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2013-01-15 09:34:57 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Amos Quito: scubamage: Solid State Vittles: To be fair, I would need to know the chemical before I would make that leap into calling it a "weapon." What if Syria was just making it rain fluoxetine, lysergic acid diethylamide, and tadalifil on its citizenry?

That's crazy talk, why, someone capable of doing that would probably want to start putting flouride in the drinking supply!

BLAH!

Fluoride is harmless.

/Unless it is used in combination with chlorine, of course

Or hydrogen... Then it can etch glass. Or dissolve bodies.


Breaking Bad is the best show I've ever seen.

Except maybe the wire.

I never want to stop talking about breaking bad or the wire.
 
2013-01-15 09:36:56 PM  
Ahh yes, The Germans are killing babies. The Iraqis are tossing babies out of incubators. When will americans start looking at these manipulative stories with a critical eye? Never? Probably.

The American people drawn into another war, another regime change. The state department wouldn't lie to get what they want. No. Never. When has government ever lied to get what those in it desire?

New century. Same manipulation.

We'll find out it's bullshiat in a few years. Just like has happened many times before.
 
2013-01-15 09:36:58 PM  
Maddow has a good piece about it tonight.
 
2013-01-15 09:38:32 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Igor Jakovsky: The Angry Hand of God: Yay. Syria. Another country just like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc, that I would just let out a big "meh" if everyone died. Can't we just focus on making America better now? We kinda have some problems of our own to focus on, and even with some of these countries with "nuclear" weapons wouldn't last 30 minutes if they actually launched anything at us...

You sound like Old testament God

Igor Jakovsky: The Angry Hand of God: Yay. Syria. Another country just like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc, that I would just let out a big "meh" if everyone died. Can't we just focus on making America better now? We kinda have some problems of our own to focus on, and even with some of these countries with "nuclear" weapons wouldn't last 30 minutes if they actually launched anything at us...

You sound like Old testament God

"One day Samuel said to Saul, "It was the Lord who told me to anoint you as king of his people, Israel. Now listen to this message from the Lord! 2 This is what the Lord of Heaven's Armies has declared: I have decided to settle accounts with the nation of Amalek for opposing Israel when they came from Egypt. 3 Now go and completely destroy[a] the entire Amalekite nation-men, women, children, babies, cattle, sheep, goats, camels, and donkeys.""

God is love.


Hosea 13:16 - "16 The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open."

fc06.deviantart.net
 
2013-01-15 09:39:36 PM  

Agent 15?

I thought it said Agent 51 at first...and this popped in my head.



images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-01-15 09:40:34 PM  

leadmetal: Ahh yes, The Germans are killing babies. The Iraqis are tossing babies out of incubators. When will americans start looking at these manipulative stories with a critical eye? Never? Probably.

The American people drawn into another war, another regime change. The state department wouldn't lie to get what they want. No. Never. When has government ever lied to get what those in it desire?

New century. Same manipulation.

We'll find out it's bullshiat in a few years. Just like has happened many times before.


Yeah, except for that whole Holocaust thing.
 
2013-01-15 09:45:12 PM  
THIS was the thread from that day.
 
2013-01-15 09:45:46 PM  

halfof33: leadmetal: Ahh yes, The Germans are killing babies. The Iraqis are tossing babies out of incubators. When will americans start looking at these manipulative stories with a critical eye? Never? Probably.

The American people drawn into another war, another regime change. The state department wouldn't lie to get what they want. No. Never. When has government ever lied to get what those in it desire?

New century. Same manipulation.

We'll find out it's bullshiat in a few years. Just like has happened many times before.

Yeah, except for that whole Holocaust thing.


That Holocaust thing was not used to get the american people to go to war or support a war or support a revolution or regime change. By the time the american people knew about it, the war was essentially over. Of course one can never let logic get in the way of discrediting those who point out the manipulations.

Remember the Maine!
 
