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2013-01-16 12:24:03 PM  

xxcorydxx: sandy hook was a little fishy,


What do you mean?
 
2013-01-16 02:08:43 PM  
willfullyobscure: There's absolutely nothing wrong with an assault weapon ban. These weapons platforms are totally inappropriate for civilian society based simply on their appearance and their features.

Military weapons platform - should not be owned by civilians.
www.khakicorpsimports.com

Okay for civilians to own.
www.hamiltonsclassicautos.com
 
2013-01-16 02:40:20 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: xxcorydxx: sandy hook was a little fishy,

What do you mean?


I'm not big on conspiracy theories, but the way that all the parents spoke when interviewed was really off- go back and watch some of the interviews, the way that some of the newscasts don't quite line up, that guy that had the 6 kids in his house even though he lived on the other side of the firehouse and he's in the actors guild. there were 600 kids in the school and you don't see any of them from the aerial news shots.

the fundraiser site was started before it even happened, too.
 
2013-01-16 02:41:33 PM  

HeadLever: xxcorydxx: /sandy hook was a little fishy, but i have no problem with taking away some of the gun nuts toys.

What other enumerated rights do you want to see arbitrarily and capriciously removed?

With useful sheep like you, it is no wonder totalitarianism is slowly but steadily replacing freedom and liberty.


pretty sure you're free to own as many muskets as you'd like, just as the founding fathers intended.
 
2013-01-16 03:20:43 PM  

xxcorydxx: HeadLever: xxcorydxx: /sandy hook was a little fishy, but i have no problem with taking away some of the gun nuts toys.

What other enumerated rights do you want to see arbitrarily and capriciously removed?

With useful sheep like you, it is no wonder totalitarianism is slowly but steadily replacing freedom and liberty.

pretty sure you're free to own as many muskets as you'd like, just as the founding fathers intended.


Yeah, I still can't find the word 'muskets' in the 2nd Amendment. Of course, i can't find the word 'internet' or 'television' in the 1st Amendment.

Can you help me out and show me where they are?
 
2013-01-16 03:48:39 PM  

sugar_fetus: xxcorydxx: HeadLever: xxcorydxx: /sandy hook was a little fishy, but i have no problem with taking away some of the gun nuts toys.

What other enumerated rights do you want to see arbitrarily and capriciously removed?

With useful sheep like you, it is no wonder totalitarianism is slowly but steadily replacing freedom and liberty.

pretty sure you're free to own as many muskets as you'd like, just as the founding fathers intended.

Yeah, I still can't find the word 'muskets' in the 2nd Amendment. Of course, i can't find the word 'internet' or 'television' in the 1st Amendment.

Can you help me out and show me where they are?


are you really that stupid or do you think that George Washington intended for everyone to have their own personal nuclear arsenal? also, did you miss the words "regulated" and "militia" ?

ps, if you answer that no, please tell me what YOU think is an acceptable weapon vs an unacceptable weapon.
 
2013-01-16 04:13:10 PM  

xxcorydxx: are you really that stupid


Nice - right to the personal insults. That's usually shows that you have no actual response. Thats the way to talk to people - insult them.

or do you think that George Washington intended for everyone to have their own personal nuclear arsenal?

Strawman. I never mentioned nuclear weapons.

also, did you miss the words "regulated" and "militia" ?

Did you miss the word 'the right of the people'? What does that mean?

ps, if you answer that no, please tell me what YOU think is an acceptable weapon vs an unacceptable weapon.

Unnecessary. I am not the one advocating the infringement of your constitutionally-protected rights.

Overall, I'll give you a 2/10 for your message. The personal insult was nice, but not effective. next time, try to work in a penis reference. That will increase your grade.
 
2013-01-16 04:29:05 PM  

sugar_fetus: xxcorydxx: are you really that stupid

Nice - right to the personal insults. That's usually shows that you have no actual response. Thats the way to talk to people - insult them.

or do you think that George Washington intended for everyone to have their own personal nuclear arsenal?

Strawman. I never mentioned nuclear weapons.

also, did you miss the words "regulated" and "militia" ?

Did you miss the word 'the right of the people'? What does that mean?

ps, if you answer that no, please tell me what YOU think is an acceptable weapon vs an unacceptable weapon.

Unnecessary. I am not the one advocating the infringement of your constitutionally-protected rights.

Overall, I'll give you a 2/10 for your message. The personal insult was nice, but not effective. next time, try to work in a penis reference. That will increase your grade.


