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2013-01-14 09:19:57 AM
It sucks that they're not playing the Broncos next week. Three bye weeks in a row would have been awesome.
 
2013-01-14 09:34:48 AM
And now I'm forced to root for whomever wins the NFC Championship. That's not a problem at all with San Fran, but dammit I don't want to have to root for the Falcons.
 
2013-01-14 09:36:05 AM
AFC Championship rematch. This time the Patriots can win instead of letting the Ravens *cough* Cundiff *cough* lose.
 
2013-01-14 09:37:02 AM
49ers-Patriots. I'm looking forward to the Super Bowl for once.
 
2013-01-14 09:38:08 AM
Harbowl!

Oh for f*ck's sake....
 
2013-01-14 09:39:51 AM
Easiest path to the Super Bowl, ever.

SF-NE will be awesome.
 
2013-01-14 09:49:42 AM
 
2013-01-14 09:50:17 AM
Flacco's gonna elite all over that pretty-boy has-been.
 
2013-01-14 09:50:36 AM
Vereen had a nice break out game Sunday. I think the Pats should re-introduce their Chip Kelly inspired no huddle running offense next week against the Ravens. The Ravens' defense was on the field for over 40 minutes against the Broncos and 37 minutes against the Colts, I would imagine their defense is running on fumes. A heavy dose of Ridley, Vereen, Bolden, and hopefully Woodhead could wear them out early.
 
2013-01-14 09:53:30 AM
Ahh, Ravens defense, you might wanna get set for this play.

Oh wait, nm touchdown Pats!
 
2013-01-14 09:53:39 AM

CipollinaFan: For all those people who are writing the Ravens off.


Oh yeah?

Link
 
2013-01-14 09:55:35 AM

Weigard: Flacco's gonna elite all over that pretty-boy has-been.


Thanks for the LOLz....Flacco is a decent backup QB at best.....
 
2013-01-14 09:56:09 AM
3 of my 4 least favorite teams remain. And I don't give a sh*t about the 4th. Maybe I will get some stuff done around the house.....
 
2013-01-14 09:58:05 AM

MugzyBrown: CipollinaFan: For all those people who are writing the Ravens off.

Oh yeah?

Link


Yes lets start citing games that have no real relevance to this conversation.
 
2013-01-14 10:00:44 AM

CipollinaFan: MugzyBrown: CipollinaFan: For all those people who are writing the Ravens off.

Oh yeah?

Link

Yes lets start citing games that have no real relevance to this conversation.


Don't worry, you already started that.
 
2013-01-14 10:02:25 AM

CipollinaFan: For all those people who are writing the Ravens off.


As a Ravens fan, let's not be entirely delusional here. Neither team was, in September, the team they are now. Though I think the Ravens may actually be stronger than they were, it's clear the Patriots are playing their best football.

I think it comes down to passion vs coaching. Can the Ravens get so 'up' for this game that they are able to overcome everything Bellichick throw their way?
 
2013-01-14 10:05:10 AM

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: Weigard: Flacco's gonna elite all over that pretty-boy has-been.

Thanks for the LOLz....Flacco is a decent backup QB at best.....


I'm sure loads of teams would love a backup who could go 18/34, 331 yrds, 3 tds, and no turnovers in a road game in subfreezing temps against arguably the best team in the AFC at that point.

Your ignorance is showing. Moran.
 
2013-01-14 10:05:19 AM

MugzyBrown: CipollinaFan: MugzyBrown: CipollinaFan: For all those people who are writing the Ravens off.

Oh yeah?

Link

Yes lets start citing games that have no real relevance to this conversation.

Don't worry, you already started that.


Right noting a game that happened in the regular season between the same two teams that are about to play in the championship is irrelevant.
 
2013-01-14 10:07:08 AM

CipollinaFan: Right noting a game that happened in the regular season between the same two teams that are about to play in the championship is irrelevant.


How exactly will a game played 4 months ago in Baltimore affect one played next week in New England?
 
2013-01-14 10:11:46 AM

MugzyBrown: CipollinaFan: Right noting a game that happened in the regular season between the same two teams that are about to play in the championship is irrelevant.

How exactly will a game played 4 months ago in Baltimore affect one played next week in New England?


95% of the same players are playing the game.
 
2013-01-14 10:22:14 AM

MugzyBrown: How exactly will a game played 4 months ago in Baltimore affect one played next week in New England?


CipollinaFan: 95% of the same players are playing the game.


I think it's a bit more involved than that. When two teams play each other in a short span of time, coaching and preparation make a huge difference. Unless one team has a huge talent mismatch to exploit, which is difficult to find in the NFL, the team that runs out of answers first loses.
 
2013-01-14 10:23:53 AM

CipollinaFan: MugzyBrown: CipollinaFan: Right noting a game that happened in the regular season between the same two teams that are about to play in the championship is irrelevant.

