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(The Citizen)   The good news: After two years of chemotherapy you are tumor-free. The bad news: You never had cancer in the first place   (thelocal.se ) divider line
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2013-01-15 05:10:38 PM  
So he wasn't a tumor?
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-15 05:11:33 PM  
So medical professionals dosed someone with massive quantities of poison for no reason.

An you say homeopaths are the crazy ones...
 
2013-01-15 05:11:56 PM  
[Archer.jpg]
 
2013-01-15 05:12:38 PM  
Jackpot!
 
2013-01-15 05:14:12 PM  
Thanks socialized medicine!

Welcome to 0bummer's Amercia, libs.
 
2013-01-15 05:15:01 PM  
Doh!
 
2013-01-15 05:18:27 PM  

chard: Thanks socialized medicine!

Welcome to 0bummer's Amercia, libs.


Oh, I assure you privately paid medical professionals are capable of removing the wrong organ or operating on the wrong side. Doctors make mistakes, occasionally big mistakes, guess that's why they call it practice.

We have an expensive, for-profit payment system that gets us equally fallible doctors.
 
2013-01-15 05:18:32 PM  
It's a miracle!
 
2013-01-15 05:23:09 PM  

thumbs.anyclip.com

So, according to this hospital Alan Stanwyck doesn't have cancer? He'll be so relived!



/Thank you Dr. Rosenpenis
 
2013-01-15 05:25:15 PM  

chard: Thanks socialized medicine!

Welcome to 0bummer's Amercia, libs.


So... an extra 3 years of life expectancy on average? Eh, I'll get over it.
 
2013-01-15 05:27:26 PM  
Funny, when I google Lars-Göran Holtby all of his quotes seem to be about medical mistakes. There's this one, one where an entire hip was removed instead of a growth, and one where the wrong patient gets eye surgery.

How...curious.
 
2013-01-15 05:29:20 PM  
I had a huge lump and I was worried that it was cancer.  I found a miracle cure though - Preparation H.
 
2013-01-15 05:29:26 PM  
data.whicdn.com

Haha. Got yer cancer.
 
2013-01-15 05:32:18 PM  

the_rhino: [Archer.jpg]


Rampage!
 
2013-01-15 05:34:31 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Funny, when I google Lars-Göran Holtby all of his quotes seem to be about medical mistakes. There's this one, one where an entire hip was removed instead of a growth, and one where the wrong patient gets eye surgery.

How...curious.


Maybe, but under what other circumstances would the Chief Physician of a hospital be making press statements? Only other things that come to mind are being appointed/resigning and maybe some breakthrough procedure being successful?
 
2013-01-15 05:48:24 PM  
www.wallchan.com
 
2013-01-15 05:49:22 PM  
Pre-emptive cancer therapy for everyone!
 
2013-01-15 05:50:02 PM  
Now, Joe *doesn't* have to fight the volcano.
 
2013-01-15 05:54:05 PM  

chard: Thanks socialized medicine!

Welcome to 0bummer's Amercia, libs.


Correlation != Causation

Didn't they used to teach this in grade-school?
 
2013-01-15 05:57:24 PM  

Holocaust Agnostic: An you say homeopaths are the crazy ones...


Yes. Yes I do.
 
2013-01-15 06:12:56 PM  
The dr's in a RI area hospital managed to fuse the intestines in a former in-law they irradiated her so hard.
Oh yeah she died, and she died hard too.
She was old and miserable to begin with so it's okay then?
No, no it's not it's not at all okay.
Farking savages.  Just because you have letters before your name doesn't mean you can't be a savage
 
2013-01-15 06:13:24 PM  
Whoopsie-doodle
 
2013-01-15 06:15:09 PM  
A subsequent examination revealed that doctors had been wrong in diagnosing the woman with cancer, realizing that what they had seen on the x-rays two years prior weren't actually tumours

I am not a doctor, nor did I stay at a Best Western last night, but I'm kind of shocked they would go for two years of chemo based solely on x-rays. I would think that if x-rays suggested tumors, they would then do other tests to gather more information before jumping into chemo.
 
2013-01-15 06:28:22 PM  
Happens more often than it should. One of my professors is currently involved with a case where the fine needle aspiration biopsy (just a small sample of cells) was called cancer but no cancer could be found in the large surgical resection. In a different case, the radiologist called cancer (no biopsy done) and the area of interest in the resection was only a lymph node with intense inflammation, which is difficult to separate from cancer by radiology.

