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(Slate)   How likely is it Antonin Scalia will die in the next four years? Two liberals? Find out with the Supreme Court Justice Death Calculator   (slate.com) divider line 67
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2013-01-14 12:16:26 PM  
Well, that ain't morbid at all.
 
2013-01-14 12:37:34 PM  
This is an actuarial table.

Anyone who is outraged by this and DOESN'T support single payer health care can stuff their outrage up their asses.
 
2013-01-14 12:50:11 PM  
According to Virginia's statutory life expectancy table, having achieved the age of 76 years, Scalia's life expectancy is 9.9 years.
 
2013-01-14 01:10:09 PM  
DEATH PANEL!!1!


we warned you, libs
 
2013-01-14 01:26:04 PM  
I don't want to wish death on anyone, but I do hope that Scalia and Thomas both enjoy long retirements after stepping down as soon as possible.
 
2013-01-14 01:33:32 PM  

FloydA: I don't want to wish death on anyone, but I do hope that Scalia and Thomas both enjoy long retirements after stepping down as soon as possible.


Well, that makes you a better person than the Reverend Pat Robinson, who orchestrated something called a "Prayer assault" early in Bush's first term to have God open up some seats on the SCOTUS through "any means necessary".

"Prayer Assault". You're doing it wrong.
 
2013-01-14 01:43:40 PM  
Math's liberal bias strikes again.
 
2013-01-14 01:49:36 PM  
Sotomayor could get killed in a gang fight.
 
2013-01-14 01:55:10 PM  

kbronsito: Sotomayor could get killed in a gang fight.


...with Thomas
 
2013-01-14 01:55:14 PM  

FloydA: I don't want to wish death on anyone, but I do hope that Scalia and Thomas both enjoy long retirements after stepping down as soon as possible.


This.
 
2013-01-14 01:58:15 PM  

what_now: FloydA: I don't want to wish death on anyone, but I do hope that Scalia and Thomas both enjoy long retirements after stepping down as soon as possible.

Well, that makes you a better person than the Reverend Pat Robinson, who orchestrated something called a "Prayer assault" early in Bush's first term to have God open up some seats on the SCOTUS through "any means necessary".

"Prayer Assault". You're doing it wrong.


Apparently for some right-wing fundies, there's a thing called "imprecatory prayer" and it causes strip clubs to blow up.
 
2013-01-14 02:04:58 PM  
It's also weird that this thing says Scalia has a higher chance of dying than Ginsburg, which is odd considering Ginsburg is the one with colon and pancreatic cancer.
 
2013-01-14 02:30:38 PM  
It'll be amazing to see what will happen if a conservative member of the court passes. I have zero, none, no doubt at all that the GOP will demand that the "conservative seat" be replaced with another conservative, and the media will completely buy into it.
 
2013-01-14 02:37:03 PM  

RexTalionis: It's also weird that this thing says Scalia has a higher chance of dying than Ginsburg, which is odd considering Ginsburg is the one with colon and pancreatic cancer.


Not sure it applies but I read something about risk of death not correlated in linear way with age.  Apparently, certain ages (e.g. 50's & 60's) are high risk and once you get pass those ages your year-to-year risk of death is actually lower.
 
2013-01-14 02:37:20 PM  

what_now: FloydA: I don't want to wish death on anyone, but I do hope that Scalia and Thomas both enjoy long retirements after stepping down as soon as possible.

Well, that makes you a better person than the Reverend Pat Robinson,


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2013-01-14 02:43:31 PM  
sick.
 
2013-01-14 02:49:27 PM  
His contract with Satan runs through 2020.
 
2013-01-14 03:04:01 PM  

DamnYankees: It'll be amazing to see what will happen if a conservative member of the court passes. I have zero, none, no doubt at all that the GOP will demand that the "conservative seat" be replaced with another conservative, and the media will completely buy into it.


The Republicans will demand a conservative replace a liberal.

Because, you know, Obama.
 
2013-01-14 03:24:10 PM  

Ed Finnerty: His contract with Satan runs through 2020.


Thankfully the new CBA between the Prince of Darkness and God means he can be bought out after this season. Kind of like Wade Redden and the Blueshirts.

