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(Newser)   RFK Jr.: "The evidence is convincing that it wasn't a lone gunman." Also: "I think I'm done flying in private planes"   (newser.com) divider line 33
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2013-01-14 10:03:23 AM  
5 votes:
OK it was me. I did it. I was on the grassy owl. Although i was only 7 months old at the time, I was able to use a toe nail I had filed down to a razor's edge to cut the webbing on the side of my crib. I used my teddy bear as a weapon rest and i was able to get of two goo head shots before I shiat myself and then has a severe gas bubble which made me cry, therefor, messing up my sight picture before I was able to get off a third shot.
Lucky for me I was able to shake it all of, climb in my bouncy tot baby walker and scoot away , making a somewhat "clean" escape.
The only thing that bothered me is I could *never* get proper heading on the plastic compass and those got-damn plastic poppy balls kept giving away my location.
2013-01-14 10:16:49 AM  
4 votes:

Kumana Wanalaia: Chudogg: the magic bullet had less missing material than was extracted from jfk. Where did the extra metal come from?


caffeine-fueled.com
2013-01-14 11:55:37 AM  
3 votes:

AntonChigger: DROxINxTHExWIND: AntonChigger: DROxINxTHExWIND: ringersol: I think everyone agrees the Warren Commission report was a big mess of incompetent bullshiat.

And yet, people still believe that the 9/11 Commision's report was spot on. Smh.

Ok, what did the 9/11 Commission get wrong?

...but don't you find it odd that a group of very large office buildings were destroyed and in the midst of tons of exploding and burning papers the invsetigators were able to find one of the passports of the men who died in the fiery plane crash?


/Sorry to everyone in the thread.
//I couldn't help it

Not really, it probably got buried under all the rubble and protected from the fire. Its not like every piece of paper was vaporized instantly.

/Truthers make me rage
//Threadjack off



Give you a headache on the left side, do they?
2013-01-14 12:28:49 PM  
2 votes:
I just feel bad for his security detail.
I'm sure the guilt factor affected them, especially Clint Eastwood.


/he knows things about pigeons
2013-01-14 11:00:00 AM  
2 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: "Back and to the left. The head goes back, and to the left."


That is one magic loogey.
2013-01-14 10:19:23 AM  
2 votes:

Amos Quito: [upload.wikimedia.org image 300x396]

What a "lone gunman" might look like.


By the way, I use the following as my facebook profile picture, so I'm getting a kick:

4.bp.blogspot.com
2013-01-14 08:49:49 AM  
2 votes:
Well yeah, after all it was you and me.
2013-01-15 12:46:07 AM  
1 votes:

the801:
And he began to grin, a rictus not of omnipotence such as he had expected but of something different and unexpected and therefore better - omniscience.


And they would have gotten away with immanentizing the Eschaton, except for those meddling kids, who, during the 25 years between the manuscript's delivery by means of temporal anomaly and the unfortunate events of 2001, there was enough time to reinforce the Pentagon to make sure that he didn't get out.
2013-01-14 04:49:50 PM  
1 votes:

Xcott: inner ted: isn't it amazing then that there was only one.....1....uno....singular camera that caught the "plane" that struck the pentagon that day ?

the pentagon

1 camera

yep

There seem to be a lot of myths about the Pentagon, like it's some kind of Fort Knox of nuclear launch codes.

The Pentagon is an office building next to the highway. There's no particular reason why you'd expect it to be surrounded by surveillance cameras or razor wire.


i0.kym-cdn.com

dude, if your average shopping mall has 10+ cameras (and that is pretty conservative)

then i think it's pretty safe to say that the pentagon has just a few more

cause it's the pentagon & while yes, it is as you say; an office building next to the highway - there are lots of reasons to expect it to be surrounded by surveillance cameras and other security devices.
2013-01-14 03:17:36 PM  
1 votes:
Your argument is ridiculous, I win.
2013-01-14 02:59:23 PM  
1 votes:

Xcott: Same construction, same materials, same impact on the same day at close to the same time, same fire in roughly the same place.


They weren't the 'same' materials, or else there would have only been one tower. BAM! You have been proven a fraud and are most likely a 'paid' disinfo-agent as we all know now exist on fark and other sites.
2013-01-14 02:33:20 PM  
1 votes:

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: cryptozoophiliac: Why aren't you Farkers working for US intelligence? Some of you obviously know more about these things than this US general and intelligence professional:

Link

Yes, I am sure someone that retired in 1984 would have some timely insight to an attack in 2001.

