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2013-01-15 03:35:27 AM

Gdalescrboz: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Earguy: Subby does not understand how veterans' medical benefits, and varying levels of eligibility, work.

I do.

/60%

60% is the standard for sleep apnea, a self induced condition that peopel get when they become fat asses and crush their body at night. Also tends to become more apparent when peopel get on shift work and move to nights for some reason.


Don't get what the percent means but sleep apnea isn't just for fatties. Has more to do with the structure of skull than anything else. Your head doesn't retain enough fat to collapse the airways behind your nose.

Also, sleep deprivation, which is obviously the result of constantly not breathing at night, causes weight gain, intense carb cravings because your body is low on energy, and energy so low that exercise is significantly more difficult.

Shift work is its own sleep disorder, but to diagnose any sleep disorder, they run a full test that checks for restless legs, sleep apnea, and narcolepsy. That's the only relationship.


/narcoleptic
//dad has sleep apnea, not a man to complain ever
///severe narcolepsy is what I'd wish on my worst enemies and all the assholes of the planet if I had the chance
 
2013-01-15 03:38:01 AM

Radioactive Ass: Kimothy: Are you talking about war veterans or all veterans? Because I can tell you, my cousin has been sitting on his ass stateside, never in any danger, but will take any upgrade/free drink/freebie offered to him. He says if people are stupid enough not to question whether he's a combat vet, then he has every right to take advantage of their generosity. He once got applause walking through an airport, because he was in uniform, then got upgraded on his flight. Does he deserve all those things because he's simply in the military?

I've got over 8 years in submarines (and yes, my shore duty was actually served on a submarine) during the cold war (82-91)and I haven't tapped the VA or any other governmental agency for squat since the day I got out. No loans, no medical, no educational assistance. Nothing.Hell, most of the people I know have no idea that I served, much less where or how. I may have to get into the VA system now because of Obamacare just to cover my bases but otherwise I probably never would have. For every scammer like your cousin out there there are probably 100 people who leave the service and never touch what they are legally entitled to. If they did the VA would be overwhelmed and bankrupt.

Your cousin is a disgrace as a human being for doing what he did, but that was probably his story long before he went into the military,


This. THIS. THIS!
 
2013-01-15 03:39:25 AM

daveUSMC: That's one of the great things about the Marines. We don't allow cammies to be worn in town.


I had no idea you were with the Marines, daveUSMC...
 
2013-01-15 03:44:20 AM

Ilmarinen: daveUSMC: That's one of the great things about the Marines. We don't allow cammies to be worn in town.

I had no idea you were with the Marines, daveUSMC...


Internet tagline created the better part of a decade earlier to chat with e-pals and trolls I'll never once meet vs parading around in town in your look-at-me soldier suit while doing routine things like shopping or eating. SLIGHT difference.
 
2013-01-15 03:58:26 AM

bangmaid: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 412x232]
wishes her husband was eligible for Viagra


Her husband didn't need Viagra. All he needed was a Bi-Polar CIA chick.
 
2013-01-15 04:04:03 AM

Gdalescrboz: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Earguy: Subby does not understand how veterans' medical benefits, and varying levels of eligibility, work.

I do.

/60%

60% is the standard for sleep apnea, a self induced condition that peopel get when they become fat asses and crush their body at night. Also tends to become more apparent when peopel get on shift work and move to nights for some reason.


These say you are full of it. 10%... and there are other ways of getting sleep apnea..
 
2013-01-15 04:36:05 AM

truthseeker2083: Kimothy: Steve Zodiac: By many current conservatives I am probably considered a liberal, but in my opinion if a vet needs/wants Viagra, medical treatment, job training, counseling, temporary housing or an education then I think they have damn well earned it. Look at the headline about military suicides and you realize that we have put a lot of physical, emotional and financial pressure on our vets and their families. I don't support a blank check for anyone but US veterans are not getting anything near what we owe them.

Are you talking about war veterans or all veterans? Because I can tell you, my cousin has been sitting on his ass stateside, never in any danger, but will take any upgrade/free drink/freebie offered to him. He says if people are stupid enough not to question whether he's a combat vet, then he has every right to take advantage of their generosity. He once got applause walking through an airport, because he was in uniform, then got upgraded on his flight. Does he deserve all those things because he's simply in the military?

