 
2013-01-16 05:06:31 PM  

BEER_ME_in_CT: NyNy21: I've been pretty impressed with Chrysler's new products. I never thought I'd purchase a Chrysler product - but I just purchased a Challenger (got the v6 - this is going to be a daily driver). I've been very happy with my decision - decent gas mileage, lots of space (for a coupe) and pretty decent styling for what it is.

Excellent choice brotha! I drive an 09 RT(see profile) and for those interested, I ALSO drive a 2002 WRX in the winter LOL!


I have two sets of tires, the summer "performance" and the winter "performance". I've never lost traction in the winters, but going over wet leaves in the summers had me sliding once, that was fun.
 
2013-01-16 05:12:32 PM  

NyNy21: Farking Sweet: NyNy21: I've been pretty impressed with Chrysler's new products. I never thought I'd purchase a Chrysler product - but I just purchased a Challenger (got the v6 - this is going to be a daily driver). I've been very happy with my decision - decent gas mileage, lots of space (for a coupe) and pretty decent styling for what it is.

Damn nice ride. I was seriously considering the Challenger. The build and interior quality and resale value are very nice. The salesman for the Ram was saying how they have so many Mustang and Camaro owners trade in for a Challenger since you can actually use the back seat and see out of the Dodge unlike Camaro. The Charger R/T is another great bang for the buck but after having the truck I couldn't go back to a car since the truck has so much utility for towing and hauling.

The backseat and trunk space is what sold me on the Challenger. It has about the same amount of trunk space as my Grand Prix with more head room in the back.

What kind of truck did you get?


2012 Ram 2500 4x4 with the Cummins HO diesel.
 
2013-01-16 05:34:10 PM  
Listen Farkers. You all did this thread wrong. What is supposed to happen is we all shiat on Chrysler, then Kurmudgeon comes in and yells at us about minivans. There was way too much goodwill in here today. Way too much.

/slams door
 
2013-01-16 05:48:03 PM  
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