/not to mention a total lunatic


Sounds like an ad hominem attack on the general. I don't usually like to appeal to authority, but when the authority in question happens to be a specialist in the subject under discussion, that authority should be carefully considered. Calling someone you disagree with "crazy" makes you a bad debater, unless they are actively assaulting you with bananas, which in your case actually wouldn't be so crazy.
2013-01-14 02:19:34 PM  
1 votes:
NAFTA? the North American Free Trade Accord?

Shurely you mean NASA, the National Aeronautical and Space Administration, er, NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
2013-01-14 02:04:12 PM  
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: believe that fuel can compromise steel that's been plowed into by a speeding airplane. Hell, I recall watching it that day and saying to others that those people needed to get the hell out of there. But, logic tells us that it's very unlikely that both all three buildings had the perfect storm of jet fuel and damage to cause them to fall (two of them within an hour of each other).


Really? Which logical principle says that that is unlikely?

Two buildings with the same construction are both hit on the same day with jetliners full of fuel. They both collapse on that same day. What logical principle says that this is weird or anomalous?

Apparently truthers are modeling the building collapses as independent events, like coin flips. Wow, what are the odds that all three of these buildings collapse on the same day? It's not like they were all caused by the same attack, or anything.
2013-01-14 01:52:44 PM  
1 votes:

GoodyearPimp: My question is just this. Let's pretend everything we've been told about Oswald is true. This guy is a trained shooter and decides to take out the President. Obviously not an easy task because there's not going to be many windows of opportunity. How fortunate that JFK will be visiting town. So obviously he'll take his gun to work that day. His work that just happens to be the perfect spot to shoot from but he's had the job for months/years. And no one else was involved at any point to make that cosmic coincidence happen.


Call me stoopit but without that magic question mark i'm not sure of the question. These are statements leading up top the question. Did the phone ring or something happened to call your attention elsewhere, or is this one of those rare suspense-filled posts where the question will be later in the thread? I gots to know. This is a cliff hanger and I'm biting my nails.
2013-01-14 01:49:36 PM  
1 votes:

ChuDogg: Literally everything supports that Oswald was the shooter. The only question is who were his financial or intelligence ties, if any.


I find the oddest thing is that they somehow had Oswald's name and knew where to find him right after the assassination. I believe he was the shooter, and was stupid enough to think he wouldn't be killed almost immediately after to shut his ass up. And the fact that the Campisis mob family visited Ruby in jail right after he shot Oswald seems a little odd as well.

What we need is to find a wormhole, send a camera through it out past the light cone of all light that left the Earth in the 60's and record what happened.
2013-01-14 01:22:50 PM  
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: jonewer: CrazyCracka420: I'm one who doubts the official theory of 9/11 that it was planes and the subsequent fire that brought down WTC 1, 2 and 7. But I don't have any official theory of my own. Planted explosives would be the most logical that comes to mind.

Have you ever paused to consider how much explosive would be needed and how they managed to get it there and hide it without anyone noticing or spilling the beans?

I like how if you doubt the official version then you have to come up with the exact plan or you're not thinking logically. But, if you believe the official version, all you have to do is rely on the fact that it's the "official version" to validate it as truth.


That's always been my stance. I have no farking clue what actually happened, the official theory could be correct. But when they don't actually use a scientific method for investigating, and they set about trying to prove a certain set of circumstances instead of going in with an open mind, then I will always be a doubter.

To me, the official theory seems incomplete. I don't think it makes me a troofer to expect an actual investigation before saying I'm convinced.

www.dbskeptic.com

The 2nd picture is not scientific, sorry that's not how the scientific method works.
2013-01-14 01:18:56 PM  
1 votes:

Coco LaFemme: It's always sad when members of the family buy into conspiracy theories.  The forensics of what happened that day do not match up with two gunmen; only one.  If there had been a shooter on the famed "grassy knoll", Jackie would have gotten her head blown off after the 3rd shot.  All you'd need to do is see how closely their heads were touching just one second before that shot was fired, to see she would have been killed herself if it came from the side, rather than behind.

Maybe he wants to make some sense of what a horrible tragedy it, and I can't blame him for that, but fooling yourself isn't going to make whatever pain you might still be feeling, suddenly disappear.