How exactly will a game played 4 months ago in Baltimore affect one played next week in New England?

95% of the same players are playing the game.


You know how I know you don't know anything about football?
 
2013-01-14 10:24:27 AM

CipollinaFan: 95% of the same players are playing the game.



New England creaming Houston at home a few weeks ago when both teams were trying to make a statement.. a good indicator.

The Ravens edging out the Patriots several months ago in an early season game.. especially since the venue is reversed... meh at best.
 
2013-01-14 10:27:21 AM

MugzyBrown: CipollinaFan: 95% of the same players are playing the game.


New England creaming Houston at home a few weeks ago when both teams were trying to make a statement.. a good indicator.

The Ravens edging out the Patriots several months ago in an early season game.. especially since the venue is reversed... meh at best.


I agree it doesn't mean much, but how much do you think they'll talk about it leading up to the game on TV? My bet is one sh*tload.
 
2013-01-14 10:27:44 AM
The scariest thing for the Ravens and Patriots Haters^(TM) is that nearly every close call went against the Patriots and they still won by 13 points.
 
2013-01-14 10:35:29 AM

MyEnamine: The scariest thing for the Ravens and Patriots Haters^(TM) is that nearly every close call went against the Patriots and they still won by 13 points.


Yeah, "forward momentum stopped" f*cked the Patriots three times.
 
2013-01-14 10:36:03 AM
Ive never broken my forearm before, but I would imagine breaking it twice in a matter of months has to be incredibly awful. The Patriots will miss Gronk next week.
 
2013-01-14 10:44:13 AM

INeedAName: CipollinaFan:***snip***

Can the Ravens get so 'up' for this game that they are able to overcome everything Bellichick throw their way?


Brandon Marshall may be able to help with that.
 
2013-01-14 10:44:31 AM
Texans D just wasn't built for that quick-pace offense and Brady was really on his game. Schaub is a decent QB, but not at Brady's level. The Texans put up 28 points and 425 yards so it's hard to blame the offense too much this time. The worst thing that happened to the Texans was Woodhead's injury. No way he makes those plays that Vereen made and you have to wonder if even Vereen makes some of those plays on another Sunday. Welker must hate the Texans for his knee injury because he always brings his best against them. Kareem Jackson looked silly against him. The holding call he drew was BS and Welker pushed off on that bomb in the first half, but you have to expect home town calls.
 
2013-01-14 10:45:27 AM
Forget the game, do you people know the level of dramatics Ray Lewis will be at if they win next week? And you think the Pats are insufferable?
 
2013-01-14 10:58:45 AM

INeedAName: Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: Weigard: Flacco's gonna elite all over that pretty-boy has-been.

Thanks for the LOLz....Flacco is a decent backup QB at best.....

I'm sure loads of teams would love a backup who could go 18/34, 331 yrds, 3 tds, and no turnovers in a road game in subfreezing temps against arguably the best team in the AFC at that point.

Your ignorance is showing. Moran.


i1247.photobucket.com

There is one in the boat...."Casts again......."
 
2013-01-14 11:04:40 AM

CipollinaFan: MugzyBrown: CipollinaFan: Right noting a game that happened in the regular season between the same two teams that are about to play in the championship is irrelevant.

How exactly will a game played 4 months ago in Baltimore affect one played next week in New England?

95% of the same players are playing the game.


How many of the refs from that game are still officiating in the league
 
2013-01-14 11:05:13 AM
the fun thing about these championship matchups is nobody really knows for sure who will win

the niners can be bottled up, it's been done several times this season notably by the seahawks and rams, i think the falcons are physical enough to do that but the niners defense will probably have some tricks of their own to stop a balanced pass attack from the falcons, we'll also get to see whether that monkey getting off their back really makes them better or if the added pressure of going to the superbowl is just too much still

despite the bookies being in favor of the pats, i don't think anybody in patriot land is taking that game for an automatic win, the ravens always play the patriots close and who wins will depend on matchups, plus the intensity of the ravens players is just right for gutting out wins and it doesn't look like the ravens will be missing any fieldgoals like they did last year
 
2013-01-14 11:08:38 AM
 
2013-01-14 11:15:33 AM

CipollinaFan: MugzyBrown: CipollinaFan: For all those people who are writing the Ravens off.

Oh yeah?

Link

Yes lets start citing games that have no real relevance to this conversation.


Ok.
 
2013-01-14 11:21:12 AM

MugzyBrown: CipollinaFan: 95% of the same players are playing the game.


New England creaming Houston at home a few weeks ago when both teams were trying to make a statement.. a good indicator.

The Ravens edging out the Patriots several months ago in an early season game.. especially since the venue is reversed... meh at best.


