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(Pro Football Talk)   The Kansas City Chiefs will be sticking with the 3-4 defense, as in giving up 3-4 touchdowns a game   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com ) divider line
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2013-01-15 01:31:48 PM  
As a resident KC homer, I can't disagree with this.

/Would love to see the Glenn Dorsey of today in the position he was freaking drafted for
 
2013-01-15 01:41:48 PM  
I am so sorry KC. Reid is way overrated, and has been worse since losing a son. If ever a coach needed some time away from the game to get his head on straight, it's Reid. His denial is football, and he eats his pain.
 
2013-01-15 01:54:55 PM  
If you already have the 3-4 installed, coaching staff used to running the 3-4, and the personnel to run the 3-4, then there's no reason to just suddenly decide you want to run the 4-3 just because the Walrus is in town.

Although I would like to see some teams run out of some of the non-traditional sets as their base just for the variety. Imagine if the Patriots just trotted out in a 1-5-5 and stayed in it.
 
2013-01-15 02:01:36 PM  

Treygreen13: If you already have the 3-4 installed, coaching staff used to running the 3-4, and the personnel to run the 3-4, then there's no reason to just suddenly decide you want to run the 4-3 just because the Walrus is in town.

Although I would like to see some teams run out of some of the non-traditional sets as their base just for the variety. Imagine if the Patriots just trotted out in a 1-5-5 and stayed in it.


Ray Rice would go for 275 yards rushing this weekend I'd imagine. Bert would have a pretty standard game: 10-22 100ish yards 0 TD and 2 INT.

/also would like to see something besides 3-4 and 4-3 all the time.
 
2013-01-15 02:05:24 PM  
4-2-5. Esp against pass happy offensives
 
2013-01-15 02:09:52 PM  
So...how does Jarvis Jones fit into all of this?
 
2013-01-15 02:10:24 PM  
Translation: See you later, Glenn Dorsey, it's been fun.
 
2013-01-15 02:15:46 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: 4-2-5. Esp against pass happy offensives


Big men are too slow and safeties are too little. Seems like LBs are the most versatile, hence the predominant switch to 3-4. But I'm a GB fan and my relative depravation to what constitutes as good defense probably bleeds through in this post.
 
2013-01-15 02:21:36 PM  
It's not like Reid wants to get past a 3-4 or a 4-3 set up. In Philly, he hasn't had a functioning secondary for a couple of years.
 
2013-01-15 02:23:57 PM  
Reid will use his last timeout trying to get the right number of linemen on the field...and then still fark it up.
 
2013-01-15 02:27:15 PM  
I'm more of a 0-7 fan myself. Pure bend but don't break defense.
 
2013-01-15 02:27:20 PM  
Gonna have trouble filling that hole at linebacker.
 
2013-01-15 03:54:57 PM  

flynn80: Gonna have trouble filling that hole at linebacker.


I'm sure they'll give it a shot.
 
2013-01-15 04:19:45 PM  
As long as they keep the flat pass for no yardage it will the Chiefs I know and love and no longer watch.
 
2013-01-15 04:20:38 PM  

Ponzholio: flynn80: Gonna have trouble filling that hole at linebacker.

I'm sure they'll give it a shot.


Brit Reid will inject some new life into them.
 
2013-01-15 05:12:20 PM  
They aren't going with a Wide 9? I hear it's all the rage these days.

/Rage being the operative word there.
 
2013-01-15 06:52:53 PM  
I think you mean 3-4 touchdown win margin by the opposing team. And this is from a Kansas City Chiefs fan.
 
2013-01-15 07:17:26 PM  
Welcome, Star Lotulelei.
 
2013-01-16 12:02:52 AM  
The 3-4 is great and all, but there aren't 32 steroid infused 380lb land yachts willing or capable of playing NT in the NFL.

I can't say I follow KC, so somehow I doubt they fall into the category of having a stud NT, but I could be wrong.
 
2013-01-16 12:33:10 AM  

poughdrew: The 3-4 is great and all, but there aren't 32 steroid infused 380lb land yachts willing or capable of playing NT in the NFL.

I can't say I follow KC, so somehow I doubt they fall into the category of having a stud NT, but I could be wrong.


Well, that was the issue with Scott Pioli.  He wanted a 3-4 but wouldn't draft a top NT even when they are available.  This year, there's one available, so we'll see if they take him.
 
2013-01-16 02:23:11 AM  
as in giving up 3-4 touchdowns a game

Seems a little too optimistic to me.
 
2013-01-16 08:14:33 AM  

thecpt: Big men are too slow and safeties are too little. Seems like LBs are the most versatile, hence the predominant switch to 3-4.


The switch to 3-4 has less to do with the linebackers' versatility and more to do with their abundance. Second, you've probably been watching too much 3-4 because you don't need fast linemen in that formation. The 3-4 only needs linemen to take on blocks, so being slow is OK -- they're not expected to chase the ball. Oak trees and linebackers are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

The 4-3 gets most of its pass rush from the DEs but there aren't enough quality DEs to go around for every team to use it. If you happen to have two DEs that are an inhuman combination of size and speed, though, putting them in a 3-4 to two-gap all the time is a waste of talent.

Treygreen13: Imagine if the Patriots just trotted out in a 1-5-5 and stayed in it.


They would lose every game.

Tiberius Gracchus: /also would like to see something besides 3-4 and 4-3 all the time.


As a base formation it's stupid to do anything else. You'll see formations like 6-1-4 , 4-2-5 or 3-3-5 in certain situations, though.
 
2013-01-16 08:57:29 AM  
It's easy to give up 3-4 touchdowns a game when your offense either turns the ball over or goes three-and-out on every possession. KC's defense was fine this year, they were just on the field way too much and had to defend bad field positions.

poughdrew: I can't say I follow KC, so somehow I doubt they fall into the category of having a stud NT, but I could be wrong.


Well, that was their intent when they drafted Poe. He didn't play NT in college because Memphis didn't usually play that style of defense, but he supposedly had all the makings of a good one. He showed some good signs this year, so we'll see if he progresses. They need a good DE to replace Dorsey much more than they need a NT.
 
2013-01-16 09:02:11 AM  

dragonchild: The 4-3 gets most of its pass rush from the DEs but there aren't enough quality DEs to go around for every team to use it. If you happen to have two DEs that are an inhuman combination of size and speed, though, putting them in a 3-4 to two-gap all the time is a waste of talent.


Well, in KC's case they converted Tamba Hali from DE to OLB, and that worked out pretty well. But not every DE can do that, and when Hali was drafted, the knock on him was that he was too undersized to play DE (he pretty much debunked that theory) so the move to LB was probably easier for him than most. KC also lucked out that Justin Houston played 3-4 OLB at Georgia and had his draft stock fall.
 
2013-01-16 10:38:56 AM  

flynn80: Ponzholio: flynn80: Gonna have trouble filling that hole at linebacker.

I'm sure they'll give it a shot.

Brit Reid will inject some new life into them.


ouch
 
2013-01-16 01:22:27 PM  

dragonchild: They would lose every game.


Wait a minute. Are you telling me that my joke premise wouldn't actually work in the NFL?
I'm crushed.
 
2013-01-16 01:34:32 PM  

Treygreen13: Wait a minute. Are you telling me that my joke premise wouldn't actually work in the NFL? I'm crushed.


It was too subtle. I was the exclamation point. You're welcome.
 
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