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(KHOU Houston)   Study finds unsafe mercury levels in 84 percent of all fish -- including Abe Vigoda   (khou.com) divider line 93
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2013-01-15 01:21:28 PM  
cdn2-b.examiner.com
/Also had unsafe Mercury levels
 
2013-01-15 01:27:44 PM  

Ennuipoet: /Also had unsafe Mercury levels


Lols.
 
2013-01-15 01:46:21 PM  
I blame Bernice.
 
2013-01-15 01:53:11 PM  
Fun fact: a can of tuna can serve as a handy thermometer
 
2013-01-15 01:59:25 PM  
Eat more Kale.
 
2013-01-15 02:21:26 PM  
ww4.hdnux.com

Last confirmed Vigoda siting-- June 8, 2011-- Abe Vigoda showed up for Meredity Vieira's departure from The Today Show.
 
2013-01-15 02:23:04 PM  
Why do we ignore the warning signs? Does the permafrost have to melt completely?

Why do we ignore the warning signs? How do you think he got this way?

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-15 02:34:31 PM  
Why isn't the FDA on all this?
 
2013-01-15 02:44:57 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Why isn't the FDA on all this?


because it is too hard, and there are wingnuts on both sides of the aisle that have hamstrung the FDA.
 
2013-01-15 02:53:31 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Why isn't the FDA on all this?


It's the FOOD and Drug Administration, not the FISH and Drug Administration

/duh
 
2013-01-15 02:54:05 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Why isn't the FDA on all this?


Knew an FDA inspector back during the last years of Clinton and the first year's of Bush.  The horror stories I heard from her about cutbacks, and actually getting in trouble for reporting problems.  She did inspections at Chicken factories.
 
2013-01-15 02:55:03 PM  

ShawnDoc: Darth_Lukecash: Why isn't the FDA on all this?

Knew an FDA inspector back during the last years of Clinton and the first year's of Bush.  The horror stories I heard from her about cutbacks, and actually getting in trouble for reporting problems.  She did inspections at Chicken factories.


Just to correct myself, it was probably the USDA she worked for, not the FDA.
 
2013-01-15 03:08:18 PM  
Obviously we need to eliminate the EPA.
 
2013-01-15 03:08:34 PM  

ShawnDoc: it was probably the USDA she worked for


Is that, like, the opposite of USADA?

/livestrong!
 
2013-01-15 03:08:43 PM  
A Barney Miller reference? Careful subby, that's an antique.
 
2013-01-15 03:09:29 PM  
84 percent of all fish

But seriously, why did they put the contaminated fish back?
 
2013-01-15 03:10:54 PM  
It's bad enough that we kill them and eat them but do we really need to poison them first?
 
2013-01-15 03:11:15 PM  

Tickle Mittens: A Barney Miller reference? Careful subby, that's an antique.


Now that bassline will be in my head all day

/and that's ok by me
//Jack Soo
 
2013-01-15 03:11:17 PM  
Level at which mercury becomes "unsafe" according to the Federal government: 5 parts per million, set as 1/3 of what they knew from some very large studies to be a safe level (about 15 ppm before any effects are even detected).

Level of mercury found in the fish in the study: between about 0.4 and 1.4 parts per million - from about 1/12 to about 1/3 of actual recommended maximum levels.

Level at which the study arbitrarily sets "unsafe": 0.22 parts per million.

How to get "unsafe" mercury levels in fish: redefine the actual unsafe levels as about 1/20 of what they actually are. From their charts, it looks like they took the lowest level they could detect in any actual fish and divided it by 2.
 
2013-01-15 03:11:43 PM  
I would like to see the seafood caught in Pacific and Alaskan waters tested for radioactivity.

/that's hot
 
2013-01-15 03:16:58 PM  
84% of all fish

Buh-but industry. Our lives of luxury. Our first-world problems.
 
2013-01-15 03:18:15 PM  
Reducing mercury pollution is on the agenda of the United Nations conference this week in Geneva

That's all you needed to know to be very suspicious of the whole thing.