Robert Kennedy was the U.S. Attorney General - but f*ck that noise - Imma go with "guy on the internet and the fact that he watched the Zapruder film a couple of times". LOL.
2013-01-14 11:57:10 AM  
1 votes:

Amos Quito: AntonChigger: DROxINxTHExWIND: AntonChigger: DROxINxTHExWIND: ringersol: I think everyone agrees the Warren Commission report was a big mess of incompetent bullshiat.

And yet, people still believe that the 9/11 Commision's report was spot on. Smh.

Ok, what did the 9/11 Commission get wrong?

...but don't you find it odd that a group of very large office buildings were destroyed and in the midst of tons of exploding and burning papers the invsetigators were able to find one of the passports of the men who died in the fiery plane crash?


/Sorry to everyone in the thread.
//I couldn't help it

Not really, it probably got buried under all the rubble and protected from the fire. Its not like every piece of paper was vaporized instantly.

/Truthers make me rage
//Threadjack off


Give you a headache on the left side, do they?


His headache is back and to the left....
2013-01-14 11:31:54 AM  
1 votes:
Is anyone questioning the number of "gunman" were involved? Or instead, is the question - did that gunman work alone?

I doubt he worked alone considering his brother's later assassination.

JFK went tearing through our government firing as many corrupt politicians as his power would allow. Many of which were very friendly with that ol' Bush family.

To laugh at those who consider conspiracies, is to laugh at anyone who considers a scholarly endeavor.
2013-01-14 11:12:23 AM  
1 votes:
I'm pretty sure Boutros Boutros-Ghali acted alone in that kitchen, when he shot RFK
2013-01-14 10:57:55 AM  
1 votes:
1.bp.blogspot.com
2013-01-14 10:46:25 AM  
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: ringersol: I think everyone agrees the Warren Commission report was a big mess of incompetent bullshiat.

And yet, people still believe that the 9/11 Commision's report was spot on. Smh.


Ok, what did the 9/11 Commission get wrong?
2013-01-14 10:21:03 AM  
1 votes:
www.sadgeezer.com

It's pretty clear that JFK was shot by JFK from a timeline where JFK wasn't shot leading to nuclear blackmail causing his impeachment and imprisonment.

Just ask these guys.

www.virginmedia.com

And Dave would have been disappointed if he had landed at a Dallas area Indian restaurant. They actually cater to Indians (dot not feather) and has little resemblance to British Indian restaurants. It's sort of like the difference between going to Kirin Court for chicken paw and dim sum vs Panda Express.
/Does Jr have a book to sell?
2013-01-14 10:17:09 AM  
1 votes:
imageshack.us
2013-01-14 10:16:53 AM  
1 votes:
The motorcade passes the Texas School Book Depository and moves slowly toward the Triple
Underpass. At the sixth- floor window, Lee Harvey Oswald sights carefully through the Carcano-Mannlicher: his mouth is dry, desert dry. But his heartbeat is normal; and no sweat stands out on his
forehead. This is the moment, he is thinking, the one moment transcending time and hazard, heredity
and environment, the final test and proof of free will and of my right to call myself a man. In this
moment, now, as I tighten the trigger, the Tyrant dies, and with him all the lies of a cruel,
mendacious epoch. It is a supreme exaltation, this moment and this knowledge: and yet his mouth is
dry, dust -dry, dry as death, as if his salivary glands alone rebelled against the murder which his
intellect pronounced necessary and just. Now: He recalls the military formula BASS: Breathe, Aim,
Slack, Squeeze. He breathes, he aims, he slacks, he starts to squeeze, as a dog barks suddenly -
And his mouth falls open in astonishment as three shots ring out, obviously from the direction of the
Grassy Knoll and Triple Underpass.

"Son- of-a -biatch," he said, softly as a prayer. And he began to grin, a rictus not of omnipotence such
as he had expected but of something different and unexpected and therefore better - omniscience. That
smirk appeared in all the photos during the next day and a half, before his own death, a sneering
smile that said so clearly that none dared to read it: I know something you don't know. That grimace
only faded Sunday morning when Jack Ruby pumped two bullets into Lee's frail fanatic body, and its
secret went with him to the grave.

