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(The Day)   A month after the shooting, residents of Newtown struggle to decide what exactly to do with Sandy Hook Elementary School   (theday.com) divider line 338
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2013-01-14 11:22:34 AM

cretinbob: I read the NRA wants to turn it into a rifle range.

//too soon?


What are you insane?!!?

Paintball!! Paintball in abandoned school type buildings are hella fun!
 
2013-01-14 11:22:50 AM

snocone: valar_morghulis: snocone: Remenber, You are setting up an "entitlement".
All future mass killings, and there will be, will expect the same most favored status and demand the snowballing lottery of benefits showered on the standing abouts.

Everybody dies. Many violently. This is reality.
Whatcha gonna do?

Sounds like a post from Jezebel.

???
"In The Bloudy Tenent of Persecution for Cause of Conscience, Roger Williams, the founder of the American colony of Rhode Island and the co-founder of the First Baptist Church in America, wrote of Naboth's story as an example of how God disfavored the use of government force in religious matters. Williams believed using force in the name of religion would lead to political persecution, contrary to the Bible's teachings."


Oh, my bad. Didn't realize a Gawker website was so obscure. Heh.

"Jezebel" is the name of a feminist website. Its commentators are fond of shutting down arguments by citing "privilege" -- i.e., to a white male who holds a contrary viewpoint: "Your privilege is showing." Etc.
 
2013-01-14 11:23:28 AM

ChuDogg: valar_morghulis: snocone: Remenber, You are setting up an "entitlement".
All future mass killings, and there will be, will expect the same most favored status and demand the snowballing lottery of benefits showered on the standing abouts.

Everybody dies. Many violently. This is reality.
Whatcha gonna do?

Sounds like a post from Jezebel.

I don't see any mention of "white male privilege". Clearly not a post from Jezebel.


Yeah, I overplayed my hand.
 
2013-01-14 11:25:08 AM
Tear it down and turn it into a memorial and park.
 
2013-01-14 11:25:54 AM
....I don't believe that one psychopath - who I refuse to name - ....

Voldemort?
 
2013-01-14 11:29:57 AM

colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon


Honor it. Memorialize it. And fill it with children again so the hallways echo with laughter instead of sorrow.
 
2013-01-14 11:34:35 AM

dittybopper: kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.

I say the opposite. Remodel it, and reopen it. To do otherwise would mean Lanza *WON*, even in death. Place a plaque somewhere, rename it after the principal, whatever you feel you need to memorialize those who died, but DO NOT bulldoze it. That would just encourage others to attack schools, knowing they'd get their little piece of infamy if they just tried hard enough.


Lanza didn't win shiat. He was a scared, confused, and angry asshole, and now he's dead. Put up a park with a memorial to the victims, and let the shooter lie in an unmarked grave, forgotten.
 
2013-01-14 11:38:31 AM

mltain: I say they need to get over themselves, people in the middle east go through worse on a weekly or even daily basis.


Losing a child is incredibly painful for any parent, anywhere in the world. But the last time I checked, most people have a hard time averaging more than one kid a year. Nobody but David could lose a child a week for more than a few weeks.
 
2013-01-14 11:39:46 AM
Great. Now creative PTAs are going hire people to shoot children in run-down schools to get funding for remodeling.
 
2013-01-14 11:40:13 AM

ImRonBurgundy: PrivateCaboose: ImRonBurgundy: Maybe one of those KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Huts. If there is enough room, add an A&W and Long John Silvers.

"Hey bro where you at?"
"I'm at the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell and KFC."

We just call it the Kentacohut


We called that the Kentucky Pizza Fried Taco Hut Bell Chicken.

Text messages were unnecessarily long, and organizing a trip there was difficult when we were drunk and/or under the influence.
 
2013-01-14 11:42:49 AM
Burn it! Burn it to the ground!
 
2013-01-14 11:44:01 AM

groppet: nekom: kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.

colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon

See, there's the problem.  Those are both valid opinions.  The Amish bulldozed the schoolhouse after the horrible shooting there.  Conversely, I believe Columbine is still open (or am I wrong on that?).  Either school of thought is valid, and at the same time either option really sucks.

