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(Kens 5 San Antonio)   Texas state legislator to file I'm A Grandstanding Douchebag With No Understanding Of How Government Works Act   (kens5.com) divider line 52
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2013-01-14 02:15:37 AM
"This is a hardened state. This isn't a good place for a criminal to show up and start shooting," said Rep. Toth.
So, he's proposing legislation that would make any federal law banning semiautomatic firearms or limiting the size of gun magazines unenforceable in the Lone Star State.
"We want to make sure this legislation protects the Second Amendment gun rights and the Tenth Amendment which is state sovereignty rights of Texans


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2013-01-14 03:23:19 AM
If it's illegal to have marijuana dispensaries here in California, then this guy's stupid law is unenforceable as well.
 
2013-01-14 07:00:25 AM
secession thread!
 
2013-01-14 08:52:17 AM
I know the feeling, dude. Just yesterday, the school board I serve on voted to suspend habeas corpus.
 
2013-01-14 08:52:45 AM
Texans. Proving Texans are ignorant ever since Texas was incepted.
 
2013-01-14 08:54:03 AM
Yes! Let them do it. Make Texas exempt in the Federal law. Then all the paranoid wackos will migrate there voluntarily, and the rest of us won't have to pay taxes for forced relocation.
 
2013-01-14 08:54:37 AM
Um...did I miss something? Did a law get passed during football?

Texas state legislator to file I'm A Grandstanding Douchebag With No Understanding Of How Government Works Act

Oh, OK.
 
2013-01-14 08:57:00 AM
Next, I propose that Arizona should file a new law regarding the citizenship rights of leprechauns and that Ohio should start limiting welfare to its unicorns and mermaids.
 
2013-01-14 09:05:58 AM
What part of 'well regulated' do these idiots not understand? Their broad interpretation of the 2nd is already pretty spurious when looked at objectively with historical context.
 
2013-01-14 09:06:28 AM
New rule: to be in government, you have to pass an 8th grade civics exam with a B+ or higher.
 
2013-01-14 09:10:09 AM
"This is a hardened state. This isn't a good place for a criminal to show up and start shooting," said Rep. Toth.

Texas is ranked 26th with 11 gun deaths per 100,000 people... Michigan (where I live) is at 10.9 per 100,000... Hawaii is at 2.8.

So... I guess by, "hardened", he meant people shoot each other there quite a bit.
 
2013-01-14 09:12:32 AM

nmemkha: What part of 'well regulated' do these idiots not understand? Their broad interpretation of the 2nd is already pretty spurious when looked at objectively with historical context.


A well regulated refrigerator, being necessary to feed your family, the right of the people to keep and bear food shall not be infringed.

Some people will take that statement as giving the government control over what you put in your refrigerator, others will look at the common usage of the word regulated during the time in which this was written, and realize that regulated didn't mean "controlled" as it does today, but instead it would mean a well supplied refrigerator able to feed your family at any time, and that the actual right had little to do with the refrigerator itself, but the food, and everyone's right to have it.
 
2013-01-14 09:14:44 AM
Forgot to add, previous post stolen from another fark member... Sorry I forget who.
 
2013-01-14 09:14:56 AM
"This is a hardened state. This isn't a good place for a criminal to show up and start shooting,"

www.nndb.com
 
2013-01-14 09:17:01 AM

masos1138: Some people will take that statement as giving the government control over what you put in your refrigerator, others will look at the common usage of the word regulated during the time in which this was written, and realize that regulated didn't mean "controlled" as it does today, but instead it would mean a well supplied refrigerator able to feed your family at any time, and that the actual right had little to do with the refrigerator itself, but the food, and everyone's right to have it.


Two things:
a) There are regulations on the safety and performance of refrigerators
2) The Supreme Court has already acknowledge that, while outright bans are unconstitutional, the second amendment does not prevent reasonable restrictions or regulations from being implemented.
d) That's a goddamn stupid comparison
 
2013-01-14 09:18:59 AM
"This is a hardened state. This isn't a good place for a criminal to show up and start shooting," said Rep. Toth.


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2013-01-14 09:19:28 AM
Worked for weed in Washington.