Yes


And yes again.

He's still better than all the ITGs and wannabe soldiers talking about how they'd kick Mooslim ass if only they weren't too busy biatching about the Kenyan usurper in the White House.
 
2013-01-15 04:36:06 AM
Private, that is NOT the correct way to salute a superior officer.
 
2013-01-15 04:37:30 AM
My gf gets her birth control at a much reduced rate through the VA. Those wanting to make this into a women's issues thread, keep moving. Nothing to see here.
 
2013-01-15 04:44:00 AM

sexorcisst: Private, that is NOT the correct way to salute a superior officer.


It is if she's asking you to.

OK, that didn't sound right.
 
2013-01-15 05:40:11 AM
I served in "Special Operations" before such service had a name. I never had an injury that (Thankfully) required me to rely on Viagra. However, I was damned near killed in an operation in a country during an operation that will NEVER make the history books but which played a part in shortening the cold war. That's ALL I'm going to say about that.

If a male Vet needs viagra or a Female Vet needs birth control, I think they've earned at least that.

And shame on any non-Veteran American who tries to tell a combat veteran what they do or do not rate.

Combat is combat.

fark YOU if you voted for the wrong guy and he started a war you didn't like.

Injury is injury.
 
2013-01-15 05:48:52 AM
Steve Zodiac: By many current conservatives I am probably considered a liberal, but in my opinion if a vet needs/wants Viagra, medical treatment, job training, counseling, temporary housing or an education then I think they have damn well earned it. Look at the headline about military suicides and you realize that we have put a lot of physical, emotional and financial pressure on our vets and their families. I don't support a blank check for anyone but US veterans are not getting anything near what we owe them.

Bullshiat.

Between

A basic salary
educational benefits
job retraining benefits
health benefits
retirement benefits
mortgage benefits
tax benefits
travel benefits
housing benefits
job preference benefits
and thousands of others, the total compensation for the lowest grunt in the armed forces is now over $100,000/year equivalent.

US soliders are EXCEPTIONALLY well compensated, and it sounds to me that a blank check is EXACTLY what you are supporting.

unfortunately, showing that the myth of the "poor veteran" is an emperor without clothes is political suicide, so, we just pile on benefit after benefit after benefit because if you are agains them you Hate America and are Worse Than Hitler.

Sorry, NO. Enough is enough.
 
2013-01-15 05:51:23 AM
And fark you if you voted for a guy who promised he would end a two front war and DIDN'T.

Every Marine I knew was Apolitical.

When you're holding a fellow service person whose blood is rushing out of him or her so fast that it makes a sound when it hits the ground? Politics mean very little.

When you have been involved in some carnage and you suddenly realise that blood has a SMELL? Politics mean very little.

So a guy veteran needs a boner pill or a lady veteran is asking for an abortion because she was raped?

fark YOU for saying no.

HOW farkING DARE YOU?
 
2013-01-15 05:54:51 AM
"free?" really? The VA benefits are part of the contract.

Bomb Head Mohammed: Steve Zodiac: By many current conservatives I am probably considered a liberal, but in my opinion if a vet needs/wants Viagra, medical treatment, job training, counseling, temporary housing or an education then I think they have damn well earned it. Look at the headline about military suicides and you realize that we have put a lot of physical, emotional and financial pressure on our vets and their families. I don't support a blank check for anyone but US veterans are not getting anything near what we owe them.

Bullshiat.

Between

A basic salary
educational benefits
job retraining benefits
health benefits
retirement benefits
mortgage benefits
tax benefits
travel benefits
housing benefits
job preference benefits
and thousands of others, the total compensation for the lowest grunt in the armed forces is now over $100,000/year equivalent.

US soliders are EXCEPTIONALLY well compensated, and it sounds to me that a blank check is EXACTLY what you are supporting.

unfortunately, showing that the myth of the "poor veteran" is an emperor without clothes is political suicide, so, we just pile on benefit after benefit after benefit because if you are agains them you Hate America and are Worse Than Hitler.

