If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Forbes)   Help, help, Coca Cola and Pepsi are being oppressed   (forbes.com) divider line 31
    More: Stupid, Pepsi, Mark Bittman, Laurie David, Jacobson  
•       •       •

2744 clicks; posted to Business » on 16 Jan 2013 at 5:36 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



31 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2013-01-15 09:33:14 PM
It looks like the soft drink industries greedy attempt to save pennies by switching from sugar to high fructose corn syrup has become a disaster for them.  High fructose is been proven to be a major factor in obesity and now the soft drink industry owns that problem.

What is it that conservatives always say?  There is no need for regulation, if a company poisons enough people, they're put themselves out of business?
 
2013-01-15 10:31:32 PM

NFA: It looks like the soft drink industries greedy attempt to save pennies by switching from sugar to high fructose corn syrup has become a disaster for them.  High fructose is been proven to be a major factor in obesity and now the soft drink industry owns that problem.

What is it that conservatives always say?  There is no need for regulation, if a company poisons enough people, they're put themselves out of business?


You can place blame for that on Congress and American sugar/corn farmers. They conspired to drive up the prices of sugar through price supports and tariffs.
 
2013-01-16 12:05:33 AM

ArkAngel: NFA: It looks like the soft drink industries greedy attempt to save pennies by switching from sugar to high fructose corn syrup has become a disaster for them.  High fructose is been proven to be a major factor in obesity and now the soft drink industry owns that problem.

What is it that conservatives always say?  There is no need for regulation, if a company poisons enough people, they're put themselves out of business?

You can place blame for that on Congress and American sugar/corn farmers. They conspired to drive up the prices of sugar through price supports and tariffs.


Let's not forget that the corn states are ridiculously overpowered because of early primaries in those states. I bet if we had a national primary on a single date or rotating primaries we would see a lot of changes in ethanol and hfcs production.
 
2013-01-16 02:54:02 AM

NFA: It looks like the soft drink industries greedy attempt to save pennies by switching from sugar to high fructose corn syrup has become a disaster for them.  High fructose is been proven to be a major factor in obesity and now the soft drink industry owns that problem.


This this this this.

In addition, I don't remember the study, but I've heard that the Aspertame in diet drinks being ingested by fetuses is linked to the skyrocketing of autism in infants.
 
2013-01-16 03:58:26 AM
Coming from someone who lives in Indiana, THIS COUNTRY GROWS TOO MUCH DAMN CORN.
 
2013-01-16 06:08:22 AM

ArkAngel: NFA: It looks like the soft drink industries greedy attempt to save pennies by switching from sugar to high fructose corn syrup has become a disaster for them.  High fructose is been proven to be a major factor in obesity and now the soft drink industry owns that problem.

What is it that conservatives always say?  There is no need for regulation, if a company poisons enough people, they're put themselves out of business?

You can place blame for that on Congress and American sugar/corn farmers. They conspired to drive up the prices of sugar through price supports and tariffs.


Also the insane embargo on Cuba.
 
2013-01-16 06:14:47 AM
The HFCS glut is a direct result -- and one that people pointed out long before it happened -- of heavily subsidizing corn and heavily penalizing sugar. HFCS is cheaper than sugar only because of government controls.

The HFCS isn't the only problem, either -- distorting incentives means people are growing corn instead of the best crop for their field, because they can get more subsidy money that way. In addition, heavily growing one crop wrecks the soil...and corn isn't a particularly nutritious crop to begin with.
 
2013-01-16 06:50:00 AM
When I was a tiny Kritter the only time there was soda in the house was for adults to use at picnic parties. It was referred to as 'mixer'. I rarely ever had a soda as a child.

Fast forward a few years to when I had a paper route and spent my earning however I wanted. Started smoking at a young age, drank so much soda & ate so many sweets that I had to have 27 teeth extracted over a 2 day period while in elementary school.

That's what I see around me these days. Unchecked consumption of sweets and not so good for you foods by foolish adults. Young children drinking soda in the AM hours because their parents are idiots. It's not Coke's fault. They do not force you to consume foolishly. Stupid stupid Americans.
 
