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(io9)   Nineteen-year-old activist makes life hell for Louisiana's creationists   (io9.com) divider line 72
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2013-01-15 04:59:23 PM  
28 votes:

Equilibrist: FARK needs a Creationist tab.


It would have to be intelligently designed.
2013-01-15 08:37:23 PM  
18 votes:
SkinnyHead: I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.  People who support academic freedom and freedom of thought probably don't.

For years I've been petitioning my local public school system to teach that the universe is controlled by a small, yet powerful cabal of wizards rather than that crap we call "physics." They have refused to do so every year, and I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that they're actively opposing academic freedom and freedom of thought.
2013-01-15 10:52:20 PM  
15 votes:
i154.photobucket.com

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!
2013-01-15 05:38:30 PM  
9 votes:

SkinnyHead: I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.  People who support academic freedom and freedom of thought probably don't.


Finally over your post-election depression?
2013-01-15 05:19:42 PM  
9 votes:
I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.  People who support academic freedom and freedom of thought probably don't.
2013-01-15 05:46:11 PM  
8 votes:

Raharu: SkinnyHead: I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.  People who support academic freedom and freedom of thought probably don't.

Creationism isn't science. It's mythology and fan fiction.
Really really bad fan fiction.


As opposed to the GOOD fan fic, where Snape and Malfoy talk about Russian literature before doin' it?
2013-01-15 05:47:44 PM  
7 votes:

what_now: Raharu: SkinnyHead: I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.  People who support academic freedom and freedom of thought probably don't.

Creationism isn't science. It's mythology and fan fiction.
Really really bad fan fiction.

As opposed to the GOOD fan fic, where Snape and Malfoy talk about Russian literature before doin' it?



I'll be in my bunk.
2013-01-15 05:00:23 PM  
7 votes:

phlegmmo: Equilibrist: FARK needs a Creationist tab.

It would have to be intelligently designed.



And never change over time.
2013-01-15 10:04:27 PM  
6 votes:
Kudos to <b>SkinnyHead</b>'s courageous attempts to debunk evolution by shiatting from his mouth.
2013-01-15 09:39:40 PM  
6 votes:
i49.tinypic.com
2013-01-15 09:07:30 PM  
6 votes:

ultraholland: SkinnyHead: I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.  People who support academic freedom and freedom of thought probably don't.

For years I've been petitioning my local public school system to teach that the universe is controlled by a small, yet powerful cabal of wizards rather than that crap we call "physics." They have refused to do so every year, and I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that they're actively opposing academic freedom and freedom of thought.


You people really make me ill.  This sort of thing only confuses our kids and makes them less likely to trust adults.
It's obviously the work of the reptilians who have taken human form.  Wizards?  Bah.
2013-01-15 09:46:37 PM  
5 votes:

SkinnyHead: I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.


Why would creationists see him as a hero?
2013-01-15 09:45:38 PM  
5 votes:
I would think life as a Creationist is already Hell. Convincing yourself that snakes can talk must be f*cking hard work.
2013-01-15 08:46:19 PM  
5 votes:
My book says that there is an all powerful Force that surrounds us, penetrates us and binds the galaxy together. Life creates it and makes it grow. And a powerful ally it is. And unlike these other theories, I have video of it. But you don't see me trying to force it in kid's textbooks.
2013-01-15 11:30:20 PM  
4 votes:
"Just search creationism on Monster Jobs or Career Builder and tell me how many creationist jobs you find,"

That's bullshait, there's lots of creationist jobs, they just aren't called that, but go by more conventional names like: night-shift stockman, gas-station attendant, grill attendant, Costco greeter.
2013-01-15 09:01:38 PM  
4 votes:
This kid has to be worried about getting out of his car and being mowed down in a hail of Jesus' love.
2013-01-15 05:38:50 PM  
4 votes:

SkinnyHead: I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.  People who support academic freedom and freedom of thought probably don't.


More deep thoughts by SkinnyHead?


