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(USA Today)   Boeing 787suffers another bout with incontinence   (usatoday.com) divider line 19
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2013-01-14 11:08:54 AM  
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2013-01-14 11:21:07 AM  
As I said in the last Dreamliner thread, I'm on one of these to Tokyo on Friday. Should something happen, I want my login to live on as Drew's official sockpuppet.
 
2013-01-14 11:53:36 AM  
Airbus must *really* be spreading around the payola for this media blitz. This stuff happens with every damned new airliner, evar. It's only a real problem when one decides to fall out of the sky over the Atlantic.
 
2013-01-14 12:48:09 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Airbus must *really* be spreading around the payola for this media blitz. This stuff happens with every damned new airliner, evar. It's only a real problem when one decides to fall out of the sky over the Atlantic.


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2013-01-14 12:54:07 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Airbus must *really* be spreading around the payola for this media blitz. This stuff happens with every damned new airliner, evar. It's only a real problem when one decides to fall out of the sky over the Atlantic.


You mean are taking a page out of Boeing's "scarebus" book?
 
2013-01-14 01:10:10 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: It's only a real problem when one decides to fall out of the sky over the Atlantic.


I say, "Let 'em crash!"
 
2013-01-14 01:13:05 PM  
airplanes are suppose to mark their territory...
 
2013-01-14 01:30:53 PM  
You'd think with all the delays and cost overruns, they would have done better in building the entire thing here instead of incurring all the manufacturing errors caused by farming it all out based on lowest cost labor.

Funny thing, if you employ more Americans art home to feed a healthy middle class, they have more expendable income to travel on your product.

Nah.
 
2013-01-14 02:43:32 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Airbus must *really* be spreading around the payola for this media blitz. This stuff happens with every damned new airliner, evar. It's only a real problem when one decides to fall out of the sky over the Atlantic.


Like the 737s over the Pacific from Alaska that pitched into the sea because of a fault with the elevators? Or the 777's tendency to have catastrophic engine stalls on takeoff? Or the MD-11s tendency to have statistically more fatal crashes then other widebodies due to it flipping upside down on landing incidents?

Every plane has quirks. Every plane manufacturer knows about them and deals with them appropriately. Every commercial airliner built since the 70s has been safer then your average car. The problem is with the pilots. European pilots are not given basic stall and spin training, rather being stremed by aviation colleges straight into big jet twin IFR positions. Your average American/Canadian pilot has years and years of experience (1500+ hours of actual flying) before being put in charge of the heavy iron. There are some European and especially asian carriers that have inexperienced pilots flying for them. People who don't know the basics of stall and spin recovery and frankly can't fly worth a damn.
 
2013-01-14 07:20:54 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Airbus must *really* be spreading around the payola for this media blitz. This stuff happens with every damned new airliner, evar. It's only a real problem when one decides to fall out of the sky over the Atlantic.


How about over the Pacific? I'm flying to Australia next month...
 
2013-01-14 09:19:42 PM  

Beeblebrox: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Airbus must *really* be spreading around the payola for this media blitz. This stuff happens with every damned new airliner, evar. It's only a real problem when one decides to fall out of the sky over the Atlantic.

How about over the Pacific? I'm flying to Australia next month...


You'll make it over the Pacific just fine; they don't want to compete with the hundreds of other things that can kill you once you reach Australia.
 
2013-01-14 09:36:09 PM  

Seequinn: Beeblebrox: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Airbus must *really* be spreading around the payola for this media blitz. This stuff happens with every damned new airliner, evar. It's only a real problem when one decides to fall out of the sky over the Atlantic.

How about over the Pacific? I'm flying to Australia next month...

You'll make it over the Pacific just fine; they don't want to compete with the hundreds of other things that can kill you once you reach Australia.


I got to volume 14 of "Things in Australia that will Kill You" and decided instead to read the pamphlet "Harmless Spiders and Snakes in Australia".
 
2013-01-14 09:42:51 PM  

lohphat: You'd think with all the delays and cost overruns, they would have done better in building the entire thing here instead of incurring all the manufacturing errors caused by farming it all out based on lowest cost labor.

Funny thing, if you employ more Americans art home to feed a healthy middle class, they have more expendable income to travel on your product.

Nah.


The 787 was phase I of Boeing's "crush teh unions!" corporate policy. Can't wait for when they outsource the engineering and in-house machine work to Uzbekistan.
 
2013-01-14 10:21:26 PM  

whither_apophis: lohphat: You'd think with all the delays and cost overruns, they would have done better in building the entire thing here instead of incurring all the manufacturing errors caused by farming it all out based on lowest cost labor.

Funny thing, if you employ more Americans art home to feed a healthy middle class, they have more expendable income to travel on your product.

Nah.

The 787 was phase I of Boeing's "crush teh unions!" corporate policy. Can't wait for when they outsource the engineering and in-house machine work to Uzbekistan.


No. That was the 777.

Funny you never hear them outsourcing the Cxx-level executives.
 
2013-01-14 11:08:45 PM  

tiiger: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Airbus must *really* be spreading around the payola for this media blitz. This stuff happens with every damned new airliner, evar. It's only a real problem when one decides to fall out of the sky over the Atlantic.

Like the 737s over the Pacific from Alaska that pitched into the sea because of a fault with the elevators?


There was a single MD-80 that had the horizontal stabilizer snap off ... but nothing about 737s going in due to faulty elevators that I'm aware of.
 
2013-01-14 11:25:32 PM  

fredbox: tiiger: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Airbus must *really* be spreading around the payola for this media blitz. This stuff happens with every damned new airliner, evar. It's only a real problem when one decides to fall out of the sky over the Atlantic.

Like the 737s over the Pacific from Alaska that pitched into the sea because of a fault with the elevators?

There was a single MD-80 that had the horizontal stabilizer snap off ... but nothing about 737s going in due to faulty elevators that I'm aware of.


Ah Alaska Airlines Flight 261 an MD-83. The infamous worn jackscrew assembly.
 
2013-01-14 11:37:29 PM  
SacriliciousBeerSwiller


Airbus must *really* be spreading around the payola for this media blitz. This stuff happens with every damned new airliner, evar. It's only a real problem when one decides to fall out of the sky over the Atlantic.

No, I don't think I'll ever get over the Atlantic.....
/and he lost it?
//how he came unglued?
 
2013-01-15 02:55:16 AM  
Normal teeth problems my ass, some odd small glitches and stuff, sure. Leaking fuel? Two different planes? Yeah, no.
 
2013-01-15 10:15:47 PM  

astro716: As I said in the last Dreamliner thread, I'm on one of these to Tokyo on Friday. Should something happen, I want my login to live on as Drew's official sockpuppet.


...or maybe not. If you're flying Nippon - they just grounded all 787s.
 
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