2013-01-16 08:10:49 AM
Coke and Pepsi are being oppressed they don't force their delicious products down your throat they just make the stuff. How is it Coke or Pepsi's fault because some butterball somewhere is overweight? Take some personal responsibility and put down your 2L "cup" of cola and maybe try a glass of water or hey even better put that water into a bottle and run a few blocks! I don't want to see the day where I have to walk into a store and ask the manager to unlock the forbidden cola cabinet to get my fizzy sugar water fix because the land whales of the world lack the self-control to waddle by a refrigerator case without pigging out. I know that it is a lot easier to blame someone else or something else (it's the industry! It's the HFCS! It's Obama and the Illuminati!) for your obesity but sit down (should be easy for you) and take a good hard look at yourself and accept that maybe, just maybe it is because you eat too damn much and move too damn little.
 
2013-01-16 08:16:39 AM
It's not just the switch from sugar to HFCS that has made America fat on soda.

It's also that portions have tripled in size, or more, over time.
 
2013-01-16 08:18:20 AM
We have a sin tax on cigarettes and alcohol why not soda and other processed empty calorie foods?
 
2013-01-16 08:19:42 AM
I hope to see some violence inherent in the system!

/I'm a Pepper
 
2013-01-16 09:06:05 AM
Yes because personal responsibility is a foreign concept, oh lord government save us from ourselves and punish these evil corporations who force me to drink their delicious sweet nectar by making it too tasty and available.

Its your own fault that you are fat asses, try not having a sugar laden drink every hour lardbutt.
 
2013-01-16 09:17:13 AM
 
2013-01-16 09:22:19 AM

Carth: We have a sin tax on cigarettes and alcohol why not soda and other processed empty calorie foods?


Because booze and cigarettes make you look cool. Other cool things like cars, gasoline, and gambling winnings are taxed.

Lame things like soda just makes you fat. That's tax enough.
 
2013-01-16 09:29:08 AM

Carth: We have a sin tax on cigarettes and alcohol why not soda and other processed empty calorie foods?


Because the food does not physically harm any other people like cigarettes/alcohol have been proven to do.

You can lose a shiat ton of weight by just getting off sugary drinks so people need to exert a little common sense and not drink that shiat, its not the companies fault people are dumbasses.
 
2013-01-16 09:32:21 AM
Why focus on soda and HFCS? Why can't I buy a can of "healthy" soup that doesn't contain 60% RDA of sodium. Same with frozen foods, and other pre-packaged foods. I don't know if they've increased the amount of crap in foods, or I've become more sensitive to it. But I'm at the point where I can't buy this stuff anymore.
 
2013-01-16 09:37:01 AM

Kevin72: NFA: It looks like the soft drink industries greedy attempt to save pennies by switching from sugar to high fructose corn syrup has become a disaster for them.  High fructose is been proven to be a major factor in obesity and now the soft drink industry owns that problem.


This this this this.

In addition, I don't remember the study, but I've heard that the Aspertame in diet drinks being ingested by fetuses is linked to the skyrocketing of autism in infants.


Good thing I'm a dude.  Just like with cigarettes, I only smoke the ones that harm fetuses.

/RIP Hicks.
 
2013-01-16 09:58:32 AM

steamingpile: Carth: We have a sin tax on cigarettes and alcohol why not soda and other processed empty calorie foods?

Because the food does not physically harm any other people like cigarettes/alcohol have been proven to do.

You can lose a shiat ton of weight by just getting off sugary drinks so people need to exert a little common sense and not drink that shiat, its not the companies fault people are dumbasses.


Obesity costs around 190 billion in medical costs in 2005. People obviously have no self control and their right to stuff their face should end when it costs me money. If you can't control yourself let the government control you.
 
2013-01-16 11:58:36 AM

Carth: steamingpile: Carth: We have a sin tax on cigarettes and alcohol why not soda and other processed empty calorie foods?

Because the food does not physically harm any other people like cigarettes/alcohol have been proven to do.

You can lose a shiat ton of weight by just getting off sugary drinks so people need to exert a little common sense and not drink that shiat, its not the companies fault people are dumbasses.

Obesity costs around 190 billion in medical costs in 2005. People obviously have no self control and their right to stuff their face should end when it costs me money. If you can't control yourself let the government control you.


Nice, but I would rather just have executions for those who have an an unhealthy BMI.....

Again, its not the companies fault they are dumb asses.
 
2013-01-16 12:33:31 PM
FTFA: To those like Jacobson, food and soda companies can't be part of the solution because they shouldn't be in the business of promoting and selling food and beverages with calories in the first place.

Aaaand, we've reached the dumbest possible thought. No one is saying you can't sell food that has calories. Unless this writer thinks that "activists" want nothing but mustard in stores.

/also, Forbes' website sucks.
 
