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(Examiner)   Alex Jones claims Obama has met the rules of impeachment under Article II, Section IV of the Constitution; fortunately for everyone else, Jones seems to have skipped Article I, Section III   (examiner.com) divider line 189
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2013-01-16 11:01:20 AM  
Uranus is Huge! claims Alex Jones has met the rules of involuntary commitment to a mental institution according to statutes in all fifty states
 
2013-01-16 11:02:39 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Speaking of both Presidents who have had Articles of Impeachment passed against them: Interestingly, both presidents were Democrats and, in both cases, impeachment proceedings were initiated by a Republican-controlled House in a highly-polarized political environment.

Interesting, but not surprising.


There's only been one justifiable presidential impeachment movement, and that was against Nixon. And even most sane Republicans agreed with it -- eventually.
 
2013-01-16 11:03:26 AM  
As I understand it, its Vice-President Fartbiden who was appointed in charge of these gun committee/recommendations. He is supposed to give them to President Balrog Hussein ChairMAO Fartbongo al-Chicago. If these recommendations include 'violations' of the Constitution, then shouldn't Biden be impeached and convicted  first since he originated the violations? You'd have to do that anyway because otherwise Biden would just become President if Fartbongo was impeached and convicted. Biden would have to be removed first, then any nomination to the V.P. slot (a la Gerald Ford) would be blocked by the House of  Representatives. Then you get that pesky 'Sheriff Near' out of office with another trial and.....voila! We finally have  President Boner and can get some real derp done passed into law. This is the problem for the House Republicans. They don't think these things through first. If you take the Fartbongo down first, the Fartbiden merely rises to takes its place in the Homocrat Hydra.
 
2013-01-16 11:05:11 AM  

justtray: No one is saying they're going to start shooting people though.


Uh, several people have threatened they'll start shooting people. Including one who threatened to do so if things went any farther.
 
2013-01-16 11:05:28 AM  
By the way, before you bunch of lavatory bowls get any ideas, Homocrat Hydra is the name of my next band. Not yours.
 
2013-01-16 11:06:26 AM  

Somacandra: As I understand it, its Vice-President Fartbiden who was appointed in charge of these gun committee/recommendations. He is supposed to give them to President Balrog Hussein ChairMAO Fartbongo al-Chicago. If these recommendations include 'violations' of the Constitution, then shouldn't Biden be impeached and convicted  first since he originated the violations? You'd have to do that anyway because otherwise Biden would just become President if Fartbongo was impeached and convicted. Biden would have to be removed first, then any nomination to the V.P. slot (a la Gerald Ford) would be blocked by the House of  Representatives. Then you get that pesky 'Sheriff Near' out of office with another trial and.....voila! We finally have  President Boner and can get some real derp done passed into law. This is the problem for the House Republicans. They don't think these things through first. If you take the Fartbongo down first, the Fartbiden merely rises to takes its place in the Homocrat Hydra.


That, sir, was a thing of beauty.
 
2013-01-16 11:07:42 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Somacandra: As I understand it, its Vice-President Fartbiden who was appointed in charge of these gun committee/recommendations. He is supposed to give them to President Balrog Hussein ChairMAO Fartbongo al-Chicago. If these recommendations include 'violations' of the Constitution, then shouldn't Biden be impeached and convicted  first since he originated the violations? You'd have to do that anyway because otherwise Biden would just become President if Fartbongo was impeached and convicted. Biden would have to be removed first, then any nomination to the V.P. slot (a la Gerald Ford) would be blocked by the House of  Representatives. Then you get that pesky 'Sheriff Near' out of office with another trial and.....voila! We finally have  President Boner and can get some real derp done passed into law. This is the problem for the House Republicans. They don't think these things through first. If you take the Fartbongo down first, the Fartbiden merely rises to takes its place in the Homocrat Hydra.

That, sir, was a thing of beauty.


You have low standards.
 
2013-01-16 11:08:15 AM  

Somacandra: By the way, before you bunch of lavatory bowls get any ideas, Homocrat Hydra is the name of my next band. Not yours.


Fine, I'm taking Lavatory Bowls.
 
2013-01-16 11:16:21 AM  

Fail in Human Form: someonelse: I'm not normally a big fan of using the blatantly crazy guy to represent a whole position on an issue. But, serious question: What is the difference between Jones' position on gun control and the NRA's position?

He gets demonized because of his conspiracy theories, it allows people who don't want to listen to just dismiss him out of hand.


Since aggressive conspiracy theorism represents a person heavily prone to critical flaws in reasoning
capability (Confirmation Bias), it's a perfectly legitimate reason to dismiss someone's opinions out of hand.

