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2013-01-16 10:04:03 AM
I think it's every speed junkie's wet dream to beat a speeding train at the railroad crossing.
 
2013-01-16 10:04:58 AM
One of my favorite pastimes in this modern age of ours is to browse LiveLeak and Youtube for videos of trains running in to things. Intellectually it is a satisfying glimpse of the awesomeness that is physics. On a more visceral level there is usually a very loud bang. Maybe there will be dashcam footage of this later today.
 
2013-01-16 10:05:10 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-16 10:05:52 AM
I live above a railroad crossing and I hear a train horn at least once a day. Given enough time, every crossing will result in a death.
 
2013-01-16 10:06:26 AM
What does a Yellow light mean?
 
2013-01-16 10:07:17 AM
Everyone should watch this Safety Video
 
2013-01-16 10:07:36 AM
I really do not understand people who try to beat trains at crossings. On a list of things ranked according to their potential payoff versus their potential risk, that's waaaaaay down there for me.

Risking my life playing chicken with a 1/2 mile long line of steel to possibly save a couple minutes on my trip just doesn't seem wise.
 
2013-01-16 10:08:30 AM
gaminghell.co.uk
 
2013-01-16 10:11:18 AM
So many dumb ways to die.
 
2013-01-16 10:12:49 AM

vudukungfu: What does a Yellow light mean?


imageshack.us
 
2013-01-16 10:13:45 AM
www.movieactors.com
I watched you very carefully. Red light stop, green light go, yellow light go very fast.
 
2013-01-16 10:19:15 AM
If there is a traffic signal (New York), when the train is a 1/4 mile down the track it will pre-empt the signal so it is safe.
 
2013-01-16 10:29:50 AM
Reminds me of a Mr. Giles cartoon (Daily Telegraph, UK, from 1940s to about 2000).

It shows a British family in a much-too-small sail boat in peril of being swept under a large ship and somebody is quoting the old chesnut that steam has to give way to sail. The cartoon has been done before but Mr. Giles was a genius and could get away with a lot. As a matter of fact, he was a genial old British Communist working for a right wing newspaper owned by Lord Beaverbrook and everybody loved him for his common sense and his gentle satire. He had the rare gift of making people from the lowest hooligan to the Great and the Good look human and often loveable while exposing their follies and foibles to gentle Horatian satire and good-natured comedy. The Giles family migrated routinely from working class through lower middle to prosperous middle class with nobody caring a bit about the "continuity error" involved.

As my uncle, formerly with the Canadian armed forces point out, the stopping distance of a warship, even at low speed, is several lengths of the ship, so bugger "steam gives way to sail". It's just one of those helpful rules of thumb that don't work very well in real life once physics comes into play.

Or to quote my touchstone quotation on reality, Philip K. Dick defined reality as "that which, when you cease to believe in it, continues to exist".

Physics trumps right of way, something I have to remind myself every day when I cross the street at the light. When jaywalking, of course, you merely have a need for speed and good judgment.
 
2013-01-16 10:30:20 AM
Why didn't the train just steer out of the way?
 
2013-01-16 10:30:31 AM

vudukungfu: What does a Yellow light mean?


i47.tinypic.com
Slow down!!!
 
2013-01-16 10:36:15 AM

Boris S. Wort: vudukungfu: What does a Yellow light mean?

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Slow down!!!


Thank you.
 
2013-01-16 10:40:54 AM

MagSeven: [www.movieactors.com image 504x362]
I watched you very carefully. Red light stop, green light go, yellow light go very fast.


'Bengo! *spits*
 
2013-01-16 10:44:52 AM
Eh, my dad won with a train collision. The train derailed and his car was fixable.

/ you have to hit them juuuuuust right.
 
2013-01-16 10:45:41 AM
CSB: I witnessed a train hitting a car on my way home from work last week and can confirm the car never stood a chance. It didn't even slow the train down. Luckily the driver was able to get out in time, because she wouldn't have survived. The car was completely destroyed. From what I could see, there was little to no damage to the train.
 
2013-01-16 10:47:30 AM
www.aerojockey.com
 
2013-01-16 10:49:16 AM
HEADS UP!

www.cbc.ca
 
2013-01-16 10:49:19 AM

Boris S. Wort: vudukungfu: What does a Yellow light mean?

[i47.tinypic.com image 400x296]
Slow down!!!


Fine!

"Whaaat...... does...... a ...... yellow...... light.....mean?"
 
