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(Talking Points Memo)   Since it worked so well during the 1990s, at least one House GOP member is preparing articles of impeachment against the President   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 234
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2013-01-14 07:18:26 PM  
The NERVE of that guy!  How DARE he think about using the powers vested in his office?!  Who does he think he is?!

Impeachment charges will read:  Presidentin' while President.
 
2013-01-14 07:21:50 PM  
Subby, Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice. He was not removed from office by the Senate.

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The NERVE of that guy!  How DARE he think about using the powers vested in his office?!  Who does he think he is?!


What executive powers allow him to override legislation or the Constitution with executive orders. I don't see any, but I am sure some argument will be made that it is possible. I don't see that argument holding water.
 
2013-01-14 07:31:41 PM  

feckingmorons: What executive powers allow him to override legislation or the Constitution with executive orders.


What executive orders actually issued have overridden legislation or the Constitution?
 
2013-01-14 07:44:22 PM  
kronicfeld: What executive orders ...

The ones dealing with selective non-enforcement of immigration laws, perhaps.
 
2013-01-14 07:45:57 PM  

kronicfeld: feckingmorons: What executive powers allow him to override legislation or the Constitution with executive orders.

What executive orders actually issued have overridden legislation or the Constitution?


None that I know of. However that is the chatter in the press theses days that an EO will be used to somehow change gun ownership, sale or registrations. I don't think it is possible, that is a wholly legislative arena.
 
2013-01-14 07:51:06 PM  
The Fear-Machine has been running at full emergency derp-power. Rushbo has been telling his listeners that "these Executive Orders can ONLY mean confiscation", so that's the echo they're talking about.

They're expecting jack-booted thugs kicking down their doors in the middle of the night and the Troll-in-Chief is going to give them better database sharing between states.
 
2013-01-14 07:55:22 PM  
Obama isn't going to take anyone's guns.

He is fully aware that Republicans need guns because without them they are unarmed pants-shiatting pussies.
 
2013-01-14 07:58:24 PM  

Sgygus: The ones dealing with selective non-enforcement of immigration laws, perhaps.


You mean exercising discretion in allocating resources to prioritize enforcing immigration laws as to those with more serious criminal records, all while increasing overall enforcement of immigration laws and deportations? Feel free to provide a citation to some authority supporting the proposition that is unconstitutional or an overriding of Congressional legislation.
 
2013-01-14 08:07:36 PM  

kronicfeld: feckingmorons: What executive powers allow him to override legislation or the Constitution with executive orders.

What executive orders actually issued have overridden legislation or the Constitution?


Executive Order 13198

/*ducks*
 
2013-01-14 08:08:20 PM  

kronicfeld: Sgygus: The ones dealing with selective non-enforcement of immigration laws, perhaps.

You mean exercising discretion in allocating resources to prioritize enforcing immigration laws as to those with more serious criminal records, all while increasing overall enforcement of immigration laws and deportations? Feel free to provide a citation to some authority supporting the proposition that is unconstitutional or an overriding of Congressional legislation.


That doesn't sound like high crimes or misdemeanors. But, what do I know; I haven't been lobotomized. Yet.
 
2013-01-14 08:09:21 PM  
Think of all the jobs this will create!!
 
2013-01-14 08:09:47 PM  

Sgygus: kronicfeld: What executive orders ...

The ones dealing with selective non-enforcement of immigration laws, perhaps.


I feel you bro. The way I understand it, this Administration is above in numbers for total deportation than the last one. Families with children born here, or brought here? Who knew why he focused on the children? They get a pass. Why? Future votes for the Dems.

History's greatest monster. Truly.
 
2013-01-14 08:17:04 PM  
What a gun-grabbin' via Executive Order varmint of a President might look like:

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-14 08:20:33 PM  
If I am not mistaken - and I really might be because I don't feel like Googling this and reading the Wikipedia entry, and let's be honest, even then I could easily be mistaken as well - the House votes to impeach the President on whatever grounds, then it gets kicked to the Senate to actually try the President based on the complaints of the House.  You know, the Democratically held Senate that wants to enact gun control.
 
