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(YouTube)   2,400-grain bullet + 2,100 feet per second + 240 grains of powder + 25,400 foot-pounds of muzzle energy + 277 foot-pounds of recoil = the biggest damn centerfire rifle ever built   (youtube.com) divider line 83
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2013-01-15 12:16:06 PM

indarwinsshadow: Wouldn't it just be easier to find a way to up the velocity of a smaller round, instead of screwing around with something the size of a soup can? I'm sorry, but the rifle in the video is impractical.


There's a balance to accuracy and ballistics. A light fast bullet can sometimes get pushed around or be so light it looses the velocity quickly. On the other hand a heavy slow bullet tends to get fired in a large arc but often maintains it's energy over a long distance.

Often it would be good to have a heavy bullet going very fast, but people tend to not be able to cope with the force of firing.

It isn't like that's a practicile gun regardless. I'd imagine there's much more accurate rifles out there. If its built for some specific shooting even I guess that makes sense, but still is as silly as most anything built for a single purpose.
 
2013-01-15 12:42:29 PM

I_C_Weener: BEER_ME_in_CT: NOT an assault rifle LOL.

/only used for hunting... Trolls

You know who could have used one of these?  Captain Ahab.


Boromir. Harry Potter. There's gotta be more.
 
2013-01-15 12:48:18 PM

NBSV: indarwinsshadow: Wouldn't it just be easier to find a way to up the velocity of a smaller round, instead of screwing around with something the size of a soup can? I'm sorry, but the rifle in the video is impractical.

There's a balance to accuracy and ballistics. A light fast bullet can sometimes get pushed around or be so light it looses the velocity quickly. On the other hand a heavy slow bullet tends to get fired in a large arc but often maintains it's energy over a long distance.

Often it would be good to have a heavy bullet going very fast, but people tend to not be able to cope with the force of firing.

It isn't like that's a practicile gun regardless. I'd imagine there's much more accurate rifles out there. If its built for some specific shooting even I guess that makes sense, but still is as silly as most anything built for a single purpose.


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2013-01-15 12:52:21 PM

Ramsay: you have pee hands: This is excellent for self defense against Wooly Mammoths and Tyrannosaurs. That's three to four times as heavy as a .50cal round. What the hell is it for?

For shiats and giggles that what because fark you why not. Its not like everyone would be buying $8k rifle that uses 40$ ammo... yes 40$ per one shot.



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2013-01-15 12:54:00 PM

Pizzafark: Ramsay: you have pee hands: This is excellent for self defense against Wooly Mammoths and Tyrannosaurs. That's three to four times as heavy as a .50cal round. What the hell is it for?

For shiats and giggles that what because fark you why not. Its not like everyone would be buying $8k rifle that uses 40$ ammo... yes 40$ per one shot.


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/ogblig


/oblig

//FTFY
 
2013-01-15 01:09:51 PM

NBSV: indarwinsshadow: Wouldn't it just be easier to find a way to up the velocity of a smaller round, instead of screwing around with something the size of a soup can? I'm sorry, but the rifle in the video is impractical.

There's a balance to accuracy and ballistics. A light fast bullet can sometimes get pushed around or be so light it looses the velocity quickly. On the other hand a heavy slow bullet tends to get fired in a large arc but often maintains it's energy over a long distance.

Often it would be good to have a heavy bullet going very fast, but people tend to not be able to cope with the force of firing.

It isn't like that's a practicile gun regardless. I'd imagine there's much more accurate rifles out there. If its built for some specific shooting even I guess that makes sense, but still is as silly as most anything built for a single purpose.


From a practical point of view though, 5.56 is better than 7.62 isn't it? One of the reason the lighter round was chosen by the U.S. military and NATO over the heavier round was load out, distance and accuracy wasn't it?
 
2013-01-15 01:25:35 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Biggest? Really? My photos from the range are back at home, but they look kind of like this

[www.steelbeasts.com image 640x436]

105mm rifle. ~1500 m/s (~ 5000 ft/s) muzzle velocity with sabot rounds. Don't know the exact projectile weight, but lifting the old M392A1 round on my desk it's on the order of 15 pounds. I suppose you could argue centerfire, but the firing pin does contact the round in the center
And yes, firing one is exactly as awesome as you might think.


M60?
 
2013-01-15 01:29:53 PM

dualplains: Arkanaut: In before someone who needs it for self-defense.

Nah, nah, it's fer duck huntin


rabbit huntin!
 