/Let's go Rangers
 
2013-01-14 03:32:13 PM  
May a meteor strike them all down, and we can be done with the idiocy of lifetime appointments
 
2013-01-14 03:40:57 PM  
Oh please oh please oh please

He's not fit to si ton that court, but apparently only god can take him off of it.
 
2013-01-14 03:41:40 PM  
FTFA That Clarence Thomas has the life expectancy of the average 62-year-old black man. Which is likely not true.

Have they seen the guy lately?  He's gained like 300lbs since he became a Justice.  He's a walking heart attack waiting to happen.
 
2013-01-14 03:41:42 PM  
His whole face looks like a plate of fat, cheesy pasta. Most of us would be dead had we consumed the crap he puts in his mouth over a life time. He'll out live the next two presidents (at least) for the same reason Dickhead Cheney is still kicking.
 
2013-01-14 03:47:20 PM  

RexTalionis: It's also weird that this thing says Scalia has a higher chance of dying than Ginsburg, which is odd considering Ginsburg is the one with colon and pancreatic cancer.


I don't think they are factoring that it, it is just the average odds of someone their gender, age and race will die in the next four years.
 
2013-01-14 03:50:16 PM  

Lost Thought 00: May a meteor strike them all down, and we can be done with the idiocy of lifetime appointments


While I agree with this point I don't understand the hate for Scalia, it comes from people who don't understand the law. I think Scalia is a political hack but it remains a fact that he is responsible for some of the most liberal opinions of the last two decades, especially in the field of criminal law. Sure I realize that these aren't hot button issues like gay rights. But the most conservative member of the court is not Scalia but Alito.
 
2013-01-14 03:57:26 PM  
Odds are at least one Supreme Court Justice will die in the next four years. President Obama surely knows this. And when the American public voted last November, they surely knew it, too.


BWAHAHAhahAHahAHAHAHAhAHAHahAhahAHAHahaha

Informed voters. That's precious.
 
2013-01-14 03:57:30 PM  

gingerjet: FTFA That Clarence Thomas has the life expectancy of the average 62-year-old black man. Which is likely not true.

Have they seen the guy lately?  He's gained like 300lbs since he became a Justice.  He's a walking heart attack waiting to happen.


Thomas will live into his seventies. It's not like he has the same worries and stresses that another sixty-two-year-old walking blimp factory possesses. Thomas just sits there on the court, pretends that he is paying attention to cases and says nothing.

Besides, if Thomas ever feels the Grim Reaper approaching, he will just siphon some life-force from Scalia's wrinkly scrotum in order to carry him through the ordeal.
 
2013-01-14 03:57:47 PM  

worlddan: Lost Thought 00: May a meteor strike them all down, and we can be done with the idiocy of lifetime appointments

While I agree with this point I don't understand the hate for Scalia, it comes from people who don't understand the law. I think Scalia is a political hack but it remains a fact that he is responsible for some of the most liberal opinions of the last two decades, especially in the field of criminal law. Sure I realize that these aren't hot button issues like gay rights. But the most conservative member of the court is not Scalia but Alito.


I'm pretty sure a lot of lawyers think Scalia is a schmuck, too.
 
2013-01-14 04:06:51 PM  

kbronsito: Sotomayor could get killed in a gang fight.


I thought she liked flowers, and music, and white chicks named "Debbie", too.
 
2013-01-14 04:11:39 PM  

RexTalionis: worlddan: Lost Thought 00: May a meteor strike them all down, and we can be done with the idiocy of lifetime appointments

While I agree with this point I don't understand the hate for Scalia, it comes from people who don't understand the law. I think Scalia is a political hack but it remains a fact that he is responsible for some of the most liberal opinions of the last two decades, especially in the field of criminal law. Sure I realize that these aren't hot button issues like gay rights. But the most conservative member of the court is not Scalia but Alito.

I'm pretty sure a lot of lawyers think Scalia is a schmuck, too.


