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(The Day)   A month after the shooting, residents of Newtown struggle to decide what exactly to do with Sandy Hook Elementary School   (theday.com) divider line 338
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2013-01-14 10:35:13 AM
Abortion clinic.
 
2013-01-14 10:35:50 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I know a lot of people are going to want it torn down or made into something that would make an interesting social statement....

but it seems it would be best suited to be a school. Ya know, since that is what it is. Clean it up, repair it, it's good as new.


I think the problem would be the kids who, you know, witnessed their friends getting murdered. That whole "PTSD" thing is probably worse when you're 7 years old.
 
2013-01-14 10:37:27 AM

dittybopper: kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.

I say the opposite. Remodel it, and reopen it. To do otherwise would mean Lanza *WON*, even in death. Place a plaque somewhere, rename it after the principal, whatever you feel you need to memorialize those who died, but DO NOT bulldoze it. That would just encourage others to attack schools, knowing they'd get their little piece of infamy if they just tried hard enough.


This. And QFT.

I know it will be a horrible day when the surivors go back in to that school. But consider that within a couple of years, there will be a whole new crop of students that were NOT present on that fateful day.
So the effort to make the school disappear as if it were the school's fault is rather absurd.
 
2013-01-14 10:37:28 AM

theFword: Abortion clinic.


carrying on the tradition that only began last month.
 
2013-01-14 10:37:47 AM

nekom: It's a tough call.  All I can really say is it's entirely their business what they decide to do with it.


I would like to think that is a given.

I'm of two minds on this one. On the one hand I think they should just fix it up and reopen it. I'm guess the town doesn't have a few million sitting in the bank to build a whole new school. That and there is something healing about getting over something and moving on. That's for the town, I dont know how the families will move on. I'm not sure I could.

On the other hand I can see the need and want to bulldoze the place. I'm sure the families of the victims dont want to drive by the place every day and see it. And that way you dont have to worry about all the terror tourists coming by and reopening old wounds every 5 years for "where are they now" specials.

But maybe a third is my favorite. Just thought of this. Wouldn't it be cool to save the school as a training ground for SWAT and special police forces? Those guys are always looking for places to train and it would bring in money and the right kind of tourists. Kind of making something good out of the whole mess? From the response time of the police the police station can't be that far away.
 
2013-01-14 10:38:12 AM
Build a hospital next to it and turn the affected rooms into maternity wards? Cosmic balance or whatever.
 
2013-01-14 10:38:30 AM
Turn it into a memorial, with a ticker running up the number of American gun deaths since the incident.
 
2013-01-14 10:38:31 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Take a lesson from the Amish and follow their example.

After the Amish school shooting they quietly tore down the building and rebuilt a new school.


Yes, because knocking down an amish school house and building a new one is the same as a modern school for a couple hundred kids.
 
2013-01-14 10:39:01 AM
Raze it and fill in the foundation, then have a priest consecrate the land.
 
2013-01-14 10:39:03 AM
I'm thinking huge national memorial that will take 10 years to build and cost a cool tril.
 
2013-01-14 10:39:14 AM
""We have our best childhood memories at Sandy Hook Elementary School, and I don't believe that one psychopath should get away with taking away any more than he did on Dec 14," he said."


THIS!!!!!
 
2013-01-14 10:39:14 AM
Close off the area where the shooting took place, and rearrange the rest of the school to compensate for the lost rooms, like they did at Columbine. Keep it as a school though; there's no need to turn it into a memorial or park or whatever.
 
2013-01-14 10:39:32 AM
Giant statue of Guliani
 
2013-01-14 10:39:59 AM
Maybe one of those KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Huts. If there is enough room, add an A&W and Long John Silvers.
 
2013-01-14 10:40:07 AM

TWX: The biggest problem is that school districts are often self-insured, no outside entity to pay for changes. In this case it'll be the taxpayers paying to demo the school (remembering that there could be asbestos issues making it very expensive to demolish) and to build a new one. You're looking at probably $30,000,000 minimum, possibly quite a bit more depending on local labor costs and permitting issues.

The Amish were able to demolish and rebuild a school because their school was very simple in construction and they had a lot of volunteer/community involvement, and had much less stringent building codes and systems in the school.

While there may be volunteers to help in Newtown or other surrounding municipalities, it's unlikely that they can get a volunteer force of sufficient size to make a realistic dent in the cost of the work.


Seriously.. All the Amish do is build buildings and make candles. Also some heater or something.. I know there is an Amish Heater out there somewhere.
 
2013-01-14 10:40:39 AM
Annual haunted house.
 