Sorry, NO. Enough is enough.


Please, please, please be a troll....
I spent way too much time working with military wives on how to get WIC so their kids would have proper nutrition.

Anyone who says that the VA hands out whatever vets want willy-nilly has never tried to get something they need from them.
 
2013-01-15 05:59:42 AM

Bomb Head Mohammed: Steve Zodiac: By many current conservatives I am probably considered a liberal, but in my opinion if a vet needs/wants Viagra, medical treatment, job training, counseling, temporary housing or an education then I think they have damn well earned it. Look at the headline about military suicides and you realize that we have put a lot of physical, emotional and financial pressure on our vets and their families. I don't support a blank check for anyone but US veterans are not getting anything near what we owe them.

Bullshiat.

Between

A basic salary
educational benefits
job retraining benefits
health benefits
retirement benefits
mortgage benefits
tax benefits
travel benefits
housing benefits
job preference benefits
and thousands of others, the total compensation for the lowest grunt in the armed forces is now over $100,000/year equivalent.

US soliders are EXCEPTIONALLY well compensated, and it sounds to me that a blank check is EXACTLY what you are supporting..


Enough is enough is RIGHT! YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY BATshiat INSANE.

(CITATION.JPEG)

Do you even KNOW what an American warrior is paid?

And YOU get EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE SAME FEDERAL BENEFITS without you having to risk your tiny yellow skin!

Go upstairs to your Mom's Kitchen, your Pizza Rolls are done and she wants to microwave a hotpocket.
 
2013-01-15 06:06:08 AM
"Please, please, please be a troll....
I spent way too much time working with military wives on how to get WIC so their kids would have proper nutrition."

So, what you're saying is that the government isnt providing enough - so little in fact that those in question need to turn to a government program? hello? hello? Anybody in there?

What needs an adjustment is your expectations. Those "people getting WIC" were the multiple kids of a 22 year old high school graduate (if even) grunt who admittedly gets a relatively low basic monetary component to his contribution and yet your expectation is that he be able to support family on this. as if suddenly his enlistment in the military is supposed to make good all of his previous bad life choices.

your wic family guy has enormous opportunity to get a subsidized mortgage, subsidized housing, subsidized health care and to better himself for his family through subsidized education, job training, and job preferences.

what is wrong is this insane notion that all of a sudden because somebody joins the military they are entitled to a middle class life and a middle class salary and that somehow we can pretend that they have middle class skills (and, moreover, that they are all 'heroes.') The military is a giant organization made up of diverse individuals. It provides them with enormous opportunities and benefits. but it is not and should not be a guarantee nor should be a promise to fix their lives based on a few years of service.

the military is an INCREDIBLY good financial / benefits deal for anybody who joins at the moment.
 
2013-01-15 06:07:44 AM

Poo_Fight: Bomb Head Mohammed: Steve Zodiac: By many current conservatives I am probably considered a liberal, but in my opinion if a vet needs/wants Viagra, medical treatment, job training, counseling, temporary housing or an education then I think they have damn well earned it. Look at the headline about military suicides and you realize that we have put a lot of physical, emotional and financial pressure on our vets and their families. I don't support a blank check for anyone but US veterans are not getting anything near what we owe them.

Bullshiat.

Between

A basic salary
educational benefits
job retraining benefits
health benefits
retirement benefits
mortgage benefits
tax benefits
travel benefits
housing benefits
job preference benefits
and thousands of others, the total compensation for the lowest grunt in the armed forces is now over $100,000/year equivalent.

US soliders are EXCEPTIONALLY well compensated, and it sounds to me that a blank check is EXACTLY what you are supporting..

Enough is enough is RIGHT! YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY BATshiat INSANE.

(CITATION.JPEG)

Do you even KNOW what an American warrior is paid?

And YOU get EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE SAME FEDERAL BENEFITS without you having to risk your tiny yellow skin!

Go upstairs to your Mom's Kitchen, your Pizza Rolls are done and she wants to microwave a hotpocket.