Two different teams entirely. NFL teams wins based on match ups and coaching. When it comes to Huston if you can stop Arian Foster you stop their entire offense and if you can do that you can crush their team. The Ravens offence is a lot more versatile than the Texans. They have two solid receivers and two solid tight ends. They have two very good running backs and as of the Indy game when Johnny sucked up his pride and decided to start Bryant Mckinnie they have a good offensive line as well. The Pats have improved their secondary since they played the Ravens by adding Talib which does give them a legitimate defense but at the same time the Ravens have changed Offensive Coordinators and it seems to be having a positive effect on the Ravens Offense. When it comes to defense the Ravens have been weaker against the run then they have been in recent years and with Ridley and Vereen the Pats are a lot better then they have been when they had Benjie but this is still the same basic front seven (with the addition of Suggs) vs, the same run offense for the pats from the beginning of the year. The only real difference is the lack of Gronk the Patriots only decent run blocking TE. But really when it comes to the heart and soul of the Patriots offense it lies in the passing game. Tom Brady is an immaculate QB and infallible when it comes to passing the ball unless he is facing a good defensive pass rush. The Ravens pass rush has only gotten better now that Suggs is back and they are down a blocking option in Gronk. Yes Lardarius Webb is now out which will weaken the Ravens secondary but they still have Ed Reed and Cary Williams was performing better than him before he was injured and has been solid ever since. If you want to go deeper the ravens have a definite edge when it comes to special teams with Jacoby Jones and a kicker that is not Billy Cundiff. When it comes to intangibles, the home field advantage of Foxboruogh does not seem to apply to the Ravens in the same way that the home field advantage of M&T Bank does not seem to apply to the Patriots. Every game that they have played over the past few years has been close. The coaching and players on this team make this game a very even matchup and assuming that the Patriots are just going to roll over the ravens is just farking stupid as is the 9.5 point spread that Vegas is offering. This game is not going to be an easy slam dunk win for the Ravens because they beat the Patriots in week three in the same way that the this is not going to be an easy win for the Patriots because they were able to stop Arian Foster, thus stopping the Texans Offense leading to the blowout.
 
2013-01-14 11:21:21 AM
CBS and the NFL were so ready to have a Manning-Brady duel and Denver ruined it for them. I can't say the Ravens won that game as much as Denver lost it...
 
2013-01-14 11:33:39 AM

CipollinaFan: MugzyBrown: CipollinaFan: 95% of the same players are playing the game.


New England creaming Houston at home a few weeks ago when both teams were trying to make a statement.. a good indicator.

The Ravens edging out the Patriots several months ago in an early season game.. especially since the venue is reversed... meh at best.

Two different teams entirely. NFL teams wins based on match ups and coaching. When it comes to Huston if ...


holy gad dude - try a line break once in a while
 
2013-01-14 11:39:03 AM

AdamK: despite the bookies being in favor of the pats, i don't think anybody in patriot land is taking that game for an automatic win, the ravens always play the patriots close and who wins will depend on matchups, plus the intensity of the ravens players is just right for gutting out wins and it doesn't look like the ravens will be missing any fieldgoals like they did last year


Yep. The Ravens seem like they legitimately hate the Patriots and it always ends up being a close, brutal game. I would have preferred playing the Broncos this week.
 
2013-01-14 12:01:40 PM

Frozboz: Easiest path to the Super Bowl, ever.

SF-NE will be awesome.


If by NE winning 42-17 is awesome.
 
2013-01-14 12:08:21 PM

natural316: Forget the game, do you people know the level of dramatics Ray Lewis will be at if they win next week? And you think the Pats are insufferable?


Did you know Jerome Bettis is from Detroit?

//Getting a lot of use out of that one lately.
 
2013-01-14 12:24:20 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Frozboz: Easiest path to the Super Bowl, ever.

SF-NE will be awesome.

If by NE winning 42-17 is awesome.


I'm a Pats fan and all, but did you not see the game we lost 41-34 in the regular season?

San Francisco worries me for the same reason the Ravens have me worried.

Both very strong teams.

/Looking forward to the game this weekend.
//And, Belichick willing, the Superb Owl
 
2013-01-14 12:36:07 PM

justme317: San Francisco worries me for the same reason the Ravens have me worried. Both very strong teams.


It's the playoffs; that's the point. Would you prefer your team be awarded the prize without any competition?
 
2013-01-14 12:44:05 PM

INeedAName: Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: Weigard: Flacco's gonna elite all over that pretty-boy has-been.

Thanks for the LOLz....Flacco is a decent backup QB at best.....

I'm sure loads of teams would love a backup who could go 18/34, 331 yrds, 3 tds, and no turnovers in a road game in subfreezing temps against arguably the best team in the AFC at that point.

Your ignorance is showing. Moran.