2013-01-15 01:32:46 PM

indarwinsshadow: NBSV: indarwinsshadow: Wouldn't it just be easier to find a way to up the velocity of a smaller round, instead of screwing around with something the size of a soup can? I'm sorry, but the rifle in the video is impractical.

There's a balance to accuracy and ballistics. A light fast bullet can sometimes get pushed around or be so light it looses the velocity quickly. On the other hand a heavy slow bullet tends to get fired in a large arc but often maintains it's energy over a long distance.

Often it would be good to have a heavy bullet going very fast, but people tend to not be able to cope with the force of firing.

It isn't like that's a practicile gun regardless. I'd imagine there's much more accurate rifles out there. If its built for some specific shooting even I guess that makes sense, but still is as silly as most anything built for a single purpose.

From a practical point of view though, 5.56 is better than 7.62 isn't it? One of the reason the lighter round was chosen by the U.S. military and NATO over the heavier round was load out, distance and accuracy wasn't it?


It was the # of rounds each soldier could carry and it's accuracy and range was condsidered "Good Enough". The military continues to use 7.62mm for snipers. The 5.56 was considered less lethal, which was a desirable trait to the decision makers. Wounded soldiers consume more resources than dead ones was the theory.

Modern M4 rifles, with their shortened barrels have even less muzzle energy/range/accuracy than the M16s had.
 
2013-01-15 02:00:45 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Biggest? Really? My photos from the range are back at home, but they look kind of like this

[www.steelbeasts.com image 640x436]

105mm rifle. ~1500 m/s (~ 5000 ft/s) muzzle velocity with sabot rounds. Don't know the exact projectile weight, but lifting the old M392A1 round on my desk it's on the order of 15 pounds. I suppose you could argue centerfire, but the firing pin does contact the round in the center
And yes, firing one is exactly as awesome as you might think.


105mm? Pshaw. That's a gal's main gun.
 
2013-01-15 02:11:37 PM
Great. Now film a 16 year old girl trying to fire it and watch the dislocated shoulder hilarity ensue.
 
2013-01-15 02:42:03 PM

Giltric: Arkanaut: In before someone who needs it for self-defense.

When the Fithp come knocking on your door, what are you gonna do?


Roll over


/then shoot them in the back when they aren't looking
 
2013-01-15 02:43:23 PM

orezona: Great. Now film a 16 year old girl trying to fire it and watch the dislocated shoulder hilarity ensue.


Obligatory (some nsfw audio)
 
2013-01-15 03:20:47 PM

johnson442: One hears about how powerful .50 caliber is, for example. Going through cinderblock walls, engine blocks, etc. I'm curious what kind of damage one of these micro-cannons can do.

Steel plate? Tank armor? X late '50s muscle car bodies?

And were those bullets made of bronze? Forget casting, those things have got to be turned on a lathe!

/going to go Google how many ounces 2,400 grains equates to...Okay, about 51/2 ounces. each.


I'm just guessing, but I would bet at any sort of range the .50 cal is a better choice. That short stubby projectile probably has the Ballistic Coefficient of a brick. Its huge frontal area in comparison to it's size probably means it does not that great of a sectional density and the comparative penetration would lack.
 
2013-01-15 03:45:34 PM

you have pee hands: It got him a role as an extra in Gettysburg.


When the produces said they would pay for the powder and let them shoot their cannons all they wanted, there was a stampede to sign up.  They didn't even need to be paid.  The re-enactors in the movie mostly camped out in their civil war era tents and cooked their own food.
 
2013-01-15 04:08:08 PM

hogans: Bolt action?

Call me when it's at least a semi-auto.

/Sexual tyrannosaurus


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solothurn_S-18/100
 
2013-01-15 04:38:52 PM

manimal2878: johnson442: One hears about how powerful .50 caliber is, for example. Going through cinderblock walls, engine blocks, etc. I'm curious what kind of damage one of these micro-cannons can do.

Steel plate? Tank armor? X late '50s muscle car bodies?

And were those bullets made of bronze? Forget casting, those things have got to be turned on a lathe!

/going to go Google how many ounces 2,400 grains equates to...Okay, about 51/2 ounces. each.

I'm just guessing, but I would bet at any sort of range the .50 cal is a better choice. That short stubby projectile probably has the Ballistic Coefficient of a brick. Its huge frontal area in comparison to it's size probably means it does not that great of a sectional density and the comparative penetration would lack.


It does however carry the kind of kinetic energy needed for huge game, like elephants and dinosaurs.

Actually if dinosaurs were cold blooded and their nervous systems were similar to modern lizards they would be very hard to take down.
 
2013-01-15 06:53:40 PM
Only reason to have a rifle that big.