The broken clock being right twice a day is not a good argument for using one to tell time.
 
2013-01-16 11:17:01 AM  

Fail in Human Form: Somacandra: Fail in Human Form: You want to ban many, if not all, weapons from civilian hands.

This is what paranoids actually believe, and I should know.

/former NRA member

Fudd like typing detected.


If you're not an NRA acolyte then you're a fudd. Purge the heretic!
 
2013-01-16 11:20:31 AM  

toomuchwhargarbl: Fail in Human Form: someonelse: I'm not normally a big fan of using the blatantly crazy guy to represent a whole position on an issue. But, serious question: What is the difference between Jones' position on gun control and the NRA's position?

He gets demonized because of his conspiracy theories, it allows people who don't want to listen to just dismiss him out of hand.

Since aggressive conspiracy theorism represents a person heavily prone to critical flaws in reasoning
capability (Confirmation Bias), it's a perfectly legitimate reason to dismiss someone's opinions out of hand.

The broken clock being right twice a day is not a good argument for using one to tell time.


This is the same asshole who claims that Newtown was a false flag operation to confiscate firearms. Anyone who takes Alex Jones seriously is just as nutty as he is.
 
2013-01-16 11:25:07 AM  

Fart_Machine: toomuchwhargarbl: Fail in Human Form: someonelse: I'm not normally a big fan of using the blatantly crazy guy to represent a whole position on an issue. But, serious question: What is the difference between Jones' position on gun control and the NRA's position?

He gets demonized because of his conspiracy theories, it allows people who don't want to listen to just dismiss him out of hand.

Since aggressive conspiracy theorism represents a person heavily prone to critical flaws in reasoning
capability (Confirmation Bias), it's a perfectly legitimate reason to dismiss someone's opinions out of hand.

The broken clock being right twice a day is not a good argument for using one to tell time.

This is the same asshole who claims that Newtown was a false flag operation to confiscate firearms. Anyone who takes Alex Jones seriously is just as nutty as he is.


He justifies his belief by quoting something called "Operation Gladio" where we supposedly did the same thing in Europe.
 
2013-01-16 11:29:36 AM  

Fail in Human Form: Mercutio74: Fail in Human Form: Not trolling, I believe exactly what I say.

Except that the scolding preposterous response from the NRA made the media's gibberish look like the work of a Rhodes Scholar. I think even a cursory look at the issue, especially as it relates to the recent school shooting(s), suggests that there aren't a lot of mainstream media voices from either side of the issue making a ton of sense.

It's been a pure withdrawal into tired rhetoric from both sides, and neither one has a chance of being the "solution" to a problem that probably has more cultural causes than legislative ones.

That's because the NRA has refused to let people use this tragedy to force them into "giving in". If I feel I've given up far to much already, and you cry for more, what's left to fill time on the 24/7 news channels other than rhetoric?


What exactly have you given up? your right to a fully automatic? i feel so bad for you. I really do.
 
2013-01-16 11:30:21 AM  

Fail in Human Form: Fart_Machine: toomuchwhargarbl: Fail in Human Form: someonelse: I'm not normally a big fan of using the blatantly crazy guy to represent a whole position on an issue. But, serious question: What is the difference between Jones' position on gun control and the NRA's position?

He gets demonized because of his conspiracy theories, it allows people who don't want to listen to just dismiss him out of hand.

Since aggressive conspiracy theorism represents a person heavily prone to critical flaws in reasoning
capability (Confirmation Bias), it's a perfectly legitimate reason to dismiss someone's opinions out of hand.

The broken clock being right twice a day is not a good argument for using one to tell time.

This is the same asshole who claims that Newtown was a false flag operation to confiscate firearms. Anyone who takes Alex Jones seriously is just as nutty as he is.

He justifies his belief by quoting something called "Operation Gladio" where we supposedly did the same thing in Europe.


So his justification is another conspiracy theory. Brilliant!
 
2013-01-16 11:30:57 AM  

greenboy: Fail in Human Form: Mercutio74: Fail in Human Form: Not trolling, I believe exactly what I say.

Except that the scolding preposterous response from the NRA made the media's gibberish look like the work of a Rhodes Scholar. I think even a cursory look at the issue, especially as it relates to the recent school shooting(s), suggests that there aren't a lot of mainstream media voices from either side of the issue making a ton of sense.

It's been a pure withdrawal into tired rhetoric from both sides, and neither one has a chance of being the "solution" to a problem that probably has more cultural causes than legislative ones.

That's because the NRA has refused to let people use this tragedy to force them into "giving in". If I feel I've given up far to much already, and you cry for more, what's left to fill time on the 24/7 news channels other than rhetoric?