Age is turning him into a massive schmuck. He's reasoning is becoming more internally inconsistent on "hot button" issues in the last 7-10 years (Romer's big and fabulous gay conspiracy notwithstanding) and I think his vitriol at interviewers reflects his self-awareness of his loss of "judicial restraint."

why yes, IAAL
 
2013-01-14 04:17:06 PM  

worlddan: Lost Thought 00: May a meteor strike them all down, and we can be done with the idiocy of lifetime appointments

While I agree with this point I don't understand the hate for Scalia, it comes from people who don't understand the law. I think Scalia is a political hack but it remains a fact that he is responsible for some of the most liberal opinions of the last two decades, especially in the field of criminal law. Sure I realize that these aren't hot button issues like gay rights. But the most conservative member of the court is not Scalia but Alito.


Much of what you say is true. The fact remains, however, that his written opinions will always be the most infuriating (sometimes, even if you agree with his result), and he's the most intellectually dishonest (he's a skilled sophist). He's a pretty easy guy to loathe.
 
2013-01-14 04:27:33 PM  

Solon Isonomia: why yes, IAAL


So am I.
 
2013-01-14 04:31:09 PM  

Solon Isonomia: Age is turning him into a massive schmuck. He's reasoning is becoming more internally inconsistent on "hot button" issues in the last 7-10 years (Romer's big and fabulous gay conspiracy notwithstanding) and I think his vitriol at interviewers reflects his self-awareness of his loss of "judicial restraint."


By the way, did you read Posner's review of Scalia's book? Boy, he really handed Scalia his ass.
 
2013-01-14 04:37:06 PM  

RexTalionis: So am I.


Yep, I remembered - I just enjoy being coy with that acronym.

RexTalionis: By the way, did you read Posner's review of Scalia's book? Boy, he really handed Scalia his ass.


I have not - off to the intratubes to find it!
 
2013-01-14 04:41:02 PM  

Solon Isonomia: RexTalionis: By the way, did you read Posner's review of Scalia's book? Boy, he really handed Scalia his ass.

I have not - off to the intratubes to find it!


http://www.tnr.com/article/magazine/books-and-arts/106441/scalia-gar ne r-reading-the-law-textual-originalism
 
2013-01-14 04:55:19 PM  

RexTalionis: Solon Isonomia: RexTalionis: By the way, did you read Posner's review of Scalia's book? Boy, he really handed Scalia his ass.

I have not - off to the intratubes to find it!

http://www.tnr.com/article/magazine/books-and-arts/106441/scalia-gar ne r-reading-the-law-textual-originalism


Holy crap did Posner do a number on him. I always found his efficient breach doctrine to be a little contrary to the concept of contracts, but there is no doubt he has a keen legal mind and an ability to express it well. I particularly enjoyed his incredulity at the Kansas Supreme Court and how it led him to double-check Scalia's cited cases.
 
2013-01-14 04:57:29 PM  
So whats the odds on one of them choking to dath on someone elses vomit?
 
2013-01-14 04:57:44 PM  

Solon Isonomia: RexTalionis: Solon Isonomia: RexTalionis: By the way, did you read Posner's review of Scalia's book? Boy, he really handed Scalia his ass.

I have not - off to the intratubes to find it!

http://www.tnr.com/article/magazine/books-and-arts/106441/scalia-gar ne r-reading-the-law-textual-originalism

Holy crap did Posner do a number on him. I always found his efficient breach doctrine to be a little contrary to the concept of contracts, but there is no doubt he has a keen legal mind and an ability to express it well. I particularly enjoyed his incredulity at the Kansas Supreme Court and how it led him to double-check Scalia's cited cases.


Reading that brought a little smile to my face.
 
2013-01-14 05:02:36 PM  
While I try to avoid wishing death on anybody if one of the more conservative judges where to slip into a coma or decide to retire I would completely support such a decisions. I can easily see a scenario in which 2016 see a Republican elected president and gets to replace 3 judges during his term because so many of the conservative judges have decided to stay on since they don't want to give their seat to a liberal.
 
2013-01-14 05:32:17 PM  

Anenu: While I try to avoid wishing death on anybody if one of the more conservative judges where to slip into a coma or decide to retire I would completely support such a decisions. I can easily see a scenario in which 2016 see a Republican elected president and gets to replace 3 judges during his term because so many of the conservative judges have decided to stay on since they don't want to give their seat to a liberal.