//State law overrides fed law that is
 
2013-01-14 09:20:53 AM
I don't mind pride in where you come from, but what is it about Texans that generally makes them put being Texan above being American? Like, they're prouder of coming from that shiatkicker chunk of land than they are coming from this nation as a whole, and they still call themselves "patriots" and wave the flag as hard as they can.
 
2013-01-14 09:21:59 AM

themindiswatching: If it's illegal to have marijuana dispensaries here in California, then this guy's stupid law is unenforceable as well.


I don't know if you're joking/being tongue-in-cheek, or just ignorant... Feds go after the marijuana dispensaries all the time. And the locals/states let them do it, because Supremacy clauses biatches.
 
2013-01-14 09:23:20 AM
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2013-01-14 09:26:07 AM
Conservative Constitutionalism Everyone.
 
2013-01-14 09:26:14 AM
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2013-01-14 09:27:25 AM

Satanic_Hamster: themindiswatching: If it's illegal to have marijuana dispensaries here in California, then this guy's stupid law is unenforceable as well.

I don't know if you're joking/being tongue-in-cheek, or just ignorant... Feds go after the marijuana dispensaries all the time. And the locals/states let them do it, because Supremacy clauses biatches.


I believe that was the exact point that themindiswatching was making.
 
2013-01-14 09:29:12 AM

Satanic_Hamster: themindiswatching: If it's illegal to have marijuana dispensaries here in California, then this guy's stupid law is unenforceable as well.

I don't know if you're joking/being tongue-in-cheek, or just ignorant... Feds go after the marijuana dispensaries all the time. And the locals/states let them do it, because Supremacy clauses biatches.


That's what he said...
 
2013-01-14 09:29:26 AM

themindiswatching: If it's illegal to have marijuana dispensaries here in California, then this guy's stupid law is unenforceable as well.


I don't think you understand those laws. The state marijuana laws means that they will not face any state charges, meaning local/state law enforcement won't do anything about it because it won't be prosecuted. The Feds still have authority to make arrests and have trials in federal courts.
 
2013-01-14 09:31:55 AM
To the Union: It must be preserved.
 
2013-01-14 09:33:21 AM
This reminds me, what ever happened wity WYs manufacturing law? The one that exempted state manufatures from NFA requirements as long as it was marked for only use in WY.
 
2013-01-14 09:33:55 AM
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2013-01-14 09:41:14 AM

my lip balm addiction: Texans. Proving Texans are ignorant ever since Texas was incepted.


We're not all bad. But the Woodlands, well, they're just a special kind of stupidity.
 
2013-01-14 09:52:50 AM

Citrate1007: I don't think you understand those laws. The state marijuana laws means that they will not face any state charges, meaning local/state law enforcement won't do anything about it because it won't be prosecuted. The Feds still have authority to make arrests and have trials in federal courts


What's really gonna be interesting is how the legal challenge plays out when a state licenses the first producer/distributor/point of sale for recreational marijuana. It's one thing to say "We don't have a law against that, you can prosecute it in your own court," it's another thing altogether to give a license explicitly authorizing something that is a federal felony... I just hope it doesn't take too many years to filter through the court system.
 
2013-01-14 10:04:01 AM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I know the feeling, dude. Just yesterday, the school board I serve on voted to suspend habeas corpus.


I think you're going to have to explain this one. It's not really the sort of thing you'd expect a school board to vote on.
 
2013-01-14 10:05:02 AM

bulldg4life: masos1138: Some people will take that statement as giving the government control over what you put in your refrigerator, others will look at the common usage of the word regulated during the time in which this was written, and realize that regulated didn't mean "controlled" as it does today, but instead it would mean a well supplied refrigerator able to feed your family at any time, and that the actual right had little to do with the refrigerator itself, but the food, and everyone's right to have it.