/The EARTH IS FLAT!
2013-01-15 09:45:49 PM  
3 votes:
Sherman was an asshole for not finishing the job on the hateful hillbillies in the South.
2013-01-15 09:42:20 PM  
3 votes:
Go get 'em, young man.

** Two (opposable) thumbs up **
2013-01-15 05:43:53 PM  
3 votes:

SkinnyHead: I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.  People who support academic freedom and freedom of thought probably don't.




Creationism isn't science. It's mythology and fan fiction.
Really really bad fan fiction.
2013-01-16 02:35:40 AM  
2 votes:
pictures.mastermarf.com
2013-01-15 11:27:30 PM  
2 votes:

Tyranicle: IntertubeUser: Tyranicle: I'm an athiest who thinks Zack is probubly Jewish with a bone to pick whithin the WASP world he did not choose to be born to in. He should probubly grow a pair and move to Israel to 'fight' the Palestinians, instead of stirring up discourse whithin the world he hates.

I'm an atheist who thinks that your post is the dumbest thing posted in this thread.

And consider upgrading to a browser with spellcheck.

On a mobile. No spellcheck.


I think all of us here are deeply surprised that you know how to use a mobile phone.
2013-01-15 10:32:28 PM  
2 votes:
If fiercely enforcing a theory with no basis ever proven makes you a hero, the Fark's hero tag is not even worth wiping your butt with. That makes me sad.

Find any proponent of the Theory of Evolution, and they'll tell you that it's only a theory because it can't be proven.

Fark is choosing sides now?
2013-01-15 10:27:42 PM  
2 votes:
Geez, folks, why do you keep responding to the troll ShiattyHead? I can block his posts, but I can't block responses to his posts and every time I accidentally read something he wrote, I lose brain cells. Please don't feed the trolls, already!!!
2013-01-15 10:25:41 PM  
2 votes:
"Just search creationism on Monster Jobs or Career Builder and tell me how many creationist jobs you find," he asks.

Big Laugh OL on that one. Good for him.
2013-01-15 10:02:46 PM  
2 votes:

johnryan51: Raharu: phlegmmo: Equilibrist: FARK needs a Creationist tab.

It would have to be intelligently designed.


And never change over time.

Over time there would probably be schism ( Then what)?


Wipe hands on pants?

/Ewww....
2013-01-15 09:56:46 PM  
2 votes:

unchellmatt: BronyMedic: SkinnyHead: I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.  People who support academic freedom and freedom of thought probably don't.

And now it's time for a blast from the past!

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WAIT wait wait wait. Just... just wait. Did he really post that seriously? I mean... He meant that? That's the single most amusing thing I've read all day!


BUT WAIT! There's more! Tell them what else we've won, Johnny!

i248.photobucket.com

img218.imageshack.us
2013-01-15 09:51:36 PM  
2 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: Doesn't that mean women are more advanced than men? Or better designed?


I dunno, but I've dated a lot of women who get off on putting me in a pink collar and making me tell them that.
2013-01-15 09:39:07 PM  
2 votes:

Mugato: My book says that there is an all powerful Force that surrounds us, penetrates us and binds the galaxy together. Life creates it and makes it grow. And a powerful ally it is. And unlike these other theories, I have video of it. But you don't see me trying to force it in kid's textbooks.


Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
2013-01-16 02:58:08 PM  
1 votes:
Farking Canuck

Creationist threads are by far the most lopsided ones on Fark.

It is like creationists are the panicking woman in the movie Airplane and we are a lining up to "help calm her down".


Considering a nun was in that line, it's a little ironic.
2013-01-16 09:35:03 AM  
1 votes:

the_chief: Begoggle: the_chief: EvolutionISM is just another religion.

Allow me to enhance your otherwise mundane troll.

I think it's a fine twist on a classic.


Thanks for the verification chief ... welcome to ignore.

/no time for boring, sad little trolls
2013-01-16 08:32:09 AM  
1 votes:

Divinegrace: The Bible's order of operations for the creation {the bang, elements, stars/planets, and the order life appeared on Earth} matches what science has come up with to a tee!


