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(The Day)   A month after the shooting, residents of Newtown struggle to decide what exactly to do with Sandy Hook Elementary School   (theday.com) divider line 78
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2013-01-14 09:59:41 AM
12 votes:

kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.


I say the opposite. Remodel it, and reopen it. To do otherwise would mean Lanza *WON*, even in death. Place a plaque somewhere, rename it after the principal, whatever you feel you need to memorialize those who died, but DO NOT bulldoze it. That would just encourage others to attack schools, knowing they'd get their little piece of infamy if they just tried hard enough.
2013-01-14 09:42:51 AM
12 votes:
How about using it as a school?

Is Columbine High still a school? How about Virginia Tech?
2013-01-14 09:25:32 AM
8 votes:
Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon
2013-01-14 10:22:55 AM
5 votes:
I don't know what they should do with it other than not listen to Fark about what to do with it.
2013-01-14 09:22:56 AM
5 votes:
I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.
2013-01-14 09:17:27 AM
5 votes:
It's a tough call.  All I can really say is it's entirely their business what they decide to do with it.
2013-01-14 10:04:48 AM
4 votes:
Well, it's already set up perfectly to be a school... How about therapy for those that need it and everyone else can get the fark on with their lives. Not every tragedy needs knee jerk reactions.
2013-01-14 12:39:07 PM
3 votes:
America. Home of the super pussies.

It's a school. Get back to schooling.
2013-01-14 11:02:31 AM
3 votes:
Turn it into a mental health facility.
2013-01-14 11:00:05 AM
3 votes:
How about return it to a school.

Like the next freaking day.

shiat happens Timmy. We move on.

Lets continue to raise a nation of fear consumed, scared, pill popper kids that think wheb tragedy happens you need to bulldoze it.

Lets remove all the gravestones in Arlington Nat'l so we don't need to think about the loss of brave men in war.

Fricken' Nancies.
2013-01-14 10:43:22 AM
3 votes:
I say they need to get over themselves, people in the middle east go through worse on a weekly or even daily basis.
2013-01-14 10:32:18 AM
3 votes:
kcoombs69: " Now they're Just Asking Questions®"

Funny how the people "Just Asking Questions" always seem to be the ones who don't actually listen to any answers.
2013-01-14 10:31:20 AM
3 votes:
"I have two children who had everything taken from them," said Audrey Bart, whose children attend the school but weren't injured in the shooting.

Is it just me or is this lady a selfish c-word? This reads as a HUGE F you to all the parents who DID actually lose kids in the shooting...
2013-01-14 10:29:32 AM
3 votes:
How about remodeling it, but for the next batch of elementary school kids. Don't make the ones who were there go back.
2013-01-14 10:28:25 AM
3 votes:

kvinesknows: patch it up, reopen it


This. The idea to level the place is silly. It be like suggesting they level Manhattan because some nut jobs damaged it and killed a bunch of people. If you cave in on every attack and act of violence, the world would get nowhere.
2013-01-14 10:24:02 AM
3 votes:
I guess using it as a school is too obvious?

So we're starting to martyr inanimate objects now?
2013-01-14 10:01:14 AM
3 votes:

colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon


This.
2013-01-14 09:31:46 AM
3 votes:

kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.


colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon


See, there's the problem.  Those are both valid opinions.  The Amish bulldozed the schoolhouse after the horrible shooting there.  Conversely, I believe Columbine is still open (or am I wrong on that?).  Either school of thought is valid, and at the same time either option really sucks.
2013-01-14 09:49:24 PM
2 votes:

Wulfman: Came to see ignorant suggestions from people with no connection to the community. Leaving very satisfied.


Even if you're in the community. You can't reasonably argue for the destruction of public property because it makes you feel sad.
2013-01-14 11:29:57 AM
2 votes:

colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon


Honor it. Memorialize it. And fill it with children again so the hallways echo with laughter instead of sorrow.
2013-01-14 11:05:17 AM
2 votes:
"They've been moved to a school building about seven miles away in a neighboring town that has been renamed Sandy Hook Elementary School."