Two things:
a) There are regulations on the safety and performance of refrigerators
2) The Supreme Court has already acknowledge that, while outright bans are unconstitutional, the second amendment does not prevent reasonable restrictions or regulations from being implemented.
d) That's a goddamn stupid comparison


Let me respond:
a) There are already a huge number of safety regulations for guns. Unfortunately, many are not enforced.
2) On this we agree. Now we can debate the meaning of "reasonable" instead of "well regulated".
d) It's not mine, but I thought is was better than the gun-grabber pussys constantly referencing gun-nut penises. If only there was a way for them to come together in some way for their mutual benefit. Make up sex anyone?
 
2013-01-14 10:11:40 AM
"This is a hardened state. This isn't a good place for a criminal to show up and start shooting,"
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2013-01-14 10:22:19 AM

spcMike: my lip balm addiction: Texans. Proving Texans are ignorant ever since Texas was incepted.

We're not all bad. But the Woodlands, well, they're just a special kind of stupidity.


Oh, the Woodlands? He must be in the district next to that crazy lady state rep. What is in the water over there?

/downside of only paying your reps $7200 a year plus per diem.
 
2013-01-14 10:30:20 AM
We used to just ignore these guys and they went away.
 
2013-01-14 10:53:13 AM

themindiswatching: If it's illegal to have marijuana dispensaries here in California, then this guy's stupid law is unenforceable as well.



California's law doesn't even go that far. Neither California nor Colorado nor Washington are saying that they're going to arrest DEA officials.
 
2013-01-14 11:11:48 AM

bulldg4life: "This is a hardened state. This isn't a good place for a criminal to show up and start shooting,"

[www.nndb.com image 223x330]


I came here to post this exact thing. As a UT Alumnus, I have to wonder if this guy knows any state history beyond: Jesus did it.
 
2013-01-14 11:30:37 AM
I explained it this way to a hard core Republican I work with... 'if you make it so state law enforcement can't enforce federal law on gun control, then they won't be allowed to enforce federal law on illegal immigration either'. He didn't really have a reaponse.

I think keeping his head from asploding was his top priority at that moment.
 
2013-01-14 11:33:22 AM

incendi: Citrate1007: I don't think you understand those laws. The state marijuana laws means that they will not face any state charges, meaning local/state law enforcement won't do anything about it because it won't be prosecuted. The Feds still have authority to make arrests and have trials in federal courts

What's really gonna be interesting is how the legal challenge plays out when a state licenses the first producer/distributor/point of sale for recreational marijuana. It's one thing to say "We don't have a law against that, you can prosecute it in your own court," it's another thing altogether to give a license explicitly authorizing something that is a federal felony... I just hope it doesn't take too many years to filter through the court system.


It don't think come up until the GOP controls the Executive Branch, when it does it is going to be grand because they will be shooting themselves in the foot in regards to all of their statewide penis-goes-where-rape legislation. You have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. It is going to cripple the religious rights ability to legislate bigotry and racism.
 
2013-01-14 11:38:01 AM

Koalaesq: New rule: to be in government, you have to pass an 8th grade civics exam with a B+ or higher.


But that would make you a despicable political insider.

This shiat happens all the time where I live. Dumbasses who have 0 knowledge of how government works run for gov't office on the platform of "I have 0 knowlege of how goverment works so vote for me, the mavericky Maverick!"
And then some of them gets elected.

We had one dude who didn't understand how amortization works run for local office with a "fiscal conservatism" platform. The schmuck didn't understand math and thought his sewer bill was a communist plot, but he got some (thankfully a minority) to vote for him. I facepalm for our electorate.
 
2013-01-14 12:30:44 PM

Nobodyn0se: I believe that was the exact point that themindiswatching was making.


It can be hard to tell at times. I've known people in real life make that argument in regards to guns. "Well if the Liberals out in California can ignore marijuana laws, why can't we ignore gun laws?"

(oddly, these same people who insist on pot that illegal is illegal and you shouldn't ignore a law just because you don't like it see no problem in ignoring any fire arms law in a state they travel to)
 
2013-01-14 01:14:20 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Nobodyn0se: I believe that was the exact point that themindiswatching was making.

It can be hard to tell at times. I've known people in real life make that argument in regards to guns. "Well if the Liberals out in California can ignore marijuana laws, why can't we ignore gun laws?"