Well, there is a massive disparity in pay between junior enlisted and senior officer pay. I am fortunate enough to have had a college education, and entered in as an officer. My pay is very comfortable and puts me in the slightly upper middle class. Plus, I've been in AFG for a long ass time, so I'm not paying federal taxes (don't tell Mitt). I'm doing just fine, financially at least, and should probably not ask taxpayers to pay for my middle pocket salutes.

However, PFC Jones, does not have much disposable income, especially if he decided to marry one of the locals around Camp LeJeune,

Big difference.
 
2013-01-15 06:08:37 AM
Honestly, if you're greatest concern is the perception that some one else is getting a boner on your dime?....
 
2013-01-15 06:11:07 AM

Bomb Head Mohammed: Bullshiat.


It's cute that you don't know the difference between a veteran and active duty.
 
2013-01-15 06:12:43 AM
The US Military is the biggest socialist jobs and education program on the planet, complete with socialist healthcare.
It is strange that so many of those that benefitted from this largess are political conservatives that speak out against socialist jobs programs and healthcare.
Republican veterns are all a bunch of hypocritical self-important crybabies that believe everyone else should respect their "sacrifice."
Whatever. You got paid and you continue to get paid and now you want a free boner for your efforts so you can jack off to the Fox news anchors.
 
2013-01-15 06:17:23 AM
Well, there is a massive disparity in pay between junior enlisted and senior officer pay. I am fortunate enough to have had a college education, and entered in as an officer. My pay is very comfortableand puts me in the slightly upper middle class. Plus, I've been in AFG for a long ass time, so I'm not paying federal taxes (don't tell Mitt). I'm doing just fine, financially at least, and should probably not ask taxpayers to pay for my middle pocket salutes.

However, PFC Jones, does not have much disposable income, especially if he decided to marry one of the locals around Camp LeJeune,

Big difference.


"senior officer" ? Really?

Tell me what rank, TIS, and money you make as a "SENIOR OFFICER " and I'll demonstrate to you how you are farking liar. In the Corps there is NO SUCH THING. (That's a hollywodd term.)

But you're probably, wha?t -14 years old and will spend the rest of your life PRETENDING to be a warrior.
 
2013-01-15 06:18:13 AM

TheWhoppah: The US Military is the biggest socialist jobs and education program on the planet, complete with socialist healthcare.
It is strange that so many of those that benefitted from this largess are political conservatives that speak out against socialist jobs programs and healthcare.
Republican veterns are all a bunch of hypocritical self-important crybabies that believe everyone else should respect their "sacrifice."
Whatever. You got paid and you continue to get paid and now you want a free boner for your efforts so you can jack off to the Fox news anchors.


While the ideological part of your tirade is more or less accurate, who shat in your cheerios this morning? C'mere. Someone needs a hug. Get over here big guy!
 
2013-01-15 06:21:03 AM
MisterTweak:
Our national defense generates a lot of wealth, but not for the people who wear uniforms, as you've noticed.

Zombie Smedley Butler, is that you?
 
2013-01-15 06:22:23 AM
daveUSMC:However, PFC Jones, does not have much disposable income, especially if he decided to marry one of the locals around Camp LeJeune,/I>

Disposable income as in cash, i fully agree. But PFC jones has, as multiple studies have pointed out [sorry, 'citation needed, i know - dont have any handy as i am at the airport], access to an enormous amount of benefits that make the total value of his compensation enormous, especially so if he takes advantage of things like educational, tax, mortgage, job preference, etc. benefits.. and, thesedays, PFC jones needs to be in only a few years to get a gold plated lifetime health benefit the likes of which would make our ww2 veterans blush.
 
2013-01-15 06:22:56 AM

daveUSMC: TheWhoppah: The US Military is the biggest socialist jobs and education program on the planet, complete with socialist healthcare.
It is strange that so many of those that benefitted from this largess are political conservatives that speak out against socialist jobs programs and healthcare.
Republican veterns are all a bunch of hypocritical self-important crybabies that believe everyone else should respect their "sacrifice."
Whatever. You got paid and you continue to get paid and now you want a free boner for your efforts so you can jack off to the Fox news anchors.

