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(Wired)   Wired: "The US Navy's new class of ship is about to be deployed. Here's how to destroy them"   (wired.com) divider line 75
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2013-01-15 03:55:37 PM  
It's a Littoral combat ship. Can't you C it will be hard to find?
 
2013-01-15 04:04:57 PM  

moran_moran: It's a Littoral combat ship. Can't you C it will be hard to find?


Like searching the waves for a little man in a boat?
 
2013-01-15 04:10:27 PM  
Somehow, I don't think "shoot at it" is a huge secret
 
2013-01-15 04:12:46 PM  
When I heard they were using an aluminum superstructure on the Littoral class, I was wondering didn't anyone remember the lessons from the 1970s?
 
2013-01-15 04:44:16 PM  
This is littorally the worst ship ever.
 
2013-01-15 04:46:11 PM  
I'm sure Wired will be the downfall of the US Navy, subby.
 
2013-01-15 04:48:30 PM  

AirForceVet: When I heard they were using an aluminum superstructure on the Littoral class, I was wondering didn't anyone remember the lessons from the 1970s?


USS Belknap and its aluminum superstructure after colliding with aircraft carrier USS John F. Kennedy in 1975, catching fire.

upload.wikimedia.org

/History often repeats itself unfortunately.
 
2013-01-15 04:52:21 PM  
www.geekvintage.com
Four of these?
 
2013-01-15 04:55:39 PM  
Unless it has 2 CIWS, a 64 cell VLS and armour it will not have much of a chance in a real combat situation.
 
2013-01-15 04:56:41 PM  
So, which congressional district was this built in? I just want to know where all the pork is going.
 
2013-01-15 04:57:39 PM  

Ennuipoet: [www.geekvintage.com image 210x110]
Four of these?


No ... ONE of those.
 
2013-01-15 05:03:37 PM  

t3knomanser: So, which congressional district was this built in? I just want to know where all the pork is going.


Marinette Marine shipyard in Wisconsin.
 
2013-01-15 05:10:42 PM  
Whatever direction the Navy was thinking of going in to stay relevant in today's threat environment....this is NOT IT.
 
2013-01-15 05:13:27 PM  
Freedom of "Speech"? Sure. Freedom of "the Press"? I think it is time for some new, common sense based regulation.

/snark
 
2013-01-15 05:31:39 PM  
55 of these? Really? What a waste. This money would be better invested in paying down the national debt.

US Defense Industry. Protecting your freedom the US Defense Industry.
 
2013-01-15 05:31:54 PM  

doyner: Ennuipoet: [www.geekvintage.com image 210x110]
Four of these?

No ... ONE of those.


This game sucks!
 
2013-01-15 05:39:33 PM  
Abandon ship!
 
2013-01-15 05:40:36 PM  
 
2013-01-15 05:45:04 PM  

AirForceVet: When I heard they were using an aluminum superstructure on the Littoral class, I was wondering didn't anyone remember the lessons from the 1970s?


Mostly every superstructure is aluminum as far back as the USS Long Beach (constr began in '57 commish in '61). At least the ladders were steel.

I'd have to look it up but I remember a nightmare story where a firefighting team was sent into an burning engine room and couldn't retreat because the aluminum ladders melted from the heat. They all suffocated when their OBA's ran out of air (about an hours worth IIRC) that was in the late 80's but I don't remember how old the ship was.
 
2013-01-15 05:58:09 PM  

t3knomanser: So, which congressional district was this built in? I just want to know where all the pork is going.


My question exactly. Who built this shiat?
 
2013-01-15 06:00:51 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Marinette Marine shipyard


Thank you. They should be ashamed...if for no other reason than to allow the shiatty guns on their otherwise fine vessel.
 
2013-01-15 06:13:15 PM  

One Bad Apple: AirForceVet: When I heard they were using an aluminum superstructure on the Littoral class, I was wondering didn't anyone remember the lessons from the 1970s?

Mostly every superstructure is aluminum as far back as the USS Long Beach (constr began in '57 commish in '61). At least the ladders were steel.

I'd have to look it up but I remember a nightmare story where a firefighting team was sent into an burning engine room and couldn't retreat because the aluminum ladders melted from the heat. They all suffocated when their OBA's ran out of air (about an hours worth IIRC) that was in the late 80's but I don't remember how old the ship was.


I never got more than about 30 min of air on my OBA, I think it was rated for 45 minutes, but it never seemed to last that long.