(oddly, these same people who insist on pot that illegal is illegal and you shouldn't ignore a law just because you don't like it see no problem in ignoring any fire arms law in a state they travel to)


Essentially they (local law enforcement) is ignoring federal law. They just aren't yelling and screaming that thats what they are doing. I've been saying for a while that it sets a slippery precident. If you force California to enforce marajuana laws, it sets the stage to force Texas to enforce gun control, or New Hampshire to enforce gay marriage bans, etc... Ultimately people are gonna be pissed one way or the other. To me, its not as much about the individual issues (gun control, abortion, messicans, etc), its about finding the balance between giving the states soverigenty (sp) yet not letting them run wild. I like that the states are different, but there does need to be a larger umbrella that applies to them all.
 
2013-01-14 01:40:43 PM

Arkanaut: To the Union: It must be preserved.


The Union - next to our liberty, most dear!
 
2013-01-14 01:41:31 PM

Soymilk: Koalaesq: New rule: to be in government, you have to pass an 8th grade civics exam with a B+ or higher.

But that would make you a despicable political insider.

This shiat happens all the time where I live. Dumbasses who have 0 knowledge of how government works run for gov't office on the platform of "I have 0 knowlege of how goverment works so vote for me, the mavericky Maverick!"
And then some of them gets elected.

We had one dude who didn't understand how amortization works run for local office with a "fiscal conservatism" platform. The schmuck didn't understand math and thought his sewer bill was a communist plot, but he got some (thankfully a minority) to vote for him. I facepalm for our electorate.


One of my favorite parts of "Bossypants" was the description of modern politics as a race to show who knew the LEAST about how to do their job well and how that is the ONLY area where that flies, with the standout part being "You wouldn't trust someone who said 'I'm not one of those insider-Harvard-educated HEART SURGEONS, I'm just an unliscensed plumber from rural Mississippi, but I'd LOVE to perform your open heart surgery." (paraphrased)
 
2013-01-14 01:50:08 PM

pagstuff: Arkanaut: To the Union: It must be preserved.

The Union - next to our liberty, most dear!


Shut up Calhoun, who said you could speak?
 
2013-01-14 01:51:10 PM

Arkanaut: pagstuff: Arkanaut: To the Union: It must be preserved.

The Union - next to our liberty, most dear!

Shut up Calhoun, who said you could speak?


Sorry, I didn't mean that to be personal, it's just what I imagine Jackson's reply would have been.
 
2013-01-14 01:57:41 PM

iron_city_ap: I explained it this way to a hard core Republican I work with... 'if you make it so state law enforcement can't enforce federal law on gun control, then they won't be allowed to enforce federal law on illegal immigration either'. He didn't really have a reaponse.

I think keeping his head from asploding was his top priority at that moment.


Or maybe he was just too polite to say, "I can't believe you said something that stupid."
 
2013-01-14 04:53:03 PM

MisterTweak: "This is a hardened state. This isn't a good place for a criminal to show up and start shooting," said Rep. Toth.
So, he's proposing legislation that would make any federal law banning semiautomatic firearms or limiting the size of gun magazines unenforceable in the Lone Star State.
"We want to make sure this legislation protects the Second Amendment gun rights and the Tenth Amendment which is state sovereignty rights of Texans


Done in one
 
2013-01-14 05:35:55 PM
I was going to say our state was doing something stupid.
Then I realized many other states were basically doing exactly the same thing with Marijuana laws.
So... I guess it's not so insane...

But lets face it.  A federal weapons ban is probably illegal federally.  This isn't going to hold up in the supreme court.

oh oops, read the article.  Yeah, he's a crazy person.


Come to think of it.  If the Feds aren't going to crack down on marijuana, doesn't that just show how weak and useless our federal government is?  Could a state just do ANYTHING it wants without repercussion now?
 
2013-01-14 06:10:07 PM

JohnnyC: "This is a hardened state. This isn't a good place for a criminal to show up and start shooting," said Rep. Toth.

Texas is ranked 26th with 11 gun deaths per 100,000 people... Michigan (where I live) is at 10.9 per 100,000... Hawaii is at 2.8.


Bah, 2011 the US Virgin Islands were 60 per 100,000.
 
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