Moving the students away from a location where a traumatic event took place then renaming the new location after the old location seems... oxymoronic.
2013-01-14 10:49:44 AM
2 votes:
If we're going to tear down every place that has a shooting, one day the U.S. will run out of buildings.
2013-01-14 10:41:58 AM
2 votes:
Mop it out and reopen it.
2013-01-14 10:41:44 AM
2 votes:

PrivateCaboose: Fark_Guy_Rob: I know a lot of people are going to want it torn down or made into something that would make an interesting social statement....

but it seems it would be best suited to be a school. Ya know, since that is what it is. Clean it up, repair it, it's good as new.

I think the problem would be the kids who, you know, witnessed their friends getting murdered. That whole "PTSD" thing is probably worse when you're 7 years old.


If I witnessed my friends getting murdered I don't think I'd really care much about the building where it happened.
I'd also suspect that elementary schools look really darn similar. I had a summer gig cleaning schools so I've been to every elementary and junior high school in my district; and they all feel the same.

I don't see how tearing down one generic elementary building and putting up another is going to solve any problems.
2013-01-14 10:39:14 AM
2 votes:
""We have our best childhood memories at Sandy Hook Elementary School, and I don't believe that one psychopath should get away with taking away any more than he did on Dec 14," he said."


THIS!!!!!
2013-01-14 10:33:58 AM
2 votes:
Dr.Mxyzptlk.: After the Amish school shooting they quietly tore down the building and rebuilt a new school.

That's because the Amish are the human equivalent of Doozers.
2013-01-14 10:32:01 AM
2 votes:
FTFA: "I have two children who had everything taken from them," said Audrey Bart, whose children attend the school but weren't injured in the shooting.

Oh for fark's sake ...
2013-01-14 10:28:15 AM
2 votes:
Waste of a perfectly good school, massive waste of taxpayer dollars if they don't keep using it.

Kids are resilient, much more than we let them be in the media.
2013-01-14 10:15:05 AM
2 votes:

kid_icarus: Hmm...I think you might could argue that leaving the school intact (in any capacity) would only help further his infamy. It would become an almost local legend...that place where THAT happened. It would help immortalize his evil deed. But if the building is gone...there's nothing tangible to tie to the event. I think it could be forgotten easier, and deny him any ongoing notoriety in the future.


Or even possibly opening up the thought of doing it again in that particular school in some nutjob's mind.

There really aren't any right answers here.
2013-01-14 09:16:29 AM
2 votes:
I read the NRA wants to turn it into a rifle range.

//too soon?
2013-01-14 10:24:04 PM
1 votes:

Wulfman: Came to see ignorant suggestions from people with no connection to the community. Leaving very satisfied.


Came to hear pussies whine. Not disappointed.
2013-01-14 09:35:09 PM
1 votes:

BigNumber12: irreverend mother: How did we go from being the country that won WWI and WWII to being a bunch of cowards?


Feelings and lawyers.


Women being allowed to vote.

Which was soon followed by allowing women to. drive. Both huge disasters.

Then follow them up with employment legislation, the Great Society, and the mass importation of the third world's undesirables, and you have a perfect recipe for the pussification of a country.
2013-01-14 03:18:02 PM
1 votes:
People really need to man up here. Clean it up, patch the bullet holes. Open it.

How the hell did Europe ever clean up after WWII? Imagine if they had to re-demolish everything and only build parks?
2013-01-14 03:04:28 PM
1 votes:
2013-01-14 01:06:01 PM
1 votes:
What happened to America? When did we start running away from our own ugliness?

"Bulldoze it." How asinine.

Clean it up. Paint it. Send them back to school.

Stop raising wimps.
2013-01-14 01:01:24 PM
1 votes:

Dr._Michael_Hfuhruhurr: America. Home of the super pussies.

It's a school. Get back to schooling.


AMEN.
2013-01-14 12:45:46 PM
1 votes:
When a Starfleet cadet was killed during a training flight shortly before graduation, there was talk that they should postpone the commencement activities. But ultimately they decided that it was important to teach the students that life must go on in spite of tragedy.