2013-01-16 10:50:42 AM
Having spent a sum total of about 2-3 days waiting on trains in my life I love the thought of beating a train someday. I'm also aware how stupid an idea that would be.
It's disappointing to be reminded some people don't have this level of common sense.

Fun point/advice to anyone living/travelling in London ON: There's a blind railway crossing on Florence St. just west of Highbury. Trains seemingly use it very rarely but about 2 years ago I nearly got a little too acquainted with a VIA train that way.
 
2013-01-16 10:56:50 AM

vudukungfu: What does a Yellow light mean?


Pipe the fark down!
 
2013-01-16 11:12:42 AM
My wife designs rail crossing signal systems.

/getting a kick
//her company has yet to have an accident in any of their crossings.
 
2013-01-16 11:13:51 AM
Trains are blameless, holy creatures.

/why don't they look?
 
2013-01-16 11:30:17 AM
I never witnessed a car being hit by a train, but I at least got to see one fall on a building once. The ties apparently failed and she tipped right onto it. The cleanup was more interesting.
 
2013-01-16 11:37:30 AM

Shenanigans!: CSB: I witnessed a train hitting a car on my way home from work last week and can confirm the car never stood a chance. It didn't even slow the train down. Luckily the driver was able to get out in time, because she wouldn't have survived. The car was completely destroyed. From what I could see, there was little to no damage to the train.


Locomotives (both freight and passenger) are designed to withstand hitting a dump truck without causing injury to the train operators. A train hitting a car is like a bug hitting your windscreen.
 
2013-01-16 11:45:03 AM

davidphogan: I never witnessed a car being hit by a train, but I at least got to see one fall on a building once. The ties apparently failed and she tipped right onto it. The cleanup was more interesting.


Here's a good one for you.
 
2013-01-16 11:58:15 AM

Tom_Slick: Everyone should watch this Safety Video


Came for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-01-16 12:07:32 PM

Polish Hussar: Tom_Slick: Everyone should watch this Safety Video

Came for this, leaving satisfied.


Thought it was this
 
2013-01-16 12:10:38 PM
Argh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw This.
 
2013-01-16 12:16:27 PM
that looks more like a trolley!
 
2013-01-16 12:36:10 PM
When teaching my kids to drive, they'd quote their drivers manual and state "I have the right-of-way!"

I would then correct them, and the drivers manual, using the "Lug-nut Law of Physics"

Vehicle Gross Weight x Speed (Momentum2)= "Right of Way"

Vehicle with the biggest lug-nuts, wins. Right of way doesn't mean crap when you're dead.

/safety first
 
2013-01-16 12:54:31 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: davidphogan: I never witnessed a car being hit by a train, but I at least got to see one fall on a building once. The ties apparently failed and she tipped right onto it. The cleanup was more interesting.

Here's a good one for you.


LOL! Why didn't they just push the car off the tracks???
 
2013-01-16 01:00:09 PM
"I'm a lighthouse. Your call."
 
2013-01-16 01:09:13 PM

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: Having spent a sum total of about 2-3 days waiting on trains in my life I love the thought of beating a train someday. I'm also aware how stupid an idea that would be.
It's disappointing to be reminded some people don't have this level of common sense.

Fun point/advice to anyone living/travelling in London ON: There's a blind railway crossing on Florence St. just west of Highbury. Trains seemingly use it very rarely but about 2 years ago I nearly got a little too acquainted with a VIA train that way.


It takes a special kind of stupid to race a 3 car light rail train. The crossing will clear in about 30 seconds.
 
2013-01-16 01:13:50 PM
My always favorite trains hitting cars call is where the driver didn't even bother to look to the left or the right before they did their turn or straight thru crossing. These are the same type of drivers who run down pedestrians and then try to say the car had the right of way.

/Its even more funny when a crossing gate is down and the driver doesn't notice it as it scrapes up and over his/her car.
//"but the gate was up!!!!, those scrapes were there since forever. whargarble!!!"
 
2013-01-16 01:21:16 PM

Jument: LOL! Why didn't they just push the car off the tracks???


Your guess is as good as mine.

Just recently here in San Diego a tow truck driver was killed after his truck was hit by a train. He was parked on the tracks assisting a disabled car. Those tracks have about 26 trains a day scream through between Amtrak and the Coaster but people still get hit all the time.

What I don't understand is why every time there is an accident like that or a suicide, the law enforcement agencies shut down the tracks for hours for an "investigation". What's to investigate? Someone was too stupid or too depressed to get out of the way of an oncoming train. It seems to me that the investigation should start and conclude with one phrase:

"Yep. Hit by a train."
 