2013-01-15 09:46:08 PM  

King Something: ShawnDoc: zedster: FTFA:""It was a chemical weapon, we are sure of that, because tear gas can't cause the death of five people," said Dr. Nashwan Abu Abdo"

Damn it, stop defending Janet Reno!!

Protesters in Thailand would like a word with you.  Several have been killed or severely injured by Chinese made tear gas canisters that have exploded on impact.

It wasn't the tear gas, it was the China-quality canisters. Those canisters were made in the same country as exploding manhole covers, exploding toilets and exploding shark tanks.


They have exploding man holes in NYC.

Imagine going to the Shark Encounter at Seaworld. You gotta take a crap because of the theme park food you ate and while you're sitting there, the shark tank and toilet explode.. It would not be a good day for this American.
 
2013-01-15 09:53:14 PM  
"We can't definitely say 100 percent, but Syrian contacts made a compelling case that Agent 15 was used in Homs on Dec. 23," the official said.

While I am no big fan of Syria OR chemical weapons, can we get a 100% confirmation by US agents making a definite case, before we go to war on this? This seems a little less than solid evidence for those WMDs that are located around Tikrit or to the north, south, east or west somewhat.
 
2013-01-15 09:53:52 PM  
First there were reports of cluster bombs. Now chemical weapons.

Does anyone really give a sh*t?

Let the Syrians kill each other. The last thing we can afford is another pointless war. A few more strongly worded letter or two should do the trick.
 
2013-01-15 09:54:13 PM  

leadmetal: halfof33: leadmetal: Ahh yes, The Germans are killing babies. The Iraqis are tossing babies out of incubators. When will americans start looking at these manipulative stories with a critical eye? Never? Probably.

The American people drawn into another war, another regime change. The state department wouldn't lie to get what they want. No. Never. When has government ever lied to get what those in it desire?

New century. Same manipulation.

We'll find out it's bullshiat in a few years. Just like has happened many times before.

Yeah, except for that whole Holocaust thing.

That Holocaust thing was not used to get the american people to go to war or support a war or support a revolution or regime change. By the time the american people knew about it, the war was essentially over. Of course one can never let logic get in the way of discrediting those who point out the manipulations.

Remember the Maine!


You're right about the holocaust. I wonder how much this country cared about the Jews based on the way we treated the refugees that Hitler sent here on ships. Half would have been better served by talking about Pearl harbor at which point you would say Roosevelt let it happen so we could join the war.

/I dont believe that BTW, but you were discussing conspiracies.
 
2013-01-15 09:58:27 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Make your own damn tea. This is no time for drinking tea anyway.


Truth be told, the fringe right has put me off tea for good, i think.  Yeesh.
 
2013-01-15 10:06:05 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Has anyone informed the State Department that their "secret" cables seem to be pretty consistently not?

/more leaks than the mens room at a bar giving away free beer


How else do you get people to believe you're doing the right thing? They leak stuff like this on purpose to win hearts and minds into supporting illegal wars.
 
2013-01-15 10:13:19 PM  
I don't understand what everyone is so concerned about. The whole "used WMDs on their own people" think is only used as a rationalization after the stated reason for invading a country is proven to be a blatant lie.
 
2013-01-15 10:15:24 PM  

leadmetal: That Holocaust thing was not used to get the american people to go to war or support a war or support a revolution or regime change. By the time the american people knew about it, the war was essentially over. Of course one can never let logic get in the way of discrediting those who point out the manipulations.

Remember the Maine!


But I thought you said that the Germans weren't killing "babies." Just about 10 million other people, but no babies.

Or perhaps this was one of those crazy times the stupid american people got it right by getting it wrong? Crummy Americans and their stupid dumb luck! Shakes fist.

lolz, The USA didn't go to war in WWII because "germans" were killing "babies." But you are definitely backing winners, Hitler, Saddam and now Bashar, truly history's most misunderstood geniuses.
 