While the ideological part of your tirade is more or less accurate, who shat in your cheerios this morning? C'mere. Someone needs a hug. Get over here big guy!


Best thing I've read in a WEEK!!!
 
2013-01-15 06:24:09 AM

Poo_Fight: Do you even KNOW what an American warrior is paid?


"American warrior" ? Really?

Tell me what rank, TIS, and money you make as a "AMERICAN WARRIOR " and I'll demonstrate to you how you are farking liar. In the Corps there is NO SUCH THING. (That's a hollywodd term.)

But you're probably, wha?t -14 years old and will spend the rest of your life PRETENDING to be a warrior.
 
2013-01-15 06:35:56 AM

Poo_Fight: Well, there is a massive disparity in pay between junior enlisted and senior officer pay. I am fortunate enough to have had a college education, and entered in as an officer. My pay is very comfortableand puts me in the slightly upper middle class. Plus, I've been in AFG for a long ass time, so I'm not paying federal taxes (don't tell Mitt). I'm doing just fine, financially at least, and should probably not ask taxpayers to pay for my middle pocket salutes.

However, PFC Jones, does not have much disposable income, especially if he decided to marry one of the locals around Camp LeJeune,

Big difference.

"senior officer" ? Really?

Tell me what rank, TIS, and money you make as a "SENIOR OFFICER " and I'll demonstrate to you how you are farking liar. In the Corps there is NO SUCH THING. (That's a hollywodd term.)

But you're probably, wha?t -14 years old and will spend the rest of your life PRETENDING to be a warrior.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-15 06:37:44 AM
log_jammin: Bomb Head Mohammed: Bullshiat.

It's cute that you don't know the difference between a veteran and active duty.

it's cute that you don't know the meaning of 'total compensation equivalent.' If i work today at a bookstore and make $5 per hour but that bookstore offers me a gold plated health package for life after I work there a few years, then the value of what I am actually getting is more than $5 per hour, even if I only have $5 x 40 in cash in my pocket at the end of the week.

But, you know, keep throwing up smokescreens and fud to try to draw attention from the basic fact that the total compensation equivalent that US military members receive is incredibly generous compared to any other military or time in history. wrap yourself in the flag and start accusing me of being an al quaeda sympathizer of seecret mooslim while you're at it.
 
2013-01-15 06:39:26 AM

Poo_Fight: Well, there is a massive disparity in pay between junior enlisted and senior officer pay. I am fortunate enough to have had a college education, and entered in as an officer. My pay is very comfortableand puts me in the slightly upper middle class. Plus, I've been in AFG for a long ass time, so I'm not paying federal taxes (don't tell Mitt). I'm doing just fine, financially at least, and should probably not ask taxpayers to pay for my middle pocket salutes.

However, PFC Jones, does not have much disposable income, especially if he decided to marry one of the locals around Camp LeJeune,

Big difference.

"senior officer" ? Really?

Tell me what rank, TIS, and money you make as a "SENIOR OFFICER " and I'll demonstrate to you how you are farking liar. In the Corps there is NO SUCH THING. (That's a hollywodd term.)

But you're probably, wha?t -14 years old and will spend the rest of your life PRETENDING to be a warrior.


Hey bud, I never said I was a senior officer, just an officer. I reiterate my earlier question: who has defecated in your breakfast on this fine morning?
 
2013-01-15 06:43:05 AM

daveUSMC: Poo_Fight: Well, there is a massive disparity in pay between junior enlisted and senior officer pay. I am fortunate enough to have had a college education, and entered in as an officer. My pay is very comfortableand puts me in the slightly upper middle class. Plus, I've been in AFG for a long ass time, so I'm not paying federal taxes (don't tell Mitt). I'm doing just fine, financially at least, and should probably not ask taxpayers to pay for my middle pocket salutes.

However, PFC Jones, does not have much disposable income, especially if he decided to marry one of the locals around Camp LeJeune,

Big difference.

"senior officer" ? Really?

Tell me what rank, TIS, and money you make as a "SENIOR OFFICER " and I'll demonstrate to you how you are farking liar. In the Corps there is NO SUCH THING. (That's a hollywodd term.)