Yeah last I heard Columbine was open, But the library or cafateria was sealed off.


Don't know if anyone has posted these yet. I wish there was a "before/after" aspect to these pictures, but the page at least explains what they did to remodel Columbine.
 
2013-01-14 11:44:18 AM
That sound you hear is another million guns slipping from the hands of "responsible" gun owners into the hands of criminals.
 
2013-01-14 11:46:26 AM
How many grades go to that school? Next year will have a whole new group of kids who only know what parents have told them.
 
2013-01-14 11:49:52 AM

The Larch: Nobody but David could lose a child a week for more than a few weeks.


experimentiv.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-14 11:51:30 AM
Read Alex Jones and explore the internet Sheeple! This shiat never happened in the first place. It is all a conspiracy. You have been duped morons.
 
2013-01-14 11:51:40 AM

Harry Freakstorm: Harry! Quit disrupting the class. Go over and stand where Johnny was shot! Not where Meredeth was wounded, you idiot. Where Johnny was shot! Now think about what you've done and try to ignore the tortured cries of anguish that you will hear as you stand in the lonely corner.

"Oh please Misses Graham! I'll be good! I hear the cries of the wounded and the staccato sounds of shell casings hitting the floor. I see their faces! Their souless eyes beckon me to join them! I'll be good!"

Five more minutes, Freakstorm.


The world inside your head is too disturbing. No gun for you. For that matter, I think you're late for your appointment with the men in the nice white coats who will bring you your happy shot and the jacket with the really long sleeves that tie together in back.
 
2013-01-14 11:53:21 AM

Sin_City_Superhero: The Larch: Nobody but David could lose a child a week for more than a few weeks.

[experimentiv.files.wordpress.com image 544x464]


That one kid in the front is all like "fark yeah, my oldest brother's hand me downs will be back in style by the time I'm old enough to wear them"
 
2013-01-14 11:56:25 AM

GORDON: colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon

Honor it. Memorialize it. And fill it with children again so the hallways echo with laughter instead of sorrow.


This. So much this.
 
2013-01-14 11:57:01 AM
I know what i would do:

First, keep the school running

Second, I would commission a bronze memorial to be made and placed at the front of the school. The memorial would be a scene depicting a life size version of each child that was lost that day playing and having fun at recess, with the teacher lost that day watching over them. A name placard with the names, and birthday of each of them...

Just my idea...
 
2013-01-14 11:57:11 AM

cretinbob: I read the NRA wants to turn it into a rifle range.

//too soon?


Not at all, came here to say this.

/fark never disappoints
 
2013-01-14 11:57:14 AM

DaSwankOne: Read Alex Jones and explore the internet Sheeple! This shiat never happened in the first place. It is all a conspiracy. You have been duped morons.



I wonder how much he gets paid by the banking gangsters and defense contractors to keep the waters muddied.
 
2013-01-14 11:58:50 AM

groppet: nekom: kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.

colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon

See, there's the problem.  Those are both valid opinions.  The Amish bulldozed the schoolhouse after the horrible shooting there.  Conversely, I believe Columbine is still open (or am I wrong on that?).  Either school of thought is valid, and at the same time either option really sucks.

Yeah last I heard Columbine was open, But the library or cafateria was sealed off.


That started out like a joke and now I'm disappointed in this here window seat.
 
2013-01-14 12:00:01 PM

CeroX: I know what i would do:

First, keep the school running

Second, I would commission a bronze memorial to be made and placed at the front of the school. The memorial would be a scene depicting a life size version of each child that was lost that day playing and having fun at recess, with the teacher lost that day watching over them. A name placard with the names, and birthday of each of them...

Just my idea...


Holy hell man! Have you seen the price of copper these days?! They'd have to have an armed guard there night and day to keep the thieves away......

On second thought I love this idea.
 
2013-01-14 12:00:56 PM

incendi: One of my idiot friends shared that video on facebook this morning with this comment:
"I wish the president would answer some questions

What weapon was used
The examiner says rifle but can't say what caliber
Initial reports have 2 not 4 handguns inside

I'm not being insensitive to the event just curious to the facts in play"


Ah, the siren call of a conspiracy nut.  Remember the troofers?  "I'm just asking questions."