You conservatives are so cute when you don't get your way
 
2013-01-16 04:34:22 PM  

xxcorydxx: sugar_fetus: xxcorydxx: are you really that stupid

Nice - right to the personal insults. That's usually shows that you have no actual response. Thats the way to talk to people - insult them.

or do you think that George Washington intended for everyone to have their own personal nuclear arsenal?

Strawman. I never mentioned nuclear weapons.

also, did you miss the words "regulated" and "militia" ?

Did you miss the word 'the right of the people'? What does that mean?

ps, if you answer that no, please tell me what YOU think is an acceptable weapon vs an unacceptable weapon.

Unnecessary. I am not the one advocating the infringement of your constitutionally-protected rights.

Overall, I'll give you a 2/10 for your message. The personal insult was nice, but not effective. next time, try to work in a penis reference. That will increase your grade.

You conservatives are so cute when you don't get your way


Me? A conservative? Wrong-o, buddy. That just looses you another point.

Also, I noticed that you didn't actually address anything I said, you merely went directly for the personal insult again. You really need to get better materials. More thought, less derp.

New grade: 1/10. Try harder, child, or you'll just have to repeat this grade.
 
2013-01-16 04:42:49 PM  

xxcorydxx: sugar_fetus: xxcorydxx: HeadLever: xxcorydxx: /sandy hook was a little fishy, but i have no problem with taking away some of the gun nuts toys.

What other enumerated rights do you want to see arbitrarily and capriciously removed?

With useful sheep like you, it is no wonder totalitarianism is slowly but steadily replacing freedom and liberty.

pretty sure you're free to own as many muskets as you'd like, just as the founding fathers intended.

Yeah, I still can't find the word 'muskets' in the 2nd Amendment. Of course, i can't find the word 'internet' or 'television' in the 1st Amendment.

Can you help me out and show me where they are?

are you really that stupid or do you think that George Washington intended for everyone to have their own personal nuclear arsenal? also, did you miss the words "regulated" and "militia" ?

ps, if you answer that no, please tell me what YOU think is an acceptable weapon vs an unacceptable weapon.


Do you think George Washington wanted the government to fear the people?  Then wouldn't the logical extension be to allow a weapons platform that puts the people on par with at least the local police force?
 
2013-01-16 04:45:10 PM  
It "looses" me a point? Are you sure you aren't a teabagger?

There weren't semiautomatic weapons with high capacity clips, just the same as there weren't nuclear weapons when the bill of rights was written. "well regulated" was supposed to cover that whole part.

If you don't like what the laws are here, move somewhere else or work to change the laws and quit crying like a little girl that had her barbie taken away.
 
2013-01-16 04:51:57 PM  

xxcorydxx: It "looses" me a point? Are you sure you aren't a teabagger?

There weren't semiautomatic weapons with high capacity clips, just the same as there weren't nuclear weapons when the bill of rights was written. "well regulated" was supposed to cover that whole part.

If you don't like what the laws are here, move somewhere else or work to change the laws and quit crying like a little girl that had her barbie taken away.


Well regulated has absolutely nothing to do with the arms, and everything to do with the militia.  You're an idiot.  Are you honestly saying that the founding fathers thought hmm..the people should have a flint lock rifle, but not laser beams?
 
2013-01-16 04:52:01 PM  

xxcorydxx: pretty sure you're free to own as many muskets as you'd like, just as the founding fathers intended.


Arms != muskets. Nice try though.
 
2013-01-16 04:54:28 PM  

xxcorydxx: "well regulated" was supposed to cover that whole part.


The SCotUS disagrees. What part of 'the prefatory clause does not limit or bind, in any way, the operative clause' don't you get?

If you don't like what the laws are here, move somewhere else or work to change the laws and quit crying like a little girl that had her barbie taken away.
 
2013-01-16 04:55:20 PM  

xxcorydxx: It "looses" me a point? Are you sure you aren't a teabagger?


Again with the insults. Tsk, tsk.

There weren't semiautomatic weapons with high capacity clips, just the same as there weren't nuclear weapons when the bill of rights was written. "well regulated" was supposed to cover that whole part.

There wasn't television or an internet, either. Why did they write "right of the people" if they meant "right of the States" or "right of the militiaman"? These were educated men. They knew how to write.

If you don't like what the laws are here, move somewhere else or work to change the laws and quit crying like a little girl that had her barbie taken away.