2013-01-14 08:22:47 PM  
I'm tempted to think it must be Michelle Bachmann, but the House is pretty much a never ending retard parade these days, so it might not be.
 
2013-01-14 08:23:32 PM  

feckingmorons: kronicfeld: feckingmorons: What executive powers allow him to override legislation or the Constitution with executive orders.

What executive orders actually issued have overridden legislation or the Constitution?

None that I know of. However that is the chatter in the press theses days that an EO will be used to somehow change gun ownership, sale or registrations. I don't think it is possible, that is a wholly legislative arena.


Oh, so you're saying the headline should read "Congresscritter draws up plans to impeach the press"?
 
2013-01-14 08:24:10 PM  

SnakeLee: If I am not mistaken - and I really might be because I don't feel like Googling this and reading the Wikipedia entry, and let's be honest, even then I could easily be mistaken as well - the House votes to impeach the President on whatever grounds, then it gets kicked to the Senate to actually try the President based on the complaints of the House.  You know, the Democratically held Senate that wants to enact gun control.


Remember Clinton?

All that shiat when there was a <0% chance of him actually losing his job?

Bill probably remembers it fondly, his approval ratings soared while all the Republicans got was a sore ear from the deafening sound of America yelling STFU&GBTW!!
 
2013-01-14 08:24:38 PM  
Obama should be impeached because of *4 page essay on a bunch of bullshiat that barely makes sense* he's black!
 
2013-01-14 08:24:48 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Think of all the jobs this will create!!


not to mention how safe our children will be
 
2013-01-14 08:24:51 PM  
Is it over Benghazi? Because It take a terrible President to rule over the death of a terrorist attack on American assets and then not have the complete store and be 100% truthful about it hours after the incident. Such a thing has never happened before. We need justice.
 
2013-01-14 08:26:48 PM  
... Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX) threatened to file articles of impeachment if President Obama uses an executive order to try to reduce gun violence.

Reducing gun violence is an impeachable offense. I don't see the problem here.
 
2013-01-14 08:27:05 PM  
Do it. I bought all of the squares in the office impeachment pool from January 15th through the end if the month.
 
2013-01-14 08:27:11 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The NERVE of that guy!  How DARE he think about using the powers vested in his office?!  Who does he think he is?!

Impeachment charges will read:  Presidentin' while President. Black.

 
2013-01-14 08:28:56 PM  

partisan222: feckingmorons: kronicfeld: feckingmorons: What executive powers allow him to override legislation or the Constitution with executive orders.

What executive orders actually issued have overridden legislation or the Constitution?

None that I know of. However that is the chatter in the press theses days that an EO will be used to somehow change gun ownership, sale or registrations. I don't think it is possible, that is a wholly legislative arena.

Oh, so you're saying the headline should read "Congresscritter draws up plans to impeach the press"?


I think every member of Congress is given a computer with a bunch of Word Templates. Articles of Impeachment are most certainly one of them. Some idiot is spouting off about it about every other week. Republican or Democrat (thankfully that Socialist and Lieberman don't) depending on who is president the other side wants to impeach him.

If they would just STFU and do some work that would be great. Heck if they want to work on gun control that would be fine with me and I oppose almost everything proposed. If they can come up with a better way to keep guns out of the hands of lunatics and criminals I'm all for it - as long as it is legal and doesn't trample the rights of the 90+% of us who are not certifiable or criminals.

These farkers can't even agree on what to have for lunch. These people posture more than 16 year old HS guys. Just do the work we sent you to do, have sensible reasons for what you do and quit pissing away our money.
 
2013-01-14 08:29:20 PM  

Poopspasm: I'm tempted to think it must be Michelle Bachmann, but the House is pretty much a never ending retard parade these days, so it might not be.


So it wasn't her.

Oh Texas, you so Cray-Cray.
 
