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(The Day)   A month after the shooting, residents of Newtown struggle to decide what exactly to do with Sandy Hook Elementary School   (theday.com) divider line 338
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2013-01-14 09:16:29 AM
I read the NRA wants to turn it into a rifle range.

//too soon?
 
2013-01-14 09:17:27 AM
It's a tough call.  All I can really say is it's entirely their business what they decide to do with it.
 
2013-01-14 09:22:56 AM
I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.
 
2013-01-14 09:25:32 AM
Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon
 
2013-01-14 09:27:39 AM
Use it to fuel conspiracy theories and generate some tourism revenues...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8

One of my idiot friends shared that video on facebook this morning with this comment:
"I wish the president would answer some questions

What weapon was used
The examiner says rifle but can't say what caliber
Initial reports have 2 not 4 handguns inside

I'm not being insensitive to the event just curious to the facts in play"


It's like Benghazi round two, with even less of a tenuous connection to the presidency!
 
2013-01-14 09:28:52 AM

cretinbob: I read the NRA wants to turn it into a rifle range.

//too soon?


No, no.  A gun nut, doomsday prepper, survivalist firearms practice area.  You can put kid sized targets in the various rooms, and throw in a few adult sized ones with 'gun control activist' scrawled across the chest.
 
2013-01-14 09:29:50 AM
Laser tag arena!

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2013-01-14 09:31:46 AM

kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.


colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon


See, there's the problem.  Those are both valid opinions.  The Amish bulldozed the schoolhouse after the horrible shooting there.  Conversely, I believe Columbine is still open (or am I wrong on that?).  Either school of thought is valid, and at the same time either option really sucks.
 
2013-01-14 09:32:09 AM

stpauler: Laser tag arena!

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ding ding
 
2013-01-14 09:34:42 AM

incendi: Use it to fuel conspiracy theories and generate some tourism revenues...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8

One of my idiot friends shared that video on facebook this morning with this comment:
"I wish the president would answer some questions

What weapon was used
The examiner says rifle but can't say what caliber
Initial reports have 2 not 4 handguns inside

I'm not being insensitive to the event just curious to the facts in play"

It's like Benghazi round two, with even less of a tenuous connection to the presidency!


I saw that this morning too.  What's funny is that the whole thing was spawned by the media's "Get it on the air first" fight, facts be damned. Now they're Just Asking Questions®
 
2013-01-14 09:40:00 AM

cretinbob: I read the NRA wants to turn it into a rifle range.

//too soon?


Too soon? I came here to make that suggestion in earnest.
 
2013-01-14 09:42:51 AM
How about using it as a school?

Is Columbine High still a school? How about Virginia Tech?
 
2013-01-14 09:59:41 AM

kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.


I say the opposite. Remodel it, and reopen it. To do otherwise would mean Lanza *WON*, even in death. Place a plaque somewhere, rename it after the principal, whatever you feel you need to memorialize those who died, but DO NOT bulldoze it. That would just encourage others to attack schools, knowing they'd get their little piece of infamy if they just tried hard enough.
 
2013-01-14 10:01:14 AM

colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon


This.
 
2013-01-14 10:03:19 AM

dittybopper: That would just encourage others to attack schools, knowing they'd get their little piece of infamy if they just tried hard enough.


I'm not criminal pathologist, but I somehow doubt that comes into play.  What happened here was the hallmark of a schizophrenic madman.  I don't think he was seeking any fame, I think he was just wholly off the rails.
 
2013-01-14 10:04:48 AM
Well, it's already set up perfectly to be a school... How about therapy for those that need it and everyone else can get the fark on with their lives. Not every tragedy needs knee jerk reactions.
 
2013-01-14 10:07:04 AM

give me doughnuts: How about using it as a school?

Is Columbine High still a school? How about Virginia Tech?


Columbian still is, but they've turned the library (and maybe the cafeteria) into memorials. Virginia Tech was barely a school to begin with.
 
2013-01-14 10:07:35 AM

nekom: kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.

colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon

See, there's the problem.  Those are both valid opinions.  The Amish bulldozed the schoolhouse after the horrible shooting there.  Conversely, I believe Columbine is still open (or am I wrong on that?).  Either school of thought is valid, and at the same time either option really sucks.


Columbine torn down the cafeteria and library areas where most of the shootings occured and reconfigured the school.
 
2013-01-14 10:08:27 AM

Yes please: give me doughnuts: How about using it as a school?

Is Columbine High still a school? How about Virginia Tech?