2013-01-15 10:17:34 PM  

DoctorCal: I don't understand what everyone is so concerned about. The whole "used WMDs on their own people" think is only used as a rationalization after the stated reason for invading a country is proven to be a blatant lie.


Huh, takes notes. Halabja poison gas attack, did not happen?

Huh.

Hmmm.

I learning stuff from you neo-holocaust deniers! I truly am!
 
2013-01-15 10:22:40 PM  

halfof33: leadmetal: That Holocaust thing was not used to get the american people to go to war or support a war or support a revolution or regime change. By the time the american people knew about it, the war was essentially over. Of course one can never let logic get in the way of discrediting those who point out the manipulations.

Remember the Maine!

But I thought you said that the Germans weren't killing "babies." Just about 10 million other people, but no babies.

Or perhaps this was one of those crazy times the stupid american people got it right by getting it wrong? Crummy Americans and their stupid dumb luck! Shakes fist.

lolz, The USA didn't go to war in WWII because "germans" were killing "babies." But you are definitely backing winners, Hitler, Saddam and now Bashar, truly history's most misunderstood geniuses.


Nobody is denying the holocaust you farking retard, perhaps you're too young to remember the chain of events that occurred in late 2002.
 
2013-01-15 10:25:41 PM  

duffblue: halfof33: leadmetal: That Holocaust thing was not used to get the american people to go to war or support a war or support a revolution or regime change. By the time the american people knew about it, the war was essentially over. Of course one can never let logic get in the way of discrediting those who point out the manipulations.

Remember the Maine!

But I thought you said that the Germans weren't killing "babies." Just about 10 million other people, but no babies.

Or perhaps this was one of those crazy times the stupid american people got it right by getting it wrong? Crummy Americans and their stupid dumb luck! Shakes fist.

lolz, The USA didn't go to war in WWII because "germans" were killing "babies." But you are definitely backing winners, Hitler, Saddam and now Bashar, truly history's most misunderstood geniuses.

Nobody is denying the holocaust you farking retard, perhaps you're too young to remember the chain of events that occurred in late 2002.


Thanks champ, don't remember the Germans killing babies then. Your pal is a big boy, I'd like to hear him speak for himself about German baby killers. Thanks white knight!
 
2013-01-15 10:27:21 PM  

halfof33: Huh, takes notes. Halabja poison gas attack, did not happen?


Citation needed
 
2013-01-15 10:28:55 PM  
Sounds just like the "secret intell" that was "leaked" during the run-up to invading Iraq.

Yellow-cake anyone?
 
2013-01-15 10:31:12 PM  
www.themasterofbation.com
Dammit.
 
2013-01-15 10:36:15 PM  

DoctorCal: [www.themasterofbation.com image 514x283]
Dammit.


Lol wut.
 
2013-01-15 10:38:18 PM  

DoctorCal: I don't understand what everyone is so concerned about. The whole "used WMDs on their own people" think is only used as a rationalization after the stated reason for invading a country is proven to be a blatant lie.


Not sure if serious.
 
2013-01-15 10:38:22 PM  
Wag that dog
 
2013-01-15 10:46:54 PM  
Even if thousands were gassed Obama is simply not going to react. If we mess with Syria we have to deal with Russia, something no one wants.

Sorry Syria you just don't have oil.
 
2013-01-15 10:49:37 PM  
My fellow Americans: Seriously, how many times are you going to fall for this shiat? Even if this is true, what the hell business is it of ours? If you feel strongly about it please go over there and sign up with the rebels, or send your sons. I would say daughters, but the rebels have some pretty retrograde ideas of what to do with women. BTW, anyone else notice how the USA has done a good job of destroying the secular regimes in Iraq and Libya, and is working on doing the same with the secular regime in Syria? All that while supporting to the hilt one of the most repressive regimes on earth, Saudi Arabia, along with various other Arab despots?
 