My ship had steel ladders in the engineering spaces, but aluminum other places. Something like that could have very well happened, which is why they put steel in my engine room, 1982 construction.
 
2013-01-15 06:31:02 PM  
Oh, this is DOTE's report to congress. They always complain that we don't do enough testing, and they're normally right. The problem is there's always money to buy crap, there's not ever enough to do testing properly. A LOT of crap gets pushed through that has to be fixed later.
 
2013-01-15 06:38:12 PM  

One Bad Apple: AirForceVet: When I heard they were using an aluminum superstructure on the Littoral class, I was wondering didn't anyone remember the lessons from the 1970s?

Mostly every superstructure is aluminum as far back as the USS Long Beach (constr began in '57 commish in '61). At least the ladders were steel.

I'd have to look it up but I remember a nightmare story where a firefighting team was sent into an burning engine room and couldn't retreat because the aluminum ladders melted from the heat. They all suffocated when their OBA's ran out of air (about an hours worth IIRC) that was in the late 80's but I don't remember how old the ship was.


Burke's are all steel.
 
2013-01-15 06:42:22 PM  

the_innkeeper: Burke's are all steel.


...and a very mature platform with a great modernization track record.  We should be building more of them IMO.
 
2013-01-15 06:52:07 PM  
I think the LHD is also all steel, but that's pretty damn close to an aircraft carrier.
 
2013-01-15 06:52:47 PM  
You know what we should keep doing? Building giant ships, complex aircraft, and cumbersome land vehicles that require expensive, specialized infrastructure, personnel trained on systems so specific that not only can they only do "that one thing", but their skills are useless outside of the military, and take so long to research develop, and build that by the time they deploy, any enemy with a real chance of doing harm to them and their crew already knows how to do so.

What we SHOULDN'T do is spend the same money on developing swarms, fleets, and armies of disposable remotely piloted drones that reduce our loss of life, requisites for a deployed force, and necessary support infrastructure, because then we wouldn't have billions (trillions) of dollars of military contractor welfare handed out to companies (and the select few who decide where those dollars go) while not being accountable for any of it.

/woo america
 
2013-01-15 06:55:39 PM  
Sorry Ike, we should have listened to you, but in the 60's businesses realized they can vote themselves money and they've been at the trough ever since.
 
2013-01-15 06:56:50 PM  

Richard Saunders: moran_moran: It's a Littoral combat ship. Can't you C it will be hard to find?

Like searching the waves for a little man in a boat?


But stealth could be countered if the enemy were to intercept our communications. Loose lips sink ships.

Perhaps the Navy would employ Navajo code talkers, so that we would only be vulnerable to an enemy with cunning linguists.
 
2013-01-15 06:58:28 PM  

whither_apophis: Sorry Ike, we should have listened to you, but in the 60's businesses realized they can vote themselves money and they've been at the trough ever since.


Damnable simulpost. Mine took too long to type.
 
2013-01-15 07:02:30 PM  
And I suspect the control software was written in Ada, the language that's never done.
 
2013-01-15 07:04:14 PM  

Relatively Obscure: I'm sure Wired will be the downfall of the US Navy, subby.


Well wouldn't know it's not combat ready if nobody revealed that fact. We should be talking about the corbomite device it definitely has that makes it impervious to any attack and will utterly destroy the attacker.
 
2013-01-15 07:07:47 PM  
I see no such information in the article, subtard.

If the people of the US bought a lemon with their defense budget, they have a right to know.
 
2013-01-15 07:10:40 PM  

Nem Wan: Relatively Obscure: I'm sure Wired will be the downfall of the US Navy, subby.

Well wouldn't know it's not combat ready if nobody revealed that fact. We should be talking about the corbomite device it definitely has that makes it impervious to any attack and will utterly destroy the attacker.


Not to mention the fact that the daily rum ration has been replaced with tranya.

I hope the crew will relish it as much as I.

*sip* ahhhh

HAAA, HA-HAAA, HA HA, HA HA HA HA HA
 
2013-01-15 07:19:55 PM  

grinding_journalist: ...
What we SHOULDN'T do is spend the same money on developing swarms, fleets, and armies of disposable remotely piloted drones...

You sound like you'll help me find Sarah Connor. Would you happen to know where she is?

 
2013-01-15 07:20:08 PM  
fark you. It was $670 million of stimulating the economy. When it's destroyed and rebuilt, that much more economy stimulating.
 
2013-01-15 07:21:06 PM  
Ack. Bad formatting on that last one. Sorry.
 