The laws say I can own a semi-automatic AR-15 style rifle with standard-sized magazines. That is what the law says right now.

If you don't like it - why don't *you* move instead? Follow your own advice.

Or, at least stop insulting people who disagree with you.

Yeah, another point lost. 0/10.
 
2013-01-16 04:57:04 PM  

xxcorydxx: are you really that stupid or do you think that George Washington intended for everyone to have their own personal nuclear arsenal?


There is a legal distinction between descriminant and indescrininant weapons. You may want to look into it.
 
2013-01-16 05:02:28 PM  
Arms were muskets...

Given that police now have decommissioned tanks and things of that nature (which conservatives love, because they use them to put black drug users in jail) are you suggesting that we should all have anti tank missiles? That would be interesting.
 
2013-01-16 05:21:40 PM  

xxcorydxx: Arms were muskets...


Muskets were and are only a subset of arms. Kind of like saying free speech is ink printed news.
 
2013-01-16 05:23:31 PM  

HeadLever: are you suggesting that we should all have anti tank missiles?


See my point on descriminant vs indescriminant weapons and get back to me on this..
 
2013-01-16 05:26:00 PM  
Linky fail. Above post should have been adressed to xxcorydxx
 
2013-01-16 06:21:52 PM  

xxcorydxx:
1) I'm not big on conspiracy theories,

2) but the way that all the parents spoke when interviewed was really off- go back and watch some of the interviews, the way that some of the newscasts don't quite line up, that guy that had the 6 kids in his house even though he lived on the other side of the firehouse and he's in the actors guild. there were 600 kids in the school and you don't see any of them from the aerial news shots.

the fundraiser site was started before it even happened, too.


Everything in part 2 contradicts part 1.

Also, CITE for the fundraiser starting BEFORE the shooting?
 
2013-01-16 09:45:36 PM  

HeadLever: xxcorydxx: are you really that stupid or do you think that George Washington intended for everyone to have their own personal nuclear arsenal?

There is a legal distinction between descriminant and indescrininant weapons. You may want to look into it.


in the bill of rights? with a list? show me.
 
2013-01-16 10:53:09 PM  

xxcorydxx: in the bill of rights?


Not every law or legal definition is detailed in the Bill of Rights. You are having a hard time with this aren't you?
 
2013-01-16 11:10:12 PM  

HeadLever: xxcorydxx: in the bill of rights?

Not every law or legal definition is detailed in the Bill of Rights. You are having a hard time with this aren't you?


apparently you are, since you're losing. maybe replace your assault weapon with a penis pump.
 
2013-01-17 12:13:53 PM  

xxcorydxx: HeadLever: xxcorydxx: in the bill of rights?

Not every law or legal definition is detailed in the Bill of Rights. You are having a hard time with this aren't you?

apparently you are, since you're losing. maybe replace your assault weapon with a penis pump.


Back to ad hominem attacks in lieu of actual arguments, I see.

/10 year old typing detected
 
2013-01-17 03:05:43 PM  

sugar_fetus: willfullyobscure: There's absolutely nothing wrong with an assault weapon ban. These weapons platforms are totally inappropriate for civilian society based simply on their appearance and their features.

Military weapons platform - should not be owned by civilians.
[www.khakicorpsimports.com image 600x450]

Okay for civilians to own.
[www.hamiltonsclassicautos.com image 432x324]


That is a borderline case, that looks to me like a range truck or a hunting truck painted by a hick. However, if it was a Jeep or a Hummer in camo and fitted with battlefield kit, than I would say yes, it is ABSOLUTELY NOT OKAY for a civilian to drive it around in everyday use. If I see a vehicle like that ( I live two blocks afrom a large National Guard base fyi) I assume the driver is a member of the military engaged in military business and under certain circumstances, it would scare the crap out of me to see it in the wrong place.

If i brought my kids to the mall and there were a bunch of transports and jeeps parked there, I would assume some bad shiat was going down, and I would flee. If I see a civilian driving one, or carrying weapons and gear that mimic those seen in the theater of war, I am scared of that person, because I assume he is a farking lunatic that actually likes the prospect of a battlefield scenario, and he wants that to happen.

These weapons are not appropriate for civilians and they should be removed from the populace unless good reason and proper safeguards are enacted. That is a moral judgment i am making and you can like it or lump it.

You should have your damned dangerous toys taken away and you should treat firearms and the use of them with more respect.
 