Wait wait, let me guess... We'll do the usual thing where the United States spends a ton of money to abide by the treaty, some countries in Europe and Asia spend a ton of money to abide by the treaty, everyone else makes no effort what so ever and simply profits.
 
2013-01-15 03:25:08 PM  
Teach a man about beavers and we eat contaminated fish.
 
2013-01-15 03:25:43 PM  
:whistles:

phishthoughts.com
 
2013-01-15 03:26:24 PM  
that aint "fresh ocean air" you're huffing...

energized mercury, lol
 
2013-01-15 03:29:56 PM  
Can't win.. Can't eat anything these days without some over eager reporter touting how it's going to KILL US ALL!

It's OK though as I get all my fish from the Gulf so I'm not getting much mercury .. just sweet Texas crude.
 
2013-01-15 03:30:34 PM  

MyNameIsMofuga: It's bad enough that we kill them and eat them but do we really need to poison them first?


THIS!

What has my kind ever done to your people?
 
2013-01-15 03:33:04 PM  

Evil Mackerel: MyNameIsMofuga: It's bad enough that we kill them and eat them but do we really need to poison them first?

THIS!

What has my kind ever done to your people?


You have consistently stood in the way of progress.
 
2013-01-15 03:35:57 PM  

Evil Mackerel: MyNameIsMofuga: It's bad enough that we kill them and eat them but do we really need to poison them first?

THIS!

What has my kind ever done to your people?


1. You're evil
2. You have a face like a mackerel

Shall we go on?
 
2013-01-15 03:36:01 PM  
Well, I guess we won't be seeing a Marillion reunion any time soon.
 
2013-01-15 03:36:36 PM  

Evil Mackerel: MyNameIsMofuga: It's bad enough that we kill them and eat them but do we really need to poison them first?

THIS!

What has my kind ever done to your people?


In our defense you are evil.
 
2013-01-15 03:36:59 PM  

cirby: Level at which mercury becomes "unsafe" according to the Federal government: 5 parts per million, set as 1/3 of what they knew from some very large studies to be a safe level (about 15 ppm before any effects are even detected).


This PDF describes the EPA's calculations of how often it's safe to eat fish based on its mercury level. At 0.22 ppm it's considered safe to have 4 meals per month of that fish. Unrestricted consumption (more than 16 meals per month) requires less than 0.029 ppm.

Maybe your "5 ppm" is referring to accumulated levels in the human body, rather than to safe levels in food?
 
2013-01-15 03:40:23 PM  

whidbey: 84% of all fish

Buh-but industry. Our lives of luxury. Our first-world problems.


Well, technically it's a problem of any culture that relies heavily on a fish diet. Not just first world people.

/Want to see what mercury does? Read up on the Minamata disaster.
//Did a report on that back in college for a Toxic Tragedies course
 
2013-01-15 03:43:41 PM  
atlanticseafoodmarket.com

Mmmmmmm......meeeerrrrcuuurrryyyyy
 
2013-01-15 03:47:32 PM  

mgshamster: whidbey: 84% of all fish

Buh-but industry. Our lives of luxury. Our first-world problems.

Well, technically it's a problem of any culture that relies heavily on a fish diet. Not just first world people.


Um, technically it's a problem that we made ourselves, recently, and we could have avoided it entirely. Decades ago.

/Want to see what mercury does? Read up on the Minamata disaster.
//Did a report on that back in college for a Toxic Tragedies course


Yeah, it's bad stuff. Even in the smallest of amounts.

I'd say that between mercury and plastic, we have some good odds that we could be f*cked as a species.
 
2013-01-15 03:49:59 PM  

cirby: Level at which mercury becomes "unsafe" according to the Federal government: 5 parts per million, set as 1/3 of what they knew from some very large studies to be a safe level (about 15 ppm before any effects are even detected).