2013-01-15 10:50:42 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: leadmetal: halfof33: leadmetal: Ahh yes, The Germans are killing babies. The Iraqis are tossing babies out of incubators. When will americans start looking at these manipulative stories with a critical eye? Never? Probably.

The American people drawn into another war, another regime change. The state department wouldn't lie to get what they want. No. Never. When has government ever lied to get what those in it desire?

New century. Same manipulation.

We'll find out it's bullshiat in a few years. Just like has happened many times before.

Yeah, except for that whole Holocaust thing.

That Holocaust thing was not used to get the american people to go to war or support a war or support a revolution or regime change. By the time the american people knew about it, the war was essentially over. Of course one can never let logic get in the way of discrediting those who point out the manipulations.

Remember the Maine!

You're right about the holocaust. I wonder how much this country cared about the Jews based on the way we treated the refugees that Hitler sent here on ships. Half would have been better served by talking about Pearl harbor at which point you would say Roosevelt let it happen so we could join the war.

/I dont believe that BTW, but you were discussing conspiracies.


Conspiracies? Not at all. These are now facts of history. The World War One justification of German soldiers killing babies was a lie. Same with Iraqi military tossing babies from incubators. The Maine was a 19th century boiler explosion, an accident. The Gulf of Tokin incident never happened. There were no WMD in Iraq. These are all historical facts today. All public domain... too old to care about info released and verified that they were all manufactured and/or hyped to get the american people into war.

As to Pearl Harbor, it's slowly coming out how FDR did everything possible to provoke war via foreign policy. But that's more murky because one could always just say 'well the Japanese government chose to attack'. The lie was that the attack was 'unprovoked'. It was provoked much the way the US government is currently provoking war with Iran. Economically and politically while putting the navy out there as a display of strength. Although wrt to Iran the US government will probably do something that violates Iran's territory or in something Iran's government will be justified in defending itself but it will be spun to the american people as an attack.... It would be funny to see the US government react to foreign government putting that much hardware off the east coast.

halfof33: lolz, The USA didn't go to war in WWII because "germans" were killing "babies." But you are definitely backing winners, Hitler, Saddam and now Bashar, truly history's most misunderstood geniuses.


You probably shouldn't put your ignorance on display. Germans killing (bayoneting) babies was one of the excuses used to get americans to go to war in the _FIRST_ world war. You know, roughly a century ago. The one with the trenches.... when the Germans wore those spiked helmets? Here's a nice piece of WW1 propaganda for you:
www.stentorian.com

Also on display is your emotional and rational retardation. Presenting facts of history isn't backing anyone. But if you want to be so easily manipulated that's your choice.
 
2013-01-15 10:51:31 PM  
Yes, let's start another war in the Middle East because Syria used incapacitating, non-lethal chemical weapons against their insurgents. Sounds like a great idea. I'm sure that is what Obama was referring to with his "red line" comments, not the wholesale slaughter of thousands by VX or Sarin or the like.

Until that happens, everyone can settle down.
 
2013-01-15 10:52:05 PM  

Aarontology: GAT_00: Hell, yesterday quite a few people were adamant that we not do transport mission to help the French with Mali in maintaining a legitimate government against Al Queda. If that's anathema to the formerly pro-war crowd, what odds are there we go into Syria?

Depends on if it lingers until another GOP president is elected so they can go back to supported global war.


The real difference is the type of intervention. If Syria used chemical weapons on its own people, then we need to be willing to render aid in the form of direct military support....but only if enough the citizens of that country are willing to declare war on the regime.

Our mistake with Iraq is that we waited over a decade to do the job. Bunch more reasons why going the entire way with Iraq was retarded....you know, other than Saddam being terrified of Osama and Osama hating Saddam....and inflaming the region, and depriving our forces in Afghanistan of the necessary resources thus allowing the really pissed off people to gain a foothold in Afghanistan.

Maybe the people that are just looking for a reason to blame Obama and his supporters should learn the difference and reasoning for different types of intervention.