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/"Clever girl"
 
2013-01-15 07:23:15 PM
It's a gun, but it isn't a weapon. It couldn't be much more ill-suited for killing people, unless you asked them to politely line up at the point of impact.

And yet, some idjit is going to try and get it banned.
 
2013-01-15 08:03:00 PM
Not 3D printed? Luddites.
 
2013-01-15 09:30:57 PM

you have pee hands: This is excellent for self defense against Wooly Mammoths and Tyrannosaurs. That's three to four times as heavy as a .50cal round. What the hell is it for?


Didn't you read the headline, silly? It's the biggest damn centerfire rifle ever built! That's what it's for!
 
2013-01-15 09:50:50 PM

Mr.Insightful: BillCo: Endive Wombat: Wait till some congress critter gets a hold of this video and proposes a ban on it

/never mind the point of entry cost in procuring said gun and ammo is WAY beyond the reach of most criminals...

It's not the criminals that the government is worried about.


Wow you're a nutcase. Just wow.

/ Neat (impractical) rifle. I wonder just how many toddlers(*) a psycho could mow down with one of these in under a minute// (*)Evil "government" toddlers, in BillCo's parlance


The phycho should be able to take an entire class of 40 Kindergartners, if you had them single file waiting for a restroom break.
 
2013-01-15 11:08:38 PM
It's cool. It doesn't have a pistol grip or hold 30 rounds. Just a nice, friendly hunting rifle.
 
2013-01-15 11:22:07 PM
I'ma let you finish, but Gustav was the biggest center fire rifle of all time. OF ALL TIME!
 
2013-01-15 11:39:01 PM
Anything over 50 cal has to be Federally registered with the ATF.

Firearms stop being fun when they maim the shooter.
 
2013-01-16 04:25:55 AM
I have a .458 Win Mag that saw some 500 grain Hornady loaded with 67 grains of Reloader 7...that farking hurt; up until the stock self-destructed under the pressure.

/Never buying a CZ again
 
2013-01-16 06:38:18 AM
16"/50 cal. rifles are unimpressed:

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Fires a 2,700lb. projectile that can penetrate 20" of armor plating (or 21' of concrete) at 20,000 yards.
 
2013-01-16 08:15:28 AM

MikeSass: I'ma let you finish, but Gustav was the biggest center fire rifle of all time. OF ALL TIME!


I saw one of the bullets for that thing at some military museum in London. Thing was farking HUGE... like twice as tall as me. So cool.
 
2013-01-16 08:25:50 AM

Tumunga: Mr.Insightful: BillCo: Endive Wombat: Wait till some congress critter gets a hold of this video and proposes a ban on it

/never mind the point of entry cost in procuring said gun and ammo is WAY beyond the reach of most criminals...

It's not the criminals that the government is worried about.


Wow you're a nutcase. Just wow.

/ Neat (impractical) rifle. I wonder just how many toddlers(*) a psycho could mow down with one of these in under a minute// (*)Evil "government" toddlers, in BillCo's parlance

The phycho should be able to take an entire class of 40 Kindergartners, if you had them single file waiting for a restroom break.


There you have it! Kindergarteners are absolutely safe. They are physically incapable of standing in line.

\has something to do with magnetically polarity I think
 
2013-01-16 10:28:57 AM

Incetardis: I have a .458 Win Mag that saw some 500 grain Hornady loaded with 67 grains of Reloader 7...that farking hurt; up until the stock self-destructed under the pressure.

/Never buying a CZ again


I knew that sounded hot so I looked it up in my Lyman #49 book. It shows 65gr of RX7 being the max and its a compressed load at that. No wonder the stock came apart. I shoot 440gr SWC over 32gr of AA#9 in my 500S&W Mag Handi-Rifle and it kicks like a mule. I'd hate to shoot one out of the pistols. Especially the 1" Survivor model.
 
2013-01-16 06:05:12 PM
Burt Gummer would be proud.

/not obscure in the slightest.
 
2013-01-16 08:46:39 PM
that has got to be the coolest, most bad ass thing ever built.
 
2013-01-18 12:46:01 AM

indarwinsshadow: Wouldn't it just be easier to find a way to up the velocity of a smaller round, instead of screwing around with something the size of a soup can? I'm sorry, but the rifle in the video is impractical.


We've pretty much hit the maximum. The highest speed for a typical off-the-shelf bullet is just little more than 4000 fps. A few experimental rounds have gotten over 5000. Until we start having guidance systems on them so we don't have to use tight bores and rifling that's really going to be about as fast as anyone can push it.
 
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