/scary scary stuff
//homeo/naturopaths can do some RCTs demonstrating effectiveness and then we can talk
 
2013-01-15 06:28:33 PM  

Jument: A subsequent examination revealed that doctors had been wrong in diagnosing the woman with cancer, realizing that what they had seen on the x-rays two years prior weren't actually tumours

I am not a doctor, nor did I stay at a Best Western last night, but I'm kind of shocked they would go for two years of chemo based solely on x-rays. I would think that if x-rays suggested tumors, they would then do other tests to gather more information before jumping into chemo.


X-rays are cheap. I live next door in Norway. MRIs are a big deal with long waits. Same shiat in Sweden.
 
2013-01-15 06:58:49 PM  
This actually happened to my cousin. He was diagnosed with cancer, sold all his possessions to pay for treatment, including a classic MG; and moved into hospice. The hospice doctors told him they couldn't find any cancer.

For some reason, he didn't sue.

/csb
 
2013-01-15 07:14:27 PM  
Filter:
X-rays are cheap. I live next door in Norway. MRIs are a big deal with long waits. Same shiat in Sweden.

This is the first thing that caught my eye in this article also. As a cancer patient...I'm getting a kick (seriously, I am one). Who in the HELL gives chemo on the basis of x-rays alone? I'm saying CT Scan, PET Scan, with a biopsy thrown in there to be absolutely, positively sure.

I'm really sorry this woman has debilitating results from the chemo, but c'mon...she never asked for proof? They never did tumor markers on her? How did they even know what chemo to give her without typing the tumor for estrogen/progesterone status. Her 2 status? This is completely full blown retard all the way around.

/Jesus Christ!
//Drops mic
//Slashies!
 
2013-01-15 07:15:27 PM  

Jument: A subsequent examination revealed that doctors had been wrong in diagnosing the woman with cancer, realizing that what they had seen on the x-rays two years prior weren't actually tumours

I am not a doctor, nor did I stay at a Best Western last night, but I'm kind of shocked they would go for two years of chemo based solely on x-rays. I would think that if x-rays suggested tumors, they would then do other tests to gather more information before jumping into chemo.


When you have a doctor "erring on the side of caution" in their diagnosis, most people take their doctor's diagnosis unquestioning. If you get diagnosed, first thing you should do is get a 3rd opinion.

My 2nd cousin's wife was diagnosed with uterine cancer (in this case she did have it) and went through radiation treatment. She lived a year after seriously doped up as it burned up her bowel and was in pain on maximum drugs. In this case the cure was worse than the disease. Next time you see "died from complications of cancer" you now know what they mean.
 
2013-01-15 07:26:06 PM  

illannoyin: So, according to this hospital Alan Stanwyck doesn't have cancer? He'll be so relived!

/Thank you Dr. Rosenpenis


+ 50 intratoobs
 
2013-01-15 07:30:50 PM  

Liz Lemon: This is the first thing that caught my eye in this article also. As a cancer patient...I'm getting a kick (seriously, I am one). Who in the HELL gives chemo on the basis of x-rays alone? I'm saying CT Scan, PET Scan, with a biopsy thrown in there to be absolutely, positively sure.


It is likely a matter of translation. The Swedish article cited as the source says 'röntgenundersökningar' which can mean 'x-ray' but is also used as a generic term for all medical imaging.
 
2013-01-15 07:50:51 PM  

Dylan and Eric: Happens more often than it should. One of my professors is currently involved with a case where the fine needle aspiration biopsy (just a small sample of cells) was called cancer but no cancer could be found in the large surgical resection. In a different case, the radiologist called cancer (no biopsy done) and the area of interest in the resection was only a lymph node with intense inflammation, which is difficult to separate from cancer by radiology.

/scary scary stuff
//homeo/naturopaths can do some RCTs demonstrating effectiveness and then we can talk


CSB:

I had a growth in my neck that appeared when I was 15 or so. I didn't really notice it at the time because I had chronic tonsilitis that lasted 3 months at a time (recurring each of the 2 following winters) that inflamed my lymph nodes something fierce. Luckily(?), I was a little overweight so you didn't notice it unless you were looking for it or if you felt for it.

When I finally noticed the growth separate from the tonsilitis, I went through a barrage of tests: biopsy, CAT scan, MRI, rinse and repeat. Saw three separate ENTs, not one of which could definitively say what it was. Theories included: a cyst, an inflamed lymph node, or a tumor. All they knew was it was benign. They finally told me we just had to remove it in order to find out what it was. It turned out to be a nerve tumor. I guess I should be thankful they didn't think it was malignant.

/okay, maybe not a CSB, but a RelevantSB
 
2013-01-15 07:55:56 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: Liz Lemon: This is the first thing that caught my eye in this article also. As a cancer patient...I'm getting a kick (seriously, I am one). Who in the HELL gives chemo on the basis of x-rays alone? I'm saying CT Scan, PET Scan, with a biopsy thrown in there to be absolutely, positively sure.