But you're probably, wha?t -14 years old and will spend the rest of your life PRETENDING to be a warrior.

Hey bud, I never said I was a senior officer, just an officer. I reiterate my earlier question: who has defecated in your breakfast on this fine morning?


Wait, I just realized, you weren't the original breakfast poop victim in question. There must be a phantom villain...

Really, though. Why so up in arms (no pun intended)? Chill, friend.
 
2013-01-15 06:47:54 AM

Bomb Head Mohammed: the total compensation equivalent that US military members


wow. you really don't know the difference.

Bomb Head Mohammed: wrap yourself in the flag and start accusing me of being an al quaeda sympathizer of seecret mooslim while you're at it.


wut?
 
2013-01-15 06:51:20 AM
Anyway, my main point, prior to being successfully baited by Poo_Fight, is that you cannot say that the entire military is comprised of nothing but underpaid and unappreciated heroes fightin' fer freedom all the time.

There are many who skate out of deployments; who are generally turds; who make up the LCpl Motaris (puppy thrower) of the Corps.

Also, the pay is very good for a very large cross-section of the military. Starting at about E-5 with 6 years time in service, you're in the range of solidly middle class. And officers starting out as a boot Lt are already in that echelon. I am very blessed and fortunate to be compensated the way I am (I'm no rich man, especially with the ol' ball and chain), but I have never once been in financial trouble in my adult post-college life thanks to the military and its great benefits. And I'll end up either getting a free MBA or if I stay in long enough, pass on a free undergraduate degree to my kid in 20 years or so.

The health care is great too, relatively speaking. Unless you're a very junior enlisted serviceman, there is no reason to gripe about the pay and bennies, is my only point - which was tangentially related to boner pills.
 
2013-01-15 06:53:07 AM
Wow, I need an internet writing class... or just need to go to bed. My apologies for the run-ons and fragments.
 
2013-01-15 07:10:50 AM
This is good news. I kind of hurt my back while I was in. Planet Vicodin here I come!
 
2013-01-15 07:31:20 AM

ladyfortuna: Earguy: Subby does not understand how veterans' medical benefits, and varying levels of eligibility, work.

This. There are even varying levels of being a veteran, apparently, since I've been told I'm not one basically because I never got deployed while in the Reserves. Yet some organizations don't mind that.


Yeah, I joined the Reserves after the first Gulf war, and was honorably discharged before the  second.  I am not considered a veteran, and I have no DD-214.

What organizations "don't mind"?
 
2013-01-15 07:38:53 AM

Earguy: ladyfortuna: Earguy: Subby does not understand how veterans' medical benefits, and varying levels of eligibility, work.

This. There are even varying levels of being a veteran, apparently, since I've been told I'm not one basically because I never got deployed while in the Reserves. Yet some organizations don't mind that.

Yeah, I joined the Reserves after the first Gulf war, and was honorably discharged before the  second.  I am not considered a veteran, and I have no DD-214.

What organizations "don't mind"?


How did you not get a DD214? sounds like someone in the head shed was too lazy to do paperwork, which isnt surprising.
 
2013-01-15 07:44:37 AM

Earguy: Yeah, I joined the Reserves after the first Gulf war, and was honorably discharged before the second. I am not considered a veteran, and I have no DD-214.


wow. that farking sucks. I didn't know it worked like that.
 
2013-01-15 07:46:53 AM

Onkel Buck: How did you not get a DD214? sounds like someone in the head shed was too lazy to do paperwork, which isnt surprising.


They're not given to reservists, and the don't qualify for most VA benefits unless they were active duty at some point.

My first thought was admin screw up as well, but that's not it.
 
2013-01-15 07:55:53 AM

log_jammin: Onkel Buck: How did you not get a DD214? sounds like someone in the head shed was too lazy to do paperwork, which isnt surprising.

They're not given to reservists, and the don't qualify for most VA benefits unless they were active duty at some point.

My first thought was admin screw up as well, but that's not it.


