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(SFGate)   Alcatraz tower defaced by graffiti. This IS a repeat from 1969   (sfgate.com) divider line 44
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2013-01-14 11:17:02 AM
It was probably Graham Bonnet.

/He's not doing much these days.
 
2013-01-14 11:20:35 AM
" Arbeit Macht Frei " ??
 
2013-01-14 11:23:11 AM
The Rez IS a prison.
 
2013-01-14 11:29:34 AM
www.filmapia.com

Butts was here
 
2013-01-14 11:30:00 AM
The signs were restored six weeks ago by Eloy Martinez, a Ute
 
2013-01-14 11:30:15 AM
What so now we're celebrating the actions of criminals?
 
2013-01-14 11:32:08 AM
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dryknife: The signs were restored six weeks ago by Eloy Martinez, a Ute


www.jonathanlynn.com
 
2013-01-14 11:32:32 AM

dryknife: a Ute


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-14 11:36:31 AM
Ok I know it's a gov contract but who approves 1.5m for an water tower restoration. I've seen what 1.5 million can build. What the fark. It's CA, just get some mexicans with some grinders and then repaint the f'n thing.
 
2013-01-14 11:41:03 AM
Only 15 people were left on Alcatraz when the government retook the island and evicted them in June 1971.


Who cares. We just buy new land and CALL it sacred. With cash like this, who's going to argue? Nobody, that's who.
 
2013-01-14 11:42:31 AM
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2013-01-14 11:50:34 AM
Signed, Elroy was here.
 
2013-01-14 11:56:03 AM
And here are some pictures from really far away so you can't really see what's written on the tower.
 
2013-01-14 11:58:07 AM

dryknife: Signed, Elroy was here.


you mean Kilroy?
 
2013-01-14 11:58:17 AM

Rufus Lee King: "Rehabilitating" the water tower cost $1.5 million?

Heap lotta wampum. Perhaps use better elsewhere.


Alteast when I lived out there a considerable amount of the restoration cost were paid by film crews for access to the island.
 
2013-01-14 11:58:33 AM

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That show would still be on the air if they had done a faster job of explaining what was going on.  You can only do glacial, LOST-style pacing once.  They also blew it by making the show a procedural with a token three minutes each week dedicated to the overall story arc.
 
2013-01-14 11:58:35 AM
The utes were selling pottery to tourists all over america illegally. Thats why you see the no ute urns everywhere.
 
2013-01-14 12:02:46 PM
Some interesting stuff about Kilroy

During World War II he worked at the http://www.ask.com/wiki/Fore_River_Shipyard?qsrc=3044" title="Fore River Shipyard">Fore River Shipyard in http://www.ask.com/wiki/Quincy,_Massachusetts?qsrc=3044" title="Quincy, Massachusetts">Quincy, Massachusetts, where he claimed to have used the phrase to mark rivets he had checked. The builders, whose rivets J.J. Kilroy was counting, were paid depending on the number of rivets they put in. A riveter would make a chalk mark at the end of his or her shift to show where they had left off and the next riveter had started. Unscrupulous riveters discovered that, if they started work before the inspector arrived, they could receive extra pay by erasing the previous worker's chalk mark and chalking a mark farther back on the same seam, giving themselves credit for some of the previous riveter's work. J.J. Kilroy stopped this practice by writing "Kilroy was here" at the site of each chalk mark. At the time, ships were being sent out before they had been painted, so when sealed areas were opened for maintenance, soldiers found an unexplained name scrawled. Thousands of servicemen may have potentially seen his slogan on the outgoing ships and Kilroy's apparent omnipresence and inscrutability sparked a legend. The slogan began to be regarded as proof that a ship had been checked well, and as a kind of protective talisman.http://www.ask.com/wiki/Kilroy_was_here?o=3986&qsrc=999#cite _note-quin ion-4">[5]http://www.ask.com/wiki/Kilroy_was_here?o=3986&qsrc=999#cite _note-bost on-17">[18] Afterwards, servicemen began placing the slogan on different places and especially in newly captured areas or landings, and the phrase took on connotations of the presence or protection of the US armed force
 
2013-01-14 12:03:41 PM

jackiepaper: dryknife: Signed, Elroy was here.

you mean Kilroy?


No; Elroy.

Elroy Martinez.

The Ute.
 
2013-01-14 12:12:26 PM

strangeguitar: It was probably Graham Bonnet.

/He's not doing much these days.


It's a shame, considering he's got a great singing voice.
 
2013-01-14 12:16:47 PM

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I thought that was a decent show. I liked the premise. That chick was a cutie too!
 
2013-01-14 12:24:51 PM

blackhonda: The utes were selling pottery to tourists all over america illegally. Thats why you see the no ute urns everywhere.


*cringe*
 
2013-01-14 12:30:27 PM

ChipNASA: dryknife: a Ute

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Were there two of them?
 
2013-01-14 12:32:38 PM

strangeguitar: It was probably Graham Bonnet.