The same way that The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner matches 50 Shades of Grey to a tee!
2013-01-16 08:17:35 AM  
1 votes:

bemused outsider: the other is essentially unobservable (ever see a fly mutate into an alligator?) in any human time-frame.


So... wait. You work in a scientific research lab, and yet you're capable of saying something as stupid as this?

fark, no wonder our country is doomed if even the scientists are stupid.
2013-01-16 02:57:30 AM  
1 votes:

peeledpeas: I love how so many of you actually believe that evolution is proven and cannot be questioned. Sounds like you've been indoctrinated to me! Evolution is NOT proven. There are very many portions of it that cannot be tested and can only be assumed to be a certain way. The assumptions are made in order to make the theory work. Simple as that. If you 100% believe in the theory of evolution, you're just as duped as a religious person who 100% believes in the six day creation. I don't 100% believe in anything except for the fact that I know there is a God that created everything. I may not know how He did it, but I know he did.


Kindly refer to my post above where I explain the difference between a theory in the common english of the term and theory in the sense of the scientific method. Evolution is fact. We've got evidence upon evidence. We've even seen it happen on the fly in the wild (Fire ol' Wikipedia up and read up on Nylonaise, if you would).

Science and religion are different in whether the goal is the method or the result. Science says, "This is what the evidence and our testing tells us. What conclusions can we get from this?" Theology says, "This is the fact. What can we use to prove it?" This is why faith fails and science succeeds. This is why you use a computer to post and not a quick prayer.
2013-01-16 02:10:18 AM  
1 votes:

peeledpeas: Mock26: the_chief: Evolution is just another religion.

There is at least evidence to support the theory of evolution. There is no evidence to support the existence of any divinity.

Eh,there is plenty of evidence. Some people simply refuse to see it.


I've got a great test for the existence or non-existence of a deity. It's actually one of the things that helped me get past Christianity. Unfortunately, about 99% of believers out there aren't gutsy enough to try it--instead, they'll just spew out the usual cop-outs about how "thou shallt not test thy god". I'll offer it anyways...

If you believe that God speaks to you, not necessarily in a Hebrew-accented voice, but in your thought patterns or inspiration or in some sort of spiritual way, here's a test. Simply ask God to tell you something you don't know, but can easily verify. If you don't know the first 50 digits of Pi, have God dictate them to you and write them down. Then go online and look up the digits of Pi. Or have God tell you the first name and phone number you'll see when you open a telephone directory to a random page. Or just have God give you the first verse you see when you open a Bible to a random page.

If God can't give you a simple, commonplace answer like a name or telephone number, how can you trust 'him' giving you profound spiritual truths? How then, do you know that the voice of 'god' in your head was just put there by all the hundreds of hours you spent in church over your lifetime?

I'll bet that no more than 1-2% of the Farker True Believers out there who read this post will actually attempt this test. I, Psycat the Great, profound prognosticator and know-it-all, predict that if any True Believer actually responds to this post, there's a 99% likelihood that they'll play the "thou shallt not test thy god" card or give a tired tenth-hand account of somebody somewhere far away and long ago getting some message from some god...
2013-01-16 12:46:24 AM  
1 votes:

Psycat: veryequiped: Find any proponent of the Theory of Evolution, and they'll tell you that it's only a theory because it can't be proven.

OK, troll, I'll bite. 'Theory' to a scientist means 'best explanation we have at present'. Only to idiots with a limited education does 'theory' mean 'wild guess'. Evolution has been proven a zillion times in fossils, geologic strata, carbon-14 and other radioactivity measurements, and genetics among many other things. Do cretinists, er, creationists have any proof for the 'Divine Poof Theory'? I'll take a wild guess--hell, no.