Keep the school as is.
2013-01-14 12:45:11 PM
1 votes:

unLurked: Good God there are a lot of trolls in here.

But, to be perfectly clear: our town, our kids' school, Fark You, we'll decide.


waaaaa

shut up. You want the wolds sympathy, support and outrage you damn well better welcome the worlds opinion on the matter to.
2013-01-14 12:44:33 PM
1 votes:
I say re-open the school as-is, allow the students who don't want to return to transfer elsewhere, and let the returning students decide if/how to honor their fallen classmates. Getting students involved in creating a memorial garden or something could go a long way towards healing.
2013-01-14 12:34:56 PM
1 votes:
Good God there are a lot of trolls in here.

But, to be perfectly clear: our town, our kids' school, Fark You, we'll decide.
2013-01-14 12:32:19 PM
1 votes:
Clean it.
Paint it.
Get on with it.
2013-01-14 12:26:00 PM
1 votes:
The Sandy Hook Center for Second Amendment Rights
2013-01-14 12:22:05 PM
1 votes:
Have a gun show as a fund raiser, remodel it, problem solved.
2013-01-14 12:20:30 PM
1 votes:
use it as a school again.

didn't people sling around a quote: "the terrorists win if we can't return to our normal lives."

if we keep cordoning off every building or street that is shot up, where will we live? it sounds a bit callous but they (the children and educators) are gone and we're here.
2013-01-14 12:02:48 PM
1 votes:
Reopen it, tear down the buildings where people were killed, remodel those sections with a garden or some other memorial, and move on. Allow kids who don't want to go back to that location the ability to transfer permanently to another school in the district. These kids are looking to the adults in their community for an example of how to act in the face of tragedy. If we wring our hands and refuse to use the school again, we are teaching them that the proper reaction is to be a whiny little coward that runs from terrible things instead of confronting them head-on. I'd be scared to death to go back if I were a child there, but doing so we teach me some valuable life lessons about courage and integrity.
2013-01-14 11:15:57 AM
1 votes:
www.utexas.edu

Bad things happen just about everywhere. Sack up and move on.

People want to fetishize the site of politically-valuable events so they can continue to extract political value from them. Shocker.
2013-01-14 11:15:16 AM
1 votes:
It's just a building. Hose it out, patch up the holes, and reopen it.
2013-01-14 11:08:08 AM
1 votes:

valar_morghulis: Turn it into a memorial, with a ticker running up the number of American gun deaths since the incident.


And count only those like the ones in that school, who could not legally fire back.
2013-01-14 11:07:48 AM
1 votes:

kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.


I disagree. Their kids, their community, their school, their call. We who do not live there don't have the right to have an opinion on this one.
2013-01-14 11:06:59 AM
1 votes:

cretinbob: I read the NRA wants to turn it into a rifle range.

//too soon?


Your window seat is waiting for you.

The place should be leveled and turned into a memorial. Funds can come from all the Federal tax dollars that Barrack Obama is saving since his administration declared that creating an armed presence in every school is "impractical", even though he also declared that measures that "even save one life" were worth taking.
2013-01-14 11:06:31 AM
1 votes:
Just because something bad happened there does not diminish it's value as a building.

I think it should stay open but that the school board should allow any students who witnessed shootings to relocate to different school should their parents desire.

If the people in the area wish to build a new building I think that's OK so long as they pay some sort of tax over and above what they already pay in order to finance it but I would NOT want any existing educational dollars spent on demolishing the school because it haunts the memories of folks. Go get conventional therapy; we don't do therapy-by-bulldozer here.
2013-01-14 11:04:34 AM
1 votes:
Take your fears and roll them up in a big ball, pile on with other mambypambies and pile the fears in a big mosh pit of self pity and shivering of bones.
Maybe a nice tissue would help. One with lotion.

Look, I am sorry for everybody's loss. But, EVERYBODY has losses. No special deals here, nobody gets out alive.