2013-01-16 01:49:49 PM

Carth: Obesity costs around 190 billion in medical costs in 2005. People obviously have no self control and their right to stuff their face should end when it costs me money. If you can't control yourself let the government control you.


How much does obesity save though? I mean yes a guy who is 500 pounds will cost the system a lot more when he is alive. But odds are that guy is never going to live to be old enough to collect social security (which is money saved), he is not going to break a hip from being old and spend a year in a hospital, and he is not going to end up with age related dementia and end up having to live in a nursing home.

As far as sugar in drinks goes, the only sugar in drinks I consume is the unfermented sugars from barley that are found in the beers I drink.
 
2013-01-16 03:35:27 PM

senzasord: Why focus on soda and HFCS? Why can't I buy a can of "healthy" soup that doesn't contain 60% RDA of sodium. Same with frozen foods, and other pre-packaged foods. I don't know if they've increased the amount of crap in foods, or I've become more sensitive to it. But I'm at the point where I can't buy this stuff anymore.


Or how about why I can't go anywhere and choose between pepsi and coke, its always one or the other. These exclusivity agreements have to be against some form of anti-trust law.
 
2013-01-16 04:18:24 PM

RTOGUY: Coke and Pepsi are being oppressed they don't force their delicious products down your throat they just make the stuff. How is it Coke or Pepsi's fault because some butterball somewhere is overweight?


Because if a corporation is involved, it's never NOT their fault, that's why.
 
2013-01-16 04:21:37 PM

senzasord: Why can't I buy a can of "healthy" soup that doesn't contain 60% RDA of sodium.


Among its other properties in the realm of food science, salt is a preservative.

If they didn't load canned soup full of sodium, it wouldn't last for years in your cupboard -- or months on the supermarket shelves -- without loss of nutrition and palatability.

The right thing to do is to eat freshly prepared soup instead. $5 in ingredients and a couple hours of passive simmering will net you a pot of homemade chicken soup ten times the size of a Campbell's can, and infinitely more delicious.
 
2013-01-16 04:52:10 PM

SnarfVader: Let's not forget that the corn states are ridiculously overpowered because of early primaries in those states. I bet if we had a national primary on a single date or rotating primaries we would see a lot of changes in ethanol and hfcs production.


Really? They're overpowered because they vote for one office a little earlier than most states?

/And last I checked, said office doesn't make or vote on legislation.
 
2013-01-16 07:00:24 PM
As someone who could stand to lose a few pounds I can honestly say I haven't drank a non-diet soda in 10 years. I'm gaining weight because I sometimes eat to damn much and I'm to lazy to get enough exercise. People need to quit looking for excuses and stop blaming everything on someone/something else.
 
2013-01-16 10:35:42 PM

ReapTheChaos: As someone who could stand to lose a few pounds I can honestly say I haven't drank a non-diet soda in 10 years. I'm gaining weight because I sometimes eat to damn much and I'm to lazy to get enough exercise. People need to quit looking for excuses and stop blaming everything on someone/something else.


Sir you are wrong, you have a good case against greedy companies.
 
2013-01-16 10:57:40 PM

KrispyKritter: When I was a tiny Kritter the only time there was soda in the house was for adults to use at picnic parties. It was referred to as 'mixer'. I rarely ever had a soda as a child.


We never had pop in the house either, not for us. Just for drink mixes. A pop was something you went to the store and bought as a treat. One day I came home and asked my mother if we could have Coke in the house, like my friend Tracy did. My mother said, "And that's why Tracy has pimples all over her face too!" Well. I never asked again.

This was about the time that the mini-marts started taking over the world too. And then everybody got fat. Coincidence? Well, yeah, of course it was. And those mini-marts were needed, anyway, to address the problem of people dying of hunger or thirst while on their way to the movies or the supermarket.
 
2013-01-18 12:07:46 AM
shiat Cola....

any Stephen Baxter fans in da house?
 
2013-01-18 11:37:41 AM

IlGreven: SnarfVader: Let's not forget that the corn states are ridiculously overpowered because of early primaries in those states. I bet if we had a national primary on a single date or rotating primaries we would see a lot of changes in ethanol and hfcs production.

Really? They're overpowered because they vote for one office a little earlier than most states?

/And last I checked, said office doesn't make or vote on legislation.


You need to go back and take a civics lesson, specifically the parts on presidential proposal of legislation and budgets, executive orders, and vetoes.
 
Displayed 31 of 31 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report