/He's not doing much these days.


Then who makes all the tasty *TASTY* crackers? ELVES?!?!
 
2013-01-14 12:47:23 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Unavailable for comment:

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Oh, I think they're all available.
 
2013-01-14 12:51:27 PM
The project took nearly a year and cost $1.5 million.


leave it to the government to fix up some graffiti for $1.5M and a year of time.
 
2013-01-14 01:11:19 PM
Indian occupation from the winter of 1969 to the spring of 1971

Two years? They took over the island for two years and they're restoring all their graffiti? I thought there was an ancient burial ground there or something.
 
2013-01-14 01:26:50 PM
thats not fair!
when my great-great-grandfather was on ellis island
he carved his name in and was told he can't do that
but it was into other immigrants so they let it continue for a while
and still not one of them got back in touch
but painting a building what no respect?
then to repaint......govt does what it wants to
 
2013-01-14 01:40:47 PM
Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'.
 
2013-01-14 01:44:45 PM

dryknife: jackiepaper: dryknife: Signed, Elroy was here.

you mean Kilroy?

No; Elroy.

Elroy Martinez.

The Ute.


The youth?
 
2013-01-14 02:13:54 PM

Onkel Buck: OtherLittleGuy: Unavailable for comment:

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I thought that was a decent show. I liked the premise. That chick was a cutie too!


Ditto
I thought it was decent also.
And they probably replaced it with some reality dancing with the rehab stars reality show.
America the stupid.
 
2013-01-14 02:16:39 PM

WTP 2: thats not fair!
when my great-great-grandfather was on ellis island
he carved his name in and was told he can't do that
but it was into other immigrants so they let it continue for a while
and still not one of them got back in touch
but painting a building what no respect?
then to repaint......govt does what it wants to


What???
 
2013-01-14 02:28:48 PM
If my family had gotten out to Oakland sooner than they did, I might have been born on the Rock instead of here in Oklahoma, but we did have a couple of relatives as part of the occupation. If my Ma was still around, I could probably get all sorts of info from her about it.
 
2013-01-14 02:29:32 PM

justanotherfarkinfarker: Ok I know it's a gov contract but who approves 1.5m for an water tower restoration. I've seen what 1.5 million can build. What the fark. It's CA, just get some mexicans with some grinders and then repaint the f'n thing.


The federal government has to do things on the books. Otherwise the free market would prevail and they could use illegal labor that pays a sub par wage--like everyone else in CA that hires the service/construction industry.
 
2013-01-14 03:26:35 PM

the_end_is_rear: Onkel Buck: OtherLittleGuy: Unavailable for comment:

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I thought that was a decent show. I liked the premise. That chick was a cutie too!

Ditto
I thought it was decent also.
And they probably replaced it with some reality dancing with the rehab stars reality show.
America the stupid.


But you get to judge and vote on people on those shows, that's the best power trip ever! Who needs imagination and good stories when you can smash peoples dreams by simply texting in your vote?
 
2013-01-14 04:06:36 PM

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: [www.filmapia.com image 500x268]

Butts was here


Now, that guy knew how to deface an Alcatraz tower.
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/did I say deface? I meant behead
 
2013-01-14 04:33:42 PM

Mugato: Indian occupation from the winter of 1969 to the spring of 1971

Two years? They took over the island for two years and they're restoring all their graffiti? I thought there was an ancient burial ground there or something.


There's also a small matter of a few thousand years prior to the feds claiming imminent domain.
 
2013-01-14 04:41:37 PM
This article doesn't explain what the occupation was all about, nor the reasoning the natives used to assert rights to the land. "According to the IAT, the Treaty of Fort Laramie (1868) between the U.S. and the Sioux returned all retired, abandoned or out-of-use federal land to the Native people from whom it was acquired. Since Alcatraz penitentiary had been closed on March 21, 1963, and the island had been declared surplus federal property in 1964, a number of Red Power activists felt the island qualified for a reclamation." Wiki
 
2013-01-14 05:50:48 PM
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2013-01-14 06:01:55 PM

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Thread wan't complete without the original.
 
2013-01-14 06:03:06 PM

NorCalLos: Mugato: Indian occupation from the winter of 1969 to the spring of 1971

Two years? They took over the island for two years and they're restoring all their graffiti? I thought there was an ancient burial ground there or something.

There's also a small matter of a few thousand years prior to the feds claiming imminent domain.


So why are you talkin' about old shiat?
 
2013-01-14 06:56:56 PM
Alcatraz was cancelled too early. I really wanted to see the shows two biggest mysteries revealed.

chevronone.com
 
2013-01-14 09:00:45 PM
I have seen the graffiti first-hand, like a lot of you. It is so pathetic that it might as likely still be there just to mock the idiots who occupied the island. It looks like 6th graders took over the place.
 
2013-01-14 10:43:33 PM
The fourth picture in their little slideshow there is just awesome.  I don't know why but.
 
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