/get a grip on that media or lose all your Human Rights, you farkin' idiots
2013-01-14 11:03:55 AM
1 votes:
Maybe we could cancel one of the schools we are building in Afghanistan or Iraq, or maybe reduce our aid to Egypt just enough to cover the costs.
2013-01-14 11:02:36 AM
1 votes:
If the citizens want to have their taxes raised to pay the $millions it will cost to build a new elementary school then I guess that's their business. Stupid and unecessary and wasteful, but their business.

If they think they're just going to get another school for free, then they're crazy.

I think a reasonable approach would be to keep it vacant to the end of the school year (they already had to relocate the students to other arrangements this year) and then re-open it next fall like normal. It's a school - it's meant to be used.
2013-01-14 10:58:44 AM
1 votes:
Rename it the Samuel Colt Elementary School to get away from the unfortunate connotations Sandy Hook now has.
2013-01-14 10:58:18 AM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com
2013-01-14 10:56:54 AM
1 votes:
Yeah, it's a choice between "That's the building where all those kids died" and "That's the building that they built after all those kids died in the other one." Especially If they're going to rename the school after the principal or some other memorializing. In any case, it's going to continue to be a reminder of what happened there. Changing the scenery isn't going to help the kids who need help, that's what the school psychologist and counselors are for. Leave it up, reconfigure it, and go on living.
2013-01-14 10:51:28 AM
1 votes:
I grew up in a southern town that had a high school and an elementary school in the neighborhood where most of the African-American folks lived. They couldn't use them even after desegregation because they would mess up the legally mandated racial balance at all the schools in the system.

So the school district put their headquarters in the elementary school, and they used the high school as the vocational training school.

IMO that would be a great solution to the Newtown problem. Set up a memorial where the massacre was, convert the other classrooms to offices, and sell the existing school board offices.
2013-01-14 10:50:07 AM
1 votes:
The NRA should make it into a museum showcasing their accomplishments in arming every criminal in the USA.
2013-01-14 10:49:30 AM
1 votes:

StoPPeRmobile: They should spend about 12 years debating it then build a memorial and tower.


Meanwhile, protest the opening of any mental health facilities in the vicinity, saying that it would just be rubbing it in the face of everyone that lost someone to a crazy person.
2013-01-14 10:47:27 AM
1 votes:

Thunderpipes: Waste of a perfectly good school, massive waste of taxpayer dollars if they don't keep using it.

Kids are resilient, much more than we let them be in the media.


On the other hand.... would you REALLY send your 6 year old back to the SAME ROOM where he saw his little friends splattered all over the wall??

I hate the idea of wasting the building OR giving in to an insane person. But I really hate the idea of the kids suffering any more than necessary too.
2013-01-14 10:47:14 AM
1 votes:

mltain: I say they need to get over themselves, people in the middle east go through worse on a weekly or even daily basis.


I know, right? All those parents, friends and loved ones grieving their massacred babies need to get over themselves because of the Middle East. Totes. Glad you're the voice of reason here. What would we do without you?

/kill yourself
2013-01-14 10:46:05 AM
1 votes:
They should spend about 12 years debating it then build a memorial and tower.
2013-01-14 10:45:19 AM
1 votes:

Holocaust Agnostic: Mop it out and reopen it.


Yep. Hell, it's clear the kids (who want to return to their neighborhood school) have more sense and are recovering more quickly than their parents, who are attention-whoring 'won't someone think of the children' idiots.
2013-01-14 10:42:52 AM
1 votes:

ImRonBurgundy: Maybe one of those KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Huts. If there is enough room, add an A&W and Long John Silvers.


"Hey bro where you at?"
"I'm at the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell and KFC."
2013-01-14 10:41:51 AM
1 votes:
I say keep using it. Maybe get a little statue or plant a big tree or something as a memorial, but definitely keep using it. Schools are way too expensive to just toss out. Renovate the rooms and the next year's students (or the year after that) will have no problem attending classes there, though the teachers might have issues.
2013-01-14 10:40:39 AM
1 votes:
Annual haunted house.
2013-01-14 10:38:31 AM
1 votes:

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Take a lesson from the Amish and follow their example.