This is the standard rant of YouTuber AronRa whenever anyone tells him "evolution is just a theory":

It is a fact that evolution happens; that biodiversity and complexity do increase, that both occur naturally according to the laws of population genetics amid environmental dynamics.
It is a fact that alleles vary with increasing distinction in reproductive populations, and that these are accelerated in genetically isolated groups.
It is a fact that natural selection, sexual selection, and genetic drift have all been proven to have predictable effect in guiding this variance both in scientific literature and in practical application.
It is a fact that significant beneficial mutations do occur and are inherited by descendant groups, and that several independent sets of biological markers do exist which trace these lineages backwards over myriad generations.
It is a fact that birds are a subset of dinosaurs, in the same way that ducks are a subset of birds, and that humans are a subset of apes in exactly the same way that lions are a subset of cats.
It is a fact that the collective genome of all animals has been traced to its most basal form through reverse-sequencing, and that those forms are also indicated by comparative morphology, physiology, and embryological development, as well as through chronologically correct placement of successive stages revealed in the geologic column.
It is a fact that every animal on earth has obvious relatives either living nearby or evident in the fossil record, and that the fossil record holds hundreds of clearly transitional species even according to the strictest definition of that term.
It is a fact that both microevolution and macroevolution have been directly-observed and documented dozens of times, both in the lab and in naturally-controlled conditions in the field, and that these instances have all withstood critical analysis in peer-review.
It is also a fact that evolution is the only explanation of biodiversity with either evidentiary support or measurable validity, and that no would-be alternate notion has ever met even one of the criteria required of a scientific theory.
2013-01-16 12:06:43 AM  
1 votes:
This kid evolved some huge brass ones.
2013-01-15 11:49:13 PM  
1 votes:

Acharne: Tyranicle: IntertubeUser: Tyranicle: I'm an athiest who thinks Zack is probubly Jewish with a bone to pick whithin the WASP world he did not choose to be born to in. He should probubly grow a pair and move to Israel to 'fight' the Palestinians, instead of stirring up discourse whithin the world he hates.

I'm an atheist who thinks that your post is the dumbest thing posted in this thread.

And consider upgrading to a browser with spellcheck.

On a mobile. No spellcheck.

This reply to that post about your hilariously myopic post is doubleplus funny. Thank you for the laugh. Still though, you should be mad as hell that fact is tossed out for myth and legend in a classroom setting too. Everyone should be, especially the teachers.


Moving on to Reddit, where the Jew bosses at least commit suicide.
2013-01-15 11:45:18 PM  
1 votes:
Evolution is just another religion.
2013-01-15 11:00:09 PM  
1 votes:

Tyranicle: I'm an athiest who thinks Zack is probubly Jewish with a bone to pick whithin the WASP world he did not choose to be born to in. He should probubly grow a pair and move to Israel to 'fight' the Palestinians, instead of stirring up discourse whithin the world he hates.


You know who else blamed the Jews?
2013-01-15 10:46:20 PM  
1 votes:

spidermilk: My first thought was "Please let this kid not be an asshole." and then I read the article and he sounds like a total non-asshole. Just calmly and semi-quietly doing what he thinks is right. And not just to prove that he is smarter than him, but because he wants Louisianans to be successful.

The other day two church chicks came to my door and I thought "Ok, stay cool, don't be an asshole" and they gave me a little pamplet and told me where their church was. I said "Great, thanks! have a good one." and they didn't turn around to leave. Instead, the chick goes "Let me ask you- if you died today are you SURE-" and right there I rudely cut her off and said 'I'm an athiest so I don't believe in god." and she just said "WELL THERE IS A GOD!" and I said "ok, we all have our own beliefs- bye!"

and then I felt bad the rest of the day like I should have just said thanks and bye again instead of getting made and freaking her out.


Don't sell yourself short. I think you should feel good about yourself for not locking them both up in your rape dungeon.

/kidding
//unless you really have a rape dungeon
2013-01-15 10:45:56 PM  
1 votes:
I don't give a shiat about creation and/or evolution, religion nor politics, but I find this amusing FTA:

"Kopplin, who is studying history at Rice University, had good reason to be upset after"

...he will be flipping burgers soon.
2013-01-15 10:36:03 PM  
1 votes:

veryequiped: If fiercely enforcing a theory with no basis ever proven makes you a hero, the Fark's hero tag is not even worth wiping your butt with. That makes me sad.