Iraq: 1.5 million deployed personal
Afghanistan 1.8 million deployed personal
500k in supporting roles around the world for the above campaigns.
Drone Strikes: several thousand support personal
Libya: 10k or so, less than 1k on the ground and most of them have already left.
Mali: No firm numbers(yet) but I would guess around 5k support and logistical personal. Less than 500 deployed away from where they are currently stationed.
 
2013-01-15 10:52:57 PM  

Aarontology: So using chemical weapons, the Syrian government killed fewer people than were killed in Newtown.


Are we measuring massacres in "Newtowns" now?
 
2013-01-15 10:55:51 PM  

GanjSmokr: Aarontology: So using chemical weapons, the Syrian government killed fewer people than were killed in Newtown.

Are we measuring massacres in "Newtowns" now?


Which means we should ban all guns and use chemical weapons as a safer method of home defense?
 
2013-01-15 10:58:21 PM  
Ths is a bunch of Huffpo blah blah fluff crap....

"The doctors on the scene said they were not able to pinpoint the poison because they lacked the advanced laboratory equipment needed. They took blood, hair, saliva, and urine samples, but those samples are no longer viable for testing because too much time has passed, they said.

"We took many samples, we kept them, but we cannot get them anywhere because we are in the besieged Homs area," he said. "We are not 100 percent sure what poison was used, but we can say with firm statement that it was not tear gas, that's for sure."

The State Department, in response to inquiries from The Cable, declined to comment on the secret cable from Istanbul or say whether or not chemical weapons were used in the Homs attack..."



Just junk.


There are people, weapons, journos and fighters in and out all the time. Yet no one can get a sample to anyone.

/BS
//second hand BS
 
2013-01-15 10:59:30 PM  

leadmetal: Igor Jakovsky: leadmetal: halfof33: leadmetal: Ahh yes, The Germans are killing babies. The Iraqis are tossing babies out of incubators. When will americans start looking at these manipulative stories with a critical eye? Never? Probably.

The American people drawn into another war, another regime change. The state department wouldn't lie to get what they want. No. Never. When has government ever lied to get what those in it desire?

New century. Same manipulation.

We'll find out it's bullshiat in a few years. Just like has happened many times before.

Yeah, except for that whole Holocaust thing.

That Holocaust thing was not used to get the american people to go to war or support a war or support a revolution or regime change. By the time the american people knew about it, the war was essentially over. Of course one can never let logic get in the way of discrediting those who point out the manipulations.

Remember the Maine!

You're right about the holocaust. I wonder how much this country cared about the Jews based on the way we treated the refugees that Hitler sent here on ships. Half would have been better served by talking about Pearl harbor at which point you would say Roosevelt let it happen so we could join the war.

/I dont believe that BTW, but you were discussing conspiracies.

Conspiracies? Not at all. These are now facts of history. The World War One justification of German soldiers killing babies was a lie. Same with Iraqi military tossing babies from incubators. The Maine was a 19th century boiler explosion, an accident. The Gulf of Tokin incident never happened. There were no WMD in Iraq. These are all historical facts today. All public domain... too old to care about info released and verified that they were all manufactured and/or hyped to get the american people into war.

As to Pearl Harbor, it's slowly coming out how FDR did everything possible to provoke war via foreign policy. But that's more murky because one could always just say 'well ...


Ok tin foil, you have obviously no idea about the difference between "justifications" for war and "war time propaganda." They are not the same thing, but it is a subtle difference and there is no way that you will ever understand the difference. No way, you spout grossly inane talking points in the name of history. Pearl Harbor is an inside jobby job!

The fact that you think we went to war because Germans killed babies is farking embarrassing.
 
2013-01-15 11:11:08 PM  

halfof33: Ok tin foil, you have obviously no idea about the difference between "justifications" for war and "war time propaganda." They are not the same thing, but it is a subtle difference and there is no way that you will ever understand the difference. No way, you spout grossly inane talking points in the name of history. Pearl Harbor is an inside jobby job!