----

(Harry Coin curls his long body into a knot of tension, resting on his elbows and sighting the
Remington rifle carefully, as the motorcade passes the Book Depository and heads toward his perch
on the triple underpass. He could see Bernard Barker from the CIA down on the grassy knoll. If he
carried this off right, they promised him more jobs; it would be the end of petty crime for him, the
beginning of big -time money. In a way he was sorry: Kennedy seemed like a nice enough young
fellow-Harry would like to make it with both him and that hot-looking wife of his at the same
time - but money talks and sentiment is only for fools. He released the bolt action, ignoring the
sudden barking of a dog, and took aim - just as the three shots resounded from the grassy knoll.
"Jesus Motherfarkin' Christ," he said; and then he caught the glint of the rifle in the Book Depository
window. Great God Almighty, how the fark many of us are there here?" he cried out, scampering to
his feet and starting to run.)

---

"You mean . . . you mean . . . Did Oswald really do it? Did he shoot before you?"
"No, no," Volpe is miserable. "Let me explain it as clearly as I can. I'm there on top of the Dallas
County Records Building like we planned, see? The motorcade turns onto Elm and heads for the
underpass. I use my magnifying sight, swinging the whole gun around to look through it, just to
make one last check that I have all the Feds spotted. When I face the School Book Depository, I
catch this rifle. That was Oswald, I guess. Then I check out the grassy knoll and, goddam, there's
another cat with a rifle. I just went cold. I couldn't figure it out. While I'm in this state, like a zombie,
a dog barks and just then the guy in the grassy knoll calm and cool as if he was at a shooting range
lays three of them right into the car. That's it," Volpe ends miserably. "I can't take the money. The . .
. Brotherhood . . . would have my ass if they ever found out the truth."
Maldonado sat silently, rubbing his famous nose as he did when making a hard decision. "You're a
good boy, Bennie. I give you ten percent of the money, just for being honest. We need more honest
young boys like you in the Brotherhood."
Volpe swallowed again, and said, "There's one more thing I oughta tell you. I went down to the
grassy knoll, after the cops run from there to the School Book Depository. I thought I might find the
guy who did the shooting still hanging around and tell you what he looked like. He was long gone,
though. But here's what so spooky. I ran into another galoot; who was sneaking down from the triple
underpass. Long, skinny guy with buck teeth, kind of reminded me of a python or some kind of
snake. He just looks at me and my umbrella and guesses what's in it
His mouth falls open. 'Jesus Christ and his black bastard brother Harry,' he says, 'how the fark many
people does it take to kill a President these days?'"
2013-01-14 10:11:19 AM  
1 votes:

KiwDaWabbit: ... (by the way, I hate the misuse of the word "theory"; they're "hypotheses") ...


To be fair, how many conspiracy theorists do you know who can spell "Hypothesis," much less pluralise it correctly?

Half of these jackasses can't even spell the subject of their pet conspiracies right.
2013-01-14 10:04:59 AM  
1 votes:

Champion of the Sun: Wasn't it George H.W. Bush who was in town for no reason that day? Can't remember which crypto-facist was there.


GW Bush was photographed in front of the book Depository building just a few minutes after the shooting, and he had a grin on his face.
2013-01-14 10:02:33 AM  
1 votes:
Jake Epping almost saved the day.
2013-01-14 10:01:20 AM  
1 votes:

OldManDownDRoad: FTFA: Robert Kennedy said his father spent a year trying to come to grips with his brother's death. He said his read writings by Greek philosophers, Catholic scholars, poets and Henry David Thoreau "trying to figure out kind of the existential implications of why a just God would allow injustice to happen of the magnitude he was seeing."

Well, Bob, sorry to have to break this to you, but the university is indifferent. And HD Thoreau is perhaps the most overrated author in all of American literature.


Frankly, Thoreau struck me as a bit of a whiny biatch
2013-01-14 09:54:51 AM  
1 votes:
I think that people buy into conspiracy theories (by the way, I hate the misuse of the word "theory"; they're "hypotheses") because they have a difficult time dealing with the fact that one nobody can change the course of history.
2013-01-14 09:34:55 AM  
1 votes:
He's right. I know who it really was.

upload.wikimedia.org
2013-01-14 09:00:09 AM  
1 votes:
It's always sad when members of the family buy into conspiracy theories.  The forensics of what happened that day do not match up with two gunmen; only one.  If there had been a shooter on the famed "grassy knoll", Jackie would have gotten her head blown off after the 3rd shot.  All you'd need to do is see how closely their heads were touching just one second before that shot was fired, to see she would have been killed herself if it came from the side, rather than behind.

Maybe he wants to make some sense of what a horrible tragedy it, and I can't blame him for that, but fooling yourself isn't going to make whatever pain you might still be feeling, suddenly disappear.
 
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