2013-01-14 08:29:22 PM  
Would they also impeach if he issued EOs to increase gun violence?
 
2013-01-14 08:29:32 PM  
WE GET IT. HE'S BLACK.
 
2013-01-14 08:31:00 PM  
kronicfeld: You mean exercising discretion in allocating resources ...

We're talking about impeaching the president.  To hell with your elitist logic and facts.
 
2013-01-14 08:31:02 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The NERVE of that guy!  How DARE he think about using the powers vested in his office?!  Who does he think he is?!

Impeachment charges will read:  Presidentin' while President.


Presidentin' while Negro.
 
2013-01-14 08:31:10 PM  

feckingmorons: partisan222: feckingmorons: kronicfeld: feckingmorons: What executive powers allow him to override legislation or the Constitution with executive orders.

What executive orders actually issued have overridden legislation or the Constitution?

None that I know of. However that is the chatter in the press theses days that an EO will be used to somehow change gun ownership, sale or registrations. I don't think it is possible, that is a wholly legislative arena.

Oh, so you're saying the headline should read "Congresscritter draws up plans to impeach the press"?

I think every member of Congress is given a computer with a bunch of Word Templates. Articles of Impeachment are most certainly one of them. Some idiot is spouting off about it about every other week. Republican or Democrat (thankfully that Socialist and Lieberman don't) depending on who is president the other side wants to impeach him.

If they would just STFU and do some work that would be great. Heck if they want to work on gun control that would be fine with me and I oppose almost everything proposed. If they can come up with a better way to keep guns out of the hands of lunatics and criminals I'm all for it - as long as it is legal and doesn't trample the rights of the 90+% of us who are not certifiable or criminals.

These farkers can't even agree on what to have for lunch. These people posture more than 16 year old HS guys. Just do the work we sent you to do, have sensible reasons for what you do and quit pissing away our money.


Agreed, but don't act like this impeachment BS happens on both sides of the aisle.
 
2013-01-14 08:31:14 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The NERVE of that guy!  How DARE he think about using the powers vested in his office?!  Who does he think he is?!

Impeachment charges will read:  Presidentin' while President black.


FTFY
 
2013-01-14 08:31:22 PM  
it worked out pretty good for this guy:

i43.tower.com
 
2013-01-14 08:31:42 PM  

Zeppelininthesky: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The NERVE of that guy!  How DARE he think about using the powers vested in his office?!  Who does he think he is?!

Impeachment charges will read:  Presidentin' while President black.

FTFY


thief
 
2013-01-14 08:32:07 PM  
Funny....it seemed like they had gone well past that but I guess if you're going to be crazy then why no have some reverence for the classics.

So let's see how well this works in 2014 for them.
 
2013-01-14 08:32:18 PM  

Sgygus: kronicfeld: What executive orders ...

The ones dealing with selective non-enforcement of immigration laws, perhaps.


The president has always prioritized enforcement of national laws. That's one of the may jobs he has.
 
2013-01-14 08:33:47 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Obama isn't going to take anyone's guns.

He is fully aware that Republicans need guns because without them they are unarmed pants-shiatting pussies.


I think you're pretty much a scared pussy if you are too afraid to go to the movies or anywhere else without a gun.
 
2013-01-14 08:34:43 PM  
It wouldn't be a congress without a threat of impeachment or government shutdown.

Do GOP lawmakers actually do any governing?
 
2013-01-14 08:35:49 PM  
WE GET IT. HE'S BLACK.
 
2013-01-14 08:36:53 PM  
What if legislation was passed to make it extremely difficult to manufacture firearms in the United States, like they do to abortion clinics in derp states? Then they jacked up import duties on firearms, making foreign guns very expensive. Keep 'em and bear 'em all you want. Good luck finding and buying 'em.

Would this create a constitutional conflict?
 
2013-01-14 08:36:58 PM  

homelessdude: It wouldn't be a REPUBLICAN congress without a threat of impeachment or government shutdown.

Do GOP lawmakers actually do any governing?