The fact that you think we went to war because Germans killed babies is farking embarrassing.



Ahh name calling and displaying another common trait of people like yourself, an inability to read and comprehend. It's all emotion. Just another well conditioned product of the american government schools.
Propaganda is how you get people to go to war. To get people to go war requires a number of aspects of manipulations. Which is why I wrote that bayoneting babies was one of those used to get americans into world war one. You do know what the phrase 'one of' means, correct? Each war requires various appeals to emotion. One is fear of the enemy. One is that the war moral and just. One is that the enemy is evil. Usually all three of these and more are used to get people to go to war. To get the peasantry to give up its children and treasure to the war effort. It's just a waste of time with you, I know it's most likely you'll again lash out like one of the characters from "Idiocracy".
 
2013-01-15 11:11:42 PM  

mrlewish: Time to call up all those 2nd Amendmenters for their Militia service in Syria.

Am I doing it right?


Militias are for home defense, let us know when the Syrians are deploying gas in NY...so we can laugh.
 
2013-01-15 11:20:34 PM  
I wonder if they have a Made in Iraq label, naaaawwww. Not possible. Channeling George W. Bush
 
2013-01-15 11:25:53 PM  

leadmetal: Also on display is your emotional and rational retardation.


leadmetal: Ahh name calling and displaying another common trait of people like yourself, an inability to read and comprehend.


LOLZ! That is fantastic!

Anyway, you have all the hallmarks of the conspiracy theorists. Lets take one? "To get the peasantry to give up its children and treasure to the war effort." You see, our friend here thinks most people (except him and his friends) are peasants, easily manipulated by evil people that people like him see right through! Those ships that Germany was sinking in the Atlantic? Only a peasant would take notice of them.

Call me a retard again.
 
2013-01-15 11:40:03 PM  

halfof33: Ok tin foil, you have obviously no idea about the difference between "justifications" for war and "war time propaganda." They are not the same thing, but it is a subtle difference and there is no way that you will ever understand the difference


Let's see... one is intended to rally the popular support of the befuddled masses, while the other is intended to rally the popular support of the befuddled masses.

Amirite?
 
2013-01-15 11:41:38 PM  
Quick! Does Syria have any oil or other natural resources that can be exploited by an invading scarily-large government military apparatus and aren't already being exploited by a different scarily-large government military apparatus?
 
2013-01-15 11:43:22 PM  

halfof33: Call me a retard again.



Okay, so you're a retard again.


War creates debt
Debt creates loans
Loans generate interest
Interest translates into profit$

/War is hell?
//Depends on the perspective
///Doesn't it?
 
2013-01-15 11:46:04 PM  

Amos Quito: halfof33: Ok tin foil, you have obviously no idea about the difference between "justifications" for war and "war time propaganda." They are not the same thing, but it is a subtle difference and there is no way that you will ever understand the difference

Let's see... one is intended to rally the popular support of the befuddled masses, while the other is intended to rally the popular support of the befuddled masses.

Amirite?


Lolz. One is used by historians to discuss complex events, the other is used by morans on Fark.
 
2013-01-15 11:48:19 PM  

Amos Quito: halfof33: Call me a retard again.


Okay, so you're a retard again.


War creates debt
Debt creates loans
Loans generate interest
Interest translates into profit$

/War is hell?
//Depends on the perspective
///Doesn't it?


Yeah, man, the Kaiser's creditors were ROLLING in it, holla holla holla!
 
2013-01-15 11:48:48 PM  

halfof33: leadmetal: Also on display is your emotional and rational retardation.

leadmetal: Ahh name calling and displaying another common trait of people like yourself, an inability to read and comprehend.

LOLZ! That is fantastic!