What are you talking about? I'm pretty sure they weren't playing against the Patriots.
 
2013-01-14 12:45:59 PM

dragonchild: justme317: San Francisco worries me for the same reason the Ravens have me worried. Both very strong teams.

It's the playoffs; that's the point. Would you prefer your team be awarded the prize without any competition?


My point is more that Sacrilicious shouldn't dismiss the 49ers, but there are teams that are arguably stronger against the Pats than not. As a fan, I want to see the team win the Super Bowl, would I not want a supposedly "easier" team for my team to beat?

Of course all the teams that have gotten to this point have gotten to this point for a reason.
 
2013-01-14 12:50:47 PM

dragonchild: justme317: San Francisco worries me for the same reason the Ravens have me worried. Both very strong teams.

It's the playoffs; that's the point. Would you prefer your team be awarded the prize without any competition?


any good fan hates losing as much as they love winning
 
2013-01-14 12:54:08 PM

umad: INeedAName: Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: Weigard: Flacco's gonna elite all over that pretty-boy has-been.

Thanks for the LOLz....Flacco is a decent backup QB at best.....

I'm sure loads of teams would love a backup who could go 18/34, 331 yrds, 3 tds, and no turnovers in a road game in subfreezing temps against arguably the best team in the AFC at that point.

Your ignorance is showing. Moran.

What are you talking about? I'm pretty sure they weren't playing against the Patriots.


The Broncos should have been the best team in the AFC at that point, but they shoot themselves in the feet too damn much. That, and John Fox is a coward. And if Pats fans are allowed biatch about the officiating in the game against the Ravens early on in the season, I'm allowed to biatch about officiating in the game against the Ravens this week. It was just as bad, if not worse.

The two most insufferable teams in the AFC made it through... If the Falcons or Niners don't win the Superb Owl this year, I may never be able to watch football again.
 
2013-01-14 12:55:32 PM

CipollinaFan: For all those people who are writing the Ravens off.


Except that the Ravens didn't really win, they were handed a phony win on a missed field goal by replacement officials.
 
2013-01-14 01:20:00 PM

HoleChicken: CipollinaFan: For all those people who are writing the Ravens off.

Except that the Ravens didn't really win, they were handed a phony win on a missed field goal by replacement officials.


The replacement refs screwed up a lot more calls than you seem to remember. Let me refresh you a bit:

Lardarius Webb's illegal contact on Wes Welker (that didn't happen) and the subsequent interception it negated, followed by the unsportsmanlike conduct on the Ravens bench for arguing the call, was just a baffling display of officialdom. Add to that the bungling of a penalty on a punt by the Ravens that almost led to the penalty being tacked on improperly after the kick; Courtney Upshaw's phantom personal foul on Tom Brady; Julian Edelman's offensive pass interference; And the numerous holding calls that left your head scratching. This was a tough one for all three sides. There's no way the league, despite Belichick's bump and Ravens coach John Harbaugh's pestering, can excuse away the performance of the scabs. It was an atrocity for a national television audience to stomach.

That quote is from Boston.com BTW, so no bias towards the Ravens there. The Webb non-existent illegal contact call gave an interception back to the Patriots. The INT occurred on the Patriots 32 yard line.

The phantom personal foul on Courtney Upshaw lead to a New England TD.

The holding non-calls cut both ways. The officials also spotted the ball where the player's forward momentum stopped numerous times instead of spotting it where they were first contacted down. This lead to a first down on third down at least two times that I remember in that game. So spare me the "the officials screwed us" whining. The Patriots should have lost by more.
 
2013-01-14 01:23:52 PM

TomServo24: Vereen had a nice break out game Sunday. I think the Pats should re-introduce their Chip Kelly inspired no huddle running offense next week against the Ravens. The Ravens' defense was on the field for over 40 minutes against the Broncos and 37 minutes against the Colts, I would imagine their defense is running on fumes. A heavy dose of Ridley, Vereen, Bolden, and hopefully Woodhead could wear them out early.


The Ravens played 87 defensive plays in the Wildcard round against Indy. 87!

They looked gassed already in the 1st quarter in Denver. That they pulled it off was a miracle - and for the first time ever, I rooted for Lewis and the Ravens. But man, did they look slow. Somehow, and God bless them for it, they beat the Broncos. Pats and Ravens know each other and have history and whatever, but I don't see any way they are going to drag their battered and aging asses into Foxboro and come out a winner.

It's one thing to cobble together a defensive scheme against a better team that only has a few high percentage options available to them, in terms of personnel - and a wounded QB. Quite another to defend against everything the Pats can throw at you. Every time I watch a Pats game, it seems like I am introduced to some new breakout star on the team, lol. Like Vereen, whose middle name is Patrick-Henry, fittingly enough.
 
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