It is likely a matter of translation. The Swedish article cited as the source says 'röntgenundersökningar' which can mean 'x-ray' but is also used as a generic term for all medical imaging.


This is about the last god damn thing i expected to learn here.

/just sayin
 
2013-01-15 07:57:36 PM  
Well, that means she's now cancer-proof for like 20 years, right?
 
2013-01-15 08:04:41 PM  

Marcintosh: The dr's in a RI area hospital managed to fuse the intestines in a former in-law they irradiated her so hard.
Oh yeah she died, and she died hard too.
She was old and miserable to begin with so it's okay then?
No, no it's not it's not at all okay.
Farking savages.  Just because you have letters before your name doesn't mean you can't be a savage


This shyte will go the way of bloodletting and balancing the humors someday. It's obviously a shockingly primitive approach to healing.
 
2013-01-15 08:05:23 PM  
This shyte will go the way of bloodletting and balancing the humors someday. It's obviously a shockingly primitive approach to healing.
 
2013-01-15 08:10:31 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: This shyte will go the way of bloodletting and balancing the humors someday. It's obviously a shockingly primitive approach to healing.


www.startrek.com

What is this, the Dark Ages?
 
2013-01-15 08:13:29 PM  
Preventative medicine! It's like using Head and Shoulders before you get dandruff.
 
2013-01-15 08:37:38 PM  
There are worse things, like the diagnosis being correct. Ask David Geffen.
 
2013-01-15 08:51:26 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: Holocaust Agnostic: An you say homeopaths are the crazy ones...

Yes. Yes I do.


Agreed. The "science" behind homeopathy is about as poor as science can get. Basically, if I "charge" something enough by diluting it further it gets stronger. To the point where there is no physical molecules of the original substance. Makes perfect sense.
 
2013-01-15 09:12:34 PM  

filter: Jument: A subsequent examination revealed that doctors had been wrong in diagnosing the woman with cancer, realizing that what they had seen on the x-rays two years prior weren't actually tumours

I am not a doctor, nor did I stay at a Best Western last night, but I'm kind of shocked they would go for two years of chemo based solely on x-rays. I would think that if x-rays suggested tumors, they would then do other tests to gather more information before jumping into chemo.

X-rays are cheap. I live next door in Norway. MRIs are a big deal with long waits. Same shiat in Sweden.


Well, that's why you start with x-rays: they're cheap. But then you do more tests as needed to get to the bottom of it. Call me crazy but I'm not starting on chemo on the basis of x-rays alone. Maybe I've just been watching too much TV.
 
2013-01-15 09:24:07 PM  

Holocaust Agnostic: So medical professionals dosed someone with massive quantities of poison for no reason.

An you say homeopaths are the crazy ones...


Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the vindication of all kooks correllary to the theory of crank magnetism.
 
2013-01-15 09:25:24 PM  
Win-win, I say.
 
2013-01-15 10:06:01 PM  

Curse of the Goth Kids: Sum Dum Gai: Liz Lemon: This is the first thing that caught my eye in this article also. As a cancer patient...I'm getting a kick (seriously, I am one). Who in the HELL gives chemo on the basis of x-rays alone? I'm saying CT Scan, PET Scan, with a biopsy thrown in there to be absolutely, positively sure.

It is likely a matter of translation. The Swedish article cited as the source says 'röntgenundersökningar' which can mean 'x-ray' but is also used as a generic term for all medical imaging.

This is about the last god damn thing i expected to learn here.

/just sayin


Fark teaches you all kinds of things. Some of them you never intended to learn.
 
2013-01-15 10:42:33 PM  
tumor would benign
 
2013-01-15 11:08:00 PM  

chard: Thanks socialized medicine!

Welcome to 0bummer's Amercia, libs.


It's fu*king Sweden you moran!
 
2013-01-15 11:52:13 PM  
Reminds me if the elderly surgeon, when asked about a botched vasectomy that left a young man without a penis because the surgeon's hand slipped, replied "Too bad about the boy."

/WTF?
 
2013-01-16 02:15:29 AM  
Chemo is no fun. To go through it for two years for no valid reason? I'd drag my ashen-faced, weakened self over to the doctor's office and kindly ask for a refund. And for the last two years of my life back.
 
2013-01-16 05:45:15 AM  
Doctors...great for stitching up cuts, setting broken bones, etc. Past that, the majority of the time you are better off letting things take care of themselves. Would rather the cancer kill me (if I actually HAVE it) than the 'doctors'.

TL:DR: Life is a terminal illness that everyone is going to die from. Would rather what little money I DO have to go to my children/family then to a doctor that gives less than a fark about me.
 
2013-01-16 07:00:22 AM  
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