Anyway, you have all the hallmarks of the conspiracy theorists. Lets take one? "To get the peasantry to give up its children and treasure to the war effort." You see, our friend here thinks most people (except him and his friends) are peasants, easily manipulated by evil people that people like him see right through! Those ships that Germany was sinking in the Atlantic? Only a peasant would take notice of them.

Call me a retard again.


I didn't call you a retard. I stated you demonstrated retarded rational and emotional abilities. Now go look up the definition of the word retarded. (Hint: I am using in the way one would retard ignition timing on a 4 stroke gasoline engine) It was a test to see if you'd act like a character out of "Idiocracy" and congratulations, you have.

It's also amazing how much you read into things, just fill things in out of your own imagination on cue right out of your social conditioning. Here's a hint, peasantry just refers to those who don't make the decisions. Just the people who don't profit from war. The ones who at best can hope to get back to their homes in one piece. That's all. But they have to be convinced to go along. Then once they are convinced they cannot accept they were suckered so they stick by the lie and lash out at anyone who mentions the truth. You're a perfect example.

Perhaps Hermann Goering can explain it to you:
davidkretzmann.com

I've got a reading assignment for you. It was written by the most decorated Marine. Someone who's opinion about war and people being manipulated into it usually causes most people like yourself to go silent. Anyway, it might teach you something about what war is: War is a Racket
 
2013-01-15 11:53:27 PM  

leadmetal: halfof33: Ok tin foil, you have obviously no idea about the difference between "justifications" for war and "war time propaganda." They are not the same thing, but it is a subtle difference and there is no way that you will ever understand the difference. No way, you spout grossly inane talking points in the name of history. Pearl Harbor is an inside jobby job!

The fact that you think we went to war because Germans killed babies is farking embarrassing.


Ahh name calling and displaying another common trait of people like yourself, an inability to read and comprehend. It's all emotion. Just another well conditioned product of the american government schools.


Except, leadmetal, you insulted halfof33 earlier saying he was emotionally and rationally retarded. So yeah, I guess you are also unable to read and comprehend by this logic?
 
2013-01-15 11:55:11 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: "One day Samuel said to Saul, "It was the Lord who told me to anoint you as king of his people, Israel. Now listen to this message from the Lord! 2 This is what the Lord of Heaven's Armies has declared: I have decided to settle accounts with the nation of Amalek for opposing Israel when they came from Egypt. 3 Now go and completely destroy[a] the entire Amalekite nation-men, women, children, babies, cattle, sheep, goats, camels, and donkeys.""


Baron Munchausen: What's this?
Vulcan: Oh, this is our prototype. RX, uh, Intercontinental, radar-sneaky, multi-warheaded nuclear missile.
Baron Munchausen: Ah!...What does it do?
Vulcan: Do? Kills the enemy.
Baron Munchausen: All the enemy?
Vulcan: Aye, all of them. All their wives, and all their children, and all their sheep, and all their cattle, and all their cats and dogs. All of them. All of them, gone for good.
 
2013-01-15 11:59:45 PM  

leadmetal: Perhaps Hermann Goering can explain it to you:


Well, then, the non-peasant is quoting Hermann Goering. From the Nuremburg Trials.That CERTAINLY settles that. Any other words of wisdom from some of history's greatest criminals you want to share with us? Hitler perhaps?

He really quoted that, I am at a loss.

But he meant "retarded" in the positive, non-insulting way.
 
2013-01-16 12:00:27 AM  

make me some tea: Oh hell.


Don't worry, the USA has zero credibility in this department. Nobody relevant will follow them into war over over this kind of claim again.
 
2013-01-16 12:03:34 AM  
It's Syria's problem not ours. As soon as they cross a border it becomes something else. We (the US) have no right to intervene in internal conflicts of other countries unless it is a threat to the US or its allies. The same reason why invading Iraq was wrong makes this wrong.

We are not the world police, that is the job of the UN. That and letter writing.
 
2013-01-16 12:03:35 AM  
ah shiat . its done got real.
 
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