What exactly have you given up? your right to a fully automatic? i feel so bad for you. I really do.


The crazy part is, fully automatic weapons are already heavily regulated. And I don't hear anyone calling for the repeal of the National Firearms Act.
 
2013-01-16 11:32:08 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: And I don't hear anyone calling for the repeal of the National Firearms Act.


*Waves*

Hi how ya doin?
 
2013-01-16 11:33:49 AM  
If someone tells you they listen to Alex Jones, it's a good indication that they're an idiot who isn't worth your time.
 
2013-01-16 11:37:34 AM  

Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: And I don't hear anyone calling for the repeal of the National Firearms Act.

*Waves*

Hi how ya doin?


Do you even know what the National Firearms act actually is and what precipitated its passage?
 
2013-01-16 11:39:51 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: And I don't hear anyone calling for the repeal of the National Firearms Act.

*Waves*

Hi how ya doin?

Do you even know what the National Firearms act actually is and what precipitated its passage?


Yes and yes (I should be able to pass a NCIS check and walk out with a select fire/SBR/SBS/Silencer/ect) TYVM

/The drug runners are today are running pot, end the drug war. Didn't work during prohibition, won't work now.
 
2013-01-16 11:39:53 AM  

cameroncrazy1984:
The crazy part is, fully automatic weapons are already heavily regulated. And I don't hear anyone calling for the repeal of the National Firearms Act.


So are imported "non sporting" firearms, due to Executive Order restricting their import by George H. W. Bush. No one is squealing for their repeal. And I don't hear anyone calling for the repeal on the import restrictions on Chinese Firearms either. If I was some sort of conspiracy theorist I'd say that the "Free Market, gun totin, murkin" lobby was engaging in economic protectionism of industries that donate to and vote for Republicans, and that a bunch of dead schoolchildren is just the cost of doing business.

/waves tiny American flag.
 
2013-01-16 11:41:03 AM  
While I know it's unfair to lump all gun owners into the Alex Jones camp, but I am originally from Kentucky, and a good deal of my gun owning acquaintances talk exactly farking like him.

I understand sane, responsible gun owners don't want this nut bar to be their representative, but you have to understand a lot of right wing gun rights enthusiasts have a hard-on for this paranoid dickhead.
 
2013-01-16 11:42:51 AM  

Fart_Machine: This is the same asshole who claims that Newtown was a false flag operation to confiscate firearms. Anyone who takes Alex Jones seriously is just as nutty as he is.


That's an alarmingly high number of Republicans, and the majority of Paultards. Alex Jones carries a lot of weight in hard-right conservative circles.
 
2013-01-16 11:43:57 AM  

Zerochance: Alex Jones carries a lot of weight


He's the right wing Michael Moore!
 
2013-01-16 11:44:17 AM  

Zerochance: Fart_Machine: This is the same asshole who claims that Newtown was a false flag operation to confiscate firearms. Anyone who takes Alex Jones seriously is just as nutty as he is.

That's an alarmingly high number of Republicans, and the majority of Paultards. Alex Jones carries a lot of weight in hard-right conservative circles.


Right wing media loves their judas goats more than a fat kid loves candy.
 
2013-01-16 11:45:37 AM  

Fail in Human Form: Yes and yes (I should be able to pass a NCIS check and walk out with a select fire/SBR/SBS/Silencer/ect) TYVM


So you have zero idea why the National Firearms Act was passed and why full-auto or select-fire weapons are a REALLY BAD IDEA in the hands of civilians?
 
2013-01-16 11:46:06 AM  
10 Minutes till gun owners find out how bad we're going to get screwed

Link

t0.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-16 11:46:48 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Yes and yes (I should be able to pass a NCIS check and walk out with a select fire/SBR/SBS/Silencer/ect) TYVM

So you have zero idea why the National Firearms Act was passed and why full-auto or select-fire weapons are a REALLY BAD IDEA in the hands of civilians?


I pointed out why, and I disagree with your assertion.
 
2013-01-16 11:47:56 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: So you have zero idea why the National Firearms Act was passed and why full-auto or select-fire weapons are a REALLY BAD IDEA in the hands of civilians?


In fact, the more I think about it, select fire would likely be even more deadly in the hands of the public that full auto. You could probably do some really bad stuff in a crowd with 3 round bursts.
 
2013-01-16 11:48:28 AM  

Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Yes and yes (I should be able to pass a NCIS check and walk out with a select fire/SBR/SBS/Silencer/ect) TYVM

So you have zero idea why the National Firearms Act was passed and why full-auto or select-fire weapons are a REALLY BAD IDEA in the hands of civilians?