Columbian still is, but they've turned the library (and maybe the cafeteria) into memorials. Virginia Tech was barely a school to begin with.


I meant Columbine, obviously. The word had been removed from my autocorrect out of respect for the victims.
 
2013-01-14 10:08:59 AM

Honest Bender: Well, it's already set up perfectly to be a school... How about therapy for those that need it and everyone else can get the fark on with their lives. Not every tragedy needs knee jerk reactions.


We're in the United States so everything must have a knee jerk reaction. WE DEMAND IT!!!
 
2013-01-14 10:09:03 AM

nekom: dittybopper: That would just encourage others to attack schools, knowing they'd get their little piece of infamy if they just tried hard enough.

I'm not criminal pathologist, but I somehow doubt that comes into play.  What happened here was the hallmark of a schizophrenic madman.  I don't think he was seeking any fame, I think he was just wholly off the rails.


Correct but future shooters could be inspired to do the same thing to secure some infamy.
 
2013-01-14 10:10:05 AM

dittybopper: kid_icarus: I'd say it couldn't be more unusable as a school if it were radioactive. Bulldoze it.

I say the opposite. Remodel it, and reopen it. To do otherwise would mean Lanza *WON*, even in death. Place a plaque somewhere, rename it after the principal, whatever you feel you need to memorialize those who died, but DO NOT bulldoze it. That would just encourage others to attack schools, knowing they'd get their little piece of infamy if they just tried hard enough.


Hmm...I think you might could argue that leaving the school intact (in any capacity) would only help further his infamy. It would become an almost local legend...that place where THAT happened. It would help immortalize his evil deed. But if the building is gone...there's nothing tangible to tie to the event. I think it could be forgotten easier, and deny him any ongoing notoriety in the future.
 
2013-01-14 10:13:42 AM

OtherLittleGuy: Columbine torn down the cafeteria and library areas where most of the shootings occured and reconfigured the school.


This is probably appropriate. Bulldozing the whole facility is excessive and wasteful - but at the same time, you can't put a bunch of six or seven year old kids back in the same classes and hallways where their friends were slaughtered.
 
2013-01-14 10:15:05 AM

kid_icarus: Hmm...I think you might could argue that leaving the school intact (in any capacity) would only help further his infamy. It would become an almost local legend...that place where THAT happened. It would help immortalize his evil deed. But if the building is gone...there's nothing tangible to tie to the event. I think it could be forgotten easier, and deny him any ongoing notoriety in the future.


Or even possibly opening up the thought of doing it again in that particular school in some nutjob's mind.

There really aren't any right answers here.
 
2013-01-14 10:22:48 AM

colinspooky: Keep it going just as was to show they are not going to be beaten by just one loon


This.
 
2013-01-14 10:22:55 AM
I don't know what they should do with it other than not listen to Fark about what to do with it.
 
2013-01-14 10:23:26 AM
Take a lesson from the Amish and follow their example.

After the Amish school shooting they quietly tore down the building and rebuilt a new school.
 
2013-01-14 10:24:02 AM
I guess using it as a school is too obvious?

So we're starting to martyr inanimate objects now?
 
2013-01-14 10:24:14 AM
make into a pig farm and call it the Second A-Ham-Dent Ranch
 
2013-01-14 10:24:51 AM
Keep it going as a school by day and use it as a rifle range after school.
 
2013-01-14 10:25:01 AM
patch it up, reopen it
 
2013-01-14 10:26:51 AM
I know a lot of people are going to want it torn down or made into something that would make an interesting social statement....

but it seems it would be best suited to be a school. Ya know, since that is what it is. Clean it up, repair it, it's good as new.
 
2013-01-14 10:27:49 AM

The Muthaship: I don't know what they should do with it other than not listen to Fark about what to do with it.


They totally should, though. After all, we're the Experts On Everything. I'm quite sure the President gets all his legislative ideas from the Politics tab (so I expect nuclear war any day now).
 
2013-01-14 10:28:15 AM
Waste of a perfectly good school, massive waste of taxpayer dollars if they don't keep using it.

Kids are resilient, much more than we let them be in the media.
 
2013-01-14 10:28:25 AM

kvinesknows: patch it up, reopen it


This. The idea to level the place is silly. It be like suggesting they level Manhattan because some nut jobs damaged it and killed a bunch of people. If you cave in on every attack and act of violence, the world would get nowhere.
 
2013-01-14 10:29:32 AM
How about remodeling it, but for the next batch of elementary school kids. Don't make the ones who were there go back.
 