2013-01-15 07:29:54 PM  
A Navy vessel that doesn't work and will require extensive and expensive design fixes to correct.  Lemme guess, Lockheed or General-Dynamics is the builder...

USS Freedom (LCS-1) is produced by the Lockheed Martin consortium, in competition with the General Dynamics-designed USS Independence

Can we nuke those two from orbit already?  Farking corporate welfare and theft at its worse.
 
2013-01-15 07:41:11 PM  

Dinjiin: A Navy vessel that doesn't work and will require extensive and expensive design fixes to correct.  Lemme guess, Lockheed or General-Dynamics is the builder...

USS Freedom (LCS-1) is produced by the Lockheed Martin consortium, in competition with the General Dynamics-designed USS Independence

Can we nuke those two from orbit already?  Farking corporate welfare and theft at its worse.


Was just onboard LCS-1 about an hour ago, dealing with a hanger door issue. Getting a kick, etc.
 
2013-01-15 07:56:32 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Somehow, I don't think "shoot at it" is a huge secret


No, but knowing it can't target you or shoot back is a big plus when it comes time for you to pick a target.
 
2013-01-15 08:06:15 PM  
I agree that our overall defense spending is far excessive, but honestly the complaints sound the same as every new piece of military hardware in the last 50 years. If it performs it's role effectively will be the real test, regardless of what additional assets it ends up requiring to do so. Honestly, name ONE piece of modern military hardware that was released and everyone said 'holy shiatsnacks, this thing is amazing'.

/Disqualifying the SR-71 because it was, in fact, amazing.
//Also, it didn't get revealed until well past the new hardware shakedown and 'whoops, if you turn right with the left blinker on it explodes' stages.
 
2013-01-15 08:17:15 PM  

AirForceVet: When I heard they were using an aluminum superstructure on the Littoral class, I was wondering didn't anyone remember the lessons from the 1970s?


Didn't they find out aluminum hulls, fires and salt water are not a good mix in Ww1??
 
2013-01-15 08:18:26 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Honestly, name ONE piece of modern military hardware that was released and everyone said 'holy shiatsnacks, this thing is amazing'.


Armed Predator Drones.

See my previous post in this thread.
 
2013-01-15 08:54:39 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: I agree that our overall defense spending is far excessive, but honestly the complaints sound the same as every new piece of military hardware in the last 50 years. If it performs it's role effectively will be the real test, regardless of what additional assets it ends up requiring to do so. Honestly, name ONE piece of modern military hardware that was released and everyone said 'holy shiatsnacks, this thing is amazing'.

/Disqualifying the SR-71 because it was, in fact, amazing.
//Also, it didn't get revealed until well past the new hardware shakedown and 'whoops, if you turn right with the left blinker on it explodes' stages.


The Switchblade SUAV?
 
2013-01-15 09:01:48 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Honestly, name ONE piece of modern military hardware that was released and everyone said 'holy shiatsnacks, this thing is amazing'.


F117
 
2013-01-15 09:04:51 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Honestly, name ONE piece of modern military hardware that was released and everyone said 'holy shiatsnacks, this thing is amazing'.


The X-37 seems like it might fit the bill if anyone knew what the fark it was up to.
 
2013-01-15 09:50:12 PM  
Did any bothans die to get us this information?
 
2013-01-15 09:55:12 PM  

jigger: fark you. It was $670 million of stimulating the economy. When it's destroyed and rebuilt, that much more economy stimulating.


You're a monster, Zorg.
 
2013-01-15 10:00:13 PM  
This was spun off from a earlier idea that the navy needed more smaller ships. The navy then turned it into a ship 3X as large as recommended. Then to add insult to injury the price was originally estimated at 200 million each, then 400 million, and finally ballooned into a 650 million ship that has had serious issues. Not the least of it was the shipyard mixing steel and aluminum and not apparently understanding the issues that would result. They even tried blaming the navy claiming that the navy wasn't doing proper maintenance before a navy bean counter went all medieval on them as I recall.

I'd rather have the original idea, 1/3 the size, and a LOT less money for each boondoggle.

the modular design is great, but it would be better in a smaller vessel. And we would order a LOT more of them. More flexibility, faster integration of changes, and less eggs in one basket in a military environment.
 
2013-01-15 10:36:49 PM  
Last I heard submarines cost a lot more than $670 million. So why is everyone so up in arms about this? Seems like a great deal to me. Sure it might have a few "resurfacing" issues, but a few lift bags ought to do the trick.
 
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