I pointed out why, and I disagree with your assertion.


You disagree that gangster violence in the 30s actually happened prior to the the 1934 NFA?

I'm sorry that history isn't your strong suit.
 
2013-01-16 11:49:20 AM  

Mercutio74: cameroncrazy1984: So you have zero idea why the National Firearms Act was passed and why full-auto or select-fire weapons are a REALLY BAD IDEA in the hands of civilians?

In fact, the more I think about it, select fire would likely be even more deadly in the hands of the public that full auto. You could probably do some really bad stuff in a crowd with 3 round bursts.


Yeah, ironically enough you could hit a lot more people with burst-fire than with rock-and-roll. Hard to control muzzle climb that way.
 
2013-01-16 11:49:48 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Yes and yes (I should be able to pass a NCIS check and walk out with a select fire/SBR/SBS/Silencer/ect) TYVM

So you have zero idea why the National Firearms Act was passed and why full-auto or select-fire weapons are a REALLY BAD IDEA in the hands of civilians?

I pointed out why, and I disagree with your assertion.

You disagree that gangster violence in the 30s actually happened prior to the the 1934 NFA?


I agree that it happened, disagree that it justified a ban. Removing prohibition of alcohol would have been the proper solution.
 
2013-01-16 11:50:33 AM  

Diogenes: Fail in Human Form: Understandable, but when is it ok to "get mad"?

That's a much broader question.  All I can say is if I'm mad, and I want people to know it and take me seriously, I will try to use a voice or look to another voice that can be taken seriously.  In all things, if you want to get traction on an issue, you have to be heard by the people who don't share your opinion.

More specific to the topic at hand, that's why I just don't understand the NRA's strategy here.


The NRA's strategy is to sell more guns. Increasing the level of fear and paranoia works wonders in that regard.
 
2013-01-16 11:50:35 AM  

Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: And I don't hear anyone calling for the repeal of the National Firearms Act.

*Waves*

Hi how ya doin?

Do you even know what the National Firearms act actually is and what precipitated its passage?

Yes and yes (I should be able to pass a NCIS check and walk out with a select fire/SBR/SBS/Silencer/ect) TYVM

/The drug runners are today are running pot, end the drug war. Didn't work during prohibition, won't work now.


I can see it now. A fully auto M4 with grenade launcher and acog 4 scope for everyone. I feel like anti-gun control people are so fearful that there is a slippery slope to them eventually only being able to arm themselves with an official red ryder bb gun with a compass in in the stock and a thing that tells time.
You all have lost all common sense. You don't need a 30 round banana clip. You do need to lock your weapons at all times. You do not need high incendiary thermonuclear exploding bullets. You do not need a silencer or a flash suppressor.
 
2013-01-16 11:51:36 AM  

Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: cameroncrazy1984: Fail in Human Form: Yes and yes (I should be able to pass a NCIS check and walk out with a select fire/SBR/SBS/Silencer/ect) TYVM

So you have zero idea why the National Firearms Act was passed and why full-auto or select-fire weapons are a REALLY BAD IDEA in the hands of civilians?

I pointed out why, and I disagree with your assertion.

You disagree that gangster violence in the 30s actually happened prior to the the 1934 NFA?

I agree that it happened, disagree that it justified a ban. Removing prohibition of alcohol would have been the proper solution.


Question: how many full-auto spree shootings have there been since the ban?
 
2013-01-16 11:58:06 AM  
When I think Alex Jones I think, "Constitutional Scholar"
 
2013-01-16 12:07:03 PM  
Obama has met the criteria for impeachment by failing to meet the Article II, Section 3 requirement to take Care that the following Laws be faithfully executed:

-The War Crimes Act
-Laws prohibiting the destruction of evidence by CIA personnel of War Crimes Act violations l
-The War Powers Act
-The Fourth Amendment prohibitions against unreasonable and/or unwarranted searches and seizures.

Prepare the Articles on those grounds, Republican douches, and I'll be right behind you. Otherwise, take 20 minutes to study the how the response to the Shays Rebellion differed from that to the Whiskey Rebellion to learn what the 2nd Amendment actually meant in the context of the times in which it was written. Hint: your imagined right to a semi-automatic weapon and 30 bullet magazines has nothing to do with it.
 
2013-01-16 12:14:42 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: -The War Crimes Act
-Laws prohibiting the destruction of evidence by CIA personnel of War Crimes Act violations l
-The War Powers Act
-The Fourth Amendment prohibitions against unreasonable and/or unwarranted searches and seizures.


So you're basically just making things up?
 
2013-01-16 12:18:38 PM  
Wow, 23 executive orders signed...
 