1/3? That's kind of a high bar to set from the NOAEL. They must have had a lot of good, solid research. Usually it's set between 10 - 3000 times below the NOAEL.
 
2013-01-15 03:51:03 PM  

mgshamster: Read up on the Minamata disaster.


Oh fark. Now you've put a Dead Kennedys earworm in my branes.
 
2013-01-15 03:52:00 PM  

whidbey: mgshamster: whidbey: 84% of all fish

Buh-but industry. Our lives of luxury. Our first-world problems.

Well, technically it's a problem of any culture that relies heavily on a fish diet. Not just first world people.

Um, technically it's a problem that we made ourselves, recently, and we could have avoided it entirely. Decades ago.

/Want to see what mercury does? Read up on the Minamata disaster.
//Did a report on that back in college for a Toxic Tragedies course

Yeah, it's bad stuff. Even in the smallest of amounts.

I'd say that between mercury and plastic, we have some good odds that we could be f*cked as a species.


What's worse is that levels that are normally perfectly fine for an adult (or even a child) can be damaging to a fetus. I'm very happy that my pregnant wife has developed a food aversion to seafood right now.
 
2013-01-15 03:54:40 PM  
FTFA: A new study from the Biodiversity Research Institute in Maine

/looks them up...

"Small, nonprofit group dedicated to progressive environmental research and education. "

*facepalm*

Real science isn't progressive or conservative, it's just science.
 
2013-01-15 03:54:50 PM  

whidbey: mgshamster: Read up on the Minamata disaster.

Oh fark. Now you've put a Dead Kennedys earworm in my branes.


Heh. Sorry.

I actually haven't heard that song before. Just looked it up. They talk a lot about kepone and Minamata, but I'm not sure what the connection is. The only kepone disaster that I'm aware of happened in Virginia. And Minamata is in Japan.
 
2013-01-15 03:56:40 PM  
Hurray for industry not having to pay for the externalities caused by their activities.
teaminland.com
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2013-01-15 03:57:43 PM  
And, just for good measure:
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2013-01-15 03:58:02 PM  
Ivo Shandor:
This PDF describes the EPA's calculations of how often it's safe to eat fish based on its mercury level. At 0.22 ppm it's considered safe to have 4 meals per month of that fish. Unrestricted consumption (more than 16 meals per month) requires less than 0.029 ppm.

Not mercury - methylmercury.

"US EPA, 2000, Table 4-3 (see attachment) presents risk-based fish consumption limits which relate the number of
fish meals that can be eaten per month to fish tissue concentrations of methylmercury."

They confuse things a bit by mixing mercury and methylmercury concentrations - but methylmercury is a much, much more toxic substance (and found in much lower concentrations in fish).
 
2013-01-15 04:01:00 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Darth_Lukecash: Why isn't the FDA on all this?

It's the FOOD and Drug Administration, not the FISH and Drug Administration

/duh


And because fish are FRIENDS, not FOOD
 
2013-01-15 04:02:23 PM  

mgshamster: They talk a lot about kepone and Minamata, but I'm not sure what the connection is.


I think they were trying to make a point about industry poisoning their workers and covering it up.
 
2013-01-15 04:04:10 PM  
Someone needs to make a fish calculator that will tell you how many of which type of fish you can have per month based on current mercury levels. fishcalculator.com is where something like that could be found..

/dreamer
 
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2013-01-15 04:07:54 PM  

Petit_Merdeux: ShawnDoc: it was probably the USDA she worked for

Is that, like, the opposite of USADA?

/livestrong!


I prefer the USDVDA
 
2013-01-15 04:08:43 PM  
www.thatsnerdalicious.com

It's still safe if smoked.
 
2013-01-15 04:12:52 PM  
I got a girl in the castle and one in the pagoda.
 
2013-01-15 04:15:52 PM  

Beerguy: [atlanticseafoodmarket.com image 500x375]

Mmmmmmm......meeeerrrrcuuurrryyyyy


YESSSS!!! No amount of mercury will keep me from my sashimi!
 
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