2013-01-14 10:41:02 AM

PrivateCaboose: Fark_Guy_Rob: I know a lot of people are going to want it torn down or made into something that would make an interesting social statement....

but it seems it would be best suited to be a school. Ya know, since that is what it is. Clean it up, repair it, it's good as new.

I think the problem would be the kids who, you know, witnessed their friends getting murdered. That whole "PTSD" thing is probably worse when you're 7 years old.


Is there anyone left alive that saw actual shootings? or just people who were in the building in other rooms?
 
2013-01-14 10:41:44 AM

PrivateCaboose: Fark_Guy_Rob: I know a lot of people are going to want it torn down or made into something that would make an interesting social statement....

but it seems it would be best suited to be a school. Ya know, since that is what it is. Clean it up, repair it, it's good as new.

I think the problem would be the kids who, you know, witnessed their friends getting murdered. That whole "PTSD" thing is probably worse when you're 7 years old.


If I witnessed my friends getting murdered I don't think I'd really care much about the building where it happened.
I'd also suspect that elementary schools look really darn similar. I had a summer gig cleaning schools so I've been to every elementary and junior high school in my district; and they all feel the same.

I don't see how tearing down one generic elementary building and putting up another is going to solve any problems.
 
2013-01-14 10:41:51 AM
I say keep using it. Maybe get a little statue or plant a big tree or something as a memorial, but definitely keep using it. Schools are way too expensive to just toss out. Renovate the rooms and the next year's students (or the year after that) will have no problem attending classes there, though the teachers might have issues.
 
2013-01-14 10:41:58 AM
Mop it out and reopen it.
 
2013-01-14 10:42:52 AM

ImRonBurgundy: Maybe one of those KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Huts. If there is enough room, add an A&W and Long John Silvers.


"Hey bro where you at?"
"I'm at the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell and KFC."
 
2013-01-14 10:43:22 AM
I say they need to get over themselves, people in the middle east go through worse on a weekly or even daily basis.
 
2013-01-14 10:44:14 AM

cretinbob: I read the NRA wants to turn it into a rifle range.

//too soon?


So this family walks in to a talent agent's office. . . . .
 
2013-01-14 10:45:17 AM

colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon


I'm with you on this emotion.

That said, the question is really what's best for the kids. Some of them might be pretty scared of that place.
 
2013-01-14 10:45:19 AM

Holocaust Agnostic: Mop it out and reopen it.


Yep. Hell, it's clear the kids (who want to return to their neighborhood school) have more sense and are recovering more quickly than their parents, who are attention-whoring 'won't someone think of the children' idiots.
 
2013-01-14 10:45:27 AM

kvinesknows: Is there anyone left alive that saw actual shootings? or just people who were in the building in other rooms?


I seem to recall that there was at least one girl who was in one of the rooms the killer attacked and she survived by playing dead.

/I can't imagine the type of trauma that'd inflict on a kid. No words. :/
 
2013-01-14 10:45:49 AM

jchic: Correct but future shooters could be inspired to do the same thing to secure some infamy.


It's a little late to keep Lanza from being infamous.
 
2013-01-14 10:46:05 AM
They should spend about 12 years debating it then build a memorial and tower.
 
2013-01-14 10:46:18 AM
Tear it down, plant a shiatload of trees instead.
 
2013-01-14 10:46:39 AM
Turn it in to a Chucky Cheese.
 
2013-01-14 10:47:14 AM

mltain: I say they need to get over themselves, people in the middle east go through worse on a weekly or even daily basis.


I know, right? All those parents, friends and loved ones grieving their massacred babies need to get over themselves because of the Middle East. Totes. Glad you're the voice of reason here. What would we do without you?

/kill yourself
 
2013-01-14 10:47:27 AM

Thunderpipes: Waste of a perfectly good school, massive waste of taxpayer dollars if they don't keep using it.

Kids are resilient, much more than we let them be in the media.


On the other hand.... would you REALLY send your 6 year old back to the SAME ROOM where he saw his little friends splattered all over the wall??

I hate the idea of wasting the building OR giving in to an insane person. But I really hate the idea of the kids suffering any more than necessary too.
 
2013-01-14 10:47:44 AM

PrivateCaboose: ImRonBurgundy: Maybe one of those KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Huts. If there is enough room, add an A&W and Long John Silvers.

"Hey bro where you at?"
"I'm at the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell and KFC."


We just call it the Kentacohut
 
2013-01-14 10:47:44 AM
It's none of our business, let the folks of Newtown decide.
Maybe Obama / Biden could use it as a back ground when they give their speech about assault rifles.
Sorry, too soon.
 