FTFY.

And no GOP just tries to sabotage government so they can pretend it is always a failure to get reelected.
 
2013-01-14 08:37:59 PM  
I would love to see the exact charge.
 
2013-01-14 08:40:23 PM  
"Please proceed, Representative."

i759.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-14 08:41:18 PM  

Zeppelininthesky: I would love to see the exact charge.


Read the thread: Presidentin' while Blah
 
2013-01-14 08:41:23 PM  
Annnnnnd there it is. I was waiting for the first 'impeach him over whatever the fark' attempt. It was building to this for four years. Five if you count the 2008 campaign season. After all, it worked so well against Clinton...

...oh, wait.
 
2013-01-14 08:41:26 PM  
Remember the 2000's?  Kuccinich did this at least once with Bush.  I think twice.

feckingmorons: None that I know of. However that is the chatter in the press theses days that an EO will be used to somehow change gun ownership, sale or registrations. I don't think it is possible, that is a wholly legislative arena.


It's not entirely up to the legislature.  The 1968 Gun Control Act (GCA '68 for short) left the definition of "sporting purposes" entirely up to the Executive's decision.  Stuff that is over .50" in barrel diameter (including 20 gauge and 12 gauge shotguns) have to be deemed to having a "sporting purpose" by the Executive to be legal.  Also, anything imported has to meet that definition too.  That wiggle room is what let Bush 41 ban importation of various semi-autos from European countries (mostly AK clones), what let Clinton cut off all semi-autos from China (but we can still get Norinco pump shotguns), and what let Bush 43 ban AK barrels (which f*cks up the whole parts kit thing) from Romania.

Not sure under which president it started but the ATF has a nifty 75 point system for imported handguns.  You can get bonus points for weight above a certain amount, being a larger caliber, having a grooved trigger (you know, important for sport shooting, not used on combat handguns) and for adjustable sights.  That's not an exhaustive list but you get the gist.  So, you take a 9mm Glock (say the 17) and it barely squeaks by.  In fact some models have to be shipped into the country with shiatty adjustable sights only to have them knocked out and replaced with the plastic standard Glock sights.  For "sporting purposes."  That's also why Glock triggers are grooved, and also why you don't ever see a .380 Glock in the US.  Being below 9mm they can't get enough points.  Not that it matters since nobody in the US would buy one, seeing as how they're the same size at the 9mm versions.  They basically only exist for the EU market where in many countries they can't have guns in "military" calibers so they end up with 9x17 (.380) or 9x21 (9mm Largo) instead of the NATO 9x19 (9mm Luger).

Gun laws make SO much sense.
 
2013-01-14 08:41:34 PM  
Minority Report 2: Electric Boogaloo
PreCrime - Black President Edition

We'll impeach you for things we think you might do. Also, for being black.
 
2013-01-14 08:42:03 PM  
So pretty much every decision they could get wrong after the election, they're getting wrong?
 
2013-01-14 08:42:03 PM  

winterbraid: it worked out pretty good for this guy:

[i43.tower.com image 200x300]


"High Adam's Apple and Sharp Knees: The Case Against Ann Being a Woman"
 
2013-01-14 08:44:01 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: What if legislation was passed to make it extremely difficult to manufacture firearms in the United States, like they do to abortion clinics in derp states? Then they jacked up import duties on firearms, making foreign guns very expensive. Keep 'em and bear 'em all you want. Good luck finding and buying 'em.

Would this create a constitutional conflict?


That's a fantastic idea. Congress and/or state legislatures should take up legislation requiring manufacturers and dealers to have large climate-controlled closets, wide halls, factory workers and salesmen with advanced metallurgical, chemistry, or physics degrees, etc.
 
2013-01-14 08:44:45 PM  
Well, it is possible that Obama has done something impeachment-worthy in relation to targeted killing of civilians, but I know the GOP wouldn't be up in arms over something that both actually happened and might actually be wrong, so it's probably some kind of stupid "takin' ar guns" nonsense.
 
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