Sadly, I can see that too. Some of the codgers on the court refuse to pass the torch until they get to help pick a replacement (or at least offer a solid recommendation to a like-minded spirit). Which, of course, only politicizes the court even more.

I'd support a Constitutional amendment saying 20 years after the President that appointed you is out of office is an automatic retirement. The individual would be a justice emeritus and allowed to present cases to the court or offer counsel on pending cases, but all communication would be noted and publicly available.
 
2013-01-14 05:35:17 PM  
How likely is it Antonin Scalia will die in the next four years?

....I bet you dangle tasty bacon in front of homeless folks too.
 
2013-01-14 05:35:37 PM  

Lumpmoose: what_now: FloydA: I don't want to wish death on anyone, but I do hope that Scalia and Thomas both enjoy long retirements after stepping down as soon as possible.

Well, that makes you a better person than the Reverend Pat Robinson, who orchestrated something called a "Prayer assault" early in Bush's first term to have God open up some seats on the SCOTUS through "any means necessary".

"Prayer Assault". You're doing it wrong.

Apparently for some right-wing fundies, there's a thing called "imprecatory prayer" and it causes strip clubs to blow up.


Flame Strike
Evocation [Fire]

Level: Clr 5, Drd 4, Sun 5, War 5
Components:V, S, DF
Casting Time:1 standard action
Range:Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Area:Cylinder (10-ft. radius, 40 ft. high)
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw:Reflex half
Spell Resistance:Yes

A flame strike produces a vertical column of divine fire roaring downward. The spell deals 1d6 points of damage per caster level (maximum 15d6). Half the damage is fire damage, but the other half results directly from divine power and is therefore not subject to being reduced by resistance to fire-based attacks.
 
2013-01-14 05:41:06 PM  

Taylor Mental: His whole face looks like a plate of fat, cheesy pasta. Most of us would be dead had we consumed the crap he puts in his mouth over a life time. He'll out live the next two presidents (at least) for the same reason Dickhead Cheney is still kicking.


It is the political equilvalent of Montley Crue.
 
2013-01-14 05:51:58 PM  
Are we talking "dead" dead or "Cheney" dead? Long after you and I are gone, Cheney will be a zombie war profiteer.

/Now that's not a guy that profits from zombie wars. That's a zombie that's a war profiteer.
 
2013-01-14 05:52:08 PM  
When death is the one sure way of an unpopular person leaving an appointed position, I cannot feel guilty about wishing about that person dying.  I'm always hoping that two or three of these judges die soon. I figure that many felt the same about members of royalty over the centuries, which is why so many countries enacted laws against wishing death upon their royalty. I've never wished death upon a President or other elected official because I know they'll be up for re-election or out completely in a predetermined time.
 
2013-01-14 05:57:25 PM  
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2013-01-14 06:01:17 PM  
If both DOMA and gay marriage bans get overturned, Scalia is going to quit. He'll write in his farewell address that the Homosexual Agenda has been accomplished.

Meanwhile Robert Bork will be seen smiling from heaven.
 
2013-01-14 06:30:36 PM  

The probability of at least Scalia and Thomas and Alito and Kennedy dying by 2017:
0.01%


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/I keed
 
2013-01-14 06:43:29 PM  

FloydA: I don't want to wish death on anyone, but I do hope that Scalia and Thomas both enjoy long retirements after stepping down as soon as possible.


I'm more worried with them alive and not on the bench than alive and on the bench. Without the handcuffs of being a Supreme Court justice, I can see those two rascals making some serious havoc on everything.

/Best if they just left the mortal coils right now
//Not a claim that I will be aiding in any way to achieve said effect
 
2013-01-14 06:54:14 PM  

gingerjet: FTFA That Clarence Thomas has the life expectancy of the average 62-year-old black man. Which is likely not true.

Have they seen the guy lately?  He's gained like 300lbs since he became a Justice.  He's a walking heart attack waiting to happen.


He's not really that huge. He is super short though, probably not even 5' 7". When I met him I was wearing heels that put me around 5'10" or 5'11" and I was towering over him.
 
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