Find any proponent of the Theory of Evolution, and they'll tell you that it's only a theory because it can't be proven.

Fark is choosing sides now?


1/10. The all bold didn't help.
2013-01-15 10:34:39 PM  
1 votes:
This thread:
t1.gstatic.com
2013-01-15 10:27:06 PM  
1 votes:

Dokushin: ModernLuddite: As a (former) Floridian, I genuinely hope - FERVENTLY - for a hurricane of such magnitude to hit the gulf of Mexico that it just destroys the south. Completely. No survivors. Raze the Earth.

Luckily, retarded policy decisions may be helping this scenario along. So drill, baby, drill, I guess.

Yeah, I support anyone who wants complete eradication of life in regions that they don't like! What if I don't like the Middle East? Do I get a Hurricane too? Or is it just your prejudice that gets sky support?


No, only I decide who lives or dies.
2013-01-15 10:24:23 PM  
1 votes:
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2013-01-15 10:21:23 PM  
1 votes:
Silly question, I haven't been paying attention to the ID/creationism threads (my mind got made up back when creationtheory.org was still being routinely updated), but is SkinnyHead the new Bevets?
Do people still post the "Summon Bevets" Magic:The Gathering card?
Does rum go better with Pepsi Max or Coke Zero?
2013-01-15 10:18:11 PM  
1 votes:

SkinnyHead: I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.  People who support academic freedom and freedom of thought probably don't.


See? this is what happens when you mix meth and mushrooms.
2013-01-15 10:16:08 PM  
1 votes:

Relatively Obscure: Kudos to <b>SkinnyHead</b>'s courageous attempts to debunk evolution by shiatting from his mouth.


It's an evolutionary adaptation, like those lizards that squirt blood out of their eyes.
2013-01-15 10:13:06 PM  
1 votes:
As a (former) Floridian, I genuinely hope - FERVENTLY - for a hurricane of such magnitude to hit the gulf of Mexico that it just destroys the south. Completely. No survivors. Raze the Earth.

Luckily, retarded policy decisions may be helping this scenario along. So drill, baby, drill, I guess.
2013-01-15 10:08:04 PM  
1 votes:
How come we aren't teaching the alternate theory of gravity? That ANGELS hold us down by our ankles. I mean gravity, its only a THEORY... right?
2013-01-15 10:01:12 PM  
1 votes:

Kevin72: Do they really believe that Noah was 600 years old when God told him to build the ark? And that Noah lived for 350 years after the flood? AND that the world is only 6000 years old? The math boggles my mind. But at least they are sticking it to those liberals who are brainwashing kids at colleges.


Even if you ignore the math, there's the logistics and mechanics to consider: an old man and his three sons building a wooden ship as long and tall as a football stadium and half as wide; the seaworthiness of such a vessel; the four of them and their respective wives herding two of every land animal on Earth into that ship, including animals that probably didn't live within walking distance of their house, such as penguins, Komodo dragons and ocelots; a few months' worth of food for the lot of them, including ants for the anteaters; 40 days and 40 nights of non-stop rainfall, followed by several weeks or months of waiting for the rain waters to recede; and repopulation of the various species, which would have some serious inbreeding going on for the first few generations.

A more thorough deconstruction was in a Fark thread a few weeks ago. I can't be arsed to look it up right now, but there was detailed discussion on the rainfall, the ship and the menagerie.

_____________________________

LazerFish: Politicians are stupid. We know this. The thing that is wrong about this is that the teachers want to teach intelligent design.


And the politicians passed legislation allowing it.
2013-01-15 09:54:59 PM  
1 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: BronyMedic: Ah, SkinnyHead is one of those "more information" types of creationists.