TWX
2013-01-14 10:30:04 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Take a lesson from the Amish and follow their example.

After the Amish school shooting they quietly tore down the building and rebuilt a new school.


kvinesknows: patch it up, reopen it


The biggest problem is that school districts are often self-insured, no outside entity to pay for changes. In this case it'll be the taxpayers paying to demo the school (remembering that there could be asbestos issues making it very expensive to demolish) and to build a new one. You're looking at probably $30,000,000 minimum, possibly quite a bit more depending on local labor costs and permitting issues.

The Amish were able to demolish and rebuild a school because their school was very simple in construction and they had a lot of volunteer/community involvement, and had much less stringent building codes and systems in the school.

While there may be volunteers to help in Newtown or other surrounding municipalities, it's unlikely that they can get a volunteer force of sufficient size to make a realistic dent in the cost of the work.
 
2013-01-14 10:31:20 AM
"I have two children who had everything taken from them," said Audrey Bart, whose children attend the school but weren't injured in the shooting.

Is it just me or is this lady a selfish c-word? This reads as a HUGE F you to all the parents who DID actually lose kids in the shooting...
 
2013-01-14 10:32:01 AM
FTFA: "I have two children who had everything taken from them," said Audrey Bart, whose children attend the school but weren't injured in the shooting.

Oh for fark's sake ...
 
2013-01-14 10:32:18 AM
kcoombs69: " Now they're Just Asking Questions®"

Funny how the people "Just Asking Questions" always seem to be the ones who don't actually listen to any answers.
 
2013-01-14 10:32:43 AM

TWX: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Take a lesson from the Amish and follow their example.

After the Amish school shooting they quietly tore down the building and rebuilt a new school.

kvinesknows: patch it up, reopen it

The biggest problem is that school districts are often self-insured, no outside entity to pay for changes. In this case it'll be the taxpayers paying to demo the school (remembering that there could be asbestos issues making it very expensive to demolish) and to build a new one. You're looking at probably $30,000,000 minimum, possibly quite a bit more depending on local labor costs and permitting issues.

The Amish were able to demolish and rebuild a school because their school was very simple in construction and they had a lot of volunteer/community involvement, and had much less stringent building codes and systems in the school.

While there may be volunteers to help in Newtown or other surrounding municipalities, it's unlikely that they can get a volunteer force of sufficient size to make a realistic dent in the cost of the work.


exactly... no matter WHAT level of government would step up to pay to demolish it and build a new one its still the same taxpayer. And if they have 30 to 60 million for a demo and new build.. I would hazard a guess that money would be better spent on real education issues.
 
2013-01-14 10:32:44 AM
Remodel it, change the room numbers around, put up a plaque honoring those that were killed....
 
2013-01-14 10:32:52 AM
I'll go with turn it into a happy place where people go to visit to enjoy them selves

A strip club
 
2013-01-14 10:33:01 AM
Insane Asylum???
 
2013-01-14 10:33:36 AM

Brick-House: Insane Asylum???


Just how haunted do you want this place to end up being?
 
2013-01-14 10:33:46 AM
I agree with all the re-open it remarks except that this is a chance to get a brand new modern building and those kids have been through a bunch of shiat I say build them a great new school.
 
2013-01-14 10:33:58 AM
Dr.Mxyzptlk.: After the Amish school shooting they quietly tore down the building and rebuilt a new school.

That's because the Amish are the human equivalent of Doozers.
 
2013-01-14 10:34:42 AM
What some of you fail to consider is, it's not about the usefulness of the property. It's about the well-being of the students/faculty/families.

The key thing is taking care of the people in the best way possible, whatever that may entail. I live about 15 minutes away from Newtown, but I don't personally know any of the families (although I have numerous acquaintances who do). I don't know what they might need (except to be left alone by the media), and I expect the same is true for most if not all of the people in this thread. They'll decide what they need. Practicality comes second.
 
2013-01-14 10:34:42 AM

Rurouni: "I have two children who had everything taken from them," said Audrey Bart, whose children attend the school but weren't injured in the shooting.

Is it just me or is this lady a selfish c-word? This reads as a HUGE F you to all the parents who DID actually lose kids in the shooting...


Well, it's not as if the survivors haven't been hurt by this all.  I can't even imagine how a young child would deal with that sort of heavy shiat.
 
2013-01-14 10:34:52 AM

CujoQuarrel: I'll go with turn it into a happy place where people go to visit to enjoy them selves

A strip club


Yeah, but you know some idiot is gonna want the strippers to wear body armor for protections from assault fappers
 
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