Wow. I served 7 years active and didnt know that. Thats pretty shiatty. If you did basic and AIT with guys going active and National Guard you should get all the same benefits.
 
2013-01-15 07:57:44 AM
The "Big Green Weenie" doesn't need Viagra, it's always hard and ready to fark you.

/BOHICA
 
2013-01-15 08:06:46 AM

fst_creeper: TL\DR version: I can get the medications and services I need but if they are not related to my service injuries I will be paying for them.


That. And if you are covered by any insurance- say from a spouse or your own job -the VA bills them. There are some obvious benefits in that if you see more than one specialist on any given day, you only make one copay. There is a max copay on any drug prescription, stuff like that. But my personal experience is it's not a whole lot different than any other insurance I have used.
 
2013-01-15 08:08:58 AM
I read that as vegetarians. If that was true, I suspect a lot of soldiers would go vegetarian during service.
 
2013-01-15 08:10:12 AM
It's been covered above, but Viagra is not free through the VA. unless the "disability" is service related. PTSD might qualify you. And, even then they prescribe only 3 or 4 pills for 30 days, and the 'script says to break 'em in half so you get twice as many bones.

It's a joke. Would you want to drink only half a beer so you theoretically get twice as many beers out of a six pak? Of course not. It takes a whole pill to play hide the salami.

So if you ever come out of your mom's basement and actually get a non-blow-up girlfriend, you may discover that 3 rides a month really isn't enough.

Finally, anyone who wears or has worn a uniform has written a check to the US Govt for up to and including his/her life. It can be cashed at any time. We're all heroes.
 
2013-01-15 08:14:24 AM

Radioactive Ass:
Your cousin is a disgrace as a human being for doing what he did, but that was probably his story long before he went into the military,


Why? He signed up and went to training and was on call for the US. The fact his unit never had the need to force him to go serve is none of anyones business. I know a lot of reserver/guard members that are veterans that never went over. I've only had to go over one time the rest we have had enough people volunteer to go (yes I volunteered the first time, new family happened and didn't want to leave them unless I had to).

There are a lot of reserve and guard veterans that have never been to sandbox but they are still veterans because they could have been sent at any time. Yes it sucks and I thought really badly of one troop that said he's spending 20 years of only going to the good AT spots and will never go to anywhere bad unless forced, I thought he was a POS but he still fulfulling his obligation; I was so glad he got forced out for being a d-bag.
 
2013-01-15 08:16:32 AM

Habitual Cynic: It's been covered above, but Viagra is not free through the VA. unless the "disability" is service related. PTSD might qualify you. And, even then they prescribe only 3 or 4 pills for 30 days, and the 'script says to break 'em in half so you get twice as many bones.

It's a joke. Would you want to drink only half a beer so you theoretically get twice as many beers out of a six pak? Of course not. It takes a whole pill to play hide the salami.

So if you ever come out of your mom's basement and actually get a non-blow-up girlfriend, you may discover that 3 rides a month really isn't enough.

Finally, anyone who wears or has worn a uniform has written a check to the US Govt for up to and including his/her life. It can be cashed at any time. We're all heroes.


Hey I'm married and it's a good month for 3 rides a month. I'm not sure what I would do with 6.
 
2013-01-15 08:22:50 AM
If businesses are forced to pay for birth control for hairy legged feminists then I have mo problem with vets getting free ED drugs whether they need them or not.
 
2013-01-15 08:25:15 AM
Cry moar, feminazimitter. You sound very emotional.
 
2013-01-15 08:29:43 AM

Poo_Fight: Do you even KNOW what an American warrior is paid?

And YOU get EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE SAME FEDERAL BENEFITS without you having to risk your tiny yellow skin!


Stormfront.org is thattaway, oh great American patriot --->
 
2013-01-15 08:41:31 AM
Get Congress to actually declare a war, then get back to me about veteran's needs in "wartime." They get enough handouts as it is. It's a volunteer army, and any idiots that volunteered knowing full well that their asses were getting sent to a pointless nation-building exercise get no sympathy from me.
 
2013-01-15 08:44:50 AM

fst_creeper: Gdalescrboz: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Earguy: Subby does not understand how veterans' medical benefits, and varying levels of eligibility, work.