I wonder what happens when we add more information to an organism. Let's add more copies of chromosome 13... Or wait, don't women have more DNA than men? Doesn't that mean women are more advanced than men? Or better designed? Hmmm.


I was told women have more ribs than men.

\grew up in rural Oklahoma
2013-01-15 09:53:00 PM  
1 votes:
I would prefer they teach all of the various creation stories then. I would like someone to petition the ACLU about my rights being infringed upon.
2013-01-15 09:52:58 PM  
1 votes:

Insatiable Jesus: Sherman was an asshole for not finishing the job on the hateful hillbillies in the South.


It causes you great pain to think, doesn't it? That's why you stereotype and act hypocritical, right?
2013-01-15 09:52:18 PM  
1 votes:
I sincerely hope this kid is banging all kinds of hot rebellious hippy chicks.
2013-01-15 09:48:07 PM  
1 votes:
I'd bang the fake blonde chick in the video even though she's a moron.
2013-01-15 09:47:58 PM  
1 votes:
I've always liked the native american creation myths why can't the schools teach those?
2013-01-15 09:46:51 PM  
1 votes:
doyner: Just think how poor of a job those teachers were doing all along if they've always been itching to teach that crap.

but it's not just them, it's everybody around them. Their friends, family, teachers, peers...hell, society has failed them. They've been allowed to make it to the point where they find it appropriate to pass on their idiocy. I accept partial responsibility.
2013-01-15 09:45:33 PM  
1 votes:
BronyMedic: Ah, SkinnyHead is one of those "more information" types of creationists.

I wonder what happens when we add more information to an organism. Let's add more copies of chromosome 13... Or wait, don't women have more DNA than men? Doesn't that mean women are more advanced than men? Or better designed? Hmmm.
2013-01-15 09:44:08 PM  
1 votes:

Kevin72: AND that the world is only 6000 years old?


They really do.  I had a professor last term that, while excellent at teaching the subject he taught, couldn't help but occasionally throw in some of his "worldview opinions" which included that and other batshiat-crazy ideas.  I can say with 100% certainty that he actually believed all that stuff.

He also once said that slavery the way the US did it was terrible and wrong, but slavery the way the bible talked about it was wonderful and a blessing form God.
2013-01-15 09:42:31 PM  
1 votes:

SkinnyHead: I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.  People who support academic freedom and freedom of thought probably don't.


If only oppressed Christians had a place where they could meet and discuss their beliefs on how the world was made.
2013-01-15 09:42:17 PM  
1 votes:
Just think how poor of a job those teachers were doing all along if they've always been itching to teach that crap.
2013-01-15 09:42:05 PM  
1 votes:
I enjoy how they said he caused Hurricane Katrina. It's how you can tell you're dealing with scholars.
2013-01-15 09:39:18 PM  
1 votes:
Pray for a scientific conclusion.
2013-01-15 09:35:34 PM  
1 votes:
Do they really believe that Noah was 600 years old when God told him to build the ark? And that Noah lived for 350 years after the flood? AND that the world is only 6000 years old? The math boggles my mind. But at least they are sticking it to those liberals who are brainwashing kids at colleges.
2013-01-15 09:30:42 PM  
1 votes:
SkinnyHead: They don't take you seriously because you're not being serious.

No...

dahmers love zombie: It's obviously the work of the reptilians who have taken human form. Wizards? Bah.

...that's not being serious. And even if it is I'll be damned if adherents to Lizardism can their foot in our educational system's door.
2013-01-15 09:19:01 PM  
1 votes:
That should also be a job for world tree activists and well every other religious creation story.
2013-01-15 09:07:28 PM  
1 votes:
Does this mean we can get Intelligent Falling taught?
2013-01-15 05:31:46 PM  
1 votes:

SkinnyHead: I guess people who oppose academic freedom and support censorship would see this young man as a hero.  People who support academic freedom and freedom of thought probably don't.

2013-01-15 05:23:41 PM  
1 votes:
This kid's awesome.
2013-01-15 04:58:05 PM  
1 votes:
FARK needs a Creationist tab.
 
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