After the Amish school shooting they quietly tore down the building and rebuilt a new school.


Yes, because knocking down an amish school house and building a new one is the same as a modern school for a couple hundred kids.
2013-01-14 10:23:26 AM
1 votes:
Take a lesson from the Amish and follow their example.

After the Amish school shooting they quietly tore down the building and rebuilt a new school.
2013-01-14 10:13:42 AM
1 votes:

OtherLittleGuy: Columbine torn down the cafeteria and library areas where most of the shootings occured and reconfigured the school.


This is probably appropriate. Bulldozing the whole facility is excessive and wasteful - but at the same time, you can't put a bunch of six or seven year old kids back in the same classes and hallways where their friends were slaughtered.
2013-01-14 10:10:05 AM
1 votes:

dittybopper: kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.

I say the opposite. Remodel it, and reopen it. To do otherwise would mean Lanza *WON*, even in death. Place a plaque somewhere, rename it after the principal, whatever you feel you need to memorialize those who died, but DO NOT bulldoze it. That would just encourage others to attack schools, knowing they'd get their little piece of infamy if they just tried hard enough.


Hmm...I think you might could argue that leaving the school intact (in any capacity) would only help further his infamy. It would become an almost local legend...that place where THAT happened. It would help immortalize his evil deed. But if the building is gone...there's nothing tangible to tie to the event. I think it could be forgotten easier, and deny him any ongoing notoriety in the future.
2013-01-14 10:09:03 AM
1 votes:

nekom: dittybopper: That would just encourage others to attack schools, knowing they'd get their little piece of infamy if they just tried hard enough.

I'm not criminal pathologist, but I somehow doubt that comes into play.  What happened here was the hallmark of a schizophrenic madman.  I don't think he was seeking any fame, I think he was just wholly off the rails.


Correct but future shooters could be inspired to do the same thing to secure some infamy.
2013-01-14 10:07:35 AM
1 votes:

nekom: kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.

colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon

See, there's the problem.  Those are both valid opinions.  The Amish bulldozed the schoolhouse after the horrible shooting there.  Conversely, I believe Columbine is still open (or am I wrong on that?).  Either school of thought is valid, and at the same time either option really sucks.


Columbine torn down the cafeteria and library areas where most of the shootings occured and reconfigured the school.
2013-01-14 10:07:04 AM
1 votes:

give me doughnuts: How about using it as a school?

Is Columbine High still a school? How about Virginia Tech?


Columbian still is, but they've turned the library (and maybe the cafeteria) into memorials. Virginia Tech was barely a school to begin with.
2013-01-14 10:03:19 AM
1 votes:

dittybopper: That would just encourage others to attack schools, knowing they'd get their little piece of infamy if they just tried hard enough.


I'm not criminal pathologist, but I somehow doubt that comes into play.  What happened here was the hallmark of a schizophrenic madman.  I don't think he was seeking any fame, I think he was just wholly off the rails.
2013-01-14 09:34:42 AM
1 votes:

incendi: Use it to fuel conspiracy theories and generate some tourism revenues...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8

One of my idiot friends shared that video on facebook this morning with this comment:
"I wish the president would answer some questions

What weapon was used
The examiner says rifle but can't say what caliber
Initial reports have 2 not 4 handguns inside

I'm not being insensitive to the event just curious to the facts in play"

It's like Benghazi round two, with even less of a tenuous connection to the presidency!


I saw that this morning too.  What's funny is that the whole thing was spawned by the media's "Get it on the air first" fight, facts be damned. Now they're Just Asking Questions®
2013-01-14 09:29:50 AM
1 votes:
Laser tag arena!

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
2013-01-14 09:27:39 AM
1 votes:
Use it to fuel conspiracy theories and generate some tourism revenues...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8

One of my idiot friends shared that video on facebook this morning with this comment:
"I wish the president would answer some questions

What weapon was used
The examiner says rifle but can't say what caliber
Initial reports have 2 not 4 handguns inside

I'm not being insensitive to the event just curious to the facts in play"


It's like Benghazi round two, with even less of a tenuous connection to the presidency!
 
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