2013-01-16 01:24:11 PM
As a resident of Calgary I can attest that there are a great deal of stupid people who dare trains to attack them on a daily basis. It's only a matter of time...
 
2013-01-16 01:28:08 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: Jument: LOL! Why didn't they just push the car off the tracks???

Your guess is as good as mine.

Just recently here in San Diego a tow truck driver was killed after his truck was hit by a train. He was parked on the tracks assisting a disabled car. Those tracks have about 26 trains a day scream through between Amtrak and the Coaster but people still get hit all the time.

What I don't understand is why every time there is an accident like that or a suicide, the law enforcement agencies shut down the tracks for hours for an "investigation". What's to investigate? Someone was too stupid or too depressed to get out of the way of an oncoming train. It seems to me that the investigation should start and conclude with one phrase:

"Yep. Hit by a train."


Needs a dramatic sunglasses
 
2013-01-16 01:32:27 PM
people are pretty stupid. although I will say the C-train is whisper quiet except for the horn. Have to really pay attention on the pedestrian crossing at Banff trail because the chain length fence in some lightings obscures the oncoming train as you cross. Bells and whistles on the one side do not sound until it is right ready to pull out. The training trains may not stop at all, so you'd have only seconds. Not really a problem if you pause between the sets of tracks(there is enough space to stand between two opposing trains and not get hit if you had to), but it is unnerving
 
2013-01-16 01:44:27 PM

Oldiron_79: What I don't understand is why every time there is an accident like that or a suicide, the law enforcement agencies shut down the tracks for hours for an "investigation". What's to investigate? Someone was too stupid or too depressed to get out of the way of an oncoming train. It seems to me that the investigation should start and conclude with one phrase:

"Yep. Hit by a train."

Needs a dramatic sunglasses


Sounds like this thread is going *sunglasses*... off the rails. Yeah!
 
2013-01-16 02:00:35 PM
i.imgur.com

I like trains.
 
2013-01-16 02:19:42 PM

TheGreatGazoo: Eh, my dad won with a train collision. The train derailed and his car was fixable.

/ you have to hit them juuuuuust right.


So it worked out well for everyone, then, eh?
 
2013-01-16 02:39:07 PM
Just yesterday the SO and I were talking about the first episode of Sliders where Red meant GO and Green meant STOP.

just yesterday!

/imagine that
 
2013-01-16 02:47:09 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: What I don't understand is why every time there is an accident like that or a suicide, the law enforcement agencies shut down the tracks for hours for an "investigation". What's to investigate?


That it wasn't a homicide where the perp decided to make it look like a suicide by putting the body in a car and then leaving the car on the tracks?

Also, in cases like that, typically they have to relieve the engineer and maybe some of the other train crew of duty and send in replacements, and that takes time. Striking a human being on the tracks is a pretty traumatic event for the train crew. It's not like they dust themselves off and go right back to work. They're usually pretty shaken up. Even with counseling afterwards, a goodly number of those poor folks never end up going back to work in that field again. Sucks.
 
2013-01-16 03:30:05 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Why didn't the train just steer out of the way?


I can't understand why a comment like this cracks me up so much.

I'm better than this.
 
2013-01-16 03:35:17 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: Jument: LOL! Why didn't they just push the car off the tracks???

Your guess is as good as mine.

Just recently here in San Diego a tow truck driver was killed after his truck was hit by a train. He was parked on the tracks assisting a disabled car. Those tracks have about 26 trains a day scream through between Amtrak and the Coaster but people still get hit all the time.

What I don't understand is why every time there is an accident like that or a suicide, the law enforcement agencies shut down the tracks for hours for an "investigation". What's to investigate? Someone was too stupid or too depressed to get out of the way of an oncoming train. It seems to me that the investigation should start and conclude with one phrase:

"Yep. Hit by a train."


The bolded part is one of the things they need to investigate -- they need to know if the person was too stupid to get out of the way, too depressed, too drunk, was pushed, was trying to outrun the cops, etc.

Then they gotta figure out the identity so that they can contact the next of kin, interview witnesses, and finally they need to determine who (if anyone) will be on the hook for cleanup costs.
 
2013-01-16 05:09:43 PM

geekbikerskum: It's not like they dust themselves off and go right back to work


Riverboat lineboatmen certainly do, when they find a dead body in the water. They talk about "floaters" like they're just what they sound like, turds that are to be expected in the day to day of regular work. (ok, maybe not daily, but they do find bodies regularly and they talk about them like, NBD.)
 
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