I do.

/60%

60% is the standard for sleep apnea, a self induced condition that peopel get when they become fat asses and crush their body at night. Also tends to become more apparent when peopel get on shift work and move to nights for some reason.

These say you are full of it. 10%... and there are other ways of getting sleep apnea..



All right listen up, this is Rumor Control, and here are the facts.

With regard to obstructive sleep apnea, it is not a "presumptive" condition, which is whythat Veteran lost his appeal to the Board of Veterans Appeals. Second of all, the evaluation of sleep apnea in specific (diagnostic code 6847) and all service connected disabilities in general are controlled by 38 Code of Federal Regulations Part 4 section whatever. It's available online if anyone is curious. Sleep apnea looks like this:

6847 Sleep Apnea Syndromes (Obstructive, Central, Mixed): Rating
Chronic respiratory failure with carbon dioxide retention or cor pulmonale, or; requires tracheostomy 100
Requires use of breathing assistance device such as continuous airway pressure (CPAP) machine 50
Persistent day-time hypersomnolence 30
Asymptomatic but with documented sleep disorder breathing 0


So usually, if there's an in-service dx of OSA, or if there's at least documented complaints of symptoms during service that a doctor provided a medical opinion with a decent rationale establishing a link between the current diagnosis and the in-service symptoms, then we can service connect that.The CPAP makesit worth 50 percent.

Yes, we, I work for the VA granting or denying exactly these sorts of claims for a few years now, really getting a kick, etc.

With regard to the guy's cousin who stayed stateside but gets applause in the airport whilst wearing his uniform: Dude still gave Uncle Sam a blank with a value up to and including his life when he signed up. He didn't know he was going to be an REMF. I don't care whether a Veteran's injuries are due to enemy action or from playing basketball; they all handed the same blank check over to Uncle Sam when they signed up.

A note about basketballs; those things are a menace. I've seen soooooo many injuries related to basketball; wrists, knees, all sorts of things. We ought to be dropping those on the enemy instead! Hah! I make joke.

With regard to Reservists: Yeah, sorry about that. I think they get kind of a raw deal. See, the general philosophy is that you are presumed to be in tip top perfect shape when you enlist, other than whatever specific items are listed on your enlistment physical, and whatever happens to you during ACTIVE DUTY is Uncle Sam's responsibility. It's sort of like Workers Compensation in a way. We simply PRESUME that WHATEVER happens to you (short of willful misconduct) during active duty was incurred "in the line of duty" because we don't want to have to worry about proving or disproving exactly how the injury or illness is related to service. We're giving them the benefit of the doubt. This works out great for Service Members with many years of Active Duty service; just about whatever happens to them is thus service connected. The Reservists and Guards however, they're only eligible for service connection for injuries that happen while on Active Duty, or Active Duty for Training. Trranslation: two brothers, one career Army for 20 years, the other does his four year stint and is Reserves for the next 16, and both wind up with hypertension, only the first brother is going to get it. We DO however make an exception for heart attacks and strokes just as a matter of policy; a Reservist who strokes out during ADT or has a heart attack on his way to or from Active Duty for Training for example will usually get service connected.

If it's any consolation, working claims from Guards/Reservists is a PITA, because they have like six or eight periods of Active Duty due to the NEVER. ENDING. DEPLOYMENTS. It causes a processing and paperwork nightmare.

Last, and to address the headline: First, I DNRTFA. Second, there are a hell-smear of Vietnam Veterans out there. They're part of the Baby Boom generation, remember? And diabetes is a presumptive condition related to Agent Orange. That is, we PRESUME that diabetes was caused by their exposure to Agent Orange and not 30 years of sucking down cheeseburgers since they got out of service decades ago. A common complication of diabetes is... erectile dysfunction.So, it is only natural that, as these guys get older and their diabetes progresses that they develop erectile dysfunction, and we treat the complications of their service connected condition.

TL/DR: Sleep Apnea clarification, basketballs BAD!, sucks to be a Guard/Reserveists, increased usage of ED medication is to be expected based on the population being served.

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