No, you're not.  You're an idiot.
 
2013-01-14 12:02:02 PM

heypete: kvinesknows: Is there anyone left alive that saw actual shootings? or just people who were in the building in other rooms?

I seem to recall that there was at least one girl who was in one of the rooms the killer attacked and she survived by playing dead.

/I can't imagine the type of trauma that'd inflict on a kid. No words. :/


My wife is like that when I want to have sex.
 
2013-01-14 12:02:13 PM

stuffy: How many grades go to that school? Next year will have a whole new group of kids who only know what parents have told them.


As a parent, you have to explain things to you kids. Some parents are just really bad at it. I was always very straightforward with my son when he was growing up. It would usually start with something like "Dude, we need to sit down, cuz mommy needs to talk to you."

BTW, my son witnessed a stabbing in the cafeteria when he was in Jr High many years ago. We talked about it when I got the call to pick him up and he went right back to school the next day. He's perfectly fine, just because we did talk about it, I think. People just got to roll with what goes on in life, traumatic or not.

/I still have a sad for those people, just think they need to start healing
//hiding from it or pretending it never happened is not how you heal
 
2013-01-14 12:02:48 PM
Reopen it, tear down the buildings where people were killed, remodel those sections with a garden or some other memorial, and move on. Allow kids who don't want to go back to that location the ability to transfer permanently to another school in the district. These kids are looking to the adults in their community for an example of how to act in the face of tragedy. If we wring our hands and refuse to use the school again, we are teaching them that the proper reaction is to be a whiny little coward that runs from terrible things instead of confronting them head-on. I'd be scared to death to go back if I were a child there, but doing so we teach me some valuable life lessons about courage and integrity.
 
2013-01-14 12:04:08 PM

Insatiable Jesus: I wonder how much he gets paid by the banking gangsters and defense contractors to keep the waters muddied.


Jones and Beck are just plain old snake oil salesmen. First they tell you about the pending doom, and then they sell you the gold and dried food you'll need to survive it.
 
2013-01-14 12:04:09 PM
Radon!

They should just say they detected high levels of radon.
 
2013-01-14 12:04:17 PM

SpectroBoy: On the other hand.... would you REALLY send your 6 year old back to the SAME ROOM where he saw his little friends splattered all over the wall??


He'll be 9 or 10 at least won't be in that classroom anymore.
 
2013-01-14 12:06:40 PM

hockeychick: GORDON: colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon

Honor it. Memorialize it. And fill it with children again so the hallways echo with laughter instead of sorrow.

This. So much this.


Or erase it and put in its place a children's park and learning center. A building with sections shut off forever (as with Columbine apparently) isn't a school, it's a place waiting for the "Ghost Adventures" crew to come set up an overnight vigil on, creeping out future generations who will wonder why the whole place wasn't bulldozed.
 
2013-01-14 12:07:21 PM
Turn it into a surprise punch in the face museum
 
2013-01-14 12:09:58 PM
I'm sure happy that we're raising our children in such a way that they'll grow up to be sentimental twats who expect the rest of the world to change in order to accommodate their feelings.
 
2013-01-14 12:12:20 PM
Turn it into a facility the treats mental illness. That's what this debate needs to be about anyway
 
2013-01-14 12:13:03 PM

Glancing Blow: My wife is like that when I want to have sex.


Here we are having a serous discussion about solving the world's problems any you make me giggle like that.


Love ya
 
2013-01-14 12:14:39 PM

xynix: TWX: The biggest problem is that school districts are often self-insured, no outside entity to pay for changes. In this case it'll be the taxpayers paying to demo the school (remembering that there could be asbestos issues making it very expensive to demolish) and to build a new one. You're looking at probably $30,000,000 minimum, possibly quite a bit more depending on local labor costs and permitting issues.

The Amish were able to demolish and rebuild a school because their school was very simple in construction and they had a lot of volunteer/community involvement, and had much less stringent building codes and systems in the school.