2013-01-16 12:20:00 PM  

Hung Like A Tic-Tac: Wow, 23 executive orders signed...


The following is a list, provided by the White House, of executive actions President Obama plans to take to address gun violence.
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

He basically threw it back onto congress. I'm not thrilled, but this isn't nearly as bad as it could have been.
 
2013-01-16 12:23:28 PM  
Fail in Human Form:

Thanks for the list, that is very helpful. Seems like a very thoughtful set of ideas.
 
2013-01-16 12:24:58 PM  

LasersHurt: Fail in Human Form:

Thanks for the list, that is very helpful. Seems like a very thoughtful set of ideas.


Don't worry, I'm sure the NRA will tell us that it's the WORST. POSSIBLE. THING.
 
2013-01-16 12:26:03 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Gun control drones - "Hey, we can't seem to form a rational argument against gun ownership. There are simply no facts or statistics backing our position. What should we do?"

Gun control drum-beater - "Find a crazy person on their side, then try to associate him with everyone who disagrees with us, we need to poison that well. Oh, and don't ever try to argue against 2nd amendment supporters' facts, it'll just provide any undecided people the opportunity to realize that we're just pandering to emotions, and our gun control plan won't do what we say it will. Just call them names, or pretend they said something else."


Since you already got a number of hits, I won't look like a total n00b by responding to your troll. I guess I need that for my self confidence*.

But.. some gun-control drum-beaters mention:
1 - gun ownership is strongly correlated to number of homicides, both across states and across first world countries
2 - the leading cause of violent child death is due to guns in the house
3 - guns are 4-10 times more likely to be used in the commission of a crime than in the prevention of one
4 - gun-rights advocates seem to only be able to pull out "examples" rather than provide statistics. I have yet to see a single statistic that does not clearly show that every gun sold in the US causes more harm than it solves. Gun-control works across the world to reduce gun ownership rates and homicides, as well as a variety of crimes.
5 - and if examples are the only language a gun-rights advocate understands, then maybe they should look at crime statistics for Kennesaw, GA (a strange example where forcing guns on people is seen as advocating gun rights) versus Newtown, CT (which has CT's stricter gun control laws). Surprisingly, rates are far lower for nearly all crimes in Newtown. Homicides have had a recent spike, but I doubt gun-rights advocates want to explore the causes of that too closely.

* or a gun

/sad that gun-rights advocates seem to have swallowed whole a number of made-up statistics over the year instead of actual scholarly research
//which shows clearly guns do more harm than good, along many scientific metrics
 
2013-01-16 12:28:50 PM  

Felgraf: LasersHurt: Fail in Human Form:

Thanks for the list, that is very helpful. Seems like a very thoughtful set of ideas.

Don't worry, I'm sure the NRA will tell us that it's the WORST. POSSIBLE. THING.


Oh of course.
 
2013-01-16 12:30:46 PM  

Fail in Human Form: 18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.


I expect the unquestioning dem loyalists that have been arguing against this to have a sudden change of heart.
 
2013-01-16 12:32:01 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: So you're basically just making things up?


Did I sleep through the torture trials? The Rodriguez prosecution? The cessation of warrantless wiretapping and whatever the hell it actually is that the NSA is sweeping, and what they're doing with it? The report to Congress of hostilities taken against Libya?

No, I'm not making things up. I just don't apply a partisan standard to the need for accountability and the value of the rule of law.
 
2013-01-16 12:34:18 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Fail in Human Form: 18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

I expect the unquestioning dem loyalists that have been arguing against this to have a sudden change of heart.


Providing incentives for schools to hire "resource officers" is not the same as requiring all schools to have armed security on campus.
 
2013-01-16 12:42:08 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Fail in Human Form: 18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

I expect the unquestioning dem loyalists that have been arguing against this to have a sudden change of heart.

Providing incentives for schools to hire "resource officers" is not the same as requiring all schools to have armed security on campus.


No, but it's damn close. And considering the whole concept of having armed guards in schools was thoroughly trashed when the NRA proposed it (personally I think it was stupid then and now), and anyone who supported it was labeled insane, you guys have an uncomfortable 180 to do.
 
2013-01-16 12:43:04 PM  
Totally pointless to try to impeach Obama when the Senate would not go along with the farce. Also the time would be better spent getting something positive done.
 
2013-01-16 12:43:39 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: No, but it's damn close


No it isn't. It's not even close at all. There's not even a requirement that resource officers be armed.
 
2013-01-16 12:48:00 PM  
I wonder if they'll have to open up NCIS to C&R FFLs if we sell a weapon that we bought on our license?
 
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