2013-01-17 03:13:44 PM  

willfullyobscure:
You should have your damned dangerous toys taken away and you should treat firearms and the use of them with more respect.


It's a farking truck. And yes, it is a military surplus CUCV. And no, some hick did not paint it.
It's a military weapon. The difference between the two is nothing but the paint job.

Still, its good to see that you believe its okay to ban things due to cosmetic differences that scares you

Don't like it? Don't own one. It's still legal to own.

Oh, and so are these:

Tanks for sale
 
2013-01-17 03:59:29 PM  

sugar_fetus: willfullyobscure:
You should have your damned dangerous toys taken away and you should treat firearms and the use of them with more respect.

It's a farking truck. And yes, it is a military surplus CUCV. And no, some hick did not paint it.
It's a military weapon. The difference between the two is nothing but the paint job.

Still, its good to see that you believe its okay to ban things due to cosmetic differences that scares you

Don't like it? Don't own one. It's still legal to own.

Oh, and so are these:

Tanks for sale


A truck is not a weapon, so you lose that point.

I reiterate, that's a borderline case and it IS a matter of appearances. That truck APPEARS TO BE a hickmobile, not a farking Bradley FV. The appearance of weapons and tools designed for the battlefield DO NOT BELONG in civilian hands.

This is not a magical out of nowhere argument I making. We don't let regular people dress like or drive around in cop cars and fire trucks or ambulances just cause they like the look of it either. You get arrested for that shiat, for good reason.

As a society, we set very clear limits on what is okay to look like and how act, and these preclude running around with toy battlefield replica weapons and accessories. I suppose we can make some exception for re-enactors, since those dudes appear to actually understand the concept of a battlefield scenario versus going about your normal life and they actively admit they're playing dress up.

This isn't Israel or Mexico some other state under immediate duress. You're not a soldier or a civilian militiaman. I see National Guards on parade with their weapons every freakin' weekend and I have no problem with them strapping up ARs.You're a puke with vile, hateful blood fantasies you get a hard on pretending you're a bad ass. And you get no respect from actual grown ups because of it. You don't need those weapons and you shouldn't have them. There is literally no justification for them except to play pretend, or maybe shoot a hell of a lot of people in a very short amount of time. And wild hog hunting, I guess you can have that one, too.
 
2013-01-17 04:05:20 PM  

willfullyobscure:
A truck is not a weapon, so you lose that point.


Yet, you think its scary and dangerous.

Also, it is not a 'hickmobile'. It's a military surplus truck.

http://www.khakicorpsimports.com/in-cucv.htm

so, you loose that point.


You're a puke with vile, hateful blood fantasies you get a hard on pretending you're a bad ass. And you get no respect from actual grown ups because of it. You don't need those weapons and you shouldn't have them


Well, thank you for popping in and telling everyone how to life their lives.

Are you incapable of having a discussion without resorting to insulting those you disagree with?

Maybe you need to get professional help.
 
2013-01-17 10:55:04 PM  

sugar_fetus: willfullyobscure:
A truck is not a weapon, so you lose that point.


Yet, you think its scary and dangerous.

Also, it is not a 'hickmobile'. It's a military surplus truck.

http://www.khakicorpsimports.com/in-cucv.htm

so, you loose that point.


You're a puke with vile, hateful blood fantasies you get a hard on pretending you're a bad ass. And you get no respect from actual grown ups because of it. You don't need those weapons and you shouldn't have them

Well, thank you for popping in and telling everyone how to life their lives.

Are you incapable of having a discussion without resorting to insulting those you disagree with?

Maybe you need to get professional help.


sugar_fetus: willfullyobscure:
A truck is not a weapon, so you lose that point.


Yet, you think its scary and dangerous.

Also, it is not a 'hickmobile'. It's a military surplus truck.

http://www.khakicorpsimports.com/in-cucv.htm

so, you loose that point.


You're a puke with vile, hateful blood fantasies you get a hard on pretending you're a bad ass. And you get no respect from actual grown ups because of it. You don't need those weapons and you shouldn't have them

Well, thank you for popping in and telling everyone how to life their lives.

Are you incapable of having a discussion without resorting to insulting those you disagree with?

Maybe you need to get professional help.


It's because I am a troll.
 
2013-01-17 11:09:05 PM  

willfullyobscure: It's because I am a troll.


Of that, I have had no doubt.
 
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