While there may be volunteers to help in Newtown or other surrounding municipalities, it's unlikely that they can get a volunteer force of sufficient size to make a realistic dent in the cost of the work.

Seriously.. All the Amish do is build buildings and make candles. Also some heater or something.. I know there is an Amish Heater out there somewhere.


Damn nice furniture too. And sausage. I gain about sixty pounds just walking through the parking lot of the local Amish Market.
 
2013-01-14 12:15:17 PM
They should reopen the school, THEN bulldoze it. Gonna want to chain the doors shut, though, so the little buggers can't run...
 
2013-01-14 12:15:34 PM
Have every DIY, TLC, HGTV and ABC home remodeling show come over and rebuilt and remodel that biatch.
 
2013-01-14 12:16:04 PM
They could make it into a training facility for teachers, principals and children to practice drills with their guns.

/obviously
 
2013-01-14 12:16:20 PM
Too lazy to read all the comments, but I suggest an insane asylum.
 
2013-01-14 12:20:30 PM
use it as a school again.

didn't people sling around a quote: "the terrorists win if we can't return to our normal lives."

if we keep cordoning off every building or street that is shot up, where will we live? it sounds a bit callous but they (the children and educators) are gone and we're here.
 
2013-01-14 12:21:33 PM
A kid got shot in my 3rd grade classroom during silent reading, It was an accident, he brought the gun to school on a dare and his backpack fell off his desk and the gun discharged, hitting him in the leg.

We were back in class the next day.
 
2013-01-14 12:22:05 PM
Have a gun show as a fund raiser, remodel it, problem solved.
 
2013-01-14 12:22:11 PM

nekom: kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.

colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon

See, there's the problem.  Those are both valid opinions.  The Amish bulldozed the schoolhouse after the horrible shooting there.  Conversely, I believe Columbine is still open (or am I wrong on that?).  Either school of thought is valid, and at the same time either option really sucks.


And, as astonishing as it may be, the individual kids, parents, and teachers may all have different reactions and needs. Some will just shrug it off or be a little sad for a while and occasionally thereafter. Some will be very, very sad. Some may have various PTSD reactions that are hard to trace to this event decades into the future. I personally wouldn't want to go back, but I also wouldn't raze it. I would let students and teachers transfer or stay.
 
2013-01-14 12:22:37 PM

stpauler: Laser tag arena!


I run a restaurant within a facility that has a go-kart track, luxury bowling alley, arcade, etc. The plan for Spring was to add a dual-level tactical laser tag area. We were expecting huge crowds.

Not on the docket any longer. It sucks. I get it, but it sucks.
 
2013-01-14 12:23:55 PM

The Larch: dittybopper: kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.

I say the opposite. Remodel it, and reopen it. To do otherwise would mean Lanza *WON*, even in death. Place a plaque somewhere, rename it after the principal, whatever you feel you need to memorialize those who died, but DO NOT bulldoze it. That would just encourage others to attack schools, knowing they'd get their little piece of infamy if they just tried hard enough.

Lanza didn't win shiat. He was a scared, confused, and angry asshole, and now he's dead. Put up a park with a memorial to the victims, and let the shooter lie in an unmarked grave, forgotten.


He won notoriety. Deny him that. Tearing down the school and putting up a park will just perpetuate it. You do that, then the next sixth-standard-deviation wacko will see that shooting up a school is a viable strategy for attaining infamy.

If you just remodel the school and put it back to it's original purpose, then there is less motivation for the next person to do it. Armed guards, whether formal or informal, do the same: One almost never hears of mass shootings at police stations or gun ranges, and when they do happen, they tend to be of limited scope because the intended targets are armed.
 
2013-01-14 12:24:01 PM
Town officials also are planning private meetings with the victims' families to get their input.

Why? Their kids don't go there any more.

/kidding!
 
2013-01-14 12:24:03 PM

BigNumber12: I'm sure happy that we're raising our children in such a way that they'll grow up to be sentimental twats who expect the rest of the world to change in order to accommodate their feelings.


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2013-01-14 12:25:09 PM
Turn it into a school for the retards. They won't know the difference.

/trolling
//next school year rename it after the principal, turn the classroom into a memorial, and move on
 
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