2013-01-14 10:48:30 AM

baltimoreblonde: How about remodeling it, but for the next batch of elementary school kids. Don't make the ones who were there go back.


That's what I am thinking. Wait until these kids are old enough for the next level of school while remodeling it. Then put the next batch of kids back in Newtown.
 
2013-01-14 10:48:42 AM

The Muthaship: Brick-House: Insane Asylum???

Just how haunted do you want this place to end up being?


"Make the walls bleed!" levels would bring money into the local economy because people like me would go visit.

/probably get locked up, too
 
2013-01-14 10:49:30 AM

StoPPeRmobile: They should spend about 12 years debating it then build a memorial and tower.


Meanwhile, protest the opening of any mental health facilities in the vicinity, saying that it would just be rubbing it in the face of everyone that lost someone to a crazy person.
 
2013-01-14 10:49:39 AM

colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon


THIS
 
2013-01-14 10:49:44 AM
If we're going to tear down every place that has a shooting, one day the U.S. will run out of buildings.
 
2013-01-14 10:50:07 AM
The NRA should make it into a museum showcasing their accomplishments in arming every criminal in the USA.
 
2013-01-14 10:51:09 AM

Holocaust Agnostic: Mop it out and reopen it.


omg.
 
2013-01-14 10:51:15 AM
Patch the holes, put up a nice little memorial, and teach the adults that life goes on. The kids still know this and don't need a refresher.
 
2013-01-14 10:51:28 AM
I grew up in a southern town that had a high school and an elementary school in the neighborhood where most of the African-American folks lived. They couldn't use them even after desegregation because they would mess up the legally mandated racial balance at all the schools in the system.

So the school district put their headquarters in the elementary school, and they used the high school as the vocational training school.

IMO that would be a great solution to the Newtown problem. Set up a memorial where the massacre was, convert the other classrooms to offices, and sell the existing school board offices.
 
2013-01-14 10:52:45 AM

nekom: It's a tough call.  All I can really say is it's entirely their business what they decide to do with it.


I hope it remains Sandy Hook Elementary School, as is, and that the community doesn't turn it into anything other than a demonstration that a single crazed individual can't destroy what took them so long to build. Open the doors, talk to the kids, get back to teaching, and continue forward.
 
2013-01-14 10:54:03 AM

TWX: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Take a lesson from the Amish and follow their example.

After the Amish school shooting they quietly tore down the building and rebuilt a new school.

kvinesknows: patch it up, reopen it

The biggest problem is that school districts are often self-insured, no outside entity to pay for changes. In this case it'll be the taxpayers paying to demo the school (remembering that there could be asbestos issues making it very expensive to demolish) and to build a new one. You're looking at probably $30,000,000 minimum, possibly quite a bit more depending on local labor costs and permitting issues.

The Amish were able to demolish and rebuild a school because their school was very simple in construction and they had a lot of volunteer/community involvement, and had much less stringent building codes and systems in the school.

While there may be volunteers to help in Newtown or other surrounding municipalities, it's unlikely that they can get a volunteer force of sufficient size to make a realistic dent in the cost of the work.


That's what we have State and Federal grants for. Its not like we can expect one of the richest counties in the country to pay for the whims of their own sniveling snowflakes. That's about as preposterous as not using this to advance gun control.
 
TWX
2013-01-14 10:54:37 AM

cig-mkr: It's none of our business, let the folks of Newtown decide.
Maybe Obama / Biden could use it as a back ground when they give their speech about assault rifles.
Sorry, too soon.


Why too soon?

As far as I'm concerned, it's both topical and appropriate. In fact, set the podium up in front of the wall with the most bullet holes in it.
 
2013-01-14 10:54:46 AM

mltain: I say they need to get over themselves, people in the middle east go through worse on a weekly or even daily basis.


Besides what are the odds that it will happen again in the same place.
 
2013-01-14 10:55:05 AM

ImRonBurgundy: PrivateCaboose: ImRonBurgundy: Maybe one of those KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Huts. If there is enough room, add an A&W and Long John Silvers.

"Hey bro where you at?"
"I'm at the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell and KFC."

We just call it the Kentacohut


THIS IS WHAT WE CALL IT, TOO!

BROSNAP!
 
2013-01-14 10:56:16 AM

ImRonBurgundy: Maybe one of those KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Huts. If there is enough room, add an A&W and Long John Silvers.


Damn it, now I want to eat me one of them sadness piles in a failure bowl:

www.kfc.com
 
2013-01-14 10:56:53 AM

CujoQuarrel: I'll go with turn it into a happy place where people go to visit to enjoy them selves

A strip club


therainracer.files.wordpress.com

I